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Architects and planners concerned that Cork flood defence plan won't work

Warnings have been issued that parts of Cork city could be flooded between 8 and 9.30am this morning.

THE OFFICE OF Public Works is in the middle of planning a flood defence system for Cork city – but some planning experts have raised their doubts that the plan will actually prevent the River Lee from flooding.

In plans that begun in 2013, after a long history of devastating floods in Cork city. Areas potentially prone to flooding from the River Lee downstream of Inniscarra dam to the discharge of the River Lee into Cork Harbour adjacent to Páirc Uí Chaoimh were identified and a number of flood defence options were compiled.

We’re now at Stage Two of the Lower Lee (Cork City) Drainage Scheme – where the proposed plans are shown to the public – and people are a bit concerned.

So what’s the current plan?

On the website set-up by the Office of Public Work (OPW) ‘to inform and update the public’ on the plans and progress of the works, it says the scheme will consist of:

  • Flood defences along the River Lee downstream of Inniscarra dam and through Cork city
  • Changes to the operating procedures for the Carrigadrohid and Inniscarra reservoirs for the purposes of flood risk management, as may be facilitated by the above flood defences
  • A flood forecasting system to help guide decision-making on dam discharges and, if necessary, the erection of temporary/demountable defences downstream and in Cork city.

An ESB infographic of the River Lee’s current system can be viewed here.

Concerns

shutterstock_199338674 Warnings have been issued that parts of Cork city could be flooded between 8 and 9.30am this morning. Shutterstock / Andrei Nekrassov Shutterstock / Andrei Nekrassov / Andrei Nekrassov

But there are concerns among a number of engineers, planners, archaeologists and architects about the scale and implications (both environmental, financial and historical) that this scheme is going to have on the city.

The campaign ‘Save Our City’, which are calling on a better flood defence scheme have listed their main concerns on their website. Here are a few:

  • Cultural heritage: The proposals will destroy huge parts of Cork’s historic character through damage to and removal of the city’s historic quay walls and railings, replacing them with basic concrete walls
  • Economic effect: The plan will turn the city into a building site for up to 10 years during the construction works, affecting trade and tourism in the city. The damage to the historic environment will stunt tourism and investment in the longer term
  • Flooding downstream: The Docklands, Blackrock and Mahon are not considered in any depth as part of the proposal, making them more susceptible to flooding in the future.

One architect who lives and works in Cork raised questions about the banking of historical flood plains of the River Lee, as the increased water volume coming into the city centre will create huge pressure on the quay walls – possibly raising the risk of flooding.

The city of Cork is to be turned into a building site for the duration of the works, historical artefacts are to be removed and the visual connection to the Lee is to be severely compromised. I question the validity of the scheme in keeping the international standards set by the Washington Charter (1987) and Venice Charter (1964) for interventions into historic places.
Can the OPW guarantee that this scheme will future proof the city from flooding in years to come? In addition, is there a workable back-up plan in place if it does fail?

If you wish to make a submission to the consultation process, email them to claire.anderson@opw.ie marking them clearly ‘Lower Lee (Cork City) Drainage Scheme’ and include a name and address before 17 February.

Read: Flood defence plan for Cork finally unveiled to the public

Read: ‘We couldn’t go home for five months after the floods. We’re in fear it could happen again’

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    Mute Eóghain Pádraig MacEochagáin
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    Jun 6th 2016, 8:25 AM

    He’ll be praying he’ll get Judge Martin Nolan.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 8:50 AM

    There was a petition that went around a few years ago to get rid of him, nothing came of it. The internet outrage towards him is nothing new.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 9:00 AM

    Seen that a year or so ago and when I tried to sign it apparently it was thrown out. Makes me angry really that we pay him to be so incompetent. A real pity.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 8:46 AM

    Lots of people seem to blame the government for just about everything that happens…what about personal responsibility and decency in people, is there a minister for that??

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    Jun 6th 2016, 9:31 AM

    The government has partial blame for their inaction against the incompetence of judges, the lack of prison spaces that allows a revolving door system and not putting in place minimum sentences. This 18 yr old will no doubt have already racked up a ridiculous number of convictions.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 8:47 AM

    Violent crime is allowed if your solicitor can mention to the judge you’ve hard a hard life or a hard year or even a hard few hours. Then it’s ok to stab shoot or just abuse someone.
    Judge Nolan the biggest hearted man in the country

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    Jun 6th 2016, 8:15 AM

    At least the suspect can be named this time because he’s legally an adult

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    Jun 6th 2016, 8:50 PM

    Life in jail no excuses

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    Jun 7th 2016, 12:07 AM

    If he’s charged he’ll be named.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 8:40 AM

    Dublin is a lovely place unfortunately these kind of things happen to often. In general Dublin is still safe.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 1:25 PM

    Dublin is an absolute kip,don’t delude yourself

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    Jun 6th 2016, 2:37 PM

    Dublin is not the worst of them, not by a long shot!

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    Jun 6th 2016, 5:17 PM

    bagdad is worse marginally

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    Jun 6th 2016, 8:30 AM

    From Dublin don’t live there now but very sad about how unsafe and violent its become bloody gov’t needs to up its game. #love Dublin

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    Jun 6th 2016, 9:03 AM

    It’s not like the tabloid media would have you believe and there are gangs roaming the streets. The 2 killings this weekend are one that was involved in criminality and the other an argument at a traveller halting site. Sick of the view that Dublin is unsafe, it is if you are up to no good but it’s rare for a member of the general public to be caught up in the violence

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    Jun 6th 2016, 9:48 AM

    bullshit

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:53 AM

    It’s not unsafe at all Glenoir. It’s a city with nearly 1.5m inhabitants. It has the same problems as every other city but by and large it is very safe but if you want trouble you will find trouble. Last night’s incident involved a row between travellers. The other high profile murders of late have involved serious criminals. Traveller murders are rare so unless you are a serious criminal caught up in a gang feud you should have little to worry about.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 8:16 AM

    What is happening in Dublin. It’s getting out of control!

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    Jun 6th 2016, 8:26 AM

    It’s absolutely crazy. Dublin is getting a really bad reputation. The judges need to come down hard on these people. The 18 year old (if found guilty of murder) should get life in prison.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:11 AM

    Am…..that’s the only sentence he can get if found guilty of murder.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 1:13 PM

    Ah Pat, work with me here. A lifetime behind bars. These lads should not see the light of day again. He’ll probably get 15 years and out in 10 for ‘good behaviour’. He should be locked up for the rest of his days, simple as

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    Jun 6th 2016, 3:17 PM

    Getting murder would be hard more likely it would be man slaughter and sure the poor lad has a hard life and jail would very hard for him so 5 years with 3 suspended.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 4:58 PM

    It’s his culchur, don’t blame him!

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:09 AM

    Wtf is wrong with these people. Ireland is a country with opportunity. I understand if this happens in 3rd world countries.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 8:29 AM

    Dublin City is at a life-or-death crossroads.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 8:47 AM

    Please enlighten us….1.2 Million people in Dublin and 1 is stabbed!! Definitive life or death you idiot!

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    Jun 6th 2016, 9:54 AM

    It’s because none of ye clowns ever leave Dublin in yere tracksuit wearing lifetime. Ye think all cities of 1.2 million in Europe are full of howerya junkies too.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:17 AM

    Classy keyboard warrior post, “Dave”.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:49 AM

    Dave i was in kildare once Arr ye slack jaw yokel.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:50 AM

    I mean outside of Ireland you fool, Lay off the glue for a while.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:06 AM

    Back to bed with you Dave, sleep off that hangover :-)

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:16 AM

    Dave we are not mind readers up in the big smoke..if you mean outside Ireland say outside Ireland Yarp .

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:31 AM

    Ah Dave ser didn’t most of them have their foreign trip away last Saturday

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:39 AM

    Must take a fertiliser sack full of Taaaythos and a bucket of Club Lemon to cure your Buckfast and barbiturate hangovers…..another savage shlap of Shudocrem couldn’t go amiss ‘aythur’!! ;~}

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:45 AM

    isin’t it about time for your daily injection of metadone through your big toe?

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    Jun 6th 2016, 1:02 PM

    Still beats oral injections of tetra delta and golden maverick from some fat sweaty farmers arse with scour and high yields!! Back to the tall ships and sunny splendour of the capital here…..back to tall sh¡theaps and shlurry-puppies for yee!!

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    Jun 6th 2016, 5:47 PM

    Stabbed to death? In English it’s called murder!

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    Jun 6th 2016, 4:19 PM

    Two with no respect for the law or society shot and stabbed by people with no respect for the law or society.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:37 AM

    That’s it. Sure haven’t they the two weeks booked for Benalmadena anyway, tis great and ya get the full irish for 3 euro 50.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 12:13 PM

    Out late line dancing last night to Nathan Carter? We Dubs don’t go to Benalmadena. We go to Torramaleenas. It’s only tropickk!! Wrap me up like a wagon wheel.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 6:33 PM

    What has become so sad in this country, is we hardly blink anymore when someone dies violently, gun crime is becoming too common.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 6:34 PM

    # as has knife crime

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    Jun 6th 2016, 5:06 PM

    God knows what the rest of the world must think of Dublin with nearly a shooting or a killing almost daily

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    Jun 6th 2016, 4:22 PM

    Strange how you point that out, but fail to blame the ‘settled’ community for the growing number of murders this year.

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