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THERE HAS BEEN a ‘notable’ increase in hate speech and racist messages appearing across Dublin over the past five days, according to a group which works with immigrants.
A family home in Dublin was attacked over the weekend with graffiti telling the occupants to leave daubed across the front of the house. The Immigrant Council of Ireland noted that the attack coincided with posters about race issues appearing around Dublin’s city centre, and anti-Semitic messages painted onto the shell of the planned Anglo Irish Bank headquarters.
Denise Charlton, the head of the Immigrant Council of Ireland, said that some of the posters which have appeared in the city centre appear to be part of a co-ordinated action.
“Such messages of hate have no place in Dublin and will be rejected by all right thinking people,” said Charlton. “It is important that such incidents are not downplayed and are responded to in a serious manner.”
She said that there had been eight reported incidents of racism on one day alone this week, and called on public representatives to use “every opportunity” to make it clear that there is “no acceptable level of racism and xenophobia”.
The family home was daubed with the message “Out!!! If your [sic] not working Save Ireland” in black graffiti.
Some of the posters in the city centre claim that Irish people have been the victim of ethnic cleansing. Two other posters were pasted onto the windows of the offices of the Immigrant Council over a poster about reuniting families who have been separated by Ireland’s strict immigration rules. The poster says “What about re-uniting Irish families”.
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Immigrants can’t win. If they work they’re stealing our jobs, if they don’t they’re here for our benefits.
This article is about racism, not immigration. Not all immigrants are a different race to the majority or Irish nationals.
It is time everyone realised what racism actually means and stopped throwing the word around when anyone says anything anti immigrant.
Shame the Immigrant Council of Ireland didn’t help pay back any of the 1 million euro + legal bill owed to the State that Pamela Izevbekhai left behind when she fraudulently tried to claim asylum here with forged papers.
Of course all immigrants are a different race to us, they’re not Irish!
Each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics. This is the definition of race
Each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics.
The exact definition of racism is controversial both because there is little scholarly agreement about the meaning of the concept “race”, and because there is also little agreement about what does and doesn’t constitute discrimination. Critics argue that the term is applied differentially, with a focus on such prejudices by whites, and defining mere observations of racial differences as racism. Some definitions would have it that any assumption that a person’s behavior would be influenced by their racial categorization is racist, regardless of whether the action is intentionally harmful or pejorative. Other definitions only include consciously malignant forms of discrimination. Among the questions about how to define racism are the question of whether to include forms of discrimination that are unintentional, such as making assumptions about preferences or abilities of others based on racial stereotypes, whether to include symbolic or institutionalized forms of discrimination such as the circulation of ethnic stereotypes through the media, and whether to include the socio-political dynamics of social stratification that sometimes have a racial component. Some definitions of racism also include discriminatory behaviors and beliefs based on cultural, national, ethnic, caste, or religious stereotypes.
Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to the United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, and superiority based on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous, and that there is no justification for racial discrimination, in theory or in practice, anywhere.
“Of course all immigrants are a different race to us, they’re not Irish!”
Irish isn’t a race. It’s a nationality.
Waffler – being irish is not a race. Race is Caucasian, African etc
You are precisely the people I am referring to who do not understand what ‘race’ means
So by your argument if I say “I hate the French”, that’s not racist?
And the most moronic comment of the week goes to Mr. Towers!
Good post. But the Victorian ethnographers on this site aren’t going to be persuaded by your unfair use of informed evidence and facts; wouldn’t understand semantic shift if if bit them in the bajingo; and would prefer to cling onto their pseudo-scientific 19th century definitions rather than accept commonly understood modern legal or sociological terminology because then they can feel smug and self righteous.
I was responding to Marlon, BTW
African is not a race either! And in any case the Victorian racial classifications have been abandoned by everyone in the scientific, social scientific, and legal policy making worlds for a very long time now.
Excellent point William!
From a legal standpoint racism laws apply to any “group of persons by reason of the groupâs colour, race, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origins.â
Waffler you put it all in a nutshell; basically the Island of Ireland was never structured geographically or economically to facilitate the free flow of foreign immigrants. It was unsustainable from the outset and will get worse, civil unrest, exploitation, welfare abuse on a large scale and an increase in crime was inevitable. Ireland and Europe in general is a melting pot for corruption run by a cartel of politicians, bankers and bond holders, the latter are within the hierarchy of that cartel!
The curiosity is killing me….. Why all the Red Thmbs down for the facts I shared….?
Bobby Murray, you forgot to add that you see UFOs, you were abducted by aliens and that there is a conspiracy by the rest of the world to eradicate Ireland of the Irish.
there is a conspiracy by the rest of the world to eradicate Ireland of the Irish.
Well said Sean, and of course nationality is a social construct. Expect this to go over the head of the knuckle dragger’s
Yeah right Joe, shame the bankers don’t pay back the countless billions used to bail out the zombie banks, which you and your children,s children will pay for. KNOW YOUR ENEMY!!
Well said Colin Frawley.
Because, Marlon, people don’t need to be educated with your already well known facts a second time. We Irish know you work hard and contribute to society (congratulations but there are no medals for this so stop telling us). We know that welfare fraud isn’t exclusive to a particular race already so no need to remind us. Well done on your education and speaking of multiple languages – this is great, maybe, you can set an example for your children / colleagues but I don’t think anybody on here cares or has stated otherwise so stop blowing your trumpet and finally, your comments are extremely liberally biased which tends to irk Irish people.
In general Irish people are liberal (more true of the youth), tolerant and hard working so we appreciate those qualities in others. We don’t like loud mouthed lecturers telling us how we should think.
no, it’s not racist, it’s xenophobic, like being Irish, being French is not a race, it’s a nationality. Understand yet??
Wayne…. What an idiotic statement! People clearly do need to be educated. If people were better informed, maybe we wouldn’t be faced some of the problems we are now face.
Furthermore, I state my qualifications and achievements not to brag or boast, but to again inform…. If you take the time reading most of the comments on this site, you’ll find that there is a large percentage of people throw all non-nationals in the same pool of not working and “sponging” of the government. In one case, someone implied that I was on welfare. I share to show that stereotyping is unacceptable.
I agree, in general Irish people are liberal, tolerant and hard working…. However, there is still a contingency of Irish people who are adding “Messages of Hate” through various medium across Ireland.
And Wayne… For yourself…. We don’t like Tools and people who can’t face facts.
“I hate the French” is Xenophobic
you’re a moron.
Bobby your comment reeks of xenophobia. ‘ the Island of Ireland was never structured geographically or economically to facilitate the free flow of foreign immigrants’ are you blaming tectonic plate movements now?!
I never said people don’t need to be educated Marlon. It’s just that they don’t need to be educated by you. Like I said, nobody cares about your education, so there is no need to “inform” us of this. There is definitely NOT a large percentage of people here that “throw non-nationals in the same pool” and if you “agree” that in general we are liberal and tolerant such a statement is a contradiction to your earlier one. Make up your mind…
There are racists everywhere and it is not surprising that there is a small group of trash that go overboard in this little country. Is racism wrong? Of course it is but so is positive discrimination -which many of your posts attempt to convey in a veiled manner (your posts on the Hinds article and others highlight your agenda quite clearly).
@Marlon, The reason for the red thumbs down is clearly because your post was very, very long and no man can possibly be expected to read that much in a single sitting. Also, you used some long words. Obviously your post was discrimination against the illiterati who tend to form the racist movement.
Marlon, may I just say it’s a joy to read your comments on the Journal. You appear patient, balanced and articulate even on the most charged of topics. Do you have a blog? If you don’t, you should.
Tony… Thanks for the positive criticism….
Note to self… Keep Journal.IE comments brief and mono-syllabic.
Lol ;)
Meg, thanks for the compliment. I don’t have a blog…. I very seldom have anything to say….. Unless, it has something to do with injustice.
Wayne…. It’s a shame that your intelligence is over shadowed by your anger, insensitivity, short tempered and outrageous opinions.
Now as I said before…. Regarding the Hind case. I was stating that the murderer didn’t get off as freely as you were stating. You appear to have wanted him executed. Though it will not bring the victim back, or console her family in any form or fashion…. Execution and death penalities are wrong.
The murderer will be punished for the rest of his life, as he should. Furthermore, I illustrated the type of treatment the murdering sexual predator can expect to receive in the US once he is freed from incarceration in Japan. You, being who you are, decided to take this as supporting the murder.
Most people accept that you can change nationality while not the race. But if you say so if a foreign changes its nationality to Irish, imply he also changes race. Anyway, just small talk definitions, doesn’t really matter, Marlon Major formalised it well.
An opinion cannot be short tempered :/
Classic copy and paste jobby!
Actually Waffler , it is a fact that the more competition you have for Jobs from immigrants the less Jobs there will be available to native Irish People ,
It is a fact that Irish Companies are recruiting from outside of ireland . More than 17000 ppsn numbers were issued in the first 3 months of this year to places outside of Ireland like Brazil , Lithuania , Romania.
It is also a fact that many immigrants dont work , there are more than 70 000 foreign nationals on the Dole .
It is also a fact that our public services cant cope with the pressures form the increased population size . Our Hospitals are collapsing , our housing lists are boiling point , our schools are becomming overcrowded … etc etc.
So you know , while you can come out with the same rhetorical europhile statements , the fact remains that uncontrolled immigration is damaging Ireland and the services availabel to the Irish People.
“Actually Waffler , it is a fact that the more competition you have for Jobs from immigrants the less Jobs there will be available to native Irish People” – is it really competition, what kind of jobs are you talking about and for what companies? What are those companies options?
“More than 17000 ppsn numbers were issued in the first 3 months of this year to places outside of Ireland like Brazil , Lithuania , Romania.” – 17000 pps to places outside the EU is that what you are saying?
“It is also a fact that our public services cant cope with the pressures form the increased population size.” – most public services all over Europe are having trouble, only some people blame the immigrants.
“europhile statements”? – I take it you want Ireland to leave Europe?
“uncontrolled immigration is damaging Ireland and the services availabel to the Irish People” – Uncontrolled emigration from where? EU too?
I don’t care what colour anyone is or where there from but don’t come here and sponge off welfare as we have enough of our own doing that who never worked a second.
It annoys me to no extent the amount of foreign(not all) non eu people that live around me who get there house paid for and have loads of kids and cars and live a good live while stupid me have to goto work.
That is simply wrong.
“They get their house paid for”, yeah right
The irony is that these foreigners you seem to resent so much could probably express themselves in English far more clearly than you seem to be able to.
Worries you “to no extent”, ah well you’re grand so.
Totally agree lambu.
Stupidlambu….. Don’t forget the thousands of Irish born who have been intergenerationally dependent on the welfare system. Along with the folks you say come here specifically sponge off the Irish welfare system…. Why haven’t you voiced your hate equally against them?
@Eamonn predictive text what can I say. Thanks for the english lesson. Your intellectual ability has me in Awww at you.
@Marlon read before you comment please I clearly stated in my post that irish people are spongers too some inter generationional as you say. No it isnt a hate comment so dont make it something it isnt ok. It gets on my nerves but hate in its literal interpretation is definitely not what mean.
From your comment it seems you came to a conclusion before actually fully reading the comment.
Cos he’s a bigot.
Marlon, as an Irish person currently working and living away, I think you need to get your facts straight. The vast majority of Irish living away work for a living. They don’t cherry pick a country they are going to sponge off, stating that due to war oppression etc. they can’t live in there own country. Funny thing though when the alleged war is over they never go home!
Who is a bigot?
Stupidlambu…. In your comment you say “don’t come here and sponge off welfare”. Considering the topic of this article, your after thought to add “foreign(not all)” carries little weight to declare you opinion.
M… What are you on about? My comments are reflecting my thoughts concerning this article and for folks living and breathing in the Republic of Ireland.
I agree one hundred percent lambu and it annoys me to no end how the bleeding heart brigade call you and me racists for saying it.
I have it on good authority that there are presently over 78,000 non nationals on the dole in Ireland. This is not sustainable.
There has been a problem with our welfare system being abused (just by irish back then) since I was growing up in the 80′s in Dublin and if I was aware of it in my pre teen years my question is how on earth did it come to this?
In Ireland, if you work and struggle you have to ask if you can afford a baby or to wait. If on Welfare the question is answered by the system. Welfare should be a helping hand to support you in tough times and not a Lifestyle Choice !
Cop on Marlon you are nit picking. You are pissing me off now. You are just trolling now.
@ John. 20 billion on social welfare considering so many good people have left is un sustainable. 78000 non irish on the dole if that is correct is ridiculous. That means very close to 1 in 4 claiming the dole is non irish considering just over 400 k unemployed.
Drastic overhaul of social welfare is needed and huge efforts should be put into evaluating all that is on the social .
Stupidlambus point is essentially “I’m not racist but…I hate most people”. Very noble stuff.
John….. Ireland like the US and the individual states do have people who abuse the welfare system. Yes… There are many foreigners who abuse the welfare system… However, just like here…. many of the folks who are on the system are natives of that country.
You ask how we got here. I do have an idea how we got here. However, this isn’t necessary to rehash at this time. But I do know that the solution is means testing. Ireland really needs to understand wealth and need. Means testing can clearly demonstrate the need for government assistance.
But frustratingly, our government at every turn makes excuses for not instituting this tool
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Oisin. I didnt say I was or wasnt racist and I didnt say I hate people either. So where are you going with your point.
Ok marlon we’ve found some common ground here.
I agree, means testing is the answer as long as its not open to manipulation.
(And I’m not denying for one second that its solely a problem with non nationals in Ireland, we have far too many irish at it too but 78 thousand is a very high number)
Stupidlambu, perhaps it hasn’t occured to you that the majority of people who migrated to Ireland in the last decade came here specifically to work because our wages were much higher. Those people who settled here now most likely have mortgages here, children in school or even just really strong ties to their local community. Not all of them can just up and leave the moment their jobs are gone, which I’m sure is the same for many Irish families too.
Ah Eamonn is that how you can only present your views by being the commissioner for grammar? These attacks rightly or wrongly were inevitable, it has been happening in other countries before we allowed every foreign national with an excuse and many without an excuse to seek benefits and privileges that the Irish tax payer throughout the history of our state is paying for. The politically correct academics are ignoring the truth and are part of our problems!
lambu, you are stupid and you are racist. Whoever you are.
Great stuff John! Let’s figure out a way to discourage any abuse of the welfare system. This would include silly payments to recipients as: Chirstmas Bounus Check, Holy Communion\Confirmation Check. And let us not forget the nonsensical idea of allowing wealth people to return child benefit checks to the government should they determine that it isn’t needed.
Penelope… Your heart and mind are in the right place!
I can give you examples on how non-nationals abuse welfare system…examples that can give you nightmares.
I can give you examples on how Irish people do it too. What’s your point?
Tusa
Marlon, what is upsetting is when you have the audacity of foreign nationals justifying their scrounging off of Irelands welfare by stating that the Irish are scrounging of the welfare that the Irish tax payer is paying for. These non-nationals are in a country fighting another mans economic war, when they wouldn’t stay in the country of their birth and fight the ‘alleged’ injustices millions of their country men and women are left to fight! Do we allow the other millions of foreign nationals that remain in the country of their birth into our country and live of our welfare too?
Sounds a lot like the Rangers adaptation of thd Sloop John B, the faminescover why dont they go home
Colonel…. Your comment implies that it is acceptable for nationals to abuse the welfare system?
Is this correct?
I am of the opinion that our welfare sysems shouldn’t be abused by anyone!
That’s simply not true many people that came here for work!! It was not to work simply to claim benefits. Pamela was a prize example of one such liar who cost 2 million in legal fees and lied right to the day she left and contributed nothing. While you have people coming here never working and sending 27k per head home it’s not sustainable. Also in school they pinch everything and I mean everything it’s not sustainable.
78,000 out of 400,000 is less than 1 in 5.
Your maths could do with a brush up too lambu.
StupidLambu, if going against your way of thinking is trolling….. Then I hold my hand up…. I am trolling. However, there are some on this site would be of the opinion that your comments have an air of discrimination and closed mindedness. Who can say….?
Very few non-EU immigrants are eligible for benefits, despite paying taxes. Red Cross research has indicated that we put in far more than we take out, so it would be nice to see people actually provide evidence for generic claims about welfare fraud.
Well said Eamonn
M, your comment is absolutely outrageous! Most foreigners come here and work!!!!!! How dare you make light of the fact that people leave their home country out of fear! You of all people should know what it’s like to live away from home and that people don’t make that decision lightly. And as for the “the war is over and they don’t go home”- your ignorance is mind-boggling. How many millions of people left Ireland and won’t come home because they’ve settled in another country? I hope to God you don’t settle wherever you are and maybe lose your job. Imagine you might become one of those hateful foreign spongers!!
The problem as has been mentioned is of course the system. It baffles me how it has become socially acceptable to bleed the workforce dry through cuts and taxes-not to mention cuts to allowances that are needed, yet noone has the nerve or backbone to address the issue. The welfare system is supposed to give a “dig-out” when you are stuck to get you back on your feet in order to be a productive member of society, it is not there to support people for their entire life!
Nick — Nobody here will have a go at you though. You are the ‘right’ kind of immigrant. In fact, they probably wouldn’t consider you an immigrant at all. You’re the ‘right’ colour and you don’t have a ‘foreign’ accent.
I’ve had people give out about immigrants and foreigners in front of me and then be a bit baffled as to why I’m offended! Sure, I’m not one of “those” immigrants. It just seems that there’s a lot of assumptions made without actual statistics and evidence as to how immigration affects the welfare system and economy.
What is a non-national? Surely everyone has a nationality?
Actually, they do not – certain groups of people (Bedouins and some Palestinians being the most prominent) have no nationality. Regardless, it’s often used as an immigration shorthand to mean people who are not citizens of their country of residency.
In school they pinch everything? Im a teacher in a school with plenty of migrant children and the majority of them are excellent students, intelligent and well behaved. And before you start moaning about pamela, you do know that migrants outside the EU arent entitled to our welfare? But hey try not to let facts affect anything!
Eoghan — Stop spoiling the fun with your pesky facts.
Marlin, it’s good to see at this time of day your busy working !! Of course your not on SW reading the journal
M…. I am one of the lucky people to be gainfully employed, with a several college degrees under my belt and ability to speak a couple of languages.
Furthermore, my business hours are such that I begin work earlier than most and end work later than most…. I guess it’s a particular work ethic that people like you are unfamiliar.
What have you done for yourself lately?
Marlon, making a v good living for my children not sponging off others!!
The people referred to in this country as ‘non-nationals’ are usually people with a nationality other than Irish, and rarely Bedouins or others without a specific nationality. I think that Elisabeth’s point is that ‘non-national’ could be seen as quite an offensive term, and a different term, such as ‘foreign national’ might be more appropriate.
M…. I guess you and are similar in that we both work and don’t sponge. The difference is I’m working in Ireland and you are working in another country. The point is we are not sponging off the system like so many others may be apt to do.
“non eu people that live around me who get there house paid for and have loads of kids and cars”
Do you have a source to back up this claim?. Because I don’t see government paying for anyone’s house. I don’t think you even know what an Immigrant is, you are mixing them up with asylum seekers, that being said the Irish government treats the asylum seekers like shit! and the immigrants you see owning a house and all that?, they work, they bought all that with their job, no government paid for them…
Eoghan I hope you don’t teach English to your students. Did you not learn that you do not start a sentence with ‘And’ & you always use a capital letter when writing a persons name.
DJ…. As someone said earlier…. Don’t let facts get in the way of a good rant.
It appears that so many of the folks on this site fail in dealing with facts and accepting the truth.
Unfortunately, it was these types of attitudes that fueled the Klu Klux Klan and the Jim Crow Laws in the states. I hope that this frustration that people feel and target others for will culminate into something that this country will be embarrassed about years to come.
Oops, should point out that this isnt eoghan, but his dear sister who accidentally logged in on her brothers account and the site wont log me out again..pesky internet. Sorry bro!
Come on Eoghan own up & don’t be hiding behind your sisters skirt!
Petty excuse.
Marlon when is the last time you heard of thousands of Irish people arriving in a country and getting social housing and financial support despite never having worked a day in that country?
It never happen’s, ever! You’re a well known troll around here anyway with a dubious background.
Please provide your sources that thousands of immigrants are receiving social housing and financial support despite never having worked a day in Ireland.
with a dubious background.
Hi Ann, this is his sister. I was using my bro’s Ipad and didn’t realise he was still logged in.
Thanks for the spelling checks too, better hand back my degree so!
Tom Rooney…. You got the humour stick today…. A Troll calling another person a Troll (lol).
That’s just not true. If the they are not entitled to jobseekers benefit or unemployment benefit then they will get money from the relative local authority.
Where is your evidence, I mean real academic evidence not some red cross nonsense.
Immigrants, generally gain far more from being in Ireland than Irish society benefits.
Marlon, how come you claim to be born and raised in the USA yet have broken English akin to third world literacy standards.
Are you typical of the US educational system or the exception?
The problem lies with the system being open to being abused by those who know it inside out, whether they be Irish born or come from elsewhere to benefit from the benefits.
The system needs to be changed which in turn will change claimants mindsets as to how they need to be more self-dependent.
This is yet another example of politicians not efficiently running the country. However this time it can have far reaching social consequences.
Exactly!! People blame the immigrants when it’s the politicians that are at fault. People are entitled to the benefits that they get. There are Irish people benefitting in other countries no doubt.
So attacking the immigrants is really really dumb.
No the problems lies in racists being racist and other right wing people defending the.
Sick of the word racism it is thrown around too much with no backup data .
Oh your a racist blah blah fuc* off and look up what it means first.
Oisin, i fully agree with you. I can’t believe so many knuckle dragger’s red thumbed you. Unfortunately, this does tend to be the level of discourse in Ireland. These tough guys are well able to pick on minorities but hide like the disgusting creatures they are when faced with bank bailouts, property tax, water tax and a consistent attacks on their living standards.
Well said, Oisin.
Oisín, I completely agree. There is absolutely no excusing the behaviour of these people. They are simply making the situation Ireland finds itself in that bit more dark for all.
Totally right Oisin – it’s interesting how an article on the rise of racist behaviour is quickly blamed on the politicians and an “easy” welfare system rather than being acknowledged for the fact it is, i.e. racism is a problem in Irish society and seems to be getting worse currently.
Sand. Head. Bury.
PS – talking about stuff being “thrown around too much without any backup data” – where’s the data for all these ‘foreigners’ having their houses, loads of kids and cars paid for?
paul….where does it say government buy houses and car for immigrants ? mam i dont know where you get your stories from.
I should try to be diplomatic, but some people on this site are absolute blinkered morons. A family home is attacked by cowards for no other reason than the occupants race. What is the first thing some eejits on here come up with? “ah its the benefits system”. If every non-national was working full time in Ireland there would be the same clowns saying “their taking all the jobs”.
People need to stop listening to their mates down the pub for their current affairs information. The vast vast majority of immigrants that come to this country contribute to the economy, and even if they don’t NO-ONE has the right to attack another person because of where they come from.
What sort of backup data are you looking for beyond graffiti of people’s homes telling them to get out? Also if you want to look things up, it will help you heaps if you can spell and if you know the basic grammar rules of your own language. For instance, know the difference between “your” and “you’re”…
Well said Yvonne….have to laugh when people criticise immigrants fro “scrounging”, “taking our jobs” and “can’t speak English”, when they don’t even know basic spelling and grammar themselves.
Only thing to blame for racism are the racists. People like this charmer, whose group’s logo also appears to have been daubed alongside the anti-Semitic graffiti on the Anglo building: https://twitter.com/INBeire/status/336513288017952768
Fine to disagree with his argument. I do too. But grammar is so irrelevant to the topic.
I think it would be far more productive if the people involved protested outside Dail Eireann or the Immigrant Council offices or the Department of Naturalisation.
The only way to defeat the colonisation of Ireland is to confront the policies that enable it to happen , it is not the immigrants fault that our government are letting them into the country .
protest the government and their institutions , but its pointless and just wrong writing on peoples walls.
Ireland is a racist country,it has been for years,ive heard it myself around were i live,ive heard it from taxi men,children,all walks of life,its disgraceful,we are now a multi-cultural country an its about time Ireland accepted that fact,its not going away an the abuse will get worse till they stand up protest and riot and they will, irish attitudes towards foreigners need change.our children will grow with there children,what do we teach them?? to hate an abuse them? its not on an anybody encouraging racist behaviour should be ashamed.
Absolutely wrong ! Nobody is ENTITLED to anything in any country
TO TRUE FREE SPEECH IS NOW BEING VIEWED AS A RACIST ACTIVITY ,WHY NOT CALL NATIONALISM . WAIT TILL YOU SEE WHAT THESE SO CALLED LEADERS IN OUR HONEST DAIL ARE ABOUT TO ALLOW OUR COUNTRY TO BE FURTHER RAPED AND PILLAGED IE BULGARIANS AND MOR E ROMANIANS .GOD HELP OUR COUNTRY
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news…-29322775.html
It can be confirmed that the Anglo-Bank/New Central Bank HQ protest that appeared on Wednesday 5th June 2013 is unconnected to any political party, Youth Defence, or the people in the photo named in the twitter link.
https://twitter.com/Oireachtas_RX/st…245952/photo/1
The icon on the Anglo-Bank shell is not related to the use of the logo by the people on said twitter link.
It is however related to the other 2 graffiti (white race world population 8% and financial terrorism) shown in that link.
The Anglo-Bank protest is not related to any anti-immigration graffiti that appeared the next day 6/6/2013, or other posters in Dublin. It is an unconnected act and protest.The Irish as a sovereign indigenous people have a right to uphold the integrity of their indigenous character and the territory that safeguards that integrity.
INÁR gCOINNE.
Immigrant Council of Ireland, another publicly funded quango justifying its existence by making much out of very little. Inflate and publicise the instances of ‘racism’ and so ensure the continuation of said funding and the continued ability to wag the finger at the Irish taxpayer and insist that we are all in need of an ‘education’ only this right on quango can provide.
“Much out of very little”? Tell that to the people living in these houses Margie. Or should they just shut up and be thankful for what they’ve got?
If you call this very little you’re part of the problem
Well said Hugh.
You’re full of it Margaret. The Immigrant Council do hugely valuable work trying to combat disgraceful attitudes like yours. I hope you don’t have kids, I’d hate to think what they’re being told.
Briny Boy speaking of “disgraceful attitudes” your comments could definitely be put in that category. To hope that someone doesn’t have children is an outrageous comment and deeply offensive to both the person that you address it to and the thousands of people who can’t have children. You have contributed nothing to this debate other that deeply personal attacks and the use of the pejorative term “racist” without even trying to justify your position even though you expect everyone else to do so. You are exactly the sort of person that I was referring to when I commented earlier that anyone taking an opposing view on immigration was shouted down by bully boys who, instead of being able to justify their position, resorted to personal attacks to try and silence their opponents.
@Brian – Nice try at adopting the high moral ground but when you start blaming immigrant support groups for the rise in racism then your argument doesn’t even get off the ground. A person is either racist or they’re not. Blaming immigrant support groups for a rise in racism is a total cop-out on your behalf.
@ Brian, while I agree the comment was a bit ad hominem, I don’t see how the comment is offensive to people who can’t have children. “Don’t” is not the same as “can’t”, and the point that racist views are mostly gained in the home is a valid one, if expressed sub-optimally. It might be better to say, if you do have children, I hope you are not poisoning them with your prejudice.
@William – I probably should have phrased it better as I certainly would never wish that someone ‘can’t have’ children. But for Brian to say my comments were offensive to thousands is just way over the top.
Smug, sanctimony such as yours smacks of religious zealotry and the intolerance that it breeds. Self righteousness on a gigantic scale only breeds insufferable asses such as you.
@Margaret – Religious zealotry?? What are you talking about?
Briny Boy, great comments, i notice you stumped the bigot’s, they are finding it difficult to find a retort to an articulate viewpoint. Kudo’s to you my friend
…”the kettle”, “the pot” and “black” come rapidly to mind!
Oh and I’m not being racist, I’m referring to soot!
Funny thing about so called “Conservatives”. You see it in the Tea Party in the USA, Tories in Britain… They have no concept of the meaning of irony or even hypocrisy. And they invariably accuse their opponents of the very thing they themselves are most guilty of.
Most racism is based on ignorance!
I don’t agree, it is usually based on some solid truths, once the hook is in the standard racist agenda appears.
All racism is based on racism!
I am one of the few who leaves my estate in the morning to go to work, not because the others can’t find work it’s because they won’t find work, happy to stay at home and bask in our over generous social welfare system, many are foreign national single mothers housed by landlords because they are guaranteed of payment through rent allowance. Don’t worry I am an equal opportunities detester, as I detest Irish people who milk the system as much, its just that in my estate there are less of them to detest, I am not a racist I am a realist…….
”Most racism is based on ignorance!”……………… I completely agree… most of the ”racist” people i know are ignorant, and by the whole, not well educated or traveled,…. working shite minimum wage jobs or unemployed themsevels……And seeing the shite minimum wage jobs that are available being taken by foreign nationals who are willing to work…
I think it is inevitable that at times of economic stress people will blame the “outsider”. This is never acceptable. We Irish, with our history of emigration and of being on the receiving end of the vilest forms of discrimination, should know better. It is not helped by the ease with which, left wing comentators in particular, blame distant foreigners for our self inflicted economic woes. That gives license to others to do the same more locally.
This is true.
When times are tough, blame the foreigners for all your short comings.
No jobs – foreigners took them, even if it’s the doctors and you haven’t even got a leaving cert!!
Too true Sean, unfortunately those that don’t know their history are doomed to repeat it.
But with every other article in the papers alluding in one way or another about how much the entitlement culture costs us, and with a government that loves to engage in small debate and ad hominem attacks rather than deal in broader issues, is it any wonder that illiterate and racist buffoons such as this feel empowered to launch their pathetic attacks?
When ‘we irish’ left in our droves in previous bad times there was little intention of returning home and we went to work – not to claim a house & welfare, free education & health care from whatever state we arrived to. This is still the case, irish people emigrate for work, not for a better welfare payment.
Well said Shaun…
Couldn’t have put it better Shaun.
Anonymous sheep: Many of our immigrants want nothing more than to work but they are not allowed to. Most are forced by economic circumstances at home to leave and we should be grateful for their gumption in trying to better themselves instead of staying at home and blaming their government for not giving them work. And please remember there were plenty of Jack the Sheep saying the Irish only come to England to sponge off our welfare system.
I think you’re very confused Sean, the left are very strong on the issue of racism. Equality is one of the key corner stones of being “left-wing”. It’s right wing types that stir up racism.
Do you mean the working class
“It’s right wing types that stir up racism.”
Prepare to have your mind blown:
I’m from the traditional UK Tory right and I’ve been a victim of racism.
@ Martin Grehan
True the left is traditionally seen as the bastion of equality, rights, internationalism, anti-racism, and political correctness BUT in Ireland the left is anti internationalist, anti EU, anti UN and the pronouncements from leftist leaders about international institutions, foreign influence, Angela Merkel and so on are downright xenophobic.. and the left does not have a good record in vindicating individual rights and freedoms.. witness the Socialist Republic of Cuba, the socialist Peoples Republuc of China, the socialist Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea, the socialust Soviet Union… the right does a lot more to protect individual rights.
Even though I would disagree a lot with the “far left”, to say they are somehow pro-racist is totally wrong. I think the vast majority of the left-wing in Ireland would absolutely favor an internationalist stance but they don’t see the EU (which is traditionally dominated by the centre-right) as a vehicle for their movement.
I think for the ease of argument there needs to be a separation between the “traditional right” such as classical liberals and social conservatives (that you rightly point out are pro-individual rights, at least in the economic sense). The “right” being spoke about here in this instance is the ultra-nationalist right in the same vein as Nazi Germany. They ironically enough would share elements of economic agreement with the left i.e. nationalisation of industry etc. but its totally focused on making the “pure nation” powerful at the expense of all individual rights especially “outsiders”. Whereas the “traditional right” would be generally more open to immigration, and see the free market as a vehicle for greatness.
I do realise there is a lot of rights in this comment.
I think you make my point.. the traditional right are inclusive, the new left is exclusive
Antoin, you are totally clueless if you think the people running the EU are right wing.
Almost all of the EU leaders were communist right through their youth, only jumping into centrist party’s in the name of careerism. Their communist ideals are still with them and the destruction of nations is chief among their goals.
Hopefully this is the work of only a few small minded individuals however this is something that has been brewing for a long time now. The lack of proper immigration policy by previous Governments over the years has lead to people abusing the asylum laws and this has lead to an underlying resentment with the Irish public. When times were good and there was a lot of money around people didn’t pay any attention to the abuse of the immigration system or the abuse of the law whereby a child born in Ireland was granted citizenship and this gave the parents the right to stay in Ireland. The slow processing of applications also lead to people unnecessarily spending months if not years waiting to see is their application to stay was successful.
If anyone questioned immigration policy they were immediately branded a racist even is their arguments had a sound basis for debate. It was politically incorrect to question the abuse of immigration laws and the asylum process and so debate on the subject was stifled. Those who did question the process predicted that these sort of attacks would come about just as they have in other countries around the world. In 2014 when Romanians and Bulgarians are allowed free access to EU nations without the need for work permits the problem of racism will only get worse. If a proper policies had been put in place in the first place the issue of racist attacks could have been nipped in the bud.
Well said.
Brian…… This may be true…. I haven’t read the Irish Immigration Policy…. Regardless, I do you believe you. The Irish Immigration policy could be wanting. However, add this policy with the hundreds of other policies that are also wanting or non-existing
.
Respectfully, I would like to remind you as I have been reminded when I find the lack of governance on certain issues….. “ROI is a young country, no one ever thought Ireland would be where are today.”
In my opinion, this is no excuse…. However, the above statement is supposed to explain the situation.
Marlon, Ireland may be a young country as you say but that does not or should not stop us from learning from other countries with more experience in matters of policy in any area. The UK for example has growing racial tensions due to it’s failed policies on immigration and we should have looked to their situation and learned from it. I have no problem with people coming to Ireland and seeking a better future so long as it is done within the law and I don’t think that is too much to ask. Those people who abused the asylum process put genuine asylum seekers at risk but people ignored this fact because it was politically incorrect to have a mature discussion on the subject.
The influx of immigrants into the country has helped the Irish people to experience new cultures and ways like never before and this can only be a good thing. Where the problem lies is that now that the economy is not doing so well money and jobs are scarce, people who before turned a blind eye to immigration abuse are now taking it out on foreigners. This is wrong because we allowed them to enter the country and gave them leave to stay so they have every right to be here. The people who flagged this issue and raised concerns were shouted down and were called racist by bullying groups who preferred to indulge in personal attacks rather than have a mature debate on the issue. If anyone is to blame for the rise of racism in Ireland it is the very groups that supposedly are there to support immigrants in the first place.
Brian…. I agree with your comment. However, it appears as an outsider my suggestions that Ireland should take more notice of successes found in other countries…… And try to incorporate them here to some degree…. I’ve been told….. “If you don’t like how it’s done here, go back home” Or “No one asked you to come here”. Both comments I find insulting, especially being that I am a gainfully employed, tax paying citizen of this country.
Marlon, that is because the messenger is being shot before the message is being heard.
You do know that children in Ireland aren’t granted citizenship automatically anymore?
And I live in Britain and it speaks volumes that you describe it as having “growing racial tensions due to it’s failed policies on immigration” – on my street, all the ethnic minorities are Brits. The immigrants are the Caucasians (in my house, for example, there’s a Belgian, my Irish partner, myself and a Polish family.) You’re buying into assumptions as to what makes you British or Irish: a British or Irish passport, not the colour of your skin.
Good point, however non-Irish parents whose children were born in Ireland after 2003 have not automatically gained Irish citizenship. The law was changed because it was considered a loophole in Ireland’s immigration law, which of course it was.
Well, if by loophole, you mean, in line with many countries, including the US, Australia, Canada and France.
Nick, again you are wrong. Having an Irish passport makes you an Irish citizen, it doesn’t magically turn you into an Irish person.
The point is about sustainability, we simply have not got the infrastructure to support to continued arrival of thousands of poorly skilled migrants, we don’t have jobs to support them either.
Irish citizens aren’t migrants – you seem to be confusing the two.
And of course that’s the definition of being Irish – not only legally, but what else are you planning to use as your odd arbitrary cutoff? My children will only have one Irish parent – are they “really Irish?” What about people who are first generation? Second generation? Descended from Vikings? Are they really “Irish?”
And it’s interesting that the same people who make generic statements about the dangers of an influx in migration never mention the tenuous laws which allow the Irish diaspora to seek Irish citizenship….. Why on earth should a Canadian who has never been to Ireland but had an Irish grandparent be a citizen while the child of two immigrants who grew up in Ireland should not?
I have confused nothing Nick, you seem to be deeply confused.
Your children will not be ethnically Irish, they will be half Irish and half whatever your wife’s nationality is, you would be doing your wife a disservice to just blatantly disregard her heritage because of a passport.
Ireland has been a distinct, homogeneous nation for millenia, the idea that a few invasions over thousands of years somehow changed this fact is ridiculous.
I adhere to the Jus sanguinis view of Nationality as do many Irish people.
Well, ignoring the assumptions you’ve made (my male partner is the Irish one, I’m American) – my children will be of dual heritage, they can appreciate both.
“Ireland has been a distinct, homogeneous nation for millenia, the idea that a few invasions over thousands of years somehow changed this fact is ridiculous.” And that’s prejudice. There’s a difference between concern over immigration and prejudice, but claiming that people who love Ireland, work hard, build a life for themselves in Ireland can never be Irish is prejudice – and most Irish people wouldn’t agree with it.
And yes, the jus sanguinis principle leads you to the belief that a child of immigrants who grew up in Ireland, plays for his local GAA team and speaks Irish is not as “truly” Irish as a Canadian grandchild of an Irish emigrant who has no interest in Ireland and has never been there.
‘we simply have not got the infrastructure to support to continued arrival of thousands of poorly skilled migrants.’
Not everyone who comes to this country is ‘poorly skilled.’ And I would remind you that it costs thousands a year to stay here.
I agree Laura not everyone who comes here is low skilled, and I never said everyone who comes here is low skilled, but the majority who come here from outside of Europe are low skilled and that’s just a fact.
Do some research on it.
So what if they are? And you saying it without evidence does not make it a ‘fact.’
Marlon, you are a waffler who has claimed to be from the US then from other places, I’ve caught you out on so many issue now that it’s become repetitively boring to say the least.
Just to correct your false assumptions…again, Ireland is an ancient Nation not a new Nation. It is the problem of mass immigration from economic opportunists that is a relatively new problem hence the reason why policy is lacking and badly needed.
But Laura it is a fact, I challenge you to disprove my claim, I bet €1000 you wont be able to disprove it. So get going, here’s a tip. http://www.cso.ie/en/index.html
But It is a fact Laura, I challenge you to prove me wrong. I bet €1000 you wont be able to.
Unlike yourself and your ilk I don’t spout over emotional opinions and tout them as fact.
Lets stick to the facts shall we?
‘Emotional opinions.’ Spare me your nonsense, Tom. You have an issue with non-Irish living here and that is bigoted.
Laura here’s your chance to prove your not just another clueless, ill informed, half wit. Prove to us how or what I said that was bigoted, or does pointing to reality mean someone is a bigot in your twisted little head?
Actually , your wrong Brian , when times where good there was lots of posters around like keep Ireland white etc ,
you are mistaken if you think money and racism go hand in hand.
The same dummies who do this probably have/had a member of the family go overseas for work. Uneducated fools!!
Sadly…. There is to much hate and anger in the world.
It would be nice if people could remember the following “Change what cannot be accepted and accept what cannot be changed.”
Forever more, Ireland will be a country multi-nationals…. This will not change. And we must accept the fact that there is no groups of people whose race, colour, religion, creed, sex, sexual orientation or political status are with out good and bad.
Cowards, do it in daylight outside your group I dare you.
Damned knuckle-dragging racists.
hey aren’t you being racist by assuming that everyone who has long arms and short legs is stupid? ;)
Plenty of racists reading The Journal this morning, judging from the amount of red thumbs for anti-racist comments. Why don’t you all just come out and say exactly what you think?
Racism has no part to play in modern Ireland and it’s not helped by people posting hysterical rubbish about the Immigrant Council being another quango. Cop on.
But if the immigrants leave who will pay taxes to pay for the dole for these chancers?
Surely they wont stoop so low as to work at mickey d or learn a few languages and work at one of the multinationals.
Exactly
This is a very slippery slope isolating immigrants that come to Ireland & normally these acts are carried out by thugs that themselves contribute little to society. Here in the UK this tension is growing & will result only in bad things for all sides. We would all do well to remember racism is also fascism that brings benefits to no one.
Its the average Joe struggling to pay his bills and his working. He turns around n sees a car n people carrier in many of non nationals fine 3 of 4 bedroom houses. Which the council/tax payer is paying for. Some people have the welfare system figure out to a tee. Remember how birth rates dropped when the “automatic passort” loop hole was fixed. All the others need to be closed too. Mean while attitudes will worsen.
Indiscriminate rasism is a cancer that if not checked and allowed to take hold will destroy the hater,if you want evidence just look north for the results,the issue of welfare spongers is the result of lack of enforcement of the law,and this applies to Irish spongers who are doing the same thing,
the indiscriminate targeting of immigrants will result in innocent people suffering just because they look different,not because of any wrongdoing.
well said richard. Marty you’re just an I’ll informed coward looking for an easy target
This article isnt about bullshit myths about social welfare or the definition of race which some people seem very precious about. Its an article about hate messages becoming more common in Dublin, decent people should condemn this and remove these stickers if they see them. Bigots will split hairs, distract and defend.
I hear your a racist now fr Ted
I suppose everyone is going off topic a bit including me . The main point is there is no place in irish society for hate crimes on anyone. Hating on someone because there not born in ireland is wrong or becuase of there nationality or race.
I myself am not racist at all – personally I could not care about skin colour but what really gets my back up is that there are now certain areas of my city ( Dublin ) that you cant even walk into without feeling a minority. Look at South Circular Road , its a Muslim hive. My bigger problem is that the majority of Muslims living there have little to no interaction with the Irish native people. They have their own shops, and schools and they do not interact with anyone thats Western as far as I can see so what benefit is it to us the Irish people to have a colony of people here on our shores that are against our way of life. If I was over in their country I can assure you that I would be granted nothing , whats more if I wanted to express my religious beliefs they would not jump to my whims and build me a church. The thing that annoys me most though is that the ammount of foreign people here that dont take the time out to learn the native language is shocking. I think we should take a leaf from the Australian prime minister’s book and give Ireland , our small Ireland back to the Irish people.
I completely agree with you
I dont even know you Mr Kelly but i agree with you 100%………….
“what really gets my back up is that there are now certain areas of my city ( Dublin ) that you cant even walk into without feeling a minority”
This is exactly what xenophobic English people were saying about places like Kilburn and Cricklewood when Irish immigrants were moving there in their thousands in the 1950s and 1960s. Or indeed South Boston. And probably what some Aussies feel about parts of Sydney today!
If you walked around the South Circular Road (specifically Portobello and Clanbrassil St area) in the 1930s or 1940s, you would have seen the shops, schools, synagogues and homes of a couple of thousands Jews. Many of whom were non-English speakers from Lithuania and Eastern Europe. They settled here, made this city their home and made a long lasting positive impact on Dublin’s landscape.
The Muslim community, some of whom have been settling in roughly the same area since the 1990s and 2000s, will no doubt make another positive impact over the coming decades.
And no doubt whoever comes after them in 80 or 90 years time will do the same.
I myself am not racist at all â personally I could not care about skin colour but…
The good old “I’m not racist but…”
Christopher the North inner city of Dublin is populated by almost 80% non Irish born people.
What a scary statistic for indigenous Irish people.
That would include my Irish mate who was born in New York as well as naturalised, proud Irish citizens. Have you even bothered to look into the details of statistics?
Scary?
God you’re a delicate flower. What are you frightened of exactly?
Nick the vast majority in the north inner city who were not born in Ireland are from Africa, India, eastern Europe and China.
I suppose you’ll claim the same for the 88,000 visa applications made last year to live and work in Ireland. http://www.thejournal.ie/visa-immigration-ireland-2012-737991-Jan2013/
@Tom – You mention below that you served in Ireland’s Defence Forces. Yet you’re talking about being ‘scared’ of the immigrant population. You’re not exactly a good advert for the Defence Forces, are you?
You’ve provided no source for that information. Where is it? And again, some are Irish citizens – they have exactly the same entitlements as you.
And I’m not really seeing your point on the visas – these are people following legal routes to come to live and work in Ireland.
Far from it Petr, I’m wise to your twisted ideology and you know it.
You can’t argue with the facts and reality so try to equivocate and spin waffle in the hope of spreading confusion.
I am deeply concerned at the continued and orchestrated attack on Irish culture and society.
I am frightened for the countless low skilled workers who are forced into a race to the bottom, competing with cheap foreign labour who will accept lower pay and standards due to their ignorance.
I’m frightened because unscrupulous employers are consistently choosing to hire cheap foreign labour for the reasons outlined above.
Actually, Tom, you’re pretty thin on the ground when it comes to “facts.” First of all, you’re confusing immigration with a rejection of Irish culture and society. I’m a non-EU immigrant and my children will be Irish. It’s important to me that they one day have a strong connection with that aspect of their culture and heritage, so I’m a bit baffled at your automatic assumption that immigration = “no interest in Irishness”
And if you are concerned with a race to the bottom for low skilled workers, the best thing you can do is call for an enforcement of the minimum wage and vigorous prosecution of Irish employers who exploit workers with low pay, not scapegoat the immigrants who want to make a better life for themselves.
I am deeply concerned at the continued and orchestrated attack on Irish culture and society.
All of my African friends in Dublin ate doctors, my two Greek friends are a pharmacist and a lecturer at DIT. My Polish friends all work in IT for big companies and many were brought over because of their knowledge and and experience. I would hardly call that cheap labor!
*are not ate lol
“Immigrants” is a generic term which includes a lot of people, including: Australian students, African doctors, spouses of Irish citizens, Polish builders, Nigerian cab drivers, Iraqi asylum seekers (and yes, I’m deliberately dealing in cliches) – to take one and assume that they represent all immigrants is a bit silly.
Danielle, all of your highly skilled friends are in a tiny minority.
It is a matter of statistical fact that the vast majority of immigrants to Ireland work in low skilled employment. Over 70% of employees in the service sector are non Irish.
If you need proof go check out the CSO website. I’m not doing your research for you.
I think you mean this report:
And again, you’re using massive generalisations. For example, if you look, British immigrants are more likely to work in medical and social work fields….
I used to live in that area and I had no problems whatsoever. The Asian shops had great food and friendly people. I had a lovely GP, too. As for having little interaction with the Irish, my ex boyfriend is from Pakistan, we had plenty of interaction believe me, and shared a group of friends from all over. You don’t seem to realise that there are little Irish communities all over the world, you’ll seek out your own no matter where you are. It’s natural.
You might not be racist but to assume that people should come to this country and mimic your lifestyle is at best arrogant and at worst, xenophobic.
Nick all of what I have claimed can be verified if you are not too lazy to check it up. Otherwise prove me wrong.
Nick Beard ‘And if you are concerned with a race to the bottom for low skilled workers, the best thing you can do is call for an enforcement of the minimum wage’
I have done Nick, I’ve helped several Polish friends through the process of bringing employers through the employment tribunals and helped them win their case.
What have you ever done for these people?
The point is employers will almost always take the route that leads to maximum profit, in turn displacing Irish workers so they can exploit foreign workers. It is that simple, so flooding the Irish labour market with cheap and desperate low skilled foreign labour only serves the unscrupulous employers and big business elites. FACT!
Can you back your comment up with actual evidence?
Would you like sworn affidavits from the people I helped, or would you like me to commission a red C poll on the issue? Anyone who hasn’t seen what I outlined above in some way is out of touch with what’s happening on the ground and therefore is clueless on the reality of the issue.
Check out the labour court and employment appeals tribunal, you’ll get all the proof you want.
No, actual evidence would not, not bullsh*t barstool philosophy which you appear to be very good at.
Irish immagrated for work they r not social welfare tourists.very naive to believe we do not have social welfare tourists.
Equally naive to believe Irish people have not been welfare tourists
Irish people have far more entitlement to welfare benefits in Britain than non-EU immigrants do in Ireland…..
Richard, are you aware of the amount of Irish in America staying there illegally? Not paying taxes, getting cash in hand? You would not accept that here, surely
And rightly so Nick Beard. Non EU immigrants should not be entitled to anything in the EU, why the hell should they? If I go to Australia I wont be entitled to social welfare until at least 4 years there working.
What has Irish people staying in the US illegally got to do with Irish immigration policy? That’s right, absolutely nothing.
So because a few Irish people decide to break US law that means the rest of us in Ireland should accept illegal immigration? Are you for real?
It was in direct response to Richard’s comment. Do keep up.
And it was an ill informed nonsensical direct reply Laura. But don’t let me stop you making a fool out of yourself.
Tom, you are a sad prejudiced man. Your opinion of me is completely irrelevant.
Anti semetic is not racist . The jews arent a race and anti semetic is not anti zionism , theres a huge difference. Im not racist but i do not like Nigerians white or black if you meet a bad one youll know all about it.
If you meet a ‘bad Irishman’ you’ll know all about it too. What’s your point?
Oh my God!
Agreed
@phunkyboy: first of all the word is “Semitic”. Secondly, anti-Semitic is a racist term because it actually refers to the Semitic peoples (people from the Arabian peninsula broadly , including Arabs, Hebrews etc). People read it as meaning anti-Jewish,but given that people often treat Jewish people as more like a “race” or ethnicity than a religion (all you have to do is look at anti-Jewish caricatures, it is arguably racist (in that it is attacking people on ethnic grounds rather than beliefs) in any case. Finally, even if you think that it is ok to hate people on the basis of their religious or cultural heritage than their ethnicity, you are a bigot.
@Phunkyboy – You’re not racist but…
@William You can apply everything you said to being Irish. Paddy’s day is a racist day in context.It’s nice being prim and proper but I bet most of the people here discriminate against the travelling community and the Anti Muslim sentiment here is disgusting. People just kidding themselves that they’re not bigots but they are and thats a fact.
Btw William you know nothing about me .Most Irish people aren’t bothered mixing with other communities and culture . Ive been to many events run by polish , russian and africans and its very refreshing to experience different cultures.Im not indigenous to this country. I encountered anti race sentiment from Irish from a very early age which encouraged me to mix in the minority communities which has been very fulfilling . People love to hate thats human nature .
Lol
Phunky, are you an idiot or just a wind up merchant.
You really think it is the responsibility of Irish people to make an effort to mix with foreigners who come to Ireland? You really think Irish people should discard their culture and attempt to integrate with all the various hodge podge of cultures in Ireland now?
Where’s the logic these days?
‘Im not racist but i do not like Nigerians’
The latter negates the former
‘im not racist, but…..’ is probably the most common phrase used in ireland today, it goes to show the general feeling around the country. nationalism is on the up, and most people are afraid to speak out for the fear of being branded by the PC brigade
‘Anti semetic (sic) is not racist.’
LOL is probably the best response to that.
People should be afraid to make racist comments (like saying all Nigerians are the same) because it IS racist. That’s not the PC brigade, that’s the “don’t be a racist eejit” brigade…
Nick Beard, again with your flawed logic and misunderstanding of basic terms.
Saying all Nigerians are the same is not a racist comment, it is a generalisation.
Again, it is NOT racist, it is a generalisation. Got it?
Jews are an ethnic group, you can identify a Jew through DNA testing. Enjoy your ignorance.
JEWS and Arabs are the SAME RACE they are the semetic peoples ,Even theyre religions overlap.I didn’t learn this from wikipedia either , as i don’t have to as i have Jewish and Arab friends.
Youre probably to dense to respond in any other way.Tim Stephen Hendy
I’m not Irish, obviously.
But I’m EU and I carry an EU passport.
I live in Ireland for many years, now. More like 8 years.
When I was laid off in 2008, the friendly folk at the Dole office told me that my welfare application would take a loooooong time to complete and that I would be better off to return to my “home country”. Indeed, my application wasn’t dealt with at all, whereas the Irish co-worker who got laid off the same day as me even got an advance payment. Thankfully, I found a new job some half a year later. But guess what…? I never ever received any support from the Irish welfare system other than the friendly reminder that my application would take a while and that I should better return to my “home country”.
And I’ve paid a huge amount of taxes and PRSI etc. in this country. Ireland IS my home country now.
Do you wear a Burqua ? That works it would seem.
People at the dole office are morons! I tried to sign on once when I lived at home in Dublin (I have since immigrated) after being unable to work due to injury and was told ‘No, you live on a nice road, you can’t sign on!’ My da went mental when he found out but the refused to give me anything despite working for 3 years!
Glad you got another job though : )
No Burqua, I’m afraid.
But being told to better leave the country is racism.
Well Karsten if Ireland is so bad and the system treats you as bad as you say, why are you still here?
Are the government or the people of Ireland preventing you from getting on a plane and going back to your country of birth?
Tom, where did I say that Ireland
is bad? There is some racism against non-Irish lurking, but I have made it my home anyway.
Are you suggesting that I should leave?
You were bitching about Ireland the systems here, if you don’t like the way things are here feel free to leave, I thought I was quite clear before.
Bitching?
I was (and still am) paying lots of taxes here. Lots of PRSI, too. I am contributing to the wealth of this nation by supporting a lot of Irish jobs. So I am – in turn – eligible to the same support as any other tax-paying citizen. Should you believe that only natural born Irish are eligible to support, then please join the line to the right where the National Front is waiting.
Karsten, if as you claim you are paying a ‘lot’ of PRSI and tax then that must mean you earning a lot of money here, in which case you are benefiting from living in Ireland, not Ireland benefiting from you.
If you left Ireland today it would not not matter one little bit to the Irish economy, so don’t over estimate your meager contributions when you gain so much from being here.
No Immigrant should be entitled to any benefits for at least 5 years. Just like many other first world country’s. Remember Karsten, you chose to come here, Ireland owes you nothing and nobody is preventing you from leaving anytime you want if you don’t like it here.
Your national front comment is beyond pathetic.
Tom,
sorry, but I disagree. First, I pay taxes. I pay PRSI, this entitles my – by law – to some support. Second I live here, I stay here, my pay (which is half decent, indeed) stays here and since I do not send my money abroad, but rather pay my expenses, consumables etc. here, I support a lot of jobs. The job I do could be done from other international locations as well. I do not HAVE to be here to do my job. I could – if I wanted to – do my job from France, Germany … you name it. But I made Ireland my home – more than 8 years ago and I like to stay here. With me being here for more than 8 years, your comment about the 5-year threshold (which is your opinion, not the actual law, btw.) doesn’t apply either.
Also, I never said I do not like it here. I do, otherwise I would have left quite a while ago.
But what I say is that there is a lot of racism lurking here, that in everyday life even well-integrated people from the EU have to face discrimination because of their origin.
You are one prime example of this hidden racism.
As were the people in the dole office. I’ve paid my taxes and PRSI in an unbroken 6 year term and they suggested that I “should better leave” because my application would “take a looooong time to process” while someone else with lesser tax/PRSI record was given advance pay.
You think this is ok, just because I am not a bearer of an Irish (but still an EU) passport?
You believe that I should be discriminated because my parents weren’t Irish?
You believe that I have no right to complain about this apparent discrimination?
Tom,
I’m not working in sales. Thanks for your misconception. I am a highly skilled IT professional holding multiple degrees.
You have an idea about the concept of the European Union?
You have an idea about equality?
You have an idea about the fact that thousands of Irish currently enjoy absolutely the same rights and benefits than every other citizen in other parts of the EU? Currently a lot of Irish are leaving and can do so just because the concept of the EU.
I did apply for an Irish passport btw. Will the fact that I soon carry an Irish passport change anything about me (other than the respect that I show for my chosen home? I would not need to apply for an Irish passport thanks to the EU, you remember?) once I get my new passport?
And yes, stating “Irish first!” puts you in line with other racists.
Karston you are an inside sales engineer. That’s not a highly specialised skill set.
Besides that, you have just demonstrated that you are an unashamed liar and deceiver.
I have not once uttered any racist sentiment, putting Irish citizens first in Ireland makes perfect logical sense. Only a depraved lunatic with a severe sense of self entitlement would think otherwise.
Its always amazing that people know better what my profession is than I do.
Sales Engineer does not necessarily mean that one works in sales. I share contacts with sales, but belong to and report to the engineering division. My job is – among lots of other duties – to liaise between the customer and our development division, meaning I need to know both – the operations on the customer side and the operations, capabilities etc. of our own side.
Not all products are equal, not all sales are equal and without a solid knowledge – in terms of degrees – of both sides of the equation, you’re doomed to fail. But I do not believe that you can understand the complexity.
So, if I would support those, who – like the British National Front – would call for a repatriation of the Irish diaspora, you would surely agree, wouldn’t you?
“Irish first”, your statement of denying EU citizens basic rights, your wish of increased taxation for non-irish and your evasion of my last questions make you exactly that: a racist
You have an idea about the concept of the European Union?
You have an idea about equality?
I did apply for an Irish passport btw. Will the fact that I soon carry an Irish passport change anything about me (other than the respect that I show for my chosen home? I would not need to apply for an Irish passport thanks to the EU, you remember?) once I get my new passport?
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So, handing me an Irish passport (and yes, I still would be allowed to keep my current one, too!) would turn me from a person that needs to be discriminated against into a valuable equal-rights member of the Irish nation? Whereas without, solely with my EU citizenship, I shall be a secondary class person with inferior rights? Is that what you say?
Karston, you engineer sales.
I never said EU citizens should indefinitely have to work on visas and be subject to restrictions, I did say that they should be subject to restriction until they gain Irish citizenship. Otherwise they should only be allowed work on visas like in Australia.
But that’s beside the point. It is obvious to all who read your self pitying rants that you don’t even know the basic meaning of the word racist. You bandy about words like racist in an attempt to stifle legitimate concerns from being expressed. You are living proof that education does not equate to intelligence.
Despite your claim of possessing numerous degrees it appears you lack basic comprehension or the ability to think rationally. Don’t try to belittle my intellect Karston, that’s a battle of wits you will lose every time.
Could you, Tom, please answer my questions?
Your mentioning of “Visas” tells everyone that you are the worst kind of racist: a closet racist that just is too shy to at least stand proud and admit to his racism.
Sorry, this conversation is over. Btw. you can’t give satisfaction anyway. Racists can’t give satisfaction.
Karston I have stopped taking you seriously from now on, I’m sorry I gave you the benefit of my time now.
You claim that because I think issuing visas to immigrants for the purpose of work that this means I’m a racist? By your logic the entire EU, Canada, USA, Australia and countless other Nations are all racist because they have a visa requirement.
You’re logic is baffling, haha.
One last word:
There is a slight difference between denying people rights that they already have and setting up rules where there have not been rules before.
Like it or not, we are now part of the EU and that gives every citizen of the EU equal rights in each of the EU countries. Denying those rights on the base of nationality, gender, religion etc. is racism.
Per definition of the United Nations:
the term “racial discrimination” shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.
Which shows that your wish to increase taxation and deny basic rights is racism.
End of discussion.
Karston, again you fail to grasp the concept of racism or the point I’m making. I’ll leave you to carry on in your ignorance. May I suggest that the next course you do b=should cover areas of critical thinking, rational thought and basic comprehension.
Over and out!
Such a shame immigrants come to Ireland only to get benefits. Oh yeah am neither white nor Irish. I work my ass off and some idiots live on the tax am paying and yet they get the Irish citizenship because of human rights. Come on where is my human rights whilst am paying a hell lot of tax? I believe Irish people on the doll are wrong and lazy but they are born here and they have the ‘right’. I have never been racially abused by Irish people unless they are a bunch of knackers who are pussies anyway. I have seen non Irish people(eu and non eu) living on benefits and proud of it and it is a disgusting behaviour. These people should be kicked out of the country, human rights or not! Anyway am glad am honest and not ROBBING people.
I’m a bit curious as to what you think citizenship laws ARE – “human rights” has very little to do with it, citizenship is based on descent or legal residency.
@Ashley – Regarding your opening sentence…immigrants come here ‘only’ to get benefits do they?
And here I was thinking I came to be with my partner – I guess I was seeking those benefits I’m not entitled to or receiving.
Radio shows like Neil prendreville’s show are spouting this crap for a while now, this is going to escalate into violence. It’s disgusting and there should be no place for this in society. Yes, we Irish have short memories…
the irish have traveled the world for hundreds of years , and this is how we treat our visitors. disgraceful ,
its not these people’s fault there is no jobs
Ben again you utter total irrelevant nonsense.
Do we expect our new citzens in Ireland to be loyal to our history, our heritage, our culture and identity-all for which we struggled and suffered over hundreds of years. Our population in numbers is nothing in comparison to the countries from which the new immigrants come. It makes me very very very sad if being worried for the future of my heritage makes me racist.
As The Rubber Bandits put it on their Twitter feed this week:
“@Rubberbandits: People i know who accuse foreigners of “taking all the jobs” are the same ones who can’t emigrate because they were caught selling hash.”
Thousands of Irish went to Australia on the promise of free land, what do you think the aboriginal people thought about that?
What a stupid bloody comparison Christy.
Weak argument.
Truth stings, eh Tom?
What’s your point Petr, do you have one?
Your communist, nonsensical diatribe is becoming boring, You still haven’t realised that the Communist ideal of a one world utopia is a redundant and failed idea.
You’re truly pitiful.
I was actually wondering what your point was.
Petr, it is clear you are a pleb. Discussion over commy boy.
Tom, Is that the best you can do? Insult somebody rather than be articulate enough to get your point across?
I don’t waste considered responses on people who are obvious trolls, hence my direct response to Petr. I made an exception for you this time.
Well, obviously I’m very flattered to have obtained to the attention of a very great and humble man such as your good self. What an awesome mind!
Because of our history and still remember the anti Irish slogans in Britain of no dogs or Irish need apply, we should be the last people in the world to attack immigrants, when we ourselves had to emmigrate by the millions to find work and a better life,its just sad coming from a nation that had known such raciasm for centuries, and to whom other countries looked up to.
Richard that is an idiotic and illogical justification for mass immigration into Ireland.
My comment is not about immigration,into Ireland,read it as anti -racism.
There’s never justification for singling out individuals or family’s in this manner regardless of your view.
There’s no doubt there are immigrants coming into Ireland with the sole intention of taking advantage of our benefit system and some for employment. But this sort of vandalism is never justifiable, even if it is a symptom of a larger problem.
In a time when the country is on it’s knees and Irish people suffering massive cuts in living standards and high unemployment we have to ask ourselves whether continued immigration of thousands of low skilled immigrants is sustainable. It puts massive pressure on our already overwhelmed infrastructure and social services.
We need to address this problem with proper immigration control and fast before the whole system collapses and the lunatics and fanatics get a foot hold with hateful ideology.
When I applyed for job and got interview, there were no irish citizens who wanted take work. So? It means I took someone job? And what about doctors in this country- half of them are Indians-so why Irish people doesn’t want study and take work places?
Inga, you can not make the assumption that just because there were not any Irish people at the interview that this means no Irish person applied.
It is very likely that the employer chose not to interview Irish people because he/she seen immigrants as an easy target for exploitation.
What proof do you have that half of the doctors in Ireland are Indian?
There are hundreds of Irish people graduating from medical school in Ireland but most saldy have to leave Ireland because the working considerations here are terrible for them with little prospect of career advancement. That doesn’t stop the Indian doctors though, does it…I wonder why?
I had a baby here, in Ireland, and in Holles street maternity hospital almost all nurses were from Philippines, India. And in Crumlin hospital the same. And doctors the same.
“your”? That actually reminded me of protesters during queen visit wearing english jerseys…
My experience of immigrants from Europe has been a positive one, with those from Africa it has been mixed and with those from most of the Middle East it has been totally negative. Does that make me a racist? I think that Japanese ,Chinese and most Indians are the most wonderful of people to work and mix with, does that make me a racist ?
No, it makes you a bit of a caricature though, since your comment amounts to:
The Chinese: a great bunch of lads.
Why not take each person as you find them instead of generalising (positively or negatively) a few experiences and encounters to millions of people.
I wrote “I think that Japanese ,Chinese and most Indians are the most wonderful of people to work and mix with, does that make me a racist ?”
Note the words ‘work and mix’ also note that I mentioned Japanese and Indians. Not to mention the other people I met and worked with over my many years abroad.
Because Petr, people from different cultural backgrounds ie. Chinese people tend to share similar character traits to their cultural brethren in China.
Of course people have individual differences but there is no denying some cultures are incompatible with western society.
Sorry but I do deny that. I also deny that there is any such thing as ‘Western society’. It’s a construct. You might wish to start thinking for yourself some day.
Petr, you are entitled to your opinion but you couldn’t be more wrong.
Only a fool or a communist trying to push an agenda would claim there is not a common cultural thread running through western society.
Uncle Mort, no it doesn’t make you a racist to acknowledge that some cultures are more adaptable than others to a new context, and some assimilate better than others. It would be racist to treat them differently because of it, though. In any case, even among cultures with a history of low levels of integration, there are those who break the mould, so it’s unfair to them to generalise.
Why, who are you to say he is wrong? Are you some kind of superior being? Should we all bow down to your vast array of knowledge? Or, are you a self righteous prat?
That was for Tom Rooney btw, sorry for misunderstandings
I recently had myself genotyped. It’s now cheap and accessible. From my genetic data I can trace my ancestors movement from Africa to the near east into Russia across Europe into Norway across to the U.K. and into Ireland. If the people who wrote these idiot scrawles on some family’s home did the same they might see that we are all cut from the same cloth. People move from country to country to survive and make a better life for themselves and their children. No-one, especially not small minded xenophobic scrotes, has the right to impede this need to find a better life.
@Brian you left out the all important bit. Work for a better life.
So when are you going back to where you came from Brian?
this IS a racist country after all
Sonia, a tiny minority of racists does not a racist country make.
Please think before making absurd claims.
Tom, have you actually read the comments here? It is not a tiny minority, unfortunately
Comments on The journal, does not represent the people of Ireland’s opinions on anything.
Furthermore, I have seen very little racism on this thread at all so your point is void.
i do not need to think Tom. It happens to me and my family everyday of the week. We were sent here to work, we don’t live off any benefits from this country. I tell you, when my husbands term is up, we will leave here and never return. You have no idea what we’re going thru everyday, calling my kids ‘paki’ when we are from the southern hemisphere and nothing to do with it. We get abuse from one extreme to the other. People driving 131 licensed plate vehicles to irish kids on the road. We know they’re irish as we have no idea what ‘english’ they’re speaking. Shame on you, maybe you better think before you open your mouth!
Israel is much more “racist” – why don’t you criticize Jews?
Because we don’t live in Israel! And why criticize anyone?? Your ignorance is unbelievable!
DUH!
we all heard of people flying to ireland to claim dole and child alouance every month and signing on after boom ended. Haveing a friend pick up dole that doesent need id because of our laws are weak . not every immigrant does this . irish goverment laws need to be changed to stop this . Plus eu laws have to be changed . IRish people forget we are the imagrantes now in many countrys like oz newzealand canada and other countrys around the world we dont recieve dole in oz newzealand canada . EU laws are too weak
Ronan, if I may ask, when did you come to the conclusion that immigrant fly over to Ireland to collect their dole and then fly back home?
I am an immigrant myself. After about five years of working full-time with a small travel agency, we got into a bit of trouble and were forced to ‘switch’ to part-time arrangements. While my Irish colleagues enjoyed the benefit of having their dole cheques delivered to their door (by post), I was forced to go and submit my weekly dockets to local social welfare office and then go and collect my money at my local post office every week. Luckily for all of us, we got back to full time after only three months…
On the note of abusing the social welfare system (not related to your comment): when my housemate got seriously ill so she couldn’t work for six weeks, she wasn’t given a single euro from anyone because she was working in Ireland for less than two years at that time.
At least these racists aren’t the feared ‘grammar Nazis’.
Bart Ahern and his gang are responsible.
They (the immigrants)came here when Ireland appeared to be an economic wonderland,a veritable Valhalla where they would prosper and live happily ever after.
Many of them were unskilled and so Social Welfare loaned them money to buy taxis etc. so as to get them off welfare.
Now there is no living left in taxis-particularly for full time drivers, and these families must feel abandoned and disenchanted.
As for the half a billion Euros which official figures confirm is repatriated to Nigeria every year-God knows what’s going on there. Drugs,? prostitution?
They cannot be working for a normal wage and sending this kind of money to their homeland.
Half a billion a year?! Where do you come up with this tripe
Fair enough, since you’re so opposed to repatriations – I’m sure you absolutely oppose Irish people forced to work abroad sending money home to to their families.
Or you’re a hypocrite. One or the other.
All Irish people who work illegally abroad should face the full force of justice in those countries.
What’s your point?
No doubt its the same few muppets responsible.. id much sooner them to leave than the immigrants..
…And the ruling classes can sleep soundly in their beds… safe in the knowledge that the old tactic of “Divide and Conquor” will never let them down! Not in Ireland anyway!
The irony of Irish people berating immigrants never fails to amuse me.
Some people don’t seem to realise how unseemly it is to use an article about racist graffiti to have a go at immigrants.
Things like this really piss me off!! As an Irish immigrant living in the UK there have been many comments over the past two weeks over here following the tragic murder of Lee Rigby. Most of which was ‘let’s get all immigrants out’ ‘they come steal our jobs/ sponge off the system/ increase crime rates’ etc.
When I confronted people over it stating that that would include me. Most responded that I was white so i was ok!!! Raise the issue that their problem is with colour or religion and people suddenly shut up as they don’t consider themselves to be racist!
Ironically most of the people with these views have never worked a day in their lives and have criminal records. I’m sure (again having seen some comments on fb from Irish friends) it is the same case in Ireland! Needless to say they been removed from my friends list.
Danielle your colour has feck all to do with it.
Further more by what law of logic does your reasoning that just because you are an immigrant justify that Ireland should allow every unskilled migrant from across the globe into Ireland?
It is idiotic in the extreme. I have worked all my adult life, I have served in my country’s defence force, I have never been convicted of any crime and I am well educated, Yet I believe uncontrolled immigration has been shown to have mostly negative effects on society.
Multiculturalism is a proven failure.
The article is not about controlled immigration. I am not saying that putting some controls would be a good or bad thing.
The article is about racism and discrimination against immigrants … Something which I have has to face many times. I am stating that many of the people that I personally know who have issues with race and immigration are unemployed. That is not to say that that it is only people or all people with this background who feel that way.
Glad you are well educated and working. In my daughters class in school there was only 2 Irish mums working. The others lived on benefits. Another case was that teenage girl became pregnant ( 16 yo) and asked if she is coming back to school said that she will have another 3-4 kids, will get social house and will stay on benefits, so she don’t need any school. You have to know, that emigrants are paying taxes….
Sick and sad. There’s no justification for this
Excuse me but I thought all white people were the same race! I get angrier by the day at the shite I see happening in my country!
Hopefully these people responsible for intimidating a family in their own home will be caught. It must be horrible to have to explain to your (possibly Irish) children that these people are picking on them because of where their parents are from. I am ashamed to see this in Dublin. I have no time for anyone who defends it.
I am hugely concerned about this hate graffiti, the bus top in front of the crumlin shopping centre across the road from my constituency office is been targeted with racist stickers. Myself, cllr pat Dunne and Brian Stafford have been continuously taking them off but they keep reappearing. We have contacted Dublin bus about the issue and fair play they did respond quickly and effectively. We will catch these people doing this disgusting targeting of our fellow human beings. Joan Collins
It is a universal phenomenon. When an economy is hurting the last immigrant group and the established natives pounce on the people on the lowest rung to blame them for all ills. They never seem to have the organisational ability to lobby government for justice OR point to serious injustices where Corporations are favoured; or government is top heavy with useless levels of bureaucracy or pay inflated salaries to themselves. It may not bring about change but it could deflect hateful words, ethnic or religious slurs from new immigrants and people working two jobs to survive.
Anyone opposing Immigration into Ireland is a “Racist”. This is nothing new. We have had the same smear word used here in Britain for decades, to smear anyone who has any legitimate concerns over Immigration. Reading these Pro immigration comments makes me smile wryly. Iv read the same nonsense used over here for decades too to justify the third World invasion and colonisation of Britain. Now its like Groundhog day seeing the same garbage spouted In Ireland. Im actually very sad to see Ireland going down the same road. Immigration has been a disaster in my Country. Where does one start with the negative aspects of it? The mass grooming of White Girls by Asian Muslim gangs mybe? Or the Massive Drug problem Britain. (mostly Foreigners) The No go areas for White people in many cities. The feuds and violence between different competing ethnic groups? The gun fights between Black gangs in many cities? The reduction in wages for we the indigenous who have to compete with imported Cheep labour? I could go on all night? Now Ireland is being “Enriched” too in a never ending stream of Third World immigration. Your great country, people and unique Culture will decline. One day even disappear? Well Ireland will pay a terrible price for this one day? It will make the so called “Troubles” you experienced in your fight for Freedom from British rule, pale into insignificance. GOD BLESS IRELAND. Keith Mc Farlane..
Why are subhumans permitted to enter Ireland in the first place? The races are not “the same” or “equal” – we evolved differently and should remain separate.
Ok, lets let the cat out of the bag………….
http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html
Hey that looks like a totally unbiased study!
might as well measure the shape of people’s skulls, hey?
… but a lot more scientific than the ignorant views spewed by the knuckle dragger’s here
again with the knuckledragging. If opinions had a basis in biology nobody could be judged for them could they? 19th century anthropology has a lot to answer for!
A lot of social ‘scientists’ nowadays have a lot in common with them, since their conclusions usually reinforce the prejudices they started out with …
why dont they go back to where they come from .its about time the irish start being racist for their own people .eh sorry stand up for their own people. our children are deliberately being deported daily while these foriegn nationals just stroll in here. Its high time we left this monster eu
And you are suprised at this …..why????
It’s a recession.
Look what happened on Europe in previous recessions.
The ‘graffiti’ in relation to the immigration posters is spot on. The department of foreign affairs offers zero assitance to Irish citizens looking to repatriate, regardless of the emergency of their circumstances. They just dont want to know. I know this from personal experience of trying to help a family member in dire straits abroad. Why the hell should any resources be devoted to helping non citizens ‘re-unite’?
I support the graffiti artists. ENOUGH forced “multiculturalism”.
I say leave this country to the fecking immigrants and the old anyway. If the government want to riin it on foreign idiots who can’t look after it then let them destroy more than they already have while we feck off and make a proper living in a proper country
So father i hear your a racist now!!!
Ah you beat me to that!
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