We need your help now
Support from readers like you keeps The Journal open.
You are visiting us because we have something you value. Independent, unbiased news that tells the truth. Advertising revenue goes some way to support our mission, but this year it has not been enough.
If you've seen value in our reporting, please contribute what you can, so we can continue to produce accurate and meaningful journalism. For everyone who needs it.
Sign in. It’s quick, free and it’s up to you.
An account is an optional way to support the work we do. Find out more.
By continuing, you are indicating that you accept our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy.
Pic: Yui Mok/PA Wire
THE DUKE AND DUCHESS of Cambridge have emerged from St Mary’s Hospital in London with their new arrival, as the world’s media waited to greet the little prince.
Earlier today Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, as well as the Middletons visited the hospital. The British Royal Family has yet to announce a name for the new baby boy but it is expected shortly.
So, what do we make of him?
Pic: John Stillwell/PA Wire
God love her. Rip
We have lived through this. I want to try to say how anyone contemplating suicide has usually no idea of the tsunami of pain shock grief mental health troubles and huge expense follows for the family left behind.
If you cannot function and are in severe pain shame exhaustion – be a hero and ask for help. It is not an easy road but once you acknowledge you are powerless over this – you can take the pressure off yourself – seek help to rest and recover. Your Family would prefer this rather than lose you. Be a hero and stay here with us – please.
@Eddie G: Help isn’t always readily available. Tbh most of society doesn’t care about others. If you read most of the journal comments it’s quite clear
@Eddie G: excellent advice Eddie, well said.
@Diddles Daffy: that is not true . but when one is unwell the behaviour can antagonise others , push them away. Its not obvious to even the closest families when someone is severely unwell. In our experience a good GP us the best port of call. The public services can be tough but thats why it takes courage – if they manage to help with symtoms – the person gets a breather and the family gets a real chance to understand and support. And we deserve that chance.
@Eddie G: Well said Eddie. Great advice.
@Eddie G: i feel sorry for the lady who did not feel comfortable asking for help , maybe she did and no one listened . .Mental health is not easy and living with it is very difficult ,.I am saddened that you think that people who take there life have sense to understand the sadness and the questions it leaves family and friend’s behind , the brain , the ability to allow them to think that way stopped working that in there own head only see life in a very different way, the disease taking there own life . forcing them to believe its best for every one if they were not around … the mental chemicals that tell us that it will be ok are so mixed up that it goes the other way .as each of us are individuals the dose and time needed to get it correct to make them better he health service drs and all people who do help do there best sadly some never get that ..
to say its the persons fault is sadly wrong , that is like asking a car run on diesel to run on petrol from time to time , honestly its never going to work . you as family members friends you cannot know the pain that person goes through and how out of control of the mental illness takes , all you want to do is get better yet some time you only get short bursts of feeling great yet always fearing when it will end ,,at the same time trying to enjoy the brief times when you feel ok in your self …
the real hero is the person living with the disease . shame on you for not recognizing the real person in there suffering … Mental illness changes daily and over time .. best for every one is to learn more about the disease and treat the people , with a bit more respect and love . ….
Just terrible news for some one’s family and friends Rest in peace.
Jesus,that’s tough..but at least the family have a body ..may she rip.respect to the recovery team..great service in a horrible situation.
@Mark Hurson: The “University of Life” teaches all of us some very unpalatable facts and how to try to deal with them… Like when my sister-in-law, suffering severe post-natal depression, threw herself in front of a speeding bus in its fast bus lane in Dublin, killing herself. Like when my friend found his neighbour’s body underwater, pulled off that arm and all that followed for all involved in both events…
Life may not be happy-go-lucky for everybody but it’s still got to be lived, warts and all
@Canny Jem: Not everyone obviously shares your opinion. If someone is in agonising mental pain and not getting help. Maybe this feels like their only option
@Diddles Daffy: My reply was to Mark Huron who commented on a previous post I made, which has been deleted (which I’m glad was deleted. In hindsight I should never posted it, too graphic in content and possibly distressing to some readers. For once I thank the Journo’s editors for deleting it).
Your response above is out of context to my original post. But I agree, in great sadness, with your sentiments. I knew four people in my life who believed they has no other option.
today its best we all educate our selves about mental health and be more caring a society .the next time some one sits down for chat and is still complaining about the same thing they were talking or worried about last time you met , don’t switch off , listen and for once start to help that person with the situation and that may be having to spend time helping them to look at solutions they cannot see and they don’t know how to even start on be there commit the time and stay in touch don’t be selfish say its not your problem ,actually it is all our problem because we hear the call for help yet never recognize it … just because you are ok and life is good does not mean that some one very close is in same position , they are not , educate your self about suicide mental illness and stress then listen so you can help others
Use precise geolocation data. Actively scan device characteristics for identification. Store and/or access information on a device. Personalised advertising and content, advertising and content measurement, audience research and services development.
These cookies are necessary for the website to function and cannot be switched off in our systems. They are usually only set in response to actions made by you which amount to a request for services, such as setting your privacy preferences, logging in or filling in forms. You can set your browser to block or alert you about these cookies, but some parts of the site will not then work.
These cookies may be set through our site by our advertising partners. They may be used by those companies to build a profile of your interests and show you relevant adverts on other sites. They do not store directly personal information, but are based on uniquely identifying your browser and internet device. If you do not allow these cookies, you will experience less targeted advertising.
These cookies enable the website to provide enhanced functionality and personalisation. They may be set by us or by third party providers whose services we have added to our pages. If you do not allow these cookies then these services may not function properly.
These cookies allow us to count visits and traffic sources so we can measure and improve the performance of our site. They help us to know which pages are the most and least popular and see how visitors move around the site. All information these cookies collect is aggregated and therefore anonymous. If you do not allow these cookies we will not be able to monitor our performance.
Cookies, device or similar online identifiers (e.g. login-based identifiers, randomly assigned identifiers, network based identifiers) together with other information (e.g. browser type and information, language, screen size, supported technologies etc.) can be stored or read on your device to recognise it each time it connects to an app or to a website, for one or several of the purposes presented here.
Advertising presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times an ad is presented to you).
Information about your activity on this service (such as forms you submit, content you look at) can be stored and combined with other information about you (for example, information from your previous activity on this service and other websites or apps) or similar users. This is then used to build or improve a profile about you (that might include possible interests and personal aspects). Your profile can be used (also later) to present advertising that appears more relevant based on your possible interests by this and other entities.
Advertising presented to you on this service can be based on your advertising profiles, which can reflect your activity on this service or other websites or apps (like the forms you submit, content you look at), possible interests and personal aspects.
Information about your activity on this service (for instance, forms you submit, non-advertising content you look at) can be stored and combined with other information about you (such as your previous activity on this service or other websites or apps) or similar users. This is then used to build or improve a profile about you (which might for example include possible interests and personal aspects). Your profile can be used (also later) to present content that appears more relevant based on your possible interests, such as by adapting the order in which content is shown to you, so that it is even easier for you to find content that matches your interests.
Content presented to you on this service can be based on your content personalisation profiles, which can reflect your activity on this or other services (for instance, the forms you submit, content you look at), possible interests and personal aspects. This can for example be used to adapt the order in which content is shown to you, so that it is even easier for you to find (non-advertising) content that matches your interests.
Information regarding which advertising is presented to you and how you interact with it can be used to determine how well an advert has worked for you or other users and whether the goals of the advertising were reached. For instance, whether you saw an ad, whether you clicked on it, whether it led you to buy a product or visit a website, etc. This is very helpful to understand the relevance of advertising campaigns.
Information regarding which content is presented to you and how you interact with it can be used to determine whether the (non-advertising) content e.g. reached its intended audience and matched your interests. For instance, whether you read an article, watch a video, listen to a podcast or look at a product description, how long you spent on this service and the web pages you visit etc. This is very helpful to understand the relevance of (non-advertising) content that is shown to you.
Reports can be generated based on the combination of data sets (like user profiles, statistics, market research, analytics data) regarding your interactions and those of other users with advertising or (non-advertising) content to identify common characteristics (for instance, to determine which target audiences are more receptive to an ad campaign or to certain contents).
Information about your activity on this service, such as your interaction with ads or content, can be very helpful to improve products and services and to build new products and services based on user interactions, the type of audience, etc. This specific purpose does not include the development or improvement of user profiles and identifiers.
Content presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type, or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times a video or an article is presented to you).
With your acceptance, your precise location (within a radius of less than 500 metres) may be used in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
With your acceptance, certain characteristics specific to your device might be requested and used to distinguish it from other devices (such as the installed fonts or plugins, the resolution of your screen) in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Your data can be used to monitor for and prevent unusual and possibly fraudulent activity (for example, regarding advertising, ad clicks by bots), and ensure systems and processes work properly and securely. It can also be used to correct any problems you, the publisher or the advertiser may encounter in the delivery of content and ads and in your interaction with them.
Certain information (like an IP address or device capabilities) is used to ensure the technical compatibility of the content or advertising, and to facilitate the transmission of the content or ad to your device.
Information about your activity on this service may be matched and combined with other information relating to you and originating from various sources (for instance your activity on a separate online service, your use of a loyalty card in-store, or your answers to a survey), in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
In support of the purposes explained in this notice, your device might be considered as likely linked to other devices that belong to you or your household (for instance because you are logged in to the same service on both your phone and your computer, or because you may use the same Internet connection on both devices).
Your device might be distinguished from other devices based on information it automatically sends when accessing the Internet (for instance, the IP address of your Internet connection or the type of browser you are using) in support of the purposes exposed in this notice.
The choices you make regarding the purposes and entities listed in this notice are saved and made available to those entities in the form of digital signals (such as a string of characters). This is necessary in order to enable both this service and those entities to respect such choices.
have your say