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'Trump should have no place in your remarks about Irish media, Taoiseach'

The naivety of putting the word ‘sympathy’ in proximity to the US President’s take on journalism is breathtaking, writes the editor of TheJournal.ie.

POLITICIANS AND JOURNALISTS have more in common than either group might like to believe or admit.

A healthy dose of ego, for one. It’s a necessary trait for a life in politics spent pushing yourself and your beliefs into the public arena with the endgame of embroidering those beliefs into the fabric of the nation. A solid sense of self-belief is also a prerequisite in journalism, a job where being comfortable with pushback comes with the pay cheque.

The moment to watch is when ego tips into the egotistical.

There isn’t a truthful journalist among us who will deny that the lure of self-righteousness can occasionally cloud the focus on what is right. Likewise, it’s the naive politician who can’t recognise the difference between calling out a wrong and simple wrongheadedness.

Naive and wrongheaded

Current Taoiseach Leo Varadkar was both naive and wrongheaded in his comments about the Irish media on Monday to a room full of young Irish men and women in New York. It was a “private event”, he told the Dáil today. As private as an invitation luncheon in a banqueting room full of folk mostly known to you by seating plan can be, one imagines. Naivety, if we are to be charitable.

It is not clear if the Taoiseach was jet lagged at last Monday’s luncheon. He was certainly quick to mention today that he had only hopped off a red eye flight when facing the decidedly less appetising spread of TDs assembled at Leaders’ Questions at lunchtime.

It matters not a New York minute. He is standing firmly behind the comments he made at that luncheon, good (not reported, he says) and bad (reported and not denied).

This is where the journalist and editor could take the nit comb to the reported remarks.

This is where I could go into the editorial decision that saw TheJournal.ie decline the invitation to send a reporter to New York on our own dollar (accommodation would be financed by the government, I should clarify) to follow Bono and Mary Robinson’s support of the Irish bid to win a seat on the UN Security Council.

This is where I could outline how we understand the importance of that bid and gave it due coverage.

Procedural publicity tour

This is where I could explain how we deemed that otherwise tracking Taoiseach and team’s publicity tour for that bid was a procedural nice-to-have but trumped (no pun intended) by the need to divert that newsroom cost to must-have stories of urgent public interest.

Stories which the Taoiseach seems to be concerned are being neglected in favour of gossipy items about, oh say, novelty socks as a tool of diplomacy. The Taoiseach is embarrassed by that kind of thing and please don’t bring it up again, even at a totally private get-together with 50 of your closest friends.

Apologies if that skirts the line of the aforementioned self-righteousness but the Taoiseach, as a now self-professed supporter of public interest journalism, will surely forgive and approve the occasional lapse.

This is also where we could speak of how the follow-on clarification from the Taoiseach in the Dáil is disingenuous when he neither welcomes nor encourages the “free press” to ask hard questions.

Take for example, the Taoiseach’s reaction to just such a query made by TheJournal.ie at the Fine Gael conference late last year. The path to a direct and accurate answer was a long and tortuous one that involved blaming the question, blaming the context – dastardly context – and finally the arrival at a clarification, prompted by a spinproof FactCheck (go on that epic journey in more detail here should you so desire).

Thick hides, thick skins?

But let’s move on from all that. It doesn’t matter if Leo hurt the feelings of journalists. We’re well able to stand up for ourselves and we’re well used to criticism, particularly in the online world where the feedback can be unrelenting. In many cases, we should accept the feedback, engage with it if there is something to be learned and get better at our jobs.

Thick hides, thin skins; it’s a common appraisal of both the political and journalism sectors and it’s not always untrue.

What does matter is the one question the Taoiseach has yet to definitively answer in relation to his Monday lunchtime Ask Me Anything. How on earth did the leader of a country bidding to become a more prominent player on the peacekeeping scene, albeit temporarily, allow himself to be heard putting the words ‘Trump’, ‘media’ and ‘sympathy’ in any proximity to one another?

That was the chief question that journalists, the NUJ, opposition politicians and others were posing when the reports of his candid lunch emerged overnight. That’s one question that did not receive a direct answer when posed by Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou McDonald in Leaders’ Questions today.

The rhetoric of Trump

And it’s the only question arising from this incident that really, really matters. The US president’s rhetoric around the media and journalism that doesn’t suit his particular world view or agenda has been shocking and divisive. For the hard of listening, his recent escalation is to brand the free press an “enemy of the people”.

What traditionally happens to enemies of the people, to those viewed by traitors by tough-talking, ‘zero tolerance’ powers? Well, he has left that bit to the imagination of those with little imagination but all of it dangerous and, in some scary quarters, of violent intent.

So TheJournal.ie asked again this evening of the Taoiseach: What exactly did you say that had attendees at that luncheon running to reporters with that particularly incendiary melange of words. Please put our minds at rest.

This is the full statement we have received:

The Taoiseach has made his views very clear on numerous of President Trump’s policies, whether that concerns immigration, gender, race, trade, or other areas, multilateralism, the UN, Jerusalem, and the Iran deal.

The Taoiseach didn’t say he agreed with President Trump on anything, and that includes the media. His remark on ‘sympathy’ was that the President was willing to be critical, unlike traditional politicians, and that no group of people should consider themselves to be beyond reproach or immune from criticism. The Taoiseach explained this further in the Dáil today.

Consider us reproached, Taoiseach. Consider any past and future criticism as taken in the spirit in which it is intended. But consider, while rightfully lamenting the 88 Irish people who have died in 60 years of peacekeeping efforts, the power and potential harm words can wield and inflict, no matter the order in which they are strung together.

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    Mute aoife kally
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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:11 AM

    Gosh the pay is awful

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    Mute John Joe Collins
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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:15 AM

    Thats just for 38 hours a week…. They love the double bubble on the weekend..

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    Mute IrishGravyTrain
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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:24 AM

    Expenses that can be claimed are lovely though, I hear.

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    Mute Kinsaleable
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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:33 AM

    What expenses? You’re showing your true ignorance now gravytrain. I’d say you’d want to question your”source” and don’t just assume that what you hear is correct. Maybe try looking at gra website to see what the pay entails instead of trying to troll by using word like expenses..

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    Mute Kinsaleable
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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:35 AM

    Double bubble for the weekend? I think it’s 12 euro extra for a Saturday with an allowance for Sundays. They work 5 Sundays out of 10. I think I’d rather be with the family.

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    Mute Teddington
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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:36 AM

    Aoife the salary is probably only half of the picture, there’s a list of allowances available to Gardai which would make a politician blush, it really is a long list and a lot of the payments are tax free. I’m not bashing Gards by the way because I have nothing but respect for the job they do and I would not do it myself so they deserve what ever they get. but the picture painted of Gardai not earning much money seems to be a misrepresentation to me.

    http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Garda%20Pay%20and%20Allowances%20wef%201-1-2010.xls/Files/Garda%20Pay%20and%20Allowances%20wef%201-1-2010.xls

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    Mute filthypete
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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:47 AM

    Available but not possible to claim as a lot of them are posts so they don’t get anti social hours allowances and a lot aren’t available to Garda rank. New recruits unfortunately don’t even get the rent allowance which is core pay for every one else. It’s tough money starting off.

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    Mute Mark Newton
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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:48 AM

    That’s basic pay. They get allowances on top of the basic. It’s still not great pay but the allowances are a big help I believe.

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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:49 AM

    Teddington did you actually read what you just posted? Most of those allowances are *potential* and only apply if you’re stationed in the Aran Islands or an instructor or something.

    Most Gardaí wouldn’t be eligible for the big ones, so your crusade to tar them all as money grabbers and worse than politicians is shameful.

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    Mute Teddington
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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:53 AM

    Lads will you all calm down the information is all there and all I’m doing is highlighting it, once you’re out of Templemore you get a €4K tax free housing allowance, that’s a required €8K payrise to anyone but a Garda. Pay in every profession is poor at the start and increases as you go but if you add €8K to every pay scale on the list things look a lot better already and that’s only one of the allowances.

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    Mute Rock Stoneballs
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    Jan 6th 2016, 11:08 AM

    Teddington that’s €4,017 rent allowance they get every year. Equates to about 300 quid a month.

    Since they do a fairly thankless job for quite bad would you really begrudge them something that already exists as a social welfare payment?

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    Mute Rock Stoneballs
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    Jan 6th 2016, 11:08 AM

    *for quite bad pay I meant there, sorry

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    Mute Teddington
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    Jan 6th 2016, 11:12 AM

    Rock Stoneballs I don’t know why everyone is getting on my back here, I have no issues with Garda pay I just think that the figures that are constantly thrown about are a misrepresentation. €300 quid a month is not a bad little tax free payment every month, it’s a €600 increase to anyone else before tax so I was merely pointing out that the pay scales are a little bit misleading.

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    Jan 6th 2016, 11:27 AM

    You might say you’re doing a very thankless job for very bad recompense then eh?

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    Mute Aidan
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    Jan 6th 2016, 12:15 PM

    Teddington how much are you getting paid to sit on your hole and post on the journal :-)

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    Jan 6th 2016, 12:34 PM

    Teddington. ….. The rent allowance is taxable. …. your info is wrong. And the article is about new recruits who don’t get this rent allowance.

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    Mute Seamus O' Tiomain
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    Jan 6th 2016, 12:48 PM

    All allowances are taxable. Fact

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    Mute Philip Grant
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    Jan 6th 2016, 1:18 PM

    This link is 6 years old !! Dosent take into USC,pay cuts ,pension levy etc !!

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    Mute Seán O'Ceallaghan
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    Jan 6th 2016, 2:42 PM

    On the street for under 24k a year? It’s definitely not a job you do for the money,

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    Mute Stephen Bell
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    Jan 6th 2016, 2:58 PM

    Not tax free dude… Paid weekly in core pay and has paye, usc, prsi, superannuation and pension levy deducted from as all allowances have… All those deductions add up to approximately 60%…. None of the allowances are tax free despite what you think

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    Jan 6th 2016, 3:33 PM

    This is not tax free and not applicable to new entrants.

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    Jan 6th 2016, 4:23 PM

    I believe that the rent allowance was introduced back when the gardai were fighting for a pay increase and the government didn’t want increases across the board. It is not tax free.

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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:13 AM

    So after 19 years you get to a salary where you can start thinking about saving for a house deposit in Dublin. Think I’ll give it a miss thanks.

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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:43 AM

    Forget the salary it really doesn’t even begin to paint the picture, there’s a list of allowances as long as your arm (many tax free) on top of it, I don’t know why they bother with this idiotic idea of paying them a low salary and then bouncing it up with a host of other payments, it might be because they can give them tax free if they’re allowances instead of salary.

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    Jan 6th 2016, 11:29 AM

    @ Cardio … LOL !! Plenty of red thumbs from the Gardai no doubt , the longer we keep them occupied reading these comments the more time we give those who’re really take a stand for justice, Liberty and against corruption : IRISH WATER PROTESTORS

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    Jan 6th 2016, 12:36 PM

    95% of garda allowances are taxable….your completely wrong.

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    Jan 6th 2016, 12:49 PM

    No allowances in Garda are tax free. Fact

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    Jan 6th 2016, 9:55 AM

    A Garda pulls over a farmer on the road and says do you realise your wife fell out on road side a mile back… Farmer says thank god i thought i was going deaf!

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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:48 AM

    They work 6 days on then get 4 days off -the 6 days are 10 hour days. They used to have a cushy number with easy money and extra payments but not anymore. I’ve yet to meet a guard that actually likes their job! They’re all counting down the days til they can retire!!

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    Jan 6th 2016, 11:03 AM

    If they’re not happy in their jobs they should move as should anyone else out there, life is too short to be miserable like that. I know quite a few Gardai and all of them love what they do but the unsocial hours obvsiously get at them a bit as they miss a lot of things because of it.

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    Jan 6th 2016, 9:54 AM

    Are letters of endorsement from the Parish Priest and Local GAA club not requirements anymore?

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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:11 AM

    Don’t forget you need a big pair of lugs.

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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:12 AM

    No – but stereotypes need only apply…

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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:58 AM

    Where are all those people who complained about the high wages earned by public and civil servants? Where are all those people who continuously whinged about the cushy numbers and the massive pensions? Now the same simpletons have a chance to apply for one of these much sought after positions, but all they do now is complain about low wages and poor conditions.

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    Jan 6th 2016, 11:04 AM

    They will be applying in their droves for these positions, you just wait and see Tap, I would guess they’ll get north of 20k applications for these positions.

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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:12 AM

    Expect a lot more lads hiding behind bus shelters with speed guns over the coming years.. All new recruits will be trained well in the revenue making scams from day one in Templemore..

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    Mute David Conroy
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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:16 AM

    @Cosmo. If you drive responsibly why would you worry about fines ? Maybe it’s not someone else’s fault ?

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    Jan 6th 2016, 10:31 AM

    Taxi drivers!

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    Jan 6th 2016, 1:17 PM

    So if someone break the law they might get caught.

    What else exactly would you have a police force do you complete bell end

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    Mute Alex Flynn
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    Jan 6th 2016, 1:11 PM

    Considering the importance of the job the Gardai do its shocking how little they are being paid overall. €45k after 19 years of service is rubbish, after a couple of years in Dublin or London it’s fairly realistic for a recent graduate to be earning that.

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    Mute Noel Falkhall
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    Jan 6th 2016, 2:31 PM

    Should have kept the salary to themselves or open applications to 5 yrs old and up, as 19 yrs service to earn a salary that you can’t pay a mortgage with is insane and then deal with the lowest form of humanity. Starting salary €40k with €75k after 21 yrs now that’d be an incentive.

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    Jan 6th 2016, 1:30 PM

    To me it seems like this campaign is getting a lot of media attention. I don’t think they will have the numbers applying for it that they may have hoped

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    Jan 6th 2016, 1:20 PM

    Great career. Best of luck to all the applicants who applied.

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    Jan 6th 2016, 2:44 PM

    There is no rent allowances for new entrants, this was cut during the austerity measures, their salary and unsociable hours allowances were also reduced by 10%, all in the new Garda gets approximately £8,000 less. To add further insult their pensions are also significantly reduced

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    Jan 6th 2016, 2:37 PM

    There is no rent allowances for new entrants, their unsociable hours were also cut, so on average they are down £8,000 euro

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    Jan 6th 2016, 8:38 PM

    i was actually researching it and was humouring the idea of signing up on the website..then i seen the pay. I was unemployed at the time but luckily for a job in the mean time. A career change is only a good idea if you can afford to live after the decision

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