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Micheal Martin says Fianna Fáil support for Michael D Higgins as President extends to councillors

Michael Martin explained the reasoning behind the party’s endorsement of a second term for Michael D Higgins as president.

FIANNA FÁIL LEADER Micheál Martin has elaborated on the reasons why his party chose to back Michael D Higgins for a second term as President of Ireland.

Last night, Martin confirmed that the party would support his candidacy should  Higgins decide to seek a second term in office.

If a person is doing a good job I find no compelling reason as a leader of a political party why we should oppose him – rather we should support him and endorse him.

Martin added that support for Michael D would go from the “top to bottom” of the party and apply to Fianna Fáil councillors.

Higgins has said that he will announce whether he will run for a second term in office in July. The Irish Times reported on Saturday that President Higgins informed senior government figures of his intention to seek a second term in office.

Higgins can nominate himself for re-election; challengers need the backing of either 20 TDs or senators, or four councils to contest the race.

Speaking on Today with Sean O’Rourke Today, Martin said:

“In the first instance, Michael D Higgins has performed of great distinction as President, both abroad and here, and many of the national issues here his speeches struck a chord.

His finger is on the pulse, he understands the mood and where the country is at, he’s reached out to young people in particular and has achieved their enthusiastic engagement, which I think is important.

Martin praised Higgins’ approach to the 1916 centenary and said that as we move towards the centenary of the War of Independence and Civil War, that his intellect and his background meant that he would be “very well placed” to commemorate those events during “a challenging period for us all”.

He captured the mood and captured how we should commemorate events like that.

Speaking at an event this afternoon, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar commented on Fianna Fáil’s stance:

[Michael D Higgins has] done a fabulous job as president, he’s represented us so well internationally, and I think he has enormous support from the Irish people.

“But the right thing to do in my view is to wait until he makes a decision.”

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:16 AM

    Remember the absolute insanity during covid. People on here daily, calling for forced imprisonment and injection of their fellow citizens whose only “crime”, was being sceptical of the government and RTE. A lot of people showed their true colours then. The power that the media has over the minds of the easily led, is impressive and terrifying. It just takes a constant bombardment of news coverage, to turn regular people into blood thirsty savages. It’s a lesson that should not be forgotten but it already has been. I’ll bet that if some of these people were handed a list of the disgusting things that they said at that time, they would feel a mixture of horror and shame. And rightly so.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:18 AM

    @I’m Far Right: ‘blood thirsty savages’ is over-egging it a bit.

    When your case is weak, shout loudly.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:20 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: €1.25 has been deposited to your account.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:25 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: You’re probably thinking of Goebbels.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:28 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: Well said!

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:34 AM

    @I’m Far Right: Far right? More like SO right! And certainly not being hyperbolic at all. I’m so glad there are strong minds like yours out there impervious to the insidious media agenda. You’re a cut above the rest my friend

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:35 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: aka you were wrong! “lol”

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:37 AM

    @I’m Far Right: What a ridiculous comment grow up. We were in a global crisis.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:48 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: Oh I know you will. You would be gone long ago if being wrong was fatal ;)

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:05 AM

    @B6Tr3OgE: *manufactured global crisis

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:08 AM

    @I’m Far Right: …. according to conspiracy theorists all over the world! The flat, totally not round, world. Also – lizard people from the moon did it!

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:08 AM

    @I’m Far Right: i never saw anyone act in such an extreme fashion on either side, in real life. The journal comment section does not reflect it. People acting like they were flogged in the street for having to have a coffee outside for a month or two as a result of their own choices is funny, though.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:19 AM

    @Setanta O’Toole: “I never saw it so it didn’t happen”

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:26 AM

    @Setanta O’Toole: Some people see themselves as heroes and ‘freedom fighters’ for having behaved in an antisocial fashion.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:28 AM

    @Setanta O’Toole: In your mind, the government removing equal status among citizens, equality under law, can be reduced to having to “have a coffee outside”. That’s really something. I see you have learned nothing at all from the whole thing.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:55 AM

    @I’m Far Right: Equal status under law? Does this mean that all medical professionals are being treated in an illegal fashion because they have to have vaccines to work? What about those that want to drive without their seat belt on? The fascist dictatorship in your mind is surely illegally removing their equal status by forcing them to wear one while driving.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:59 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: Just change your name to “What The Journal said” and get it over with.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:01 PM

    @Diarmuid Hunt: Driving is a privilege, not a right. Working in a hospital is not a right either. Try again lad.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:08 PM

    @I’m Far Right: Found your own copy & paste catchphrase I see. Pot, kettle. Typical.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:10 PM

    @I’m Far Right: Waterford had one of the highest jab rates and highest covid case numbers of anywhere in the world at the same time and no media outlet questioned this…that for me destroyed any semblance of an effective vaccine.if at the time Waterford had very few cases the media would be in a tizzy proclaiming the proof in the effectiveness of the vaccine

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:12 PM

    @James Carroll: What is my copy and paste catchphrase? Please elaborate.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:13 PM

    @I’m Far Right: there was equal right to take the vaccine or not. Choices have consequences, it was ever thus. I learned most people who got on with it have covid in their rear view and the people who denied it at all costs and claim to have not complied with any measures anyway are the ones still shiting on about it on a daily basis.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:19 PM

    @Setanta O’Toole: “Do what you’re told or else” is not being given a choice, you halfwit. It’s coercion.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:21 PM

    @I’m Far Right: it’s coercion to contrarians who would protest the opening of an envelope if they had nothing else to rail against. To the rest it was a choice.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:26 PM

    @Shane Doyle: Was it even a vaccine? A vax should prevent future infection of a particular viral strain. All the covid vax did, at best, was to reduce effects. It didn’t even reduce transmission, yet non vaxed were made social pariahs and practically accused in the media or causing further spread and overwhelming hospitals, (nothing to do with the piss poor hse infrastructure, staff shortages & forced quarantine of close contacts to further reduce staff members).

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:29 PM

    @I’m Far Right: “€1.25 has been deposited to your account.”

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:35 PM

    @Setanta O’Toole: It wasn’t a really a choice. You were still coerced by fear and propaganda.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:39 PM

    @Mike Carson: It wasn’t a Live-attenuated vaccine but a non-live vaccine, so protection fades over time. Certain vaccines must be periodically updated to protect against mutation-prone viruses that cause waves of infections months or years apart. So, to stay protected, people must get the updated vaccines even if they got an earlier version. The seasonal flu vaccine is reformulated each year to target the four strains expected to be most common and most dangerous.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:40 PM

    @Setanta O’Toole: no coercion whatsoever mate but we will prevent you from dining out with the missus,playing sport,socialising with mates down the pub or even going on holiday unless you take this

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:49 PM

    @Shane Doyle: I did all those things but never vaxxed. stayed outside. my choice.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:55 PM

    @I’m Far Right: we all remember the absolute insanity of the tin foil sheep refusing to follow necessary public health measures

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:03 PM

    @I’m Far Right: yep such as that guy roj blake who wanted the unvaccinated kidnapped and injected

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:06 PM

    @Roj Blake: The only one wearing the tin foil hat was you thinking the unvaccinated were zombies who were going to wipe out humanity…now back to your basement until the next whinge

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:23 PM

    @Bill Spill:

    If the MSM told you that the earth was flat and inhabited by lizard people you and your sad ilk would 100% believe it, and do mental gymnastics trying to convince everyone else of the logic of your argument, yet you think you’re so clever with your sneering contempt for anyone who disagrees with your MSM version of reality.

    Make sure you get your experimental boosters now, there’s a good little sheep…

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:28 PM

    @I’m Far Right: And it’s a right to have a coffee at a privately owned company? What right was taken away? Try again lad.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:44 PM

    @I’m Far Right: or else an informed choice that everyone had an opportunity to make, but then again you don’t really care. It’s just a conduit to feed into your persecution and/or superiority complex.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:53 PM

    @Ken O’Neill: Reaching there kenny. Having to make up stuff to suit your argument. I don’t read the MSM, so there! You, however, believe the moon landing was faked. I need say no more :)

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    Aug 11th 2023, 2:08 PM

    @Bill Spill: I wouldn’t be boasting about believing in the moon landings, gullible doesn’t even begin to describe the depths of credulity and naivette one has had to plumb to swallow that monumental brick.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 2:09 PM

    @Diarmuid Hunt: The privately owned companies didn’t come up with the idea, they were made to refuse service, under penalty of closure, from the government. There is a name for that type of thing, do you know what it is? Begins with an F.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 2:16 PM

    @Ken O’Neill: Ok great thanks! What about chemtrails? Can I get your opinion? Real or super real?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 2:47 PM

    @Bill Spill: Sure you believe in the moon landings, I couldn’t possibly stoop to engage you in any semblance of rational rhetoric.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 2:54 PM

    @Ken O’Neill: I love that you are so verbose! Usually makes people seem smart. However, it doesn’t work when employed to promote crazy theories like the moon landing being faked! I’m going to go out on a limb and guess you DO believe chemtrails are a thing. I think you’re just to embarrassed to admit it now…

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    Aug 11th 2023, 2:58 PM

    @Bill Spill:

    You’re a laughing stock Billy Boy, beneath pity, and no where near as clever as you like to think you are.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 3:02 PM

    @Ken O’Neill: That a yes on the chemtrails, isn’t it kenny? Oh boy. Ok, what about crystals? Do you believe they have special healing properties? Or are they just good for cloud busting?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 3:17 PM

    @John John: yes you did,under restrictions and you didn’t jump in a plane for your holidays

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    Aug 11th 2023, 5:56 PM

    @Bills pill:

    Desperation creeping into your once hubristic rhetoric I see, self doubt surfacing there Billy Boy you see, and aren’t you a bit old to be believing in fairytales about 12 men going to the moon and back over half a century ago?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 7:00 PM

    @Ken O’Neill: oh I would be absolutely fascinated to know what you see as desperation?! I’m also genuinely interested; is the moon landings being faked the only conspiracy theory you believe in? And also; how do explain the roughly half a million people involved with the landings ALL being in on the conspiracy?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 7:03 PM

    @I’m Far Right: No, there are plenty of laws which govern what a private company can and can’t do, is making selling tobacco illegal to an under 18 fascism? What about time restrictions on selling alcohol? Selling knives to children? Think, please.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:39 PM

    @Bill Spill: Ah, interesting, you may be willing to learn after all, well you’re obviously not familiar with the concept of compartmentalisation, besides whistleblowers had no hope of being heard had they summoned up the courage to speak out, with career or reputational suicide being the price to pay or worse, as in the case of Gus Grissom who called an unauthorised press conference in 1968 in which he declared they were at least 10 years away from landing a man on the moon, he had hung a lemon under the module that morning in protest, 3 days later he and fellow astronauts Ed White and Roger Chaffey died in a horrific oxygen fire on the launch pad, Grissom’s family believe he was deliberately murdered to shut him up.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:45 PM

    @Bill Spill: The jokes on you by the way Billy Boy, you’re the one who believes in impossible fairytales because you’re incapable of thinking for yourself, and that answer is not for your benefit, it’s for anyone with an open mind who may have come across this exchange with an open mind that hasn’t already been brainwashed like yourself.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:16 PM

    @I’m Far Right: the people you speak of have no shame.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:29 PM

    @Ken O’Neill: ok fair enough Ken. I kinda thought you were kidding or trolling a bit. If you’re that serious, good luck to you. I think it’s batsh!t myself, just like flat earth, chemtrails etc. But who knows. The truth is out there!

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    Aug 13th 2023, 12:22 AM

    @Brendan O’Brien: shouting loudly regardless of your case strength will always fall on deaf ears for people who are afraid of their own shadow to give an opinion that goes against the general narrative that has ‘follow the science’ attached to it, the new religious rhetoric!

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    Aug 13th 2023, 12:29 AM

    @B6Tr3OgE: you’re so scared aren’t you ..of everything!

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    Aug 13th 2023, 12:33 AM

    @Diarmuid Hunt: the seat belt argument again…exactly the same thing as being injected with experimental drugs against your will which was the case in so many countries.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:03 AM

    The next 2 weeks are crucial.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:23 AM

    Still won’t pay TV licence,

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:36 AM

    How did anti vaxxer become an insult? Isn’t it more like a badge of honour? The anti vaxxers were right afterall. Incredible to see how easily manipulated people were by the media

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:53 AM

    @The ghost of Ireland’s past: Anti-vaxers and conspiracy theorists are only right in their own minds.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:08 PM

    @The ghost of Ireland’s past: badge of honour? Only in your head.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:19 PM

    @Jimmy Wallace: they decided arbitrarily one day recently they were ‘right’ and seem to have ran with it.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 3:34 PM

    @The ghost of Ireland’s past: well it became synonymous with idiocy so what else would you call people who reject expertadvice!

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    Aug 11th 2023, 4:27 PM

    @The ghost of Ireland’s past: no.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:01 PM

    delighted i didnt take the jab. and never will.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:35 PM

    @Paul Kavanagh: Why delighted?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:40 AM

    Keep your Vax and your TV licence.. Never again.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:48 AM

    We have re-rebranded Covid in order to shift boosters. Remember, as Health Minister Harris told us in 2020, there had already been 18 brands before the 19th. We are all in this together, and we got this.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:52 AM

    @Tríona Commode: You do realise the19 in covid19 refers to the year it was discovered not that its the 19th version of it? Its moronic statements like yours that overshadow the real concerns of people who didn’t think lockdown and forced vax was necessary. The pro vax brigade use people like to label the rest of us as, uneducated fools .

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:05 PM

    @Mike Carson: she clearly does Mike. Again you aren’t understanding peoples posts.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:10 PM

    @Mike Carson: Simon Harris, our Health Minister at the time, said something to the effect of ‘We’ve seen the previous 18 strains of Covid so we know how to deal with this’ at the very beginning of the hysteria – that’s what he’s referring to

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:12 PM

    @Dylan Bvrn: She’s referring to* excuse me lol

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:38 PM

    @Jimmy Wallace: This article was only updated with info re the vaccination programme in the last hour – I had posted my comment beforehand, curiously enough.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:43 PM

    @Mike Carson: Apparently, irony & sarcasm must not always across in writing. We could start using the ‘(!)’ exclamation, but that’d defeat the purpose.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:13 PM

    @Dylan Bvrn: Ah, yes, I remember. My apologies

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:19 AM

    I would have expected the non-vaxed to be clogging up our hospitals.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:48 AM

    @Jimmy Wallace: proof?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:36 PM

    @I’m Far Right: I’m not the one making the claim. My initial post is in relation to the now, the present and I think that I’m right in saying that the non-vaccinated are not clogging up our hospitals. That is a fact.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:57 PM

    @Lorne Malvo: HPSCs weekly epidemiological reports

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:02 PM

    @Lorne Malvo: excess of deaths from pneumonia & flu last winter, circulation of other respiratory viruses, an ever an ageing population, back logs and bed jams… The majority of people got the vaccine, so will be the majority in any situation. More vaxxed buy yoghurt than non-vaxxed, and conversely, less non-vaxxed wear the colour blue than vaxxed. It’s not complicated, it’s just counting.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 2:16 PM

    @Roj Blake: my point is that non vaxed are not clogging up our hospitals. You can dance around it all you want with non relevant stats and arguments.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:04 PM

    @Lorne Malvo: Probably because they’re a minority.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:08 AM

    Roll on the Covid deniers and anti vaxer’s let’s be having your comments…..

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:10 AM

    @Cormo R: Yes, the covid deniers words are cheap. Especially to those of us who lost someone.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:20 AM

    @Cormo R: Any regrets about how you acted during covid, in hindsight? I’ll bet that you said some really nasty stuff to people. You probably told me that I don’t deserve a hospital bed or that my kids should grow up without a father. Stuff like that.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:26 AM

    @I’m Far Right: I have absolutely no regrets as I acted accordingly and guess what? I never caught Covid. As for the rest of your dribble, it takes a special kind of person to think of of kind of “Stuff like that”

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:39 AM

    @Cormo R: you could have covid right now and not know it. Unless you are testing yourself daily.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:46 AM

    @Cormo R: Well I also have no regrets and I never: wore a mask, took the vax or took a test, so what’s your point? And it’s not hard to think of examples as there were plenty. Scroll back to two year old journal comments and you’ll easily find examples. You’ll find people calling for nurses, who were previously “heroes” to be fired for not complying. People calling for the unvaccinated to be banned from public spaces. Vaccine status taken into account when hospital treatment is needed. “Pandemic of the Unvaccinated” that was a good one. “No Jab No Job” Remember all the “Stuff like that”?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:56 AM

    @I’m Far Right: Some people saying harsh and intolerant things in comment sections? I’m shocked!

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:59 AM

    @Cormo R: I never got vaxed, and guess what? I never, to my knowledge, caught the deadly Covid either.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:03 AM

    @I’m Far Right: And that’s the way every single person who got vaccinated treated those who didn’t in your mind?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:09 AM

    @Mike Carson: That’s excellent hopefully you never do.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:15 AM

    @Lorne Malvo: Very true. At the moment, though, due to the new wave, I am testing regularly with antigen tests as I work in healthcare and have parents in their 80′s.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:15 AM

    @Cormo R: No, I never said that. You definitely did though. I can tell by the way that you’re speaking to me now. I bet you used to wet the bed every night out of anger that I was walking around, unvaccinated. You just couldn’t stand it that I seemed completely unaffected and unafraid. You’d see me in shop, maskless, and curse me under your breath. You saw me as an enemy and you still do. I suspect that jealousy was a big part of it. You were jealous that I could walk around and live life as I’d always done, while you cowered in fear of anyone with a runny nose or a cough. “Its not fair” you’d think. “Its not fair that I’m being a good boy and doing what I’m told and this guy doesn’t have to :-(

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:16 AM

    @Cormo R: Oh I probably have had it if im being honest. I’ve had sniffles, like most humans since the dawn of time. It could of been the deadly covid, but it hardly registered with me so I didn’t feel the need to isolate or put my life on hold. I did what we did in years gone by, I got on with it. This new covid scam is suddenly back in the new to try distract from more pressing issues. RTE, Housing, Migrant issues etc.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:19 AM

    @I’m Far Right: do you want a medal for “walking around unafraid” with no mask on potentially carrying and transmitting a virus that a huge amount of us lost loved ones to? Cos I can get you a medal no problem

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:21 AM

    @Isla Carabine: Get yourself a medal too because you are probably doing the exact same thing right now. You also did the exact same thing before covid. So don’t give me that nonsense.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:22 AM

    @I’m Far Right: You should write a book with that imagination of yours although you probably already have, and it’s being used to level a wonky table….

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:23 AM

    @I’m Far Right: Genuinely the saddest post I’ve ever read on here. I am not joking. You must be hurting real bad. I’m sorry for that

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:26 AM

    @Cormo R: I’m not a covid denier, just not a fool who believes its the new bubonic plague, not someone who selfishly believes the whole world should shut down to protect the few. Its strange how the vulnerable weren’t just isolated so the rest of society get on with their lives. No we were all locked down and restricted. Some of us demonized and discriminated against for our choices, which were ours alone and not impacting one else. I was labeled anti vax for expressing freedom of choice by pro vax Nazis. I’ve had other proven vacancies, so hardly anti vax, and personally didn’t feel the need to take a trial vax for covid unless I felt confident in it, which I don’t. By personally not taking it it only affected me. Vax people could still spread covid so why were unvaxed being treated like plague spreaders? I don’t see the same pressure being applied to people to get the flu jab? Is that because covid killed off the flu?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:57 AM

    @Bill Spill: I’m not hurting. I want people to acknowledge what they did and how they treated others.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:57 AM

    @Mike Carson: right , that must mean it didn’t exist .

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:02 PM

    @I’m Far Right: yep like my loved one died from a selfish pr..k like you.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:09 PM

    @Annette: I’m very sorry for your loss but I am not to blame. It’s more likely that they contracted it from a loved one or healthcare worker (who was masked and vaxxed).

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:32 PM

    @Ronan Meagle: How to you mean it didn’t exist? I don’t believe I suggested it didn’t exist. I’m suggesting that it was blown out of proportion, but I’m sure you know that and are just trying to push you own deluded narrative. Like all the false reporting of deaths attributed to covid that seems to be over looked, as admitted by our own Gov at one point.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:40 PM

    @I’m Far Right: you’re saying, to people you don’t know, that they “definitely” said things that you have no idea that they did. You’re desperate to blame someone for, my suspicion is, your pain

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:42 PM

    @Annette: Really, did they murder your loved one? Have they been caught and locked up for their crimes?
    Maybe you should of taken more personal responsibility and done more to protect your own loved one rather than blaming others for an illness your loved one had. Did you isolate them? Did you and your family isolate for them to? Do you honestly think the whole world should of stopped for your loved one? I think maybe you’re the selfish pr..k. Life goes on everyday, people are born, people die. People get sick. You cant blame others for illness and you cant expect the world to pause for your loved 1. I lost family through illness. I don’t blame others and I dam sure didn’t want the world to stop so the could attempt to get better.
    I focused on them and what I could do to help along with the doctors and nurses,not the entire general population.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:52 PM

    @Lorne Malvo: and once again those of you against the public health actions taken show whot you know….absolutly nothing. It is only CoViD-19 if you develop symptoms, so you cannot have ” covid right now and not know it” as you put it. What can happen is you contract the virus, SARS-COV-2, and not know it, and if you are vaccinated, there is a good chance you never will.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:07 PM

    @Joe x: Shows how much you know dumb ass. SARS-COV-2 is COVID 19. The who decided to call it COVID 19 to try and not cause massive panic in Asia where they were already exposed to previous SARs outbreaks’. Its one and the same. A catch all label for all the different variants. So weather you vaccinated or not you could still catch SARS/COVID.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:27 PM

    @Mike Carson: and you have just shown who the real dumb ass is Mike. YOURSELF.
    SARS-COV-2 is the virus that causes the disease CoViD-19. It is not CoViD-19 until you develop the symptoms that define it. You can contract the virus without developing the disease and thanks the vaccinations that is more and more the case. Same goes for the Influenza virus and the disease it causes…the flu

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:27 PM

    @Cormo R: In other words you’re just a nasty piece of work regardless of circumstances, hopefully you took the snake oil.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:33 PM

    @Mike Carson: btw Sars, the disease is cause by the virus SARS-COV. again virus and disease. Now I will admit that normally the disease moniker is usually taken from the name of the virus like in the case of the Flu and Sars, and you are correct in the reasoning behind the naming of CoViD-19, however SARS-COV-2 and CoViD-19 are 2 different things as I have oreviously explained to you. Hope that clears up your confusion.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 2:22 PM

    @Joe x: Did you get a covid vaccine or a SARS-COV-2 vaccine? What does it say on the little gold sta… sorry, sticker, that you got?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 3:31 PM

    @I’m Far Right: it’s a vaccine against SARS-COV-2, which if you read my previous comments correctly is the name of the virus that causes CoViD-19. However in the incorrect vernacular, it is called a Covid Jab. It is actually the same with influenza vaccines and how they are called the Flu Jab in the vernacular. BTW……what grade star did you get or was it a fine big red X for being a know-it-all by any chance?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 4:14 PM

    @Joe x: I came out of the whole thing completely unscathed. Bodily autonomy intact and everything. Feels good knowing that I didn’t give in to the pressure.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 4:50 PM

    @I’m Far Right: going by some of your comments you were clearly emotionally hurt by the whole thing, so I wouldn’t say ‘unscathed’. And I’m not having a go. I really don’t think anyone, of any stripe or opinion, came through it unscathed. Whether you took the jab or not, believed it was a hoax or not, etc etc, that was a very turbulent time

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    Aug 11th 2023, 7:34 PM

    @Joe x: Ah old Joe is back. loves a good rant about covid

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    Aug 11th 2023, 7:52 PM

    @Bill Spill: That’s a great point to think about, not directly about I’m Far Right but in general.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 7:52 PM

    @I’m Far Right: totally unscathed is it? Judging from your own comments I think you are trying to convince yourself of that instead of others….tell you what….easiest way to put your mind at rest is to either avoid the covid articles or do what I did….get vaccinated.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 7:55 PM

    @Paul Keenan: well what you expect Paul when you see so much stupidity denying expert advice, good to see your still knocking around, not heard from you in a long time. How you been?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 8:07 PM

    @Bill Spill: Yeah I suppose that’s a fair point. The whole thing seems like some weird dream now. What a crazy time.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 8:28 PM

    @Joe x: Im great just like 99% of the population who have moved on, but sure theres always the few that just wont let it go, imsure they will be calling for masks again and the likes of o callaghan
    trying to scare parents about sending kids back to school

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    Aug 11th 2023, 8:39 PM

    @I’m Far Right: can agree on that alright

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    Aug 11th 2023, 8:57 PM

    @Paul Keenan: good to hear. At this stage I couldn’t care less what people do but it just annoys me how people cannot differentiate between virus and disease. But hey, I know that is more my problem than theirs but it comes from my trade where we are meant to be very clear in the documentation for what we do. Now, those same people are the ones who will cry if a particularly nasty variant arrives which hopefully will never happen. But if it does, I’ll just get my vax and move on.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 9:04 PM

    @Paul Keenan: BTW Paul, seeing as you brought up the subject of masks, why dont you explain your understanding behind the reasoning for wearing them. Just so you know, I still wear one if I’m ever feeling fluey ( or should that be covidey), it’s just that I cannot really understand what the issue is for some people.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 9:28 PM

    @Joe x: As I already said there is a Tony minority that just won’t let it go.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 9:35 PM

    @Paul Keenan: No worries, I was just trying ti understand what the issue was with them since you brought it up, but if you’re not up to discuss it, then fair enough. Anyway until the bexf time.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 9:36 PM

    @Joe x: * next*

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    Aug 11th 2023, 9:43 PM

    @Annette: Did you find them after you got your vax?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:19 PM

    @Bill Spill: Well that’s something at least. Truth be told, I know why people acted like they did. It was a massive shock and awe campaign, hard to resist. I’m just disappointed by how everyone acquiesced to the disgusting way that my family and others were treated. The country of my birth turned it’s back on me and many others. We are supposed to champion individual rights and instead, that notion was ridiculed as the government instituted group rights and privileges for those who were compliant. It was simply wrong. Lines were crossed that should not have been.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:45 PM

    @I’m Far Right: we’d have to talk a lot more for me to understand what you’re saying there, about how your family was treated etc. It’s rarely ever one thing or even one side in these things though. For example; I personally think that there’s a lot of contrarians in the country. Just always negative. And a lot of people who don’t have a great hand and are itching to push back and rebel whenever they can. There’s also plain old ignorance. That one is worse than ever now everyone has access to so much info, but scant skills to interpret it truthfully. Then talking about truth, there are those making a killing on giving you whatever flavour of it you’d like. So easy to fall into an echo chamber really. Added to what you said, it is a mess out there in a lot of ways. Occam’s razor is useful!

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    Aug 12th 2023, 4:03 PM

    @Annette: Your comment makes no sense at all.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:32 AM

    Christ! Close the pubs. Local hospitals going into lock down. I’m off to get my toilet rolls,

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:45 AM

    The next crucial flatten the week two curves….

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:51 AM

    @Derek Power: I’ll take ‘Word Salad’ for $800 please Alex

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:11 AM

    OMG! Shut everything

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:24 AM

    @Dan Danny: while you can make light of it. Which is great cause you must be in fine health. Meanwhile, A family member of mine is recovering from a stem cell transplant for their leukemia. So this news is important to us cause it can help us take extra precaution so we don’t kill him with any type of infection. The world is bigger than ourselves.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:05 AM

    @Mike Carson: yep those things too. Get over yourself. That’s exactly what we are doing. I’m not advocating for any of the things you mention or interfering with any other person’s lives. That last thing I want is more lockdowns The only thing I was saying was that the reporting of this news is appreciated so better planning can be made on our parts. And I’m sure it is for others. I’ve no idea how you came to that conclusion So there’s no need to be flippant about an article like this is all. So redirect your anger somewhere else.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:31 AM

    @Sean Partidge: Planning for what? If you have a family member who is as sick as you say you should be planning for them regardless of covid. Common colds and flus are ever present. Don’t need articles trying to reinvoke the mistakes of the past and attempting to elicit fear. The pandemic emergency is over. The real issue with covid is the piss poor infrastructure the hse provides. Covid is being used in an attempt to cover it up.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:40 AM

    @Mike Carson: we are planning for them regardless of covid. This article is about covid so keep up. If it was about the flu or chicken pox going around it’s the same point…..Worth knowing. The planning is who does the regular hospital appointments , who can visit the home? Medication, What food can be made to name a very small few. it’s really quite complicated so any news is welcome to be careful of. Meanwhile I couldn’t give two flying fks what other people do. Completely their choice. You are very insecure mike.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:23 PM

    @Sean Partidge: These articles are distraction tools trying to force people to look away from real issues of concern in this country, like cost of living, housing, RTE, substandard HSE etc, Trying to reinvoke fears of the lockdown. I’m not one bit insecure, if I was I would of jumped on the vaccine band wagon and got an unnecessary, (for me), Jab. But fluting on about your sick relative means you’re the insecure one. Looking to others for a pat on the back and some sympathy, needing constant reminders form the media that illnesses exist in the world, Sounds very insecure to me.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 2:43 PM

    @Mike Carson: haha you’re some grade A flute. I’d say you’re a pain to be around.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:47 AM

    Got the new strain of Covid and absolutely dying, while I know I’ll be fine, I don’t remember ever feeling this sick with the flu. I had Covid when it first came and it was barely a thing, I burnt up for a few hours, coughed a few times and it was done. This one is awful, can’t breathe without a hacking cough. Not fun! But no more lockdown sheningans or anything of that sort, personal responsibility I started feeling crap on Monday and awful by Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday worse and today just as bad, will hopefully isolate until Monday and be done with it.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:13 AM

    @HAC: Hope you’ll be feeling better soon

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:20 AM

    @HAC: you poor ol duck, hopefully you’re well soon and no long effects

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:23 AM

    @g m: thanks me too!

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    Aug 11th 2023, 11:23 AM

    @Isla Carabine: thanks!

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:21 PM

    @HAC: Take a good few days rest & maybe dose up on zinc VitC quercetin magnesium etc.
    My son got the new strain on the plane home from portugal a few weeks ago.
    We then all caught it from him so it seems to be very contagious like the old BA2 used to be in early 2021.
    We found it very similar to the ba2 omicron but with worse fever but milder head congestion. it seemed to affect the ears too though.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:03 AM

    Grand so

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:16 PM

    Moderna share price is down 74% since the peak in 2021. Great call by ex Blackrock manager and analyst Ed Dowd. A year ago he was highlighting the big changes seen in life insurance data.

    Data from Switzerland shows 34% increase in sick days in 2022/23 compared to 2019.
    But at least the vaccines prevented people from dying right? Must be something else.

    I like my blood to remain pure…..doing enough damage with the fags and whiskey,

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    Aug 11th 2023, 2:47 PM

    @lumberjack: People are now more aware of the risk of infecting others when they are sick, so are more likely to stay at home. And in Switzerland (and elsewhere) non-Covid illnesses returned with a bang last year e.g. – those with influenza jumped by 64% compared to 2019.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 3:11 PM

    @John John: must be a deadly flu strain if that’s the reason, eg Japan population fell by 800k people last year

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    Aug 11th 2023, 3:26 PM

    @lumberjack: I was referring to Switzerland because you were referring to Swiss Data.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 3:29 PM

    @lumberjack: Japan. Omicron, although it’s less pathogenic than previous variants of coronavirus, hit older people there particularly bad last year. Doctors reported many cases of elderly people dying from aspiration pneumonia (lung infection connected to weakened ability to eat and swallowing e.g. dysphagia). Japan also saw an increase in the number of deaths in respiratory diseases and senility.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 4:28 PM

    @lumberjack: pure? Are you an Egyptian pharo or from a long line of incest?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:20 AM

    I’ll take covid again,2 weeks off was a nice break

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:05 PM

    The first year of the pandemic was indeed serious & should have been taken seriously, the 5k limit was another matter. Fortunately for us, as the virus mutated, it grew weaker. This whole ‘more transmissible’ tagline only stokes fear. Plus, wasn’t the last one & the one before that, more transmissible too? Yeah, you’ll probably catch it quite easily but the important thing is you probably won’t be very sick with it.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:41 AM

    Close the pubs

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:12 PM

    You’d be left in no doubt that the journalists and politicians are on holidays with these headlines

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    Aug 11th 2023, 5:51 PM

    The ‘safe and effective’ clot shot. Line up plebs.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 5:58 PM

    @Thomas Gareth McMahon: sad sap.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 10:49 AM

    I got the yellow fever vaccine then got yellow fever 4 times! That vaccine is crap!

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:30 PM

    @Dave Grant: you caught the yellow fever or you tested positive for the virus that causes it? 2 different issues. Especially if it was 4 times.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:12 PM

    My heart swells with happiness over this news!

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    Mute Chief Of police Retired - Truther MAGA Trump 2024
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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:02 PM

    No covid in the US; Trump put the cure for covid in the chemtrails back in 2020

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:13 PM

    @Chief Of police Retired – Truther MAGA Trump 2024: How did you get a profile pic? Can’t seem to do it from the phone app.. does it work on a pc?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:19 PM

    @I’m Far Right: it should be part of your google account or facebook account..just dont use fake profile pic as you will lose credibility

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:27 PM

    @Chief Of police Retired – Truther MAGA Trump 2024: lol love it

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:57 PM

    @Chief Of police Retired – Truther MAGA Trump 2024: ok ok, you can be quite funny!

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    Aug 11th 2023, 2:10 PM

    @Chief Of police Retired – Truther MAGA Trump 2024: Lol okay. Thank you for your service, Chief. MAGA

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:28 PM

    It is not a form of the Omicron variant, it is a decendant of the Omicron variant.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 12:33 PM

    @Joe x: “descendant”.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:01 PM

    @John John: that your only issue with my statement? My spelling?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:07 PM

    @Joe x: You should try to spell correctly. In order to bring people across, we have to present well. The variant in the article, (EG.5 or Eris), is related to an Omicron subvariant called XBB.1.9.2.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 3:35 PM

    @John John: Fair enough then.

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    Aug 12th 2023, 3:10 PM

    The thing that strikes me is how the media have not reported Pfizer at the senate house committee refusing to say anything about how the vaccine causes the mycardoitis or how fauci was caught lying over his funding of gain of function in Wuhan.

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:34 PM

    Comments are

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    Aug 11th 2023, 1:57 PM

    @HisMastersAlibi: aren’t they though? But what is to be done?

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    Aug 11th 2023, 2:43 PM

    @HisMastersAlibi: No. They’re not.

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    Aug 12th 2023, 4:01 PM

    There are little or no vaccines produced at this stage due to the fact most have a very low shelf life and must be refrigerated.
    Does anyone know where to view the results of the biggest phase 3 study ever performed on the human race?

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