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Larry Donnelly If we had no Trump or Biden for 2024 - who would the potential candidates be?

Our columnist says despite the expected rerun of the 2020 elections with Biden and Trump, it’s worth asking if there are any alternatives.

IN MEDIA CIRCLES, August is often described as the silly season. It is a month when many people take holidays and try to enjoy a period of rest and relaxation prior to September and going back to the daily grind or to school or university. Some engage in wistful thinking about the real world they are on a brief sabbatical from.

I have been doing a bit of that, and much of it stems from a question I keep asking myself: What if neither Donald Trump nor Joe Biden were seeking to be the next President of the United States?

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Leaving aside one’s ideological viewpoint or personal grá for either man, let’s imagine that the 77-year-old and 80-year-old white males decided against a bid to return to the White House. They had ample reason to do so. First, they are two prominent members of the elderly cadre of American political figures who cling to power in a country that, truth be told, they cannot fully relate to anymore.

Two challenging positions

Trump could have calculated that an early announcement that he would forego standing a third time might have halted the multiple investigations that have precipitated criminal indictments at the federal and state levels.

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Love him or loathe him, he is not entirely wrong when he claims that politics lurks behind the animus of the prosecutors, even if three of the four cases – I have serious doubts about the New York indictment – are meritorious.

Had Trump chosen to pull the plug on a 2024 campaign, myriad considerations may have led to the dogs being called off.

As well as the legitimate concerns of his party colleagues regarding his capacity to serve four more years in the most demanding job on the planet, Biden could have reflected upon the plight of his troubled son, Hunter. Whatever the legalities and the lurid, unfounded accusations hurled by conservative agitators, President Biden has undeniably exhibited extremely poor judgment with respect to Hunter’s past dealings.

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They are being examined with a fine toothcomb at present and will be further scrutinised in the months ahead. If the president declared in 2023 that he would not be a candidate for re-election, it is improbable that rumours about the Biden family would be to the fore in right-wing news outlets.

Moreover, because they would have seen him as a senior statesman who was uniquely qualified to extricate the nation from the morass of the Trump tenure and who then had the good grace to step aside for the next generation, President Biden would have been lionised by progressives. Now, the best that a solid majority of Democrats will say about him is that he is better than the alternative.

But Biden and Trump could not be dissuaded. Consequently, Americans and those who track events in the US are staring down the barrel of an ugly, uninspiring rematch. Again, though, what if good sense had prevailed?

Who else could do it?

On the Democratic side, Vice President Kamala Harris would virtually certainly have pursued the nomination with the blessing of her boss. As a woman of colour, she would have a strong appeal to key constituencies in the primaries.

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Yet the fact is that her approval ratings remain incredibly low. In 2020, she began her campaign to be the Democrats’ standard-bearer with a bang and sank speedily. Reportage of an alleged likability deficit, perhaps linked to enduring misogyny, would follow Harris from start to finish.

President Biden’s Secretary of Transportation, Pete Buttigieg, came from nowhere on the last occasion to be a significant factor in the early Iowa Caucus and New Hampshire Primary. He was crushed in the South Carolina Primary, where the voters are far more diverse, and disappeared thereafter. Iowa and New Hampshire no longer play such a pivotal role and it is hard to see him garnering traction.

California Governor Gavin Newsome has been touted by Democratic strategists as “bright, charismatic and passionate” and, in his role, has had to grapple with and resolve abundant complexities in the huge US state. At 55, he is both young and experienced. He would be formidable.

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Ultimately, being the CEO of California, seen increasingly by very many Americans as a dysfunctional state, is a two-edged sword and his foes would have plenty of fodder for attacks.

I suspect that Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer would swiftly have emerged as the woman to beat. She has an impressive back story, impeccable progressive credentials and a knack for working with GOP leaders.

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Whitmer won re-election in something of a battleground state (Trump narrowly triumphed there in 2016) by a large margin. Polls indicate that she is also popular with crucial swing voters in Middle America.

As for the GOP, one wonders if Ron DeSantis would be way out in front of the pack if Trump weren’t in the race. In policy terms, he is the closest in tune with Trumpism.

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In personality terms, he does not hold a candle to the man that the MAGA faithful believe to be their saviour. The unknown here is would anyone who opted out in deference to Trump – South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem springs to mind – have jumped in and captured the hearts and minds of Trump disciples?

It is nearly impossible to envisage how Trump’s vice president, Mike Pence, or the ex-governor of New Jersey, Chris Christie, each a quintessential yesterday’s man, would have caught fire. South Carolinians Tim Scott and Nikki Haley – the former a sitting US Senator and an African American, the latter the state’s former governor and a daughter of Indian immigrants – are both compelling, effective conservative messengers. They clearly tick the electability box for those Republicans who take the November general election into account when picking their favourite in the preliminary.

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Yes, Haley and Scott are candidates at the moment, yet in a Trump-free contest, they would face the same quandary: Are they too distant from Trumpism, equally in philosophy and disposition, to win over the grassroots? In the end, it just might be that, because he would still command unwavering loyalty and wield enormous influence, Donald Trump’s endorsement would be dispositive.

A 2024 US presidential election without Messrs Biden and Trump would not be perfect. Indeed, the same systemic and other deficiencies that afflict politics there would remain. And to be sure, those who would supplant the Democrat and the Republican have their own shortcomings.

That said, an April poll revealed that roughly 2/3 of Americans would prefer if Biden and Trump had bowed out. Thinking it through in late summer, I concur.

Larry Donnelly is a Boston lawyer, a Law Lecturer at the University of Galway and a political columnist with TheJournal.ie. He is also a co-director of the Kennedy Summer School, an annual festival of Irish and American history, culture and politics. It will take place in New Ross, Co Wexford from 31 August to 2 September. For programme details and tickets, please see www.kennedysummerschool.ie.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 10:31 AM

    R.I.P.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:35 AM

    When Bowies creative output started to suffer in the 80′s, Prince came in and filled that void magnificently. I always viewed Prince in similar terms to Bowie in the way they challenged the mainstream constantly with their music and image. One crumb of comfort can be taken from his premature demise and that is the thousands of unreleased material he wrote over the years and which fans can look foward to hearing in the future.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:36 PM

    On probably his worst album ‘Never Let Me Down’, Bowie sang the line : “The Little Red Corvette has passed me by” …

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    Apr 23rd 2016, 12:18 AM

    ‘Least greatest’ album I think is more appropriate :)

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 10:35 AM

    What is the obsession with celebrities when they pass away?We should be mourning scientists,Doctors,professors and not musicians.A note in a newspaper is worthy,but countless stories one after the other is not on.We are taught to worship these people now and obsess.Sad day man passess away,hey over it.it Sums up society today,willfully ignorant and brainwashed by tv and radio.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 10:42 AM

    You didnt have to pay attention to the article’s on him you know, you have a choice here Lee.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 10:45 AM

    Says Lee Oswald

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 10:48 AM

    Yes but you know I have to give my 2 cents here…if I don’t highlight the pure ignorance and lack of common sense who else will?

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 10:48 AM

    What’s up Elma?

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 10:58 AM

    Musicians of this magnitutde are mourned simply because music means so very much to people; we grow with it, it grows with us, it relieves our stress, it gives us emotional release and it has very positive influences on our energy, body and brain. Prince was a musical genius, many people are upset, obviously not you Lee but thats okay. Maybe you’ve never heard music before

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:36 AM

    The reason for this is that more people would find Purple Rain to be more emotional and uplifting than Panck’s Constant.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:36 AM

    Says the lad called after a dead Assassin????

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:47 AM

    I think if you did a wee bit of research you would realise I was not an assassin.I had a poor shot ,I could not off pulled of the assassination due to this fact.But you believe the Warren commission,which in itself was flawed from the day it was set up.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 1:15 PM

    Back and to the left, back and to the left.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 1:39 PM

    I sense a slight bit of sarcasm there Elma…The fact is shots could not be done in the time scale suggested.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 3:01 PM

    I’m actually with you on this one tbh.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 3:04 PM

    Thank you Elma,I’m not saying I was not involved.But I certainly did not act alone.I never got the call…

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 10:28 AM

    Is this worthy of a separate news story?

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 10:32 AM

    Maybe not, but the people who own the website think so, and it’s a free world.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 1:40 PM

    Using your thumbs as a guide, it would appear about 80% thinkn yes it is.

    “One day of seven we’ll die”

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 2:44 PM

    Gotta get those clicks

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 12:13 PM

    Goodnight sweet Prince

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:24 AM

    RTE government and cronie buddies would not represent the independent freedom loving Prince. They might like his music but they certainly wouldn’t be down with his stances on position on certain things. Might I suggest that PrimeTime do a piece on Chemtrails a subject which Prince was vocal about ???

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:31 AM

    Maybe they could have played ” something in the water does not compute”…

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:50 AM

    I agree Mr mango…but as you can see from all the red thumbs you are gettingn most people like to be spoon Fed from the likes of rte news.They hold comfort in their Irish independent,rte news and mor ing Ireland lol.Over educated but lack independent thought and the will to question authority.

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    Apr 23rd 2016, 12:21 AM

    Mass media educated sheeple, fleeced of free thought, and totally oblivious to the wool being pulled down over their eyes.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 5:41 PM

    Good work RTE. good work

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 6:56 PM

    Thats cool,Prime Time taking a leaf outta Newsnight’s book with a lighter credits and a nice music tribute. Too many rte shows are too stiff and serious

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:53 AM

    Prince, like most of us like minded, would spit on Rte and it’s lie through omission policies. Prime time is a gate keeper like the war on drugs. They proclaim to be tackling the problem when they really are helping guide the outrage which is the brainwashed masses goto first emotion in reaction to the corruption of their overlords. But even Prince’s soul can’t replace the ones Rte & it’s minions already sold to the devil.!

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 10:37 AM

    Surprised anyone in RTE has enough soul to appreciate Prince. Disturbing to realise I have something in common with the government droids in Donnybrook

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 12:41 PM

    I wonder did David McCullogh manage to stay awake to hear the tune?

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 10:40 AM

    They should have faded the music in rather than just blasting it straight out. It’s a nice sentiment all the same.
    Pity RTE is shite for the vast majority of the time.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:57 AM

    Last weekthe bodies of two more young males were fished out of Galway Bay and Leo the Loo Head has decided he can afford to tske €14m from mental health.There are plenty more tragedies closer to home Prime Time could theme song, maybe “Suicide is Painless”.but of course it’s not, neither is is victimless.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:19 AM

    Prince was a fan of Dick Gregory. He had strong opinions about society and politics and would not have been a fan of state owned and government controlled propaganda tv.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 1:38 PM

    And I’m sure he would appreciate you hijacking the fact they played his music to commemorate his death as an excuse to have a rant. Not.

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