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Health Minister Simon Harris says PTSB should appear before the Oireachtas Finance Committee next week. Oireachtas TV

Harris on PTSB home loan sale: 'It's time to see a bit of humility from our banks'

Sinn Féin’s Pearse Doherty said the bank has been asked to appear before the Oireachtas Finance Committee next week.

“I THINK IT is time to see a little bit of humility from our banks,” said Health Minister Simon Harris when asked about the €4 billion mortgage sale by Permanent TSB today.

The statement from the minister comes a day after a Fine Gael parliamentary party meeting in which members raised concerns that the government is coming across as the “spokespeople for the banks”.

PTSB, which is 75% State owned, has been defending its plan to sell off a book of non-performing loans known as Project Glas.

The proposed sell-off of 18,000 properties, including 14,000 private dwelling homes, has become the subject of a political battle in recent days.

Yesterday, Finance Minister Paschal Donohoe conceded that even homeowners who engaged with the bank could find their mortgage arrangements with PTSB are not honoured by the buyer.

Speaking about the issue today, Harris said the government had to “find a balance” whereby they protect mortgage holders, but also ensure there is a stable banking system.

Sinn Féin’s Pearse Doherty said PTSB has been invited to appear before the Oireachtas Finance Committee next Tuesday.

Doherty told the Dáil the bank has informed the committee that it has already entered into “confidentiality clauses” with interested parties and would be restricted in speaking about certain issues. A formal invitation has been issued to the bank today.

“The train has left the station – these are vulture funds,” he said, referring to the interested parties.

‘Time to see a bit of humility’ 

Harris said PTSB should appear before the Oireachtas Finance Committee:

I think PTSB should go before an Oireachtas committee. I think it is time to see a little bit of humility from our banks – banks that the taxpayers of this country have supported through very, very difficult times.
I think they could do an awful lot worse than show a little bit of humility and engage with the people’s representatives. I think that should happen, that is a matter for the bank, but that is my personal view.

Harris said Minister Donohoe had a “constructive” meeting with Fianna Fáil’s Finance spokesperson Michael McGrath about a new Bill, due to be introduced next week, which seeks to regulate the vulture funds.

He said the government wanted to work with all parties on the issue.

Minister says the loans have not been sold 

The health minister said there is time to tackle the issue as the loans have not been sold and the finance minister has not been consulted yet. “There will be time to engage,” he said.

However, Harris said people listening to the debate may get worried when they hear statements like: “The train has left the station.”

He maintained a decision on the sale has not been made nor has a decision been made about the potential buyer.

“Please don’t scare people,” he told Doherty.

pearse Sinn Féin's Pearse Doherty says the selling of long-term loan products to vulture funds who have short-term interest should not be allowed. Oireachtas TV Oireachtas TV

The Sinn Féin spokesperson said that it was time to “insert some honesty” into the debate.

While he said he is in favour of regulating the vulture funds, it will not be the “magical solution”.

‘Vulture funds don’t do long-term solutions’

Even if vulture funds are regulated, long-term loans should not be sold to them under any circumstances, he insisted.

“They are only interested in the short-term turnaround and the quick turnaround,” said the Donegal TD, who said unlike banks they do not have a public persona or reputation to keep up.

Citing Central Bank figures, Doherty said 120,000 home mortgages were restructured by the end of September 2017 – with the vast majority (87%) of these accounts meeting the terms of the restructured arrangements.

However, he told the minister all of these deals done with customers were done by regular banks, not vulture funds.

He said vulture funds don’t offer the suite of options mentioned above, because they don’t have to.

“They [vulture funds] don’t do split mortgages, they don’t do interest only, they don’t do arrears capitalisation,” he said.

Doherty told Harris that families at home and renters in the buy-to-lets due to be sold “are hoping and praying that you will stand up to the vultures and stop this sale”.

The Sinn Féin TD said the government must tell PTSB that it is not allowed to sell long-term family products to vulture funds who only have a short-term interest.

If you sell long-term products to companies that have a three or five-year interest, it will only end in one way and that is repossessions, that is people being evicted, that is more homelessness and we cannot stand here as legislators and pretend that there is some sort of magic solution.
 You own 75% [of the bank]. Lift the phone, tell Jeremy Masding [PTSB CEO] the government refuse to stand idly by while you are about to throw your customers to the wolves just because you didn’t get your act in order over the last three years and work those mortgages down the way that you should have.

Harris said he is conscious that some homeowners are “concerned” and “worried”.

He said the government would work towards providing “maximum security, clarity and assurance” to mortgage holders.

Read: Minister concedes homeowners who engaged with PTSB may not have deals honoured>

‘Many have made no payments at all for years’: PTSB defends controversial €3.7 billion mortgage sell off>

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    Jan 21st 2015, 10:40 PM

    The worst thing about Netflix is you spend have the time looking through loads of film titles wondering which one to watch…

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    Jan 21st 2015, 8:39 PM

    I never noticed the blood on Frank’s hands until now! Subtle

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 10:35 AM

    Can’t wait to watch the next season. Such a classy show.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 8:26 PM

    Is there anything decent on Netflix? Old movies, kids stuff and the odd box set no?

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    Jan 21st 2015, 8:34 PM

    Its convenient, thats about it.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 8:36 PM

    I can’t remember the last time I used Irish netflix, probably on a Fr Ted marathon. That’s it. I don’t know anyone who uses the Irish version these days. Use a dynamic DNS service (I use unotelly) to use the US version instead. You can switch back and forth if needed. But the Irish one is pretty pants.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 8:40 PM

    And Netflix have confirmed the won’t shut down your account if your caught using one. Now if only we could get RTE to go pay for view only…….

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    Jan 21st 2015, 8:49 PM

    Rarely use the irish one. Prob for the father ted too. I use hola on the lap top to watch the U.S. one

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    Jan 21st 2015, 9:22 PM

    Can I do that with ps3??

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    Jan 21st 2015, 9:38 PM

    One word “Turboflix”

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    Mute Dave Davis
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    Jan 21st 2015, 9:43 PM

    Actually, you can set up the DNS on your router/modem so that all devices in your home, including your PS3, use the US version.

    For the Irish version, I just switch to using 4G on my phone and watch it there. Means I don’t have to tinker with anything once it’s set up. It also means you don’t need to open it in an app like hola. Hola is painful to use and is slow as hell. So too is a VPN with HD video.

    There’s plenty of dynamic DNS services available. The one I use is not the only, or necessarily best, one. Hope that’s useful.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 9:52 PM

    You sure you don’t mean a VPN? I don’t see how a dynamic dns service could do what you are saying. A dynamic dns service is one that maps a server address to an ip address that changes.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 9:53 PM

    Cool thanks

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    Jan 21st 2015, 9:59 PM

    Sorry Colm, you’re right. The Dynamic DNS is actually just for the changing IP address of the router, I believe it’s actually some sort of ipsec that’s used exclusively for netflix traffic. Either way, it works really well.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 10:08 PM

    Do a search on google, fairly easy to do. No charges.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 12:49 AM

    Dave / Colm: you’re both close :) it’s actually smart DNS solution that you refer to. And to make it little bit more confusing – it often use dynamic DNS to work together.
    In example: you are provided with dedicated DNS server that is automatically detecting your requests, so if you try to open http://www.netflix.com it will put you through their proxy server located in the US (in order to allow you to view us content). If you open http://www.rte.ie then nothing special happens – it will forward to rte as normal. So it knows what websites need to be put through proxy which not – hence name smart DNS. Then it can use dynamic DNS as well – this is for their own security. For example they offer you their smart DNS service but how can they know their service is not used by multiple people – anyone can enter their DNS details and use for free? Of course they have to add restriction for each IP (customer). Because your connection IP may be changing dynamically with your provider – then that’s why and when dynamic DNS service comes into play – so when your ip changes they automatically know it and allow you to use service as normal. If you didn’t use dynamic DNS then every time your ISP changes your ip you would have to manually change it with your smart DNS provider. If your ip is not dynamically changed by your ISP then you don’t need dynamic DNS to use smart DNS services. Hope that helps a bit.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 8:37 PM

    Show Box…alternative to Netflix…no subscription…just saying!

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    Jan 21st 2015, 9:08 PM

    This. ShowBox is yer only man. Compatible with Chromecast too with the Bubbleupnp app on Android.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 9:38 PM

    I use localcast with it ,does that one work better

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    Jan 21st 2015, 10:47 PM

    Have looked at showbox before and don’t get it. Any suggestions for setting it up for a complete thick using iOS and appleTV??

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 12:11 AM

    Constantly crashing and getting blocked. Not much of an alternative.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 12:29 AM

    Try popcorn time for IOS

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 8:33 PM

    Couchtunter.eu for airplaying streamed content to apple tv. Or casting to chromecast for that matter

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    Jan 21st 2015, 10:23 PM

    Box set?….check out ‘The Killing’ on Netflix. It’s my new addiction.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 11:58 AM

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    Jan 21st 2015, 10:02 PM

    Netflix is great. Only 8.99 a month for two screens at the same time. Way cheaper than cable or sky. Don’t have to worry about repeats,

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 8:31 PM

    I see the standard account has gone from 6.99 (which allowed two screens) to 7.99 are they charging an extra euro for the second screen too?

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    Jan 21st 2015, 8:38 PM

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    Jan 21st 2015, 10:31 PM

    That’s me out so. Country living.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 7:13 AM

    Not necessarily, I watch Netflix USA via a dynamic DNS and have no issues even though I only get 5 Mbps from my connection.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 9:15 PM

    I use turboflix its Netflix really but they give you different dns codes on the gaming consoles it much better than the Irish Netflix so much to choose from its only 3 euro a month

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    Jan 21st 2015, 10:02 PM

    As I mentioned above, unotelly.com
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    Jan 21st 2015, 8:53 PM

    So if in a few years if most people just watch internet tv, what happens to traditional tv channels with little viewership they may disappear and we will be left with just subscription internet tv and that is not good news.

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    Jan 21st 2015, 9:45 PM

    Are you kidding me, I have access to thousands of amazing movies, TV shows, loads of kids TV for €7, or I can pay a rip off TV Licence for the late late show, give me Netflix any day.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 12:48 AM

    With 65 million paying subscribers a month earning them half a billion euro a month…. Internet tv is not only profitable but very enticing

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    Jan 21st 2015, 10:18 PM

    Try xbmc(now called kodi) with tvaddons. It has all the tv shows, Its free plus is up to date and has movies just released in cinema.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:21 AM

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 7:20 AM

    Interesting that Netflix is “arriving” in Australia in two months when there are already 250,000 households using the service through dynamic DNS bypassing the geo-blocking. Netflix’s Australian service will be competing against their own far superior USA service.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 8:28 AM

    Yes most will continue to watch the U.S. Version it’s a no brainer why pay the same for less content. This is something Netflix will have to sit do and have a long think about.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 8:25 AM

    Netflix US is great can’t say the same about the European version.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 1:22 AM

    HBO will wipe the floor with Netflix when it gets motoring.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 2:46 AM

    Portal TV app is by far the best and can be used with Chromecast,
    Watched Taken 3 on it last night ( only just out in cinemas ) and The Interview is also available.
    All the latest movies.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 12:58 PM

    How can I get American Netflix on my iPad?
    Any help would be great. Thank you.

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