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Dr Chris Luke What exactly happens to your body when you take cocaine?

The retired medical consultant looks at the murky history of the white powder and pulls no punches on what exactly it does to the body.

LAST UPDATE | 8 Oct 2023

THE THREE MOST dangerous ‘white powders’ in human history are probably sugar, salt and cocaine hydrochloride, the bitter white crystal that European chemists finally managed to extract – on an industrial level in the 1860s – from the leaf of the South American shrub, Erythroxylum Coca.

It’s useful to group these man-made products together because all have been harnessed for centuries for their remarkable properties and staggering economic value. Lamentably, all have driven the enslavement of vanquished peoples, toiling in salt and silver mines, sugar plantations or coca fields.

And, for years, the customers for the first two products at least, lured into lifelong habits of consumption by clever admen, concealment in cheap and tasty foodstuffs, or celebrity endorsement, have poured into our GP surgeries and hospitals, with their raised blood pressure, blocked arteries, and galloping diabesity. 

Cocaine

As for the ‘newest’ white powder, cocaine, reports that the Irish are now among its biggest consumers in Europe suggest that we’re way beyond the historical inflection point, where cocaine joined sugar and salt as a permanent determinant of public health in Ireland (and, of course, crime).

But I’m not convinced that telling people ‘cocaine is bad’ for them will reduce its use. I’ve seen the effects of the drug for years, close up in emergency departments, in the press, and on screen and the only feature of the ‘public debate’ about cocaine in Ireland that ‘cuts through’ is the ‘hilarious’ picture of a guy snorting white surf on a beach that’s posted on social media every time a cocaine seizure occurs or someone famous gets ‘busted’.

That jaded meme replaced an equally cliched quip that ‘cocaine is God’s way of saying you’re making too much money’.  

In truth, the best way to ‘educate’ people about the reality of cocaine use may well be to get them to read the obituaries of some of their favourite celebrities. In the meantime, I suggest we prepare for the coming wave of cocaine casualties. Failure to prepare means that people are ‘shocked’ when they see (or hear about or suspect) the often-surprising side effects of cocaine.

Actual preparation (i.e., genuine learning) would mean that we could at least more readily recognise the sometimes insidious but occasionally explosive consequences of cocaine consumption. And, for reasons I’ll explain, a cocaine crisis may warrant almost instant intervention, if it is not to become a calamity.

coca-leaves-drying-during-cocaine-production-yungas-bolivia-south-america Coca leaves drying during cocaine production, Yungas, Bolivia, South America. Alamy Stock Photo Alamy Stock Photo

Cocaine is a fascinating stimulant. Chewing the leaf of the coca bush found on the barren slopes of the Andes is an ancient practice that seems to have enabled half-starving indigenous peoples to build temples high up in the sky: the slowly liberated cocaine suppresses the appetite, provides a ‘shot of energy’, eliminates feelings of tiredness, cold or discomfort.

Tragically, this remarkable ability to enhance ‘endurance’ was exploited by the Conquistadores, who found that the Inca people could be deliberately half-starved and still work astonishingly hard, digging out the treasure for which the Spaniards yearned.

Pharmacologically, the benefits of the coca leaf are obvious in areas where there is little food or oxygen. However, the hazards are massively multiplied when the key bioactive ingredient is isolated and turned into easily snorted, swallowed, or injected cocaine hydrochloride powder (not to mention the notorious ‘freebase’ derivative, crack, which is smoked).

The reason why we should expect a surge of cocaine-related medical presentations in the coming years in Ireland is because 303 tonnes of exceptionally pure cocaine were seized by EU states in 2021, and two tonnes were seized just last month in Irish coastal waters.

Given that only 10% of smuggled drugs are intercepted, this gives us a sense of the amount of cocaine currently being consumed in this country.

Another harbinger of the future came from the 2022 Drug Use in Higher Education Institutions (DUHEI) survey of 11,500 students in Ireland, which found that a fifth of students reported using drugs in the previous month, and cocaine had replaced ecstasy (MDMA) to become their second most popular drug.

Effects of cocaine

In short, then, we can anticipate a pretty relentless stream of ‘cocaine cases’ in our GP surgeries, outpatient clinics and hospitals, as well as our garda stations and mortuaries (at least until our next economic recession, when the ready availability of cocaine will find fewer customers with the ready cash).

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But, for now, I suggest that we all keep an eye out for the following common cocaine use patterns in our own ‘parish’.  

Delight, unbounded: After the initial anxiety that first-time users experience when they snort cocaine powder up their nostril, there often follows – within just five minutes or so – a sense of being hugely energised, a surge in self-esteem and confidence, and a gradual onset of extreme pleasure or euphoria. A rictus grin, loud and rapid speech, and (“What’s he on?!”) restlessness may be obvious to those at the same dinner party or nightclub table. The effect of one snorted ‘line’ may last for up to 30 minutes.

Distress, seriously: The first unpleasant sensation that cocaine users experience is often a growing sense of paranoia (“Why is that guy over there staring at me?”), often amplified by the rapid heart rate they feel through their chest wall.

Paranoia can turn to panic, especially if the user develops symptoms that suggest one of the many conditions that cocaine can cause, like chest pain, breathlessness, sweating, headache and a weird feeling that their skin is crawling with insects. And they will often have good reason to be distressed, because cocaine is a major cause of unexpected blood pressure crises, heart attacks, lung collapse, convulsions and stroke, even in the ‘novice’.

Dependence, galloping: Cocaine is notoriously addictive (especially the much less common ‘freebase’ smoked form, ‘crack’), so up to 20% of repeat-users are said to develop a physical and mental dependence on the drug and a compulsive pattern of use.

verylargeuncutrockofcrackcocaine Large uncut rock of crack cocaine. Shutterstock / Kevin L Chesson Shutterstock / Kevin L Chesson / Kevin L Chesson

In short, dependence or addiction means that horrible withdrawal symptoms occur when the individual stops using the drug. These range from mood swings and irritability, intense cravings for the drug, nightmares and feelings of absolute exhaustion (the ‘crash’) to vomiting, convulsions and irresistible thoughts of suicide.

Damage, everywhere: Repeated use of cocaine causes damage to small blood vessels, which in turn ‘asphyxiates’ the body’s tissues, including the nose cartilage, the heart muscle and coronary vessels, the lungs, the brain blood vessels, and other organs like the liver and kidneys. Injecting or smoking accelerates all such damage and also involves abscesses and communicable diseases.

The collapsed nose seen on some celebrities is the most grotesque, but it is the unseen damage to organs that poses the greatest risk in the long term.

And the damage can be unexpected: even though erectile dysfunction is a classic complication of too much cocaine, sexually transmitted disease is also a common consequence for the highly energised risk-taking cocaine consumer. Notwithstanding all that, the greatest harm is usually done to the user’s close relationships, which can be destroyed by lying, cheating, expenditure of huge amounts of shared income, and domestic or random violence.

Delirium, frightening: One of the most frightening complications of cocaine use is the way in which the chatty, witty and bubbly user can morph over a few minutes into a ‘raving lunatic’, sweating, shouting incoherently, and confusedly brushing aside all efforts to quieten or restrain them by their companions, security staff and paramedics.  ‘Cocaine agitation delirium’ is the name of this condition which can unpredictably affect any user after taking a tiny or a large amount of the drug. It is a dreaded presentation in any ambulance or emergency department, because of the shocking strength of the addled victim, the fact that it often occurs abruptly (at a party or in a police cell), it’s very difficult to treat and about 10% of victims will die.

outpatientdepartmentopdofahospitalwithemptychairsblurredbackground Chris Luke has extensive experience working in emergency medicine. Shutterstock / RUCHUDA BOONPLIEN Shutterstock / RUCHUDA BOONPLIEN / RUCHUDA BOONPLIEN

Death, shocking: There were over 130 deaths from cocaine in Ireland in 2020, a worrying three-fold increase in three years. It’s also possible that that number could be a slight underestimate, as toxicology is not always undertaken postmortem. Often too, the insidious damage to a heart, brain or blood vessel means that the sudden unexpected death of a cocaine user doesn’t require them to have taken any of the drug to trigger the sudden fatal haemorrhage, convulsion or cardiac arrest (although in most cases adding alcohol or nicotine to the cocaine will have greatly increased the risk of sudden death). And, medically, many such deaths occur between three and 30 minutes after the first ‘sign’ that the person is seriously ill, with delirium, chest pain, breathlessness, headache and convulsion. 

I don’t expect all this gloomy medical analysis to make a jot of difference to the users of our most fashionable white powder. But it just might mean that someone around a person having an adverse reaction to the drug will realise that they need to call an ambulance. Now. 
 
Dr Chris Luke is an author, columnist and former consultant in emergency medicine.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 9:25 AM

    Earth Shattering results, 81% say grab your coat Alan.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 11:37 AM

    And by what he is saying he won’t walk himself, he’s trying to wriggle his way out of this one.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 8:30 PM

    Sadly, you are being proven correct.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 9:20 AM

    It,s all fun and games now, but wait until the shat hits the fan later

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    Mar 26th 2014, 9:23 AM

    Hit the fan ?
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    Mar 26th 2014, 11:48 AM

    Manuel Shatter: I know nothing.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 10:20 AM

    Could the cabinet meeting not have been held at 6 in the morning in order to have A G there to brief them on such a serious issue ?

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    Mar 26th 2014, 12:23 PM

    Christ if Kenny had said. Yes I told Callinan that he had to cop on or leave and that the latest controversy made him hopping mad and he was disgusted etc etc.

    He wouldn’t be on the back foot here. He has no idea how to play this.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 12:37 PM

    Why was yellow belly Kenny not on prime Time or the news ? He is the leader after all (my arse)

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    Mar 26th 2014, 1:08 PM

    john g mcgrath

    Clearly it was not serious enough issue to have her attend the cabinet meeting. Says all that needs to be said. So much for an oath to uphold the constitution!

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    Mar 26th 2014, 4:04 PM

    In this country we have lawyers and liers both betray the very citizen in the area of truth, for the truth is not a part of the justice arrangement in this country . Rotten to the core is this arrangement

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    Mar 26th 2014, 10:20 PM

    FG lying about Wind Turbines scrapped too. Green Wichita still calling to local farmers in Meath, offering componsation. They admitting themselves . It’s just on hold for 3 months ? To shut up protesters and try so get a few votes. FF were bad but FG worse. big publicity stunt to get voters onside before elections.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 10:21 AM

    So there is the tinniest possibility that the pervious Government knew about the recordings as well, WOW! Well I never!!!!

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    Mar 26th 2014, 11:31 AM

    There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that.

    Dermot Ahern has not mentioned anything about this to date and Micheal Martin would surely have asked him for a briefing on that.
    Brian Lenihan has passed away so who knows, there was enough on his plate without investigating to see if such a serious thing was happening.

    This story broke first in 2006 in the Morris Tribunal but there was no reason to believe the Guard who mentioned it at the time, don’t think there was any back up so McDowell had no reason to act.

    We’ll see all the FG and Labour hacks trying to spread the blame on this one. It is their mess and they can deal with it.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 12:51 PM

    Seanie was Aherne and Martin’s hero, C J Haughey not Taoiseach when the phones were originally tapped back in the early eighties? He has form in these type of matters.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 12:54 PM

    The 80′s was a different time. The subversive threat made the Guards jumpy, in the challenging of that threat to all of us. Sean Doherty made a big mistake and once it was brought up that some people were bugged he resigned from the party and took responsibility for his mistakes.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 1:02 PM

    Seanie if only you had an actual clue. I’m afraid your one of those mouthy ogra FF types. As brainwashed as can be. Love having giggles at your moral outrage.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 1:07 PM

    Did you ever tell us how you got your scars?

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    I recall Dep Commissioner Ainsworth resigned when he gave a tape recorder to McSherry to tape a fellow minister Professor O’Donoghue. Even then…

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    Mar 26th 2014, 2:20 PM

    Seanie you sound like a stupid Shinner when you bring up this nonsense about the past is the past. You only talk about periods that you think suits your point. The past and present are periods that are embarrassing to FF and SF. Both have a lot to be utterly ashamed about.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 9:22 PM

    Pickart,
    Every time I see the word “shinmer”, I think of FG trolls. Are you unhappy that the people vote for Sinn Féin, amongst others?

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    Pickart,
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    Mar 26th 2014, 10:03 PM

    Apart from a couple of months in 1982 Good old Garrett Fitzgerald was in charge all the way from 81 to 87.. Hardly enough time to get his shit together to organise recording of Garda conversations.. If it was Dail phones I would say yes it was him..

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    Jumpy ?????……you clown.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 1:35 AM

    You Soldier of destiny troll you…

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    Oh ..Identify yourself …you Soldier of destiny troll…

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    Mar 26th 2014, 10:29 AM

    “No smugness,” they said.
    If he doesn’t?
    “Then he’s gone,” they added.

    I really hope they mean it , he sud really of gone after leaking Mick Wallaces private info on RTE …Since then he has been tied to the commissioner.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 11:29 AM

    1. Of a numbers of things needs to happen
    Shatter resign
    Kenny(when he finds his own Spine) sack him
    Or LAbour grow a pair and pull out of this Gov ( Fg are a scandal and corrupt ridden party , they’d fitted in well in Colombia during the 80′s).
    Although labour, YOUR SILENCE IS CONSENT.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 11:02 AM

    warning…whitewash in progress

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    Mar 26th 2014, 8:25 PM

    As the Minister said to the Commissioner…

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    Ireland=ballygobackwards

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    Mar 26th 2014, 9:33 AM

    That is the intellect of Our Government “we are were we are”

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    Mar 26th 2014, 10:19 AM

    Shatter/ Callinan and all are ultimately just scapegoats. Real problem is the civil servants in Department of Justice. Nobody is focussing on them and that needs to be done.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 10:37 AM

    Couldn’t agree more, they are of course the common denominator of successive governments. They run the country really, politicians just TRY to set the policy.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 12:46 PM

    Ahippo

    No the minister is the responsible state office holder. He is fully accountable. He has lied and has been found out.

    Our Attorney-General like so many has let the citizens down again. Just look at who have been AGs’.

    Justice officials are frightened of Shatter and any politician with power. They are not nice people.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 9:24 AM

    Why is it called Garda Gate? Water gate happened many moons ago!! So when something of public interest comes up journalist put a “Gate” on the end of it to sound important. ie nurse gate or doctor gate.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 9:59 AM

    Ireland are gate lovers. Have you a problem with that mister???

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    Mar 26th 2014, 10:01 AM

    You’ll start gate gate if yer not careful

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    Mar 26th 2014, 10:15 AM

    Shattergate, Endagate, Fine Gaelgate, Spoofgate, And back to workgate.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 10:42 AM

    Just saying why put a gate on the end of everything. That’s an American term that was used at the water gate scandal. But I I’m not going to get hung about it.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 1:28 PM

    Lou cos it sells papers makes a story sexy and attracts attention. Its a term used to talk about government scandals.

    But it does annoy me too.

    #annoyedgate

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    Mar 26th 2014, 5:18 PM

    Louise- where does Gateway for here?

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    Mar 26th 2014, 12:51 PM

    What an absolute farce politics in Ireland boil down to. It’s ridiculous

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    Mar 26th 2014, 1:09 PM

    This is policing, not politics.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 1:16 PM

    What a moronic comment ….. its the politics of justice that have led to all these scandals. Do we really need to start explaining the basics to people? I fear that you my friend are the type of person that feels neither shatter nor Callinan should be sacked over the on going scandals ?

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    Mar 26th 2014, 2:08 PM

    No Jonathan,
    To think that politics is the issue here, it completely overlooks the issue that the police force here is a politicised institution. An Garda Siochana have serious corruption issues and to blame it on politicians on this occasion is moronic.
    Our politicians now have the opportunity to provide us with legislation and regulations that will provide for a competent police force. The political face of this scandal is a mere sideshow. The fact that FG/Lab failed is obvious, and the people will show their appreciation in due course.
    But the issue is policing, not politics.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 2:10 PM

    Oh and Jonathan,
    Turn down the vitriol. It’s not wise to lash out at people with whom you might later agree.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 2:24 PM

    I blamed politics not politicians your confused….. The politics within garda are the start of there troubles. The office politics of the garda body itself is what I referred to.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 2:47 PM

    Paul – this issue is politics as well as policing when you have elected representatives covering up wrongdoing to save themselves, their party and their “friends”

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    Mar 26th 2014, 2:52 PM

    It’s also politics within garda … The statement ”2 garda out of 13000” spelt it out. Only 2 garda were willing to stand up and say how off things are. And what support did they receive? The country owes them !

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    Mar 26th 2014, 6:22 PM

    So it’s a policing issue then?

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    Mar 26th 2014, 8:29 PM

    This is about policing AND politics, the interface between policing and politics and how each undermines the other.

    We need a non political independent police or Garda authority and this should have been introduced many years ago.

    We reap what we sow.

    Disgusting is what senior Garda management is and even more disgusting are the senior Ministers.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 1:28 AM

    Oh oh…You made look a fool there Paul Roche…too many Red thumbs down..you out of the game my friend…..never mind …you are officially my nominee for “My Journal Arsehole of the week”…and I will fight for your election to that post…and if you don’t win that… I will fight for you in the “Le Journal Ballon d’Or” Tosspot of the week”… a much more coveted award…and believe me that would be some achievement…but you are well worthy of it and have my vote…..oh and well done…..you have my fulsome support in everything you do…

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    Mar 27th 2014, 6:49 AM

    I have no problem when people disagree, John Monahan, and I thank you for the efforts you are making to enhance my public profile. That shirt you are wearing is blue, is it not?

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    Mar 26th 2014, 10:05 AM

    @Michael o Keefe, well said we are where we are sums up the intellectual capacity or these f@ckwits

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    Mar 26th 2014, 5:45 PM

    Shatter epitomises the very culture that has destroyed the politics. Bully boy, egotistical and untouchable politicians that are so out of touch with the people (that have elected them) of this country.
    Ireland has gone through the worst 5 years in its history, many of our citizens are in Canada, USA or Australia in search of opportunities/work. Those who are still here are paying for the bank guarantee and struggling to pay bills or feed their families.
    The reality is that shatter is so arrogant and out of touch that he doesn’t care about the Irish people.
    Politicians should care, that’s why they are elected and they should not forget that.
    Enda Kenny should’ve sacked him weeks ago but that’s our fearless leader!

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    Mar 26th 2014, 11:25 AM

    Yeah lets punish him by giving him an early retirement from the dail with all the benefits and a pension. That’ll show him!

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    Mar 26th 2014, 12:13 PM

    Wow …. Callinan pushed he did not walk….M Martin

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    Mar 26th 2014, 7:02 PM

    How many people have lost their job over this entire debacle and yet Shatter steadfastly refuses to step down

    1) Garda Whitleblower … John Wilson (Forced to retire due to the bullying he got for raising the issue).
    2) Sgt McCabe, still in his job, but told he will never get a promotion
    3) Callinan … Took early retirement rather than doing the honorable thing and acknowledging his wrong-doing
    4) Indo journalist Gemma O’Doherty sacked for raising the corruption issue to Callinan
    5) Attorney General Maire Whelans job is currently on the line due to Shatters inability to read reports sent by her to his office
    6) Oliver Connolly sacked for telling the truth about Shatters personal vindictiveness to the Garda whistleblowers

    How many people can Shatter take down and scape-goat before he acknowledges either his total incompetence or his total corruption to the Irish people.

    He apologized to the Dail for mis-leading them, but he never actually apologized to any of his victims or the whistle-blowers. He said he ‘should apologize’ if there was offense taken, but no actual apology came out from his weasel mouth to them.

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    Mute Paul Roche
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    Mar 27th 2014, 8:03 AM

    Working in the Dept. of Justice must be a bit like working in a Bond villains HQ these days. One never knows when they will become surplus to requirements.

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    Mute galway2007
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    Mar 26th 2014, 5:03 PM

    I just hope everybody remember how FG tried to bully it way through this and how labour went to ground
    when it come to the local elections WIPE THEM OUT

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    Mute Colin Murphy
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    Mar 26th 2014, 12:25 PM

    Oh Pinocchio stop now when you have some chance!

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    Mar 26th 2014, 10:49 AM

    it’s all bullshit!! question everything!!

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    Mar 26th 2014, 10:58 AM

    What you mean by that ) :-) ?

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    Mute Paul Roche
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    Mar 26th 2014, 1:08 PM

    Probably just not on the phone…

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    Mute CMac59
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    Mar 26th 2014, 12:43 PM

    Government depts monitor tweets on social sites but Justice does not collect electronic reports from public bodies.
    Staff are employed in Justice to gather such report sand they are looked at lest something adverse is made against Justice or any other body.
    Pull the other one Shattered & Co.

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    Mute John Meade
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    Mar 26th 2014, 4:40 PM

    Shatter had to be more or less dragged kicking and screaming to this point. His apology is too little too late, he still needs to go but this is Ireland and that wont happen. Politicians don’t do resignation in Ireland with the exception of Nulty this week, i could count on one finger the amount who have fallen on their sword.

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    Mute Shane Collins
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    Mar 26th 2014, 5:34 PM

    He should resign. This apology is too little too late!!

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    Mar 26th 2014, 12:05 PM

    I’d love a Journal Mug !

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    Mar 26th 2014, 3:06 PM

    Some day….maybe :)

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    Mute John B. Reid
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    Mar 26th 2014, 5:56 PM

    A forced apology means nothing. It certainly doesn’t change the fact that the administration of justice in Ireland is seriously suffering with Mr Shatter at its head.

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    Mute Peter Richardson
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    Mar 26th 2014, 8:18 PM

    Did the Commissioner not record the phone calls from the Minister and vice versa?

    Incidentally, and on a serious note, it would be very naive to think that An Garda Siochana surveillance of the non criminal citizenry was and is confined to recording phone calls in and out of Garda stations

    Even Garda Sergeants can tell you non criminal related “intelligence” which would astound you.

    Keep a healthy distance from An Garda Siochana, tell them little, volunteer nothing and just respect the law.

    My late uncle said to me, give An Garda Siochana and the Clergy a wide berth. Treat them with civility but keep your counsel and information to yourself.

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    Mute Geralyn Early
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    Mar 26th 2014, 7:25 PM

    Shatter and that whole government need to go!!! Off with their heads!!!

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    Mar 26th 2014, 4:42 PM

    “the North side of Dublin is in many ways a state of mind” WTF is that fat idiot talking about. I am originally from Blackrock but moved many years ago to “de Nortside”. There is nothing wrong with it, apart from decades of infrastructural neglect. What is he suggesting?

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    Mute Alison Corcoran
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    Mar 26th 2014, 9:38 PM

    All I will say is corrupt corrupt corrupt … The whistle blowers should become Garda commissioners at least we all know they can be trusted well done
    Shame on you shatter be gone

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    Mute Denis Charlton
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    Mar 26th 2014, 1:41 PM

    Sound to me now like although practice of taping was to have stopped in November that it was somehow perhaps continued in some locations and that Callinan was aware of it. Why else would Enda take the action he did? Obviously AG thought it serious enough to go straight to him and bypass Shatter in case he also knew. Innocent until proven guilty perhaps but they keep referencing a high profile case (anglo perhaps). Any thoughts on this logic ?

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    Mute Enda Nolan
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    Mar 26th 2014, 2:00 PM

    Could be the case involving the two garda who were jailed for assault I know one guard called Waterford garda station at the time of the assault that call must have being recorded

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    Mar 26th 2014, 6:14 PM

    The lies, evasiveness and denials continue – even in the midst of this scandal, Shatter and Kenny are still relying on the tactics of misdirection and hollow public blather to deny the fact that they are personally waist-deep in many more such scandals – and are desperately hoping that the public can still be fooled into believing otherwise. Please see short video “Disgusting, Commissioner Callinan?” at http://www.integrityireland.ie

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    Mute Alan Chapman
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    Mar 26th 2014, 7:15 PM

    How sad would your life be if you read this Article from start to finish!

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    Mute Peter Richardson
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    Mar 26th 2014, 8:33 PM

    What about an Garda Siochana wrongful seizure of the two Roma children, the Results of the Morris and Barron Tribunals and the appalling illegality and stitching up of innocent people not just in Donegal?

    Look at the Ian Bailey situation.

    Look at the pursuit of Clare Daly and others.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 9:32 PM

    All I will say is corrupt corrupt corrupt … The whistle blowers should become Garda commissioners at least we all know they can be trusted well done
    Shame on you shatter !!!!!!

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    Mute John Monahan
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    Mar 26th 2014, 11:18 PM

    As Micheál Martin pointed out on both Newstalk and Morning Ireland, TheJournal.ie reported on GSOC’s 2013 report which criticised a Waterford station’s practice of recording all incoming and outgoing calls.
    The Ombudsman, at the time, noted that it was in breach of statutes governing such procedures.
    ” On consideration of the ruling of the court the Garda Commissioner may wish to re-evaluate his practice regarding the recording of such calls and the consents required if it is to be permissible to use such recordings in evidence,” it said.

    With regard to above comment from GSOC, does anyone note that this prosecution was actually taken by GSOC, and it was GSOC that argued, during the case, for the inclusion of the recordings of phone calls to the Garda Station in question to be admitted and used against the defendants. It was the Judge that ruled them inadmissible. Why did GSOC use the illegal recordings in their prosecution? And now in one leap are onto the moral high ground?

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    Mar 27th 2014, 8:08 AM

    Because they warned about the legality of the practice at the time, and the issue was picked up in discovery by the Ian Bailey legal team. The recordings may be illegal, but they exist. Possession of same may be construed as knowledge of their contents.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 8:34 AM

    Is it not illegal to punish whistleblowers? Has Shatter not therefore broken the law by both punishing them through vilifying them in the Dail and also allowing others to punish them through restricting their careers and hindering their ability to do their jobs? Time he did the “honourable” thing and retired.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 12:09 AM

    When he was running for election years ago, we use to get a tennis ball with his name on it. His slogan was Shatter on the ball. It seems to me he’s dropped the ball big time in this case. I’m sure he would say mass if he thought it might save his job.(Time to say goodbye Alan)

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    Mute Paul Roche
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    Mar 26th 2014, 7:33 PM

    The case that we dare not speak the name should be considered. We the taxpayer are funding a defence of something indefensible. Should we?

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    Mute Mary Griffin
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    Mar 26th 2014, 10:30 PM

    Of course it is too little too late. While he was off swanning around at our expense the whistleblowers were still tagged as ‘disgusting’ Hard for families.

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    Mar 26th 2014, 6:07 PM

    Confused why there’s an issue, if you knew a garda , he could help with your penalty points, phones calls were recorded, Companies everywhere do this for ‘training purposes’ of course the opposition is demanding he resign, they are the ‘opposition’. A lot of it seem blown completely out of proportion. As for ‘whistleblowers’ , they seem to be more like attention seekers.

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    Mute John Byrne
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    Mar 26th 2014, 7:23 PM

    Troll or idiot

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    Mute Michael Farrelly
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    Mar 26th 2014, 8:27 PM

    Both

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