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ONE-TIME BILLIONAIRE SEÁN Quinn has agreed to hand over €10,000 a year from his future earnings after he comes out of bankruptcy.
Quinn today agreed to the court order, which will last for the next two years, after the official overseeing his bankruptcy asked for the income to be forfeit.
The fallen tycoon, once counted as the richest man across the island of Ireland, was reportedly making a return to his former concrete and building materials business as a consultant.
A consortium of “old bondholders” in the former Quinn Group stepped in to help fund a circa-€100 million buyback of the operations, which the Aventas Group had claimed from the collapsed empire.
Several former Quinn Group executives were also re-installed as part of the deal.
Quinn, who will officially step out of bankruptcy on Friday, went under in January 2012 with debts of over €2 billion.
He was later jailed for nine weeks for contempt of court over a plot to keep €500 million in property out of the hands of creditors.
No formal offers from locals
Meanwhile, Aventas issued a statement which said it had received no credible bids to keep Quinn’s Derrylin glass factory in local hands in response to “misleading and inaccurate information” circulating around the border region.
Quinn Glass was rebranded as Encirc early last year, while the Quinn Group was renamed Aventas in 2013 after creditors including Anglo Irish Bank, later the taxpayer-owned Irish Bank Resolution Corporation, took over the business.
Aventas has since been the target of arson and other attacks after local angst over the ousting of the former billionaire and his lieutenants.
The company said in a statement it had received five “formal fully-funded bids” for the Encirc business and its plants in Northern Ireland and Cheshire in the UK, and it was in advanced talks with the preferred bidder.
Spanish firm Vidrala, which employs about 1,700 people and operates in five European markets, has been tipped as the leading contender with an offer of about €400 million.
Aventas said the preferred bidder already owned multiple plants across Europe but had no operations in Ireland or Britain, which was why Encirc was an important buy for the firm.
“Their stated intention is for Encirc to remain as a separate standalone subsidiary retaining its identity and autonomy,” it said.
It would be nice to get the post offices in on this on some level, to preserve or help preserve post offices in the local communities too, considering it is a social challenge
Post offices do offer loans up to € 1,000 ..
Let post offices die.
We’ll just send our post by carrier pigeon.
Those door to door moneylenders are parasites who bleed people dry. No one should use them.
anything that takes the business out of those hands, and provides a responsible approach for impecunious households
He’s ignoring all this united Ireland nonsense unlike Kenny and doing things that will actually help people. What’s he up to?
These payday loan companies are a scourge on society. They prey on the most socially vulnerable. Hopefully this works out. People are caught in a poverty trap and these lenders are the cause of it. Saying that, I have seen for myself that these lenders could be avoided if people cut down on alcohol and cigarettes. They can afford these but not to pay back the cu at a substantially lower interest rate.
If I was using payday lenders I’d be drinking and smoking too.
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I have asked people why they use them, and generally the response is that they have no choice. One person I know spent about €100 a week on fags and booze. They just couldn’t grasp the fact that they were being rode solid.
Or cut the tax on booze which unfairly hurts poor people more. It’s easier said than done to say just don’t drink or smoke but this can be a release for poor people. I take your point though.
I think the price of booze is fair enough as it is. Lowering the price may increase consumption and as a result leave some families just as poverty stricken, but also add mental health issues into the mix, and the effect on small children that are exposed to it.
They no that Philip but could have a bad credit rating or not have a bank account. Provident will give you a loan regardless of your credit rating at a much hire interest rate. Wouldn’t it be a good idea to limit the interest rate to under 100 percent. Theirs no way they still couldn’t make money.
They won’t lower the interests rates because they know that people have no other option. They are vermin.
You could regulate this buinensss and put legislation in place to have these companies not lending at above 90 percent interest. Its still quite high but 200 is extortion.
That’s true. But where do you draw the line. I’m sure they would try argue that the are free to charge what interest they like. It’s down to the individual whether they want to use the service or not.
Yes and thinking about it because of this scheme they are going to have too completely revise their interest rates for new customers. Id say there is panic in provident headquarters today.
And I hope they are panicking Vincent. Provident have made extortionate amounts of money from the vulnerable in Ireland over the last 80 years or however long it is that they have been around.
Patrick i fear you presume the economics model of the free actor is a reality, when it is not
Always borrow money from a Pessimist – They don`t expect it back…
Isn’t this what credit unions do anyway?
I’m a member of a Credit union and have used it for small loans, If i remember correctly I had to have been saving with them for 12 weeks before i could apply for a loan. A minimal standing order for savings soon builds up and and is handy if you are stuck for for a few quid unexpectedly.
Yes but with this you don’t have to have an account or wait long for the money if approved.
Is the social welfare payment used as security on these small loans? I think it is a great service. Anything that cuts the teeth of loan sharks has to be good.
Good but it will only work if the loan repayments are affordable. No point in handing out money to people who can’t really afford to pay back
Well that’s the idea of the scheme.
It’s targeting the kind of people who would use loan sharks presumably because they can’t easily get credit elsewhere. There a fine line to thread to ensure that you aren’t just giving money to people who are already living beyond their means
Presumably, as with microfinance loans elsewhere, and with credit union loans too, the application process for this is more personal than filling a form in online and more flexible in terms of repayment period and so on so I’d imagine they’d work though that with the applicant and see what is affordable and realistic to lend.
This scheme sounds like it’s designed to stop people repeatedly going back to the relieving officer and getting money. It sounds like one of the better ideas the government have come up with.
Handy money should only be meted out munzo to the developing classes who get paid by NAMArama to not ever bother to pay it back, whom in turn, flip it over to various vulture capitalists to kick off the cyclical feast of maximum occupancy!!
No it isn’t it’s to try and get access to people’s credit union accounts by the revenue
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I would like to think that these loans will be used productively and not to pay for Rihanna or Justin’s 21st Birthday and a load of clothes
What if that’s the parents dream to give their kid what most other kids get?
Leo specifically mentions the unemployed, but is this scheme also open for lower paid workers?
…ya know those people who actually get out of bed to EARN shit money, instead of sitting on their arse getting shit money handed to them
the impact of advertising, especially directed at children and integrated with films/media, seems such that parents are required to provide more expensive consumer items- and the alternative is that their children are marginalised or bullied, would that be correct?
So just subprime lending essentially. Need a new fridge? Buy second hand. Family occasion? Just pass. Need Christmas presents? Set a lower expectation and use the social welfare bonus.
If the banks aren’t willing Iend, then it’s because you are not suitable to borrow. How can someone on the social be able to make loan repayments with that money?
Subprime lending set the world on fire in 2008, and yes it was a problem caused by the big boys, banks and the wealthy, but that does not mean we allow the less well off to start subprime borrowing now. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and unfortunately it is the middle class picking up the tab for the repayments or defaults anyway.
Generally I’m a Leo fan, but he’s on a vote collecting rampage since the Dail went into recess.
if the banks won’t lend to you, its because the banks dont need you to make their profits, dont presume they operate by some immutable natural laws
The reason these people are relying on money lenders is because they are known to be a very bad credit risk. Giving money to these people as a “loan” is really more of a charitable act because you won’t get it back.
Maybe if usury was done a way with ie.high compound interest on relatively modest loans by greedy banks then they wouldn’t be a “very bad credit risk” in the first place.
People have poor credit profiles for a number of reasons. If they can’t access small amounts of credit after gaining it then how do they work their way back? If you’re going to unregulated moneylenders there’s a) no paper trail of you paying them back and b) a much higher interest rate making it harder.
If people with poor credit profiles can access small loans in their community they can build up their credit rating, learn to be more responsible with their money, build a relationship with their credit union who can assist them to do that and encourage them to save etc.
This is a hugely beneficial idea and I’m genuinely surprised the government has come up with and are backing it. Well done.
I’m pretty sure there’s no Irish credit bureau check with a loan under 200 with the credit union, all they want to see is a history of regular saving with them.
The arrogance of you, ‘these people’. Any mention of the ones who bought the 500k house and had it repo’d, the 4×4 with all the trimmings? How bad a risk are ‘these’?
It’s taking directly out of their payment ?
money lenders AKA sharkes/Shnakes
Fantastic initiative. Though some here completely missed the fact that default is tiny at 4% before going on to say they’re a risk. Sure why let the facts get in the way…
Default rate is 4%. So we have fortune tellers administering the scheme too!
Leo and sound bites… Hardly a leadership challenge or election near ?
you cynic
If the government are really concerned about people needing money for things they will also increase the peoples’ ability to pay back the loans plus interest and not indebt the poorest people in society.
Why do I feel this is part of the neoliberal agenda.
Wow. Populist Rhetoric. And you said neoliberal too…
Good idea. Do it for students as well.
These sound like short term loans that the credit union already do. These have to be paid back in a year. At that suggested interest rate on the max loan of 2k people would need to pay back €42 a week. The one day turnaround is great, but the interest rate needs to be between 5 and 8%. This scheme would probably not extend the loan over 1 year.
Brilliant idea!
I wonder does he watch the thick of it?
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