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Updated at 11.21pm
LUCINDA CREIGHTON’S LONG-AWAITED political party, Renua Ireland, was launched in Dublin today and there’s lots to talk about off the back of it.
“Open” was the buzzword used repeatedly by Creighton, the leader, and financial advisor Eddie Hobbs, who is the party president.
The pair opened proceedings and unveiled the name of the party before taking part in a Q&A alongside some of its new members. But most journalists just wanted to speak to Creighton.
It was hard to get away from the feeling that this was The Lucinda Show. But what do we really know about Ireland’s newest political party and its policies?
Here’s what we learned at the Science Gallery…
1. It’s not quite a party yet
Renua Ireland formally lodged registration papers and its constitution with the clerk of the Dáil this morning and is likely to be officially confirmed as a political party in the coming weeks. It can then set up a central bank account and start fundraising.
Creighton stated bluntly that they have no money at the moment but it was a pretty glitzy launch they put on today.
2. It already has a presence in Leinster House…
Renua has three TDs including Creighton, fellow ex-Fine Gaelers Terence Flanagan and Billy Timmins, who is deputy leader, as well as senators Paul Bradford and Mary-Ann O’Brien, an independent who was appointed to the Seanad by the Taoiseach in 2011.
O’Brien’s husband and Jack and Jill founder Jonathan Irwin is a member of the party (you may remember we floated that idea a few weeks ago) and will run in the general election.
Mortgage adviser Karl Deeter is the party’s ethics officer, in charge of a code of conduct for all party members, although he is not a member.
3. Eddie Hobbs doesn’t know what he’s doing… yet
Hobbs is party president and is still coy about running in the election, but it’s worth noting that Irwin and Hobbs are both based in the Kildare South constituency. Hobbs said family commitments would prevent him from running if the election was called tomorrow. But he added:
In due course if it is possible for me to run, I will run.
4. Renua is running a candidate in every constituency
The party has 3,500 people who’ve signed up to its website and has 180 declared candidates who want to run in the election. But only around 50 to 60 of them will be selected by the party for the general election next year.
The selection process will involve a 5-member panel (membership of which hasn’t been disclosed, but it could include people outside the party) who will essentially vet candidates before they’re voted on by the national party via an online poll.
5. The party wants open government…
“We want to ensure we govern in the sunshine. Cabinet confidentiality is unnecessary,” said Creighton today.
One of the most radical proposals is that the minutes of cabinet meetings will be made public 48 hours after they take place unless issues relate to national security. Renua argues there will be no need for FOI or parliamentary questions anymore “because information will, by default, be available”.
6. … and new politics…
We hear a lot about new politics from people starting new parties. We got some indication of what that means today. Renua wants to change the electoral system. Here’s how:
It also wants to introduce a number of changes within 30 days of entering power including a secret ballot to elect the Ceann Comhairle and provide powers to the Oireachtas to delay legislation.
It also wants term limits for ministers and the Taoiseach although this would not disqualify someone who has been a minister in the past from being a minister again, Creighton explained. The idea would be to end situations where TDs can spend 10 consecutive years in cabinet.
Renua wants to develop an oath of allegiance to the state and a new code of ethics for all TDs and Senators. It also wants to amend the constitution to require politician to represent the whole country.
Councillors will have their roles more tightly defined and it will become a full-time, paid position. The overall aim is to separate local and national politics.
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7. But what about abortion?
The formation of this party had its genesis in Creighton’s expulsion from Fine Gael for voting against abortion legislation in 2013 and she was joined by fellow rebels Flanagan and Timmins today as well as her husband Paul Bradford. The party will allow a free vote on such issues of conscience.
Elsewhere, Creighton confirmed she would be voting yes in the same-sex marriage referendum ”but others are free to make their own choice when voting”. She repeatedly emphasised the party’s “open position” on matters of conscience.
8. It’s not ruling out sacking public sector workers
Eddie Hobbs said there would be no restoration of the public sector pay cuts that have been introduced in recent years and said the cost of running the public sector is still too high.
In its glossy policy document, Renua also says that sackings in the public sector have to be a reality if performance does not improve after employees are trained or transferred to new roles.
9. It’s very pro-business and entrepreneurship
The party is proposing an Irish Credit Network, a peer-to-peer lending programme, which would be run and owned by business.
It also proposes to remove the higher rates of USC for the self-employed and proposes to mandate the self-employed to enrol in a pension scheme. The rate of capital gains tax will be changed for investment in business and employee share schemes will be encouraged.
10. It wants to reform the budget process
The party wants “modern accountancy techniques” applied to the management of the public finances and to give the Dáil and Seanad powers to influence departmental budget allocation and develop the budget through Oireachtas committees.
11. It has big ideas for childcare
Renua wants to change maternity leave to parental leave so that parents can decide how to use six months paid leave. A tax credit will be introduced to assist families in the cost of childcare. It also wants the state to develop community creche facilities.
12. It wants to reform local property tax and abolish Irish Water
The party wants a Zoned Land charge which would place a levy on all land zoned for development as well as introduce a Site Value charge. All this money would be used to fund local services and develop social infrastructure.
Creighton said the party wants to “dismantle” Irish Water but added that it does believe in the principle of paying for water. There’s no detailed policy on this yet.
13. It wants a truth and reconciliation process
Renua proposes to establish a truth and reconciliation process to run over a period of four years. It would deal with, among other things, the stigmatisation of single mothers, the survivors of abuse in schools, survivors of the care system, people subjected to coerced and forced adoptions and and families and victims unethically committed to the care system. The idea is that the commission would produce reports on an ongoing basis.
14. It doesn’t have much to say about health…
But it does want to rebuild the health system “free from the orthodoxy of vested interests” and build services out of the HSE and into the community. The document doesn’t say much else on that issue.
15. … or these areas…
It pledges fundamental reform of the education system as being a priority by prioritising citizens over trade unions, but doesn’t go into detail.
On welfare, it says rather oddly:
Those who are not self-reliant will be imprisoned rather than released by a life on welfare.
On justice it says that “a regeneration of a policy of zero tolerance in the streets and the courts is necessary”. Renua believes that a justice policy that fails to rehabilitate citizens has failed but adds that prisoners also owe a duty of care to society to rehabilitate themselves. What sort of solid policy comes out of that, we’re not sure.
16. It’s not ruling out Fine Gael, but there’ll be no deal with Sinn Féin
Finally, Creighton said that when it comes to coalition deals it will be about “policy not personality”.
So she wasn’t ruling out a post-election deal with her former party although noted it would be “very difficult” to prop up the current coalition if they don’t quite make the numbers. She was more definitive about Sinn Féin:
16. Enda’s not too keen on teaming up
The Taoiseach wasn’t saying much, when asked about the prospect of a possible future collaboration with Team Lucinda. Speaking to reporters in the US, he said it was a “free country” when asked about the former Fine Gael minister’s new party.
He added that the Government was always willing to listen to good ideas… from independents.
“I did say in the past that constructive suggestions that have come from independents can be worthy of being considered. Why wouldn’t they be, if they’re about job creation and ways of improving the lot of people?
“It’s the duty of Government to listen, and that’s what we do all the time.”
Additional reporting, Daragh Brophy.
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State funding for dental care dropped by 30% while only this week the politicians are looking to increase their own wages.
And before anyone gets on the “dentists make too much money” bandwagon, the payment for medical card treatments doesn’t even pay enough to cover the time needed to throughly clean the surgery between patients and the new PPE needed to treat them so why work for free or at a loss ?
@David Jones: And dental materials are very expensive. Also in most cases people wouldn’t have to pay for lots of treatment if they look after their oral health properly, and go for regular free checkup and clean which detect issues early on and prevent major treatment being needed.
@David Jones: Sure they don’t David…1000 quid for a root canal on a molar with temporary crown. It took an 1 hour 30 mins. The tooth will need a permanent crown (about another 900 quid). I guess dentists make up for this ‘shortfall’ with private patients. You never wondered why people traveled to have dental work done elsewhere in Europe? As for ppe costs…give me a break. Gloves and smocks. Then additional bleach IPA cleaning. The disposables would already be changed patient to patient…the equipment would already be there to perform the cleaning. You’re basically wiping down the chair and patient contact surfaces. It’s taking ten minutes from what I see between patients. I’ve not known a dentist struggling to make ends meet at anytime in my life.
@David Jones, my dentist charges me an additional €12 for that service, are you telling me a dentist is getting less than €12?
@David Jones: I was quoted €850 for a root canal and a further €600 for the crown just a month ago. None of that is covered by the medical card, an implant (I would require 5) is €2000 per tooth. A denture is €1000.
Sure a dentist has a lot of overheads but my god can they charge.
@Rostyballs78: there is a reason crowns and implants cost a lot. For crowns the dental technician fee has to be considered. And for implants the implant itself is not cheap. You also need to fully scrub up with proper surgical PPE and equipment, alot of people are also sedated for the treatment so there’s the cost of the anaesthetist too.
@David Jones: dentists on €70ph !!
Meanwhile the taxpayers have hardly a tooth left.
@RogersRabbit: very true. Have worked every day of my working life and get pretty much nothing. Even the ‘free’ yearly check was nothing more than a cursory glance.
@RogersRabbit: A lot of us medical card holders have worked all our lives and paid our taxes just like you but had to retire at 65….no choice to stay on.
The scheme was rediculous anyway. Only 1 filling allowed a year, but extractions are free, what sort of “prevention” is that? Not surprised older people are not going to the dentist.
@Jane Alford: prevention means not needing the extraction or filling in the first place. Which most people wouldn’t if they went for regular checkups.
@Jane Alford: 2 fillings per year.
@Sam Harms: It really depends on your teeth. Regular checkups just mean at least one filling every visit…
@William Ryan: And if an existing filling falls out, as they do on a regular basis, refilling counts as a “filling”, there’s no warranty on fillings.
Doesn’t seem fair though people on medical cards could get free dental care while the rest of us pay for teeth cleaning etc. It was 120 euro the other day for my partner.
@Karen Doyle: I work full time and am a medical card holder. I had to pay €90 for a cleaning just after Xmas. It doesn’t cover cleaning, it covers the 2 mins the dentist looks into your mouth before deciding on what needs to be done. More of the the “they get everything for free” brigade. Don’t mind anyone’s actual circumstances
@Karen Doyle: you get one free checkup and a clean that you will have to pay a max of €12 towards each year through prsi.
@Karen Doyle: maybe you should change your dentist. There is a national scheme for one teeth cleaning per year to those with enough PSR contributions.
There is two dentist schemes for adults, card holders and everybody. The scheme for everybody depends of previous contribution via taxes deducted in the payslips. Cleaning teeth and removal of wisdom teeth is available free to everybody with enough PSR contributions. However medical card holders, adults, are excluded
@Nicola Monaghan: cleaning is free once per year with enough PSR contributions regardless of having or not medical card. Check the HSE site
@Karen Doyle: wtf dentists are hardly free for MC holders youd see a dentist cheaper on PRSI you tool
@Karen Doyle: Teeth cleaning on MC is not available.
@Karen Doyle: I paid 140 in smiles for small filling. Rip off.
Meanwhile, the state has UNLIMITED FUNDS to provide free legal aid for our criminals!
It doesn’t make any sense. I understand why dentists are leaving the scheme. The scheme is like only repair the broken and never program essential surgery, wait until the issue turns into emergency and then … will see …. how many PRS contributions have the patient? This is like the cancer screening schemes wouldn’t treat the cancer for not having enough PSR contributions
The government seems to see the dentists as a beauty and superfluous thing, maybe for them. However our health starts in our mouth as we are what we eat. Poverty has impact on the teeth and mouth. The quality of the drinking water supplies to our homes also impacts on the health of our mouths. Any policy investing the teeth and mouth health will reduce the cost of side effects saving money of the taxpayers at long term … Besides it is a temporary thanks to the children scheme
That never mentioned adults with special needs.They have no PRSI contributions only their medical cards.Dentists will not take them now
A lot of dentists on here by the comments.
@Peter Coen: true money, money, money. What’s new.
That never mentioned adults with special needs.They have no PRSI contributions only their medical cards.Dentists will not take them now.
“Dentists simply can’t afford to participate” oh my word, they can easily afford to reduce the cost of the treatments as it is and still make a massive profit
@Mickomacko: nah bruv
The link to Treatment Benefit Scheme available to those with enough social insurance contributions, the prsi on our payslips. The scheme is managed by the Department of Social Protection. Dentist can apply directly …. for the comments above it seems not the best practice … the bill must to disclose the Treatment Benefit discount
You can know if your dentist have applied and got it by making a Freedom of Information request to Social Welfare
https://www.gov.ie/en/service/1fb655-treatment-benefit-scheme/
My dentist now refuses to take the medical card. I’ve rung every dentist within 80km of where I live. Those still accepting the medical card are either only treating children or they are not accepting new patients. That includes so-called health centers.
There is zero chance of me being able to afford two fillings privately. Zero way to get €300. So, I’m in pain and will just have to suffer the medieval state of affairs in this country.
There has to be some alternative to this total fiasco. Surely they cannot expect to leave medical card holders in limbo like this forever ????
it made me think back in for a long time if you had a state medical card only pulling was free and because we had no money for fillings I have now 3 caps . I never understood why they where so backward cruel here . But I still live I wonder when this rule changed
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