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Dr Anthony O'Connor Things we could do to get more people off trolleys

They can be done and they must be done – we have to believe that, writes hospital consultant Dr Anthony O’Connor.

I’M NOT SETTING myself up as someone who has all the answers. In fact, although I like to think I’m fairly good at what I do in work, I can’t even untangle a set of Christmas lights in less than three hours, and I once needed stitches because I managed to slam the boot of my car on my own nose.

Cleverer people than me will be needed to solve this problem. As I see it, there are a number of things we could do that might get 50 or 60 people a night off trolleys and if we could do that we’d make a big impact on the problem.

1. More beds

Nothing works until this happens. If you had a 400-bed hotel and 40 customers waiting in the lobby every night, you might add a few bedrooms.

Our health service has never recovered from the bed cuts of the late 1980s when more than a million fewer souls lived in the State and life expectancy was 10 years less than it is now. The myth that we have enough acute beds in the system is the Lie Zero of our health debate, the Big Lie on which all other little lies are built.

2. More primary care

Enabling more health and social care, not just medical care to be delivered in the community, won’t fix the entire problem but it could make some impact.

Its main utility is in future proofing the system against anticipated future demographic changes, and supporting our general practitioners who have long been the backbone of medical care provision in our country and are creaking under strains of their own.

3. Changes in how we work

The usual mythmaking here is about getting senior clinicians to see patients on the ward more often, and cancelling elective work to do so.

In reality this makes little or no difference. To use another analogy, if you were running a restaurant and hadn’t enough tables to seat your customers, employing another four chefs in the kitchen isn’t going to achieve a whole lot. Nor will a roast joint cook any quicker for having a chef look at it more often.

Length of stay for medical admissions to hospital in Ireland are very short by European standards, yet because this truth is inconvenient, it’s one you will hear very infrequently by politicians and apparatchiks.

What would help would be a decisive shift towards properly cohorted care. If you come to hospital with liver failure you should go to a ward for liver patients, staffed by doctors and nurses with postgraduate training and experience in liver disease. If this happens you’ll receive better care and be out of hospital faster.

I could frequently have 30 patients under my care with a wide array of problems spread out across 11 or 12 wards. So I might spend an hour a day just walking between wards, being rather unproductive while I do so.

This should be a no-brainer, but it’s hard to implement radical changes like this when the hospital is always over-occupied.

A nurse in an Irish medical ward could easily and indeed routinely find himself or herself looking after a six-bedded cubicle with one patient with heart failure, another with liver failure, somebody with a postoperative drain, a patient with confusion and challenging behaviours, another with an eating disorder and another with advanced cancer.

That they do this for low pay, with little or no audible complaint, is something I find inspiring and is a testament to their seemingly endless commitment and flexibility. But the edges are fraying and nurses can’t be brought into the system fast enough to replace those leaving.

Cohorting wards properly allows them to focus and develop their own practices and careers rather than firefighting on the hoof, day after day, night after long night.

4. Changes in how healthy a set of lives we lead as a nation

1,500 beds a night in Irish hospitals are occupied by the consequences of alcohol abuse. 25% of injuries presenting to Irish emergency departments are alcohol-related. The health service spends €1.2bn per year on alcohol-related harm.

This is not sustainable. I don’t care if they drink more in France or England or wherever. This is our mess and we need to clean it up. That’s not to even mention drugs, obesity and tobacco.

5. Changes in how we use hospitals as a community

In his book, How we die now, Professor Seamus O’Mahony of Cork University Hospital wrote on foot of having had a patient admitted under his care due to his house being redecorated:

If we as a society treat acute hospitals like dustbins, we should not complain if these hospitals begin to look and feel like dustbins. The hospital did not ask for these problems – society was happy to hand them over.

While even discussing this will be controversial (and the problem itself should not be overstated) there is an onus on patients and their families to use the acute service in an equitable manner.

Anyone working in the acute hospital setting will be familiar with the not altogether infrequent scenario where towards the end of a hospital stay a series of demands for consultations, tests and devices are presented to the team as the bounty to be met before the patient will be taken home.

Gaming the system in this manner to jump long outpatient queues makes sense on an individual basis, but the obvious line to be drawn between this conduct and the misery of a fellow citizen allowed to languish another night on a corridor to facilitate it needs to be drawn.

A proper system for prompt outpatient workup and fit for purpose respite and community care services would help undoubtedly, but the harsh truth is that hand on heart in two and a half years in the NHS I didn’t encounter this scenario once.

6. Leadership

I believe Simon Harris is a good man and for the first time in my adult life I have no questions at all over the sincerity and insight of an incumbent Minister of Health. But if we are being honest is health really a live political issue in Ireland?

When I lived in the UK and US healthcare debates were a major framing point of general and presidential elections. Without looking it up could you write 100 words on the healthcare plans of any of the four major parties? Me neither. 10? Nope. But I bet you know exactly where they stood on water charges.

Innovative and daring medical, nursing and managerial leadership is also sorely required. And here we all have a part to play. Doctors are far from blameless. As a group we can be conservative, dreary and sometimes reluctant to change.

The important thing is that it can be done, it must be done and we have to believe that.

Dr Anthony O’Connor is a consultant gastroenterologist in Tallaght Hospital. Cork-born, he trained in Tallaght and St James’s Hospitals in Dublin before doing an advanced fellowship in Boston USA and subsequently as a consultant in Leeds, UK before returning to Tallaght in 2016.

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    Fake outrage, purely because he criticises them and their policies. If he agreed with them, then they’d have no problem with him “interfering”, i.e expressing his opinions. A bunch of authoritarians is all they are.

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    Simp harder for the billionaire, simp. HARDER!

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    Jan 16th 2025, 7:53 PM

    @Chop Chop: Musk, like Trump and JK Rowling, was a media darling until he began to criticise “the left” “the narrative” “woke ideology” whatever you want to call it, the “general consensus” amongst politicians, the media, celebrities etc.. Once he began to do that, the hit pieces started, to change public opinion against him. It’s a tactic that they use quite successfully, and it works on a lot of people. Here’s one example from the Guardian of all places, singing his praises in 2013 ww.theguardian.com/technology/2013/dec/24/tech-128-2013-was-the-year-of-the-dark-web-elon-musk-and-h-from-steps (you have to edit the link as I can’t post it in full)

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    @F1rYnpWc: Off to bed now sonny. Adults talking.

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    @Chop Chop: nice made up story bro. Keep simping for the billionaires, they’re on your side, the peasant worker! lol

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    @Chop Chop: Yes, he was better before he started to promote misinformation and far-right propaganda, obviously. Being far-right yourself, of course you’re not going to see this.

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    @Brendan O’Brien: mainstream politicians & their NGO and MSM buddies want to have a monopoly on misinformation.
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    @Chop Chop: I’d say Musk was well under the radar, until he accused an innocent man of being a paedophile. Tesla cars are lovely, but funding a man who thinks nothing of spreading dangerous lies, turns my stomach.

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    @Kieran Conroy: Ye rednecks love shooting up any product ye disagree with but when “lefty Liberals” Boycott something ye throw your toys outta the pram. Go shoot some more Bud light

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    @Paul: You must have been asleep when the right wing loons started banning books, rolling back on lgbt rights, rolling back on womens rights etc etc. The only people calling for these erosions of rights are… *drum roll* the right wing loons. Off ya fk.

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    @Ian: Books that teach children about fisting should be banned. If I’m a “right wing loon” for thinking that, then I’ll happily wear that badge.

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    @Ian: Hey boy! We will always fight against books that sexualise kids. As for 147 genders…(LOL!!!) You far-leftist wokist’s day is done. Watch out boy…MAGA

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    Jan 16th 2025, 7:39 PM

    Elon Musk is without doubt dangerous, then again so is Zuckerberg who has changed his position with Trump coming on line,…then again so is Soros, who are all basically in a battle for the new frontier of social media driven information as MSM and TV stations heamorage, money from ads, drop off of viewership as eveyone streams information,
    Soros is losing badly,.but this won’t end well no matter who wins, especially with AI,.
    World is gonna be a rollercoaster Ride

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    its usually the ones that are trying to do the silencing that are the corrupt ones

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    Oh the irony ,, MEP ‘s complaining about interference

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    No worries when it’s Soros though.

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    @John Smith: when has Soros done this?

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    @JoeJoe Kilbride: soros , Mr abortion. Need those stem cells to try and live forever

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    Musk is at least listening to the issues that the vast majority of people are concerned with, unlike EU elites who are pushing minority agendas.
    Damn the EU

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    @Gary Condren: Musk is an authoritarian. He’s not some fighter for free speech. He’d soon have the vast majority of us employed as worker ants.

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    Jan 16th 2025, 8:26 PM

    @Gary Condren: what? Musk doesn’t give a flying fk about anyone’s issues only his own. You cannot be so fkin gullible, yet here you are and all the other Musk simps fawning over the richest man in the world thinking he fkin cares about the likes of you lmfao

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    @Gary Condren: Well said buddy! MAGA

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    @Kieran Conroy: fk off to America, so.

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    @Gary Condren: what issues are these?

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    Time for the woke to go back asleep

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    Elon the champion of woke all the same tho :)

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    Did they write about Soros?

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    @Dan Murphy: Yes! They never shut up about him.

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    Jan 16th 2025, 7:27 PM

    Someone should tell musty Musk that it is 2025.

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    @Patricia Mc namara: He knows. 2025. The year the libtards were consigned to the dustbin of history. MAGA

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    @Kieran Conroy: why are you on an Irish outlet celebrating a cult that’s intent on putting US billionaires first, to the detriment of the rest of the world?

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    The usual will be simping HARD for this dorķy billionaire. Bet they feel closer to being this billionaire than to their fellow broke coworker in their medǐôcře job

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    musk must be doing something right so
    Pity they were not so worried about the Gaza genocide many of the Irish MPs voting against the ceasefire over a year ago

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    @Kevin O Brien: Jayes that Musk rat is causing horrendous trouble all over the place and scaring the bejapers outa the lot of ye !

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    Jan 16th 2025, 8:30 PM

    I’ve got no personal problem with Musk, but sometimes he can come out with some poorly-thought out or childish insults online. However, the fact that he founded SpaceX and StarLink as well as co-founding Tesla, PayPal and OpenAI means that he clearly brings much more to the table than people accuse him of taking away. There is a definitely lot of faux outrage coming from the EU. I don’t like the AFD at all. I think they’re economically illiterate when they come out in support of tariffs and against free trade. I don’t like the way they suck up to Russia and attack NATO. They also refuse to discuss raising the pension age to deal with German Social Security bankruptcy. However, Musk owns X and he is more than permitted to interview whoever he wants on it just like any other media company.

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    Billionaires, they’re just like you and me. Who better to protect the interests of the ordinary man?

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    He’s just Cun’ty McCun’tface.

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    Jan 16th 2025, 7:44 PM

    They should just let Musk pick the leaders from now on. Trump looks very happy under old Elon

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    @Solid Stait: Trump would wanna watch back. Vance is the tech bro’s man in there.

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    Jan 16th 2025, 7:48 PM

    Money talks, and that’s Musk,

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    @Ned: Jayes that Musk rat is causing horrendous trouble all over the place and scaring the bejapers outa the lot of ye !

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    Jan 16th 2025, 7:34 PM

    What a load of s h 1 T

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    Jan 16th 2025, 7:40 PM

    That letter of deep concern is going to make all the difference. That’ll stop him and his ilk in their tracks.

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    Jan 16th 2025, 8:21 PM

    Well he is stuk up Trumps but a horrible person both of them are horrible people

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    Jan 17th 2025, 7:37 AM

    Ah yes, writing letters will make him quiver in his boots…

    Funny how they didn’t write letters when twitter, insta, etc were altered to lean towards one narrative

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    Jan 16th 2025, 9:24 PM

    He’s a troll. Unfortunately, he’s now a very powerful troll.

    If you fancy a laugh, look up “Musk Fake Gamer.” The lad’s ego is beyond fragile.

    It’s a shame, really, because he’s done quite a bit to advance our civilisation.

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    Jan 16th 2025, 10:22 PM

    It’s good fun to watch anyway.

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    Paedo Space Karen needs to be stopped

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    Jan 17th 2025, 1:53 AM

    @Dave G Doe: Who mentioned far left?

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    Jan 17th 2025, 1:54 AM

    @Sprong: Wiped out like a kind of ‘…. solution’?

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    Jan 17th 2025, 8:14 AM

    @Dave G Doe: Lol!… That’s bad news for Musks family

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    Jan 17th 2025, 12:12 PM

    The dung is hitting the fan, and some people don’t like that.
    Good man Musk.

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