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Ryanair pilots' strike to take place on Friday of August bank holiday weekend

This morning, Ryanair warned of possible redundancies this winter, partly due to the ongoing strike action.

IRISH-BASED RYANAIR pilots have said they will strike for a fourth day, next Friday 3 August.

The union Fórsa warned further strike action would follow later into August unless the company “changed tack” and “negotiated in good faith” on issues around base transfers and related matters.

This morning, Ryanair announced plans to cut 20% of its Irish-based fleet this winter, and cited the ongoing strikes.

In a statement, the union said that Ryanair’s comments this morning were “an attempt to put pressure on its employees”.

This action from Ryanair was a “provocative gesture” likely to “harden pilots’ resolve”, Fórsa said, adding that it had escalated the dispute and demonstrated an unwillingness from the company to engage with unions “in good faith”.

The union claimed that it had written to Ryanair last Friday 20 July to Ryanair to say it was available for negotiations but that there has still not been any response to this.

Ryanair said this morning that protective notice was issued to over 100 pilots and 200 cabin crew at the low-cost airline, a decision the company says is partly down to ongoing strike action by pilots.

Protective notice is a term that is regularly used in redundancy situations, although it has no legal basis.

Ryanair’s chief operating officer, Peter Bellew said the company regretted the move, but said the airline is operating in a market where future bookings have weakened because of “rolling strikes by Irish pilots”.

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    Mute Andrew Matheson
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:13 PM

    Negative equity, high taxes, stealth taxes, higher fuel costs, high interest rates, insurance rates etc.

    It’s not just mortgages, all of our take home pay has decreased over the last 7 years, even with any pay rises you still lose out quick smart to the taxman.

    Everything has gone up in price so how can people be expected to save when their income hasn’t increased. The money has to come from somewhere.

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    Mute TheIrishBrain
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:33 PM

    Andrew, Negative equity is a temporary thing, But the rest I agree 100% with you, Plus Car Tax is crazy and should be paid on fuel at the pumps.

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    Mute Paul Roche
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:47 PM

    Negative equity is a temporary thing?
    Go on – explain.

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    Mute nialls
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    Apr 7th 2014, 1:38 PM

    Yes please do. Do you know something we don’t? Is my house in rural Ireland guaranteed to double in value which is what I need to get back to break even point

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    Mute Thomas Dooly
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    Apr 7th 2014, 1:55 PM

    Hold on,nialls ,just hold on , it’s temporary ;)

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    Mute GATHERINGYOURMONEY14
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    Apr 8th 2014, 12:56 AM

    Spot on Andrew

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    Mute david garland
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:13 PM

    I’m a Taxi Driver in Dublin and the only people going out on a regular basis are the over 50′s and the 18 to 30 year olds.. The rest of us are been crippled with high mortgages/rents and the costs of childcare..

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    Mute Begrudgy
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:52 PM

    Thats the way its always been.

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    Mute david garland
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    Apr 7th 2014, 1:37 PM

    No it hasn’t.. Sure years ago big families could get by with just the Father working and the Mother could stay at home and bring up the kids.. They could still get out at the weekends for a few drinks and go away on a holiday in the summer.These days a couple both working with no children are struggling to get by.. The Government and the banks figured out a long time ago that if they cripple us with debt and taxes they have us screwed till the day we die.. Especially the poor unfortunates who took out 30 year 100% mortgages on apartments worth a fraction of the price nowadays..

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    Mute Paul Corrigan
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    Apr 7th 2014, 1:41 PM

    What sort of lifestyle do you expect as a Taxi Driver?

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    Mute david garland
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    Apr 7th 2014, 2:44 PM

    Are you telling me that just because I drive a Taxi I’m not entitled to a few pints once a week and a holiday in the summer? Most people these days work their arses off and have nothing to show for it.. These days the only ones going on holidays and going out a few days a week are families on welfare payments.. Us workers pay rents/mortgages, childcare,medical bills and if our washing machine breaks we can’t get a cheque off the releiving officer for a new one.. What profession do you reckon entitles one to a few pints and a holiday?

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    Mute Alan O'connor
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    Apr 7th 2014, 5:28 PM

    “the poor unfortunates who took out 30 year 100% mortgages ”

    Are you actually kidding me?

    They have NO ONE to blame but themselves. As greedy as the bankers who sold them these lemons.

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    Mute Donal Buckley
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    Apr 7th 2014, 8:20 PM

    “My Problems are my Parents’ Fault:”

    The under50s used to be identified as family couples, children, mortgages and the responsibilities attached were theirs.

    A new thinking has emerged to blame the younger and older citizens .

    How enlightened that approach is and constructive …blame the other age groups instead of taking personal responsibility for one’s own existence.

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    Mute Dwayne Jordan
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    Apr 7th 2014, 9:51 PM

    Alan what a stupid, ignorant comment to come out with!

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    Mute GATHERINGYOURMONEY14
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    Apr 8th 2014, 1:03 AM

    Well said David.
    Don’t heed the journal’s resident trolls.
    I’d say there’s about 1 of them with multiple accounts.
    Their hobbies are gravedancing on financially distressed families and living with mammy.
    “Such a noble life they live”
    When they look back over their lives on their death bed, such stories they will be able to tell to the nurse who changes their bed pan in their lonely cell.

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    Mute Mindfulirish
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:28 PM

    Only today in the papers 1 article about Sean Dunne’s sons developing a site in New York while our citizens take the pain of bailing these guys out. They carry in like the bankers — nothing changes. Considering the bankers were in bed with the developers how come they have any money left to develope any site never mind New York ? Did Richie Boucher chase these guys to the ends of the earh like he is chasing ordinary people? I think now as there seems to be no end to their money. Other developers are exactly the same — buying up land and property now with money no issue. We bailed out these money junkies and the banks. When will they pay back?

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    Mute david garland
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:41 PM

    It’s absolutely disgusting what happened in this Country.. I only had one of the “Maple Ten” in my Taxi a few weeks back. I picked him up from the Courts and this lad didn’t have a care in the world.. These lads were let away with murder because their all mates with the politicians and the Bankers.. I honestly can’t wait for the local FG/labour TD to knock my door in the next few months.. I’m just glad guns aren’t legal in this Country..

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    Mute Michael Vines
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    Apr 7th 2014, 1:32 PM

    Never

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    Mute Dee4
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:16 PM

    and the obvious solution according to gubberment behaviour is to increase taxes!

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    Mute me so harney
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:39 PM

    Anyone who takes a fixed rate mortgage ends up paying more over the term than if they had stayed on a variable.

    You pay for the privilege of certainty. Worryingly, interest rates for trackers are at an all time low – there will be serious issues when the ECB starts ratcheting up the rates.

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    Mute Joe Simpson
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:56 PM

    That won’t be anytime soon

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    Mute Connaughtabu
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    Apr 7th 2014, 2:43 PM

    I took out a 5 yr fixed in 2011 @3.7%, variable rates were running at about 2.5-3%. Now, you would be lucky to get a variable rate mortgage under 4% and given your circumstances, 4.5% is more likely. Maybe I will lose out a little and maybe I won’t – but I am happy I chose the fixed interest option.

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    Mute Ian Carty
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    Apr 7th 2014, 1:53 PM

    I got loads of pay cuts not to mention the increasing cost of living. This Govt promised us changes and what did they do : they rewarded tax evading companies while giving 2 fingers to struggling homeowners who want to pay their mortgage. Sh1t corrupt run by crooks

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:04 PM

    I am thinkink that negative equity is the greater pain for people who can’t repay their mortgages.

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    Mute GATHERINGYOURMONEY14
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    Apr 8th 2014, 12:53 AM

    The hundred billion of negative equity in our criminal joke-banks that the Irish people were forced to pay or the 50% negative equity in people’s homes??

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    Mute ollie
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    Apr 7th 2014, 1:01 PM

    After I pay my 3 mortgages I have nothing left. It’s unfair.

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    Mute Markonline
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    Apr 7th 2014, 3:00 PM

    How about those three houses?

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    Mute Derpy derp
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:05 PM

    Loss about them. How could all these people think they could borrow exorbitant sums of money and expect to live care free for the rest of their lives? The worst thing about my generation is that we will have to pay the price of your greed and excess, not that any of them care about anybody but themselves. Go cry to your precious nanny state and let then tell you everything will be ok.

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    Mute dB O'Neill
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:09 PM

    Good man derp, living up to your name!

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    Mute Derpy derp
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    Apr 7th 2014, 1:08 PM

    Thanks I guess

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    Mute c collins
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    Apr 7th 2014, 3:09 PM

    Derp , your anger would be much better directed at the property developers who have either walked away from all their debts or have had more than half their debt written off via Nama , a salary paid to them and kept in business . The majority of people in negative equity simply bought a family home , have had no debt write off and have had to endure ( variable ) interest rate hikes as well as paying the increased taxes same as you . Is it too much to expect a modern economy to managed properly and not driven over a cliff by sheer ineptitude of those in charge and those in the golden circle . Some empathy for the majority struggling through would be nice , it may be reciprocated some day when you’re in trouble

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    Mute ollie
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    Apr 7th 2014, 9:36 PM

    Derpy, your generation are screwed because of your sense of entitlement. Where’s my free college education? Where’s my cheap beer?

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    Mute Ben Gunn
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:17 PM

    This is just reverting to the long term trend. The normal life cycle shows that we start saving young, move into debt when we set up independent living, carrying growing that debt as we create a family and that family moves through it’s maximum cost profile. Then the family leaves home, we have reduced our mortgage and other credit and our income max’s out so we start to save again, usually in our mid fifties. This has been the pattern at least for the last forty years with occasional blips for inflation and boom/bust.
    Nice to see things getting back to normal.

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    Mute Keith Wizzy
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    Apr 7th 2014, 2:42 PM

    Most definitely. I received an impending notice of eviction last week by registered post. I challenged it and advised them proactively of my best intentions to pay and how they will get nothing if I just hand back the keys as offered and how much more it will cost them if I pursue my lack of interest in becoming homeless in court. Appears they are attempting to compromise this week :)

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    Mute Riff Rafferty
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    Apr 7th 2014, 1:47 PM

    This is what happens when our banks don’t pass on rate cuts from the ECB.
    Only last week the ECB were commenting that inflation was under target.
    Out next crisis will be a pensions on a scale we can’t comprehend as our college grads are quite rightly leaving Ireland in droves to gain meaningful employment. This will lead to a pensions finding gap.

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    Mute Joe Simpson
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    Apr 7th 2014, 1:59 PM

    They’ll be no crisis. The pension age will just increase till the worker pensioner ratios are right. Not so long ago you needed to be 70. I’d say in the 50 years it might be pushed to 75 as we live longer. Going into the future the civil service are also becoming less of a golden ticket but still very generous.

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:41 PM

    How on earth did we manage when interest rates were above 8% obviously then we saved for the deposit and only borrowed the minimum amount, while making do with secondhand furniture until we could afford to replace it.

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    Mute Neal Ireland
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:58 PM

    8% was quite a bit more manageable when mortgages were £45k rather than €300k.

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    Mute ollie
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    Apr 7th 2014, 1:03 PM

    Chris, we took out 20 year mortgages. We saved 20% deposit. We borrowed 2.5 times our salary.

    We weren’t duped by Bertie Ahern and Brian Lenihan.

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    Mute Joe Simpson
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    Apr 7th 2014, 1:06 PM

    Back then you could buy a house in Dublin for 30k in todays money, there no comparison. Also them savings on deposit would grow alot quicker @ 8% then compared to the 1% interest with DIRT and PSRI taking near 50% of any return today. You need two good wages to service a mortgage now, in the 70′s,80′s one average wage would do. Housing wise you had it easy.

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    Mute Peter Carroll
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    Apr 7th 2014, 2:40 PM

    Also everyone is forgetting that the b&stards did away with being able to claim tax relief on the interest portion of your mortage …. Screwed & screwed again

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    Mute ollie
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    Apr 7th 2014, 9:34 PM

    Back then (late 80′s), houses were 3 times average wage with interest rates @ 10%. Now houses are 5 times average wage with interest rates @ 4.3 %.
    Pretty much the same.

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    Mute ollie
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    Apr 7th 2014, 1:04 PM
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    Mute CZL
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    Apr 7th 2014, 1:38 PM

    Pretty irrelevant really looking back that far in the case of Ireland.

    Different Currency.
    Different Economic Structure.
    1970´s/1980´s Inflation

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    Mute Steve
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    Apr 7th 2014, 12:58 PM

    This will continue until the Irish obsession with property ownership ends.

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    Mute Joe Simpson
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    Apr 7th 2014, 5:23 PM

    i guess when your a pensioner and not working you need somewhere to stay rather than having to pay rent on a minimal pension

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    Mute dave mike dolan
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    Apr 7th 2014, 3:08 PM

    Everyone blambing everyone else for their own stupidity, I no sympathy I just laugh at these clowns who think that they are somehow a victim cause their gambling went wrong.

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    Mute dave mike dolan
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    Apr 7th 2014, 3:06 PM

    Don’t get a mortgage then you numpties

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    Mute ÉiRed
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    Apr 7th 2014, 2:29 PM

    I’m hoping to buy my home in the next few weeks. Is it even worth it?

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    Mute Ian Carty
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    Apr 7th 2014, 4:37 PM

    Go for it. Landlords (are known) will no doubt cause hardship on tenants. Get your place and eventually you will own it or your kids will

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    Mute Donal Buckley
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    Apr 7th 2014, 8:01 PM

    What rates are on offer with this report.
    Bad rates will justify low investments.
    Try competitive rates offers.
    Overdraft rates pushing 14%
    Saving rates 1.5 % and Dirty.
    Lend some money to friends @3% and pay no dirty tax
    DIRT on savings which have been taxed at source is double taxation or extortion.
    Who will get involved with such exploitation…

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