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Senators start campaign to have a referendum on the Water Services Bill

Here’s what would have to happen to get it underway.

A PUSH IS on to have a referendum on the Water Services Bill.

Newly-appointed Senator Gerard Craughwell set forth his stall overnight, tweeting that a referendum is “the democratic thing to do right now” with regard to the Water Services Bill 2014.

He told TheJournal.ie that he made the decision as he was “disturbed by what I witnessed in the Seanad on Friday for 15-odd hours”. He said he felt the the Government was not going to accept any amendments on the Water Services Bill.

“The Government is unwilling to listen to the lower house. It seems totally unwilling to listen to the Seanad. This leaves us in the position that the bill will be rammed through in a similar way to how it was 12 months ago. The bill is not fit for purpose,” claimed Craughwell.

He sees this referendum as an alternative, by putting the bill to the people.

Craughwell said that there are “many decent members of the Oireachtas trapped” by the bill.

But he said he was concerned that some people may think that a referendum will stop water charges, when in fact it could only end the current legislation.

Not long after Craughwell’s morning tweets, Sinn Féin Senator David Cullinane announced that his party will be seeking to petition the President not to sign the Water Services Bill into law if it is passed in both the Dáil and Seanad.

Craughwell described Sinn Féin as having “hijacked” his referendum idea, calling it unhelpful.

The President would be required to convene the Council of State to consider the bill under Article 27 of the Constitution if one third of the Dáil, and a majority of Senators, sign a petition of concern after the bill has been passed by both Houses of the Oireachtas.

That means 30 Senators and 56 TDs signing the petition.

However, as Gavan Reilly of Today FM, and formerly of this parish, pointed out:

Craughwell said that he does not see the bill being defeated in the Seanad, but said the idea of the referendum is to “get this into the public domain as an alternative to what is going on in Leinster House”.

He said if the petition is not legally binding, “there’s only one other way – that we just go and sit outside the Phoenix Park until such a time as the President says [a referendum will be held]“.

He is in the process of contacting every TD and Senator to ask if they will join him.

Senator Cullinane said “if both Houses of the Oireachtas pass the Water Services Bill this week we will then seek to petition the President under Article 27 of the Constitution.”

He claimed the party has the petition “ready to go” and is inviting all Oireachtas members who are genuinely opposed to domestic water charges to support this action.

Senator John Crowne pledged his support for the petition:

Bord Gais

Meanwhile, Bord Gáis questioned the need for Irish Water’s €540m metering programme as a pre-requisite to charging users for water.

That’s according to RTÉ show This Week, which saw documents relating to Bord Gáis’s concerns. A memo of a meeting on 11 May 2012 showed that officials in the Environment Department told Bord Gáis that it was the “Government’s wishes” that metering had to be in place before billing kicked in.

An alternative to metering would have been a flat or assessed charge per household.

Sinn Féin TD Brian Stanley has called on Minister Alan Kelly to explain why Bord Gáis’s advice wasn’t followed.

Read: The Seanad debated the Water Services Bill well into the wee hours>

Read: Anti-water charge protests in Dublin and Donegal>

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    May 9th 2014, 8:40 PM

    Meanwhile, the fatcat bond holders were compensated fully. Didn’t happen though when ordinary working men and women were persuaded by Mary O Rourke to beg borrow or steal to buy shares in Eircom…..

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    May 9th 2014, 10:31 PM

    You may be sure that the majority of the managers and higher level workers lost out on nothing . As usual Mulvey, an ex trade union leader, is a disgrace !

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    May 9th 2014, 8:46 PM

    Bloody whingers they were happy when the bank was doing well.
    They were happy when the bonuses were coming in.
    Lucky to be getting anything should only be statutory and be glad of it.

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    May 9th 2014, 8:45 PM

    Frankly, they suffer because they are playing golf with the wrong crowd

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    May 9th 2014, 8:47 PM

    My heart bleeds

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    May 9th 2014, 9:40 PM

    No bank in receipt of state funds should have been allowed to offer anything beyond statutory redundancy. Maybe not a reflection on the person but the company was dead. I await with interest to see where John Moran pops up now he has allowed recapitalisation of banks.

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    May 9th 2014, 10:25 PM

    Staff who resigned not entitled to redundancy… Shock Horror

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    May 9th 2014, 8:52 PM

    my dad got his mortgage from anglo when it was a fella in an office.he got €4000 to build the house in dublin, and in the height the house was worth €650,000. in walkinstown. mental stuff

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    May 9th 2014, 9:46 PM

    But he built it in the rare old times yeah ?

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    May 9th 2014, 10:08 PM

    Anglo Irish Bank never offered residential mortgages

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    May 9th 2014, 10:18 PM

    rare old times is right mate. even in walkintown… the house is big and had an extension with utility room and jax. it really makes ye remember how crazy it all was

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    May 10th 2014, 2:19 AM

    Maybe I’m Missing something, but if you leave a job for a better offer, even if the company you work for is in trouble, you are not entitled to any redundancy. How is this even an issue for reporting in the media????

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    May 9th 2014, 10:26 PM

    I have no sympathy for Anglo staff they did a crap job building a busted bank, paid themselves well and the country was left holding a bill for their collective stupidity. Just suck it up the same as contractors who never got paid or small business that went bust. I shared a lift with a stupid girl who had worked for Anglo and she could see no connection with the loss of services in society and her former company’s bad business decisions

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    May 9th 2014, 10:05 PM

    Comments closed for Seanie et pals court case-but open for actual current staff working 9-5 same as u-shame on you Journal

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    May 9th 2014, 9:47 PM

    Good. Finally a little bit of justice. It appears the country is slowly releasing its head from its anoos

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    May 10th 2014, 2:21 AM

    Maybe I’m Missing something, but if you leave a job for a better offer, especially if the company you work for is in trouble, you’re not entitled to reduntancy!!!!!!

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    May 10th 2014, 12:24 AM

    “The reason for this, according to the IBOA, is because creditors of the IBRC could legally pursue payments made to those who left early.”

    Excellent. They can go after Fitzpatrick then, biggest payout in one person right there.

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    May 9th 2014, 10:28 PM

    The lapdogs for the leprechauns who ruined the country,let them starve,call it the Anglo famine.

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