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'Our culture blames victims as young as 12': New report on sexual violence in Ireland launched

At the launch of its annual report, the RCNI spoke about consent, abortion and how we judge teenage victims.

RAPE CRISIS NETWORK Ireland (RCNI) launched its annual report for 2015 today.

Across 11 Rape Crisis Centres nationwide, over 13,000 calls were placed to access their services in 2015.

In these centres, 1,384 people accessed counselling and support last year.

Some of the landmark figures from the report include:

  • 65% of survivors using Rape Crisis Centre services had not previously reported to any formal authority, ie gardaí, doctors etc.
  • 85% of perpetrators were known to their victims.
  • Only 1% of children were sexually abused by a stranger.
  • 24% of those who became pregnant following rape accessed abortion services.
  • Almost one in five (17%) reported multiple incidences of sexual violence against them.
  • Around 88% of survivors who made contact with the Rape Crisis Centre were female.

Speaking at the launch of the report this morning, executive director of the RCNI Clíona Saidléar detailed how the figures were central to providing comprehensive and detailed information on sexual violence in Ireland, especially cases that don’t get reported to authorities such as the gardaí.

She said: “The figure of 65% who don’t previously report it and come to rape crisis centres – they have no other voice bar this data.”

The fact that the vast majority (85%) know the perpetrator could go some way to explaining why so many of these crimes don’t get reported, said Saidléar.

She added that making that journey from reporting the crime all the way through to a court case easier for victims was essential to make sure that more of these crimes do not go unreported. Cooperation between agencies such as the Rape Crisis Centre, gardaí and Tusla could be improved, however, she said.

Cuts to the network’s funding, however, mean that their once-heralded gold standard of reporting on sexual violence in Ireland is under threat, according to Saidléar.

The RCNI has received no funding from the Child and Family Agency Tusla in two years and, along with a cumulative 70% reduction in their funding, this is said to have hit their ability to support the sector with policy and guidance.

“This is the system that the Irish government is let falling through the cracks,” she said.

Consent

The issue of consent is one that is vitally important in Ireland, according to Saidléar. She says that the government must, as a priority, include provision for consent Criminal Justice (Sexual Offences) Bill 2015, which is currently going through the Dáil.

She said:

Everything around sexual violence hinges on consent. It makes no sense not to have a definition of it in our law when it is so pivotal. I would say it’s so critical that we must define it in law.

According to Saidléar, a culture of victims playing down sexual violence and not acknowledging it is no longer a norm. “That culture of “just get on with it”, “just be quiet” and “don’t name it” has really been challenged,” she said.

In terms of men reporting sexual violence, around 12% of the overall number, Saidléar said that common assumptions about men not reporting such incidents may not be true.

19/12/2016. Rape Crisis Network Ireland Report. Ra Clíona Saidléar at the launch today. RollingNews.ie RollingNews.ie

She said: “There tends to be a phrase thrown out almost as a truism that men find it harder to report sexual violence. I’m not sure that holds up.

“We know women deny and minimise… Men tend not to do that. They tend to know when they’ve experience sexual violence and can name it [...] We obviously have a lot more to do for both genders in this area.”

Teenagers

In terms of how the figures are changing year-on-year, the RCNI are particularly concerned about teenagers and how sexual violence affects them.

Saidléar explained: “They are not served by our child protection regime. The way that services respond is really designed for under-13s… In some ways teenagers are judged as adults, but they are still children.

Under the law, they have no capacity to consent. Often in society, we are asking “how did they behave?” or “what did they do”. All those victim blaming questions – we tend to start asking those of teenagers at a very young age. So from the age of 12,13 and 14 up, we start to ask girls what they did “to ask for it”.

“So I would say the conversation about consent is critical for those children, even though under the law they have no capacity to consent.”

Abortion

It was seen that almost one in four victims who became pregnant following a rape accessed an abortion.

In a recent submission to the Citizens Assembly on the Eighth Amendment to the Constitution, the RCNI expressed the view that including allowing abortion in cases of rape would be “unworkable” if the amendment was to be repealed.

Saidléar said: “The conclusion we came to was that a ‘rape clause’ is not feasible. In terms of the trauma that a survivor has experienced, they would have to be then put through a process where they are judged, assessed and maybe fail.

It must be under health grounds. A survivor shouldn’t have to prove or be judged.

A full copy of their 2015 report can be found here.

Read: Calls for legislation on definition of consent following Supreme Court ruling in rape case

Read: Campaigners say data collection on domestic violence in Ireland at ‘crisis point’

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    Jun 1st 2018, 12:23 PM

    People aren’t going to stop taking them, on-site testing facilities would be a forward thinking solution.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 1:28 PM

    @Gav Brosnan: natural selection would be another. Just because society won’t make it legal doesn’t absolve you of responsibility. Ingest unknown substances!! More fool you.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 1:39 PM

    @SFLounyTouny: Gav is advocating a solution to the unknown substances problem.

    Would you actually not support safety initiatives for people to test pills but you’d rather say I told you so to the 0.0001% of people who ever have an issue with them?

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    Jun 1st 2018, 1:45 PM

    @SFLounyTouny: yeah I agree, its not smart to take stuff you that you don’t know the contents and source of but people will still do it, a lot of people. Just because its stupid doesn’t mean it wont happen. The risks can always be lessened.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 2:08 PM

    @Gav Brosnan: the risk can be lessened!! The risk can be eliminated completely..dont take them.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 3:22 PM

    @SFLounyTouny: oh that’s that sorted so. Hope everyone caught that.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 3:52 PM

    @SFLounyTouny: you clearly don’t live in the real world.

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    Jun 2nd 2018, 1:38 AM

    @Gav Brosnan: yes I do…take unknown substances and risk death..don’t take unknown substance and no risk of death..quite simple.

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    Jun 2nd 2018, 2:43 AM

    @sftonylouny
    Get in your car risk death, don’t get in your car don’t risk death.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 1:04 PM

    I have to say this is absolutely sound advice from the HSE and it’s good to see a sensible approach taken for once. Obviously the clear message is don’t take drugs but the advice given is 100% correct and relevant. It could save a life

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    Jun 1st 2018, 1:14 PM

    @Coco86: a pill testing station would also help

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    Jun 1st 2018, 1:17 PM

    @John Longmore: Agreed. Might actually turn people off if you new exactly what was in it.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 1:20 PM

    @John Longmore: i believe the legal situation wouldn’t allow them to be handed back, so fairly pointless at the minute

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    Jun 1st 2018, 1:51 PM

    @Coco86: Agreed, it’s good to see them coming around to the type of practical advice that club magazines provided in the 90s. It’s a lonnnnng time since I touched anything but good advice still applies.

    2 weeks between sessions seems a little unrealistic for most heads though. And its better to test the batch before, or talk to your friends, as you’re unlikely to show discipline at the start of a session when you’re hyped up. Most people wouldn’t knowingly bring speckled pills to a festival as a sizeable number of folks don’t like tripping or are not cut out for it in large crowds of people they don’t know.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 1:59 PM

    @Julian Friesel: Just give one keep the rest :)

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    Jun 1st 2018, 2:05 PM

    @Rónán O’Suilleabháin: The thoughts of e’s make me gag now man absolutely putrid rotten yokes! But back in the day I did my fair share and looking back now I’m lucky to have made it through those mad teenage early 20′s years! But we all know the risks albeit understand them that bit better as you get older. Hopefully everyone enjoys this year’s festivals and gets home safe,

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    Jun 1st 2018, 12:20 PM

    Don’t take them is also good advice.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 12:30 PM

    @Jalbeardzi, Yup and if you dont, just take a little bit seen how you feel in an hour before you escalate

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    Jun 1st 2018, 11:44 PM

    @Clever Jake: because it is legal, if it was illegal it wouldn’t measure in the list of most deadly drugs.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 12:30 PM

    Let’s hope the yes side come out in as much force on this issue, “women take abortion pills let’s make it safe for them” people take recreational drugs let’s make it safe for them. Legalise and regulate from manufacture to consumer

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    Jun 1st 2018, 4:50 PM

    @Colm Kiernan: we need the Citizens Assembly to get involved here. Where’s Noone when we need her? Probably still hungover from the rave at the castle. #Trustdrugdealers

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    Jun 1st 2018, 12:20 PM

    Perhaps enforcing drug laws would be a start

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    Jun 1st 2018, 1:10 PM

    @Steve1234: They clearly don’t work

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    Jun 1st 2018, 2:10 PM

    @Coco86: They’re not enforced. People used to drink and drive regularly until it was treated seriously and now a lot less people do it as there is more chance of being caught. If the same approach was taken to drugs it would have the same results

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    Jun 1st 2018, 2:30 PM

    @Steve1234: Evidence from every country that has tried this shows it doesn’t work. All you end up with is prisons filled with decent people for minor drug offences.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 3:52 PM

    @Steve1234: Of course they are enforced, have you ever witnessed anybody taking lines off the bar having a pint? No, because it’s illegal people will use the toilets instead! If anything I would say they are enforced too much and you must admit the so called war on drugs is being catastrophically lost. I agree with you on your drink driving comparison but this is not the right approach here IMO. Why criminalise the person with 20 euro worth of MDMA in their pocket when the real problem is at the top of the chain making millions? There will always be a demand for drugs so provide safe substances and make those on top irrelevant

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    Jun 1st 2018, 3:52 PM

    Traditional party drugs like MDMA are quite safe substances, certainly no more dangerous than alcohol and likely safer. Where the danger arises is with adulterated substances, toxic derivatives or substances passed off as something they’re not. This is a result of prohibition and the black market drug trade. If alcohol were illegal, you would see deaths due to methanol poisoning from home brews as is common now in many Islamic countries where alcohol is prohibited. The substances we know to be relatively safe from clinical studies (MDMA, LSD, psilocybin, cannabis etc.) should be regulated and allowed to be openly sold as alcohol is. Dangerous derivatives and the like should still be banned.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 12:23 PM

    Lesson number 1. Know you’re dealer.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 12:29 PM

    @Dj: lesson number 2 “you’re” means “you are”

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    Jun 1st 2018, 12:54 PM

    @Dj: Absolutely I am… You either do it, or you lie and say you don’t do it

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    Jun 1st 2018, 1:07 PM

    @Dj: Question is does your dealer know their dealer and so on. The MDMA or pills the user consumes has passed through so many hands! The best thing is to listen to the advice given above and enjoy yourself, and the buzz!

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    Jun 1st 2018, 1:34 PM

    @Coco86: Well, if you’ve been buying off a dealer for a period of time and it’s good stuff then I don’t see the need to buy some crap off some shifty looking bloke in the public toilets. Just come prepared is all.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 1:58 PM

    @Dj: That’s true I’d sooner go without than risk some filthy crap from a randomer, you seem to think likewise :)
    Unfortunately though I would think a lot of people particularly kids wouldn’t see it that way.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 2:21 PM

    @Dj: Lesson No. 47 – Learn to count

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    Jun 1st 2018, 12:46 PM

    @Dj (know your dealer) As if that makes any difference he doesn’t give a toss about you .

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    Jun 1st 2018, 6:00 PM

    Prohibition KILLS

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    Jun 1st 2018, 1:10 PM

    At the same time as an online poll here regarding possession of small amounts of illegal substances.

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    Jun 1st 2018, 3:47 PM

    “Chewing gum can help jaw cramps” – yeah, will help GIVE you jaw cramps! And wreck your stomach. Clearly never did a pill in his life!

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