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Norma Foley wants to ban phone use in secondary schools. Alamy

Teacher Who cares if ministers' proposals on smartphones are a stunt? Kids need this

Our columnist says policies against phone use in schools and under-16s on social media are a step in the right direction.

The fight for the mental health of the next generation has begun.

Our education and health ministers have fired the first shots in what will likely be a hard-fought battle to turn the tide on the negative impacts of the online world on our children’s physical, social, personal and sexual development.

What they need now is an army of parents, grandparents, guardians, caregivers and educators to bolster their resolve. If you’d like to be part of a positive, empowering and child-centred change in Irish society, please read on! 

What has been proposed?   

In short, if the proposals are implemented, smartphones would be banned in secondary schools throughout the country and, until social media companies take responsibility for protecting children from the harm that their products currently cause, under 16- year-olds would not be allowed access their services.  

Why are they doing this?    

Minister for Education Norma Foley’s proposal is supported by the growing research that shows that the removal of smartphones during school time leads to better academic performance, higher levels of attention during class, better recall of class content, higher rates of mindfulness and lower feelings of anxiety related to school.  

Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly’s proposal, outlined in an interview with The Sunday Times, is based on the understanding that the correlation over the last 15 years between social media use by children and the increasing mental health crises they face is enough to warrant putting restrictions in place.

The mental health authorities in France, Spain, South Korea, Germany, Australia, the UK and the US have all called for similar measures. The US Surgeon General, Dr Vivek H Murthy has warned that “adolescents who spend more than three hours a day on social media face double the risk of anxiety and depression symptoms”. 

Is social media really that bad for children?    

We know that children seamlessly live between the physical and the virtual world in a way that no other generation before them has, benefitting from online information, education, communication, social interaction and entertainment. For minority groups of young people in particular, access to online communities, forums and information can provide much needed support and guidance, and a sense of acceptance and belonging that they may not be able to secure in their physical local community. 

But we also know that due to the total lack of online regulation, Irish children are regularly exposed to extremely violent, often pornographic and increasingly dangerous content, from beheadings to gang rape. Social-comparison-based content exacerbates their social anxieties and encourages misogyny and disordered eating, as well as facilitating unregulated predatory environments and exploitative online interactions.

Minority groups who are searching for acceptance and belonging online are also those most at risk of being harmed in their online interactions.

School systems and governments have struggled and often failed to manage the fall out.  

The other thing we all know about social media is its ‘addictive’ dopamine-mechanism-engaging nature: as adults we grapple with it every day. Until children are mature enough and skilled enough to manage their engagement with it in a healthy way, they need to be protected from it like we do with every other addictive substance or scenario. 

Would the proposals work?   

They’re a big step in the right direction.

Norma Foley’s secondary school smartphone ban is a well-founded, well-intentioned move to bolster the efforts already being undertaken in most schools to do what they can to lessen the negative impact of smartphones on the lives of their students during school hours.

However, if rolled out without the informed and educated participation of the students involved, measures like these are likely to be seen as just another rule to be evaded.

It’s crucial that students are facilitated to take ownership of this strategy, understanding it as a supportive step that serves their best interests. This helps to avoid the need for additional teacher-policing of students, which won’t result in any real protection for young people from the risks, harms, and addictive nature of the completely unregulated world of social media and the broader virtual experiences children encounter online. 

The legislative approach Stephen Donnelly outlines would go a long way in protecting children from the crimes that are perpetrated against them every day in the virtual world, crimes that are legislated for in the physical world but go totally unchecked online because of the loophole that ensures online platforms are not held responsible for the activities that occur on them.

It would give the education system time to help students develop the critical digital media literacy skills they need to navigate the online world safely and successfully.

Most importantly, it would put the onus on the online service providers and social media companies to create safe online spaces for children by default. 

Are there any risks or downsides to the proposals?   

The major risk with all of these initial proposals by government is that instead of protecting children in the virtual world, we attempt to prohibit them from engaging with it entirely.

Although we can be universally welcoming of the government finally taking a stand on this issue, we need to ensure that all government measures intended to protect children are built upon a child-centred, children’s-rights-based approach that does not prohibit their essential participation online but instead ensures their safety as they learn how to become responsible citizens of the virtual universe.

Isn’t this just a political stunt in the lead up to an election?

Within hours of Foley and Donnelly going public with their proposals, radio commentators and talk show panellists were quick to criticise what they dismissed as unrealistic, impractical, electoral stunts being staged by these politicians.  

Of course they are political stunts! Who cares? We should grab them with both hands and consistently and continuously lobby the relevant politicians until the proposed policy changes are effectively implemented.

These proposals might just lead to the preventative measures we’ve been waiting for to start addressing the youth mental health crisis in our country, the dramatic increase in sexual violence experienced and perpetrated by minors in Ireland and the trends of homophobic, misogynistic, racist and xenophobic attitudes we see in our classrooms being cultivated by the algorithms used to target our young people online.

Parents’ role 

Parents have a hugely important role to play in keeping their children safe online but in the face of poorly regulated online corporate conglomerates with more money and power than nation states, it has become virtually impossible to do so.

This currently has parents feeling totally overwhelmed and ill-equipped to even know where to start. The responsibility for addressing this problem can no longer lie solely with parents, schools and young people; it must be placed, through effective legislation, on those responsible for facilitating the harm experienced by children online. 

Right, so what do we need to do?

This is not a simple problem so there is no simple solution. We need a multi-layered, whole-government approach with cross-party support.
 
1. We need robust regulation to ensure the protection of our children online.  
2. We need widespread public information outlining the dire impacts of letting our children roam free in an often damaging, profit-based virtual world that currently does not have their best interests at heart.  
3. We need education to provide critical digital media literacy skills embedded into the very fabric of every aspect of our school system.  
 
If implemented, these measures would transform all smart devices into safe, non-addictive and empowering tools of creativity, communication, education and entertainment; we would not need to ban smartphones or ban anyone from using them.

The solution is not prohibition; it’s the increased accountability of social media giants and online service providers that will result in safe online participation for our children. There’s an election coming. Make sure your voice is heard.

Eoghan Cleary is an assistant principal, English teacher and coordinator of SPHE and curricular wellbeing at Temple Carraig Secondary School in Greystones. He serves on the Board of Directors of the Dublin Rape Crisis Centre and is the co-author of multiple textbooks for the new Junior Cycle SPHE course.

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    Mute Alan Wright
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    Oct 18th 2023, 4:39 PM

    Can’t wait for the inevitable (cash-grab) tribunal into this fiasco is started, with zero accountability to follow.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 4:48 PM

    Whenever it opens the nightmare of access and parking will begin, we have been attending St James Hosp for some weeks now and parking is just mental, I dread to think when the children’s Hosp opens the chaos that will follow.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 5:01 PM

    @Eileen Kelly: and the green party will have a 10 euro charge to drive into the city by then

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    Oct 18th 2023, 5:25 PM

    New parking: 575 will be paying visitor Spaces, 100 spaces will be CHI Social Care Guest Spaces and 319 spaces will be for Staff Parking.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 1:54 AM

    @Ivan Genockey: $20

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    Oct 18th 2023, 5:03 PM

    Rumour has it the children’s hospital will open in October 2054 and closed in 2056 due to being outdated

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    Oct 18th 2023, 11:39 PM

    @Pat Barden: when tallaght hospital opened decades after the plans were drawn up, bed sizes had increased, and the doors needed to be resized. Cant wait to see the snag list on this new white elephant with potential costs of 2.4 billion being floated.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 5:02 PM

    Well done to our Irish writers and our President Mr Higgins for speaking out against the slaughter of innocent lives in Palestine. Please continue to force your opposition to this sensless taking of life.
    Anyone in the privelaged position of having access to public persuasion has a moral duty to speak out against this mass murder and not to remain silent.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 6:53 PM

    The thoughts of a sick mind. Go get the help you obviously need.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 9:07 PM

    @Mary Looners: How about the thousands of Palestinians murdered by the terrorist forces of Israel…The thousands murdered by the same Israeli terrorist forces in the refugee camps in Lebanon…Israel a country from lines drawn in the sand by the murderous British empire.

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    Oct 19th 2023, 12:43 AM

    @Dissasociated Follower: Israel is looking for the Final Solution in Gaza over the next few weeks. The final dispersal of the indigenous Palestinian population into Egypt. Speak out against this genocide!

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    Oct 18th 2023, 4:38 PM

    Well I for one am shocked. Shocked I tell you

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    Oct 18th 2023, 4:53 PM

    they need to find a buyer first before they open it.sell it for about 120 million and state “a great day for Ireland”. that’s how these things usually work anyway.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 5:51 PM

    First child patients will be adults by the time it’s open

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    Oct 18th 2023, 8:38 PM

    Why did they not build that out near the M50 on a big site with plenty of parking for everyone. Easy to get to. Brought my elderly father up from Waterford to St James for a scan last week. A major hospital without any parking. Even the set down area was full.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 5:24 PM

    The money pit. They keep shovelling it in…

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    Oct 18th 2023, 5:18 PM

    Bad enough concerning the Children’s Hospital…The event centre in Cork again made a few headlines again a few weeks ago… It’s like Bart Simpson..Are we there yet…Photo in newspaper showed Enda Kenny, Coveney and the future deputy leader of FG Michael Martin. Kenny has gone trainspotting…People looking for Coveney as he has disappeared.. Martin can’t remember the photo… like when he stated there was no bank bailout..Jesus his memory is shot through…As for the event centre…as John Wayne would say ..Until hell freezes over… And BAM riding off into the Sunset

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    Oct 18th 2023, 5:56 PM

    Value for Money for the Citizen. That’s a joke if ever I head one. Beginning to sound like a Communist State.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 6:13 PM

    @Owen Mc: One thing about a communist state ..The incompetent politicians who thought this farce up..Would be up against a wall…And rightly so.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 5:13 PM

    Just before the next General Election. Bronze plaques will be insitu.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 4:46 PM

    Tbf it looks fabulous.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 4:51 PM

    Yep. It’s its only redeeming feature so far

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    Oct 18th 2023, 4:58 PM

    Lol

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    Oct 18th 2023, 6:42 PM

    And it’s not even April’s fools day. How many more OT will have to be refitted out due to incompetence. This hospital will never have enough people to work there to make it a safe place for children.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 5:48 PM

    Hopefully this will open soon and I really hope our children do not have to face the horrors of war that is being faced by so many across the world. Imagine if the hospital was hit by a misfired missile from a local terrorist gang and killed hundreds of its own people. Evidence is mounting and thousands here in Ireland including our politicians have been screaming that is was Israel. Nobody will apologise and try hold the right people accountable. Hatred of the people of Israel will continue and openly, because it’s acceptable. Oh and a tip to those people who have posters saying ‘queers for Palestine’ please please make your way to gaze and hold up those posters, they will just love you.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 6:15 PM

    @Chris Thaunton: Could you elaborate on your statement “evidence is mounting”. If you have evidence as to who perpetrated this dispicable act of terror on a hospital packed with injured people, would you kindly share it with the group please.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 6:53 PM

    @Chris Thaunton: I would like to know if you think that blowing children to smitherings in their hospital beds is a more effective and moral way of exterminating children than beheading because the people in the middle east who kill children indiscriminately can’t seem to make their minds up as to the most acceptable way to destroy a child.
    You seem to be determinably accepting of the statements made by the Isreali forces on who carried out this act of terror. I worry that you may loose your ability to question obdjectively every forcibly applied statement or convincing claim that beats itself upon your eardrum. I fear that you may be led down the path of perpetual propoganda.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 7:02 PM

    @Chris Thaunton: did you have to bring Israel into this. Very few irish people give a dam about Israel.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 7:09 PM

    @Joe Kelly: Hi Joe, that is blatantly obvious.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 7:12 PM

    @Dissasociated Follower: Hi there, yes, the mounting evidence is even now being transmitted to us on our very own state media. If they are willing to show it, that says a hell of a lot. Unfortunately the crime scene has been tampered with, to conceal evidence no doubt. There also an intercepted voice conversation that adds to the evidence. Available online from your trusted sources. I love group therapy.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 7:35 PM

    @Chris Thaunton: Thanks Chris. I’ll check it out and if I can allow myself to be convinced by the evidence you mention I’ll revert back.
    I’m sure though that long after our bones have been fossilised the truth will come out.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 9:00 PM

    Sure it will. Sure its only taxpayers money anyway.

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    Oct 18th 2023, 5:00 PM

    That would be the 30th of September so

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    Oct 18th 2023, 4:55 PM

    This is worse than the paul vi snek hall architecture from the Vatican article above. Eye of the divil as opposed to Our Lady’s.. Blow it up, and redo it without the all seeing eye

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    Oct 19th 2023, 1:57 AM

    Was this project even put up for bid or was it just all day work.

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