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'We are failing these children spectacularly': Row over drug with 'exorbitant' cost rumbles on

Negotiations, and clashes, over the price of Spinraza are ongoing behind the scenes.

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PARENTS OF CHILDREN with a rare genetic condition have called for negotiations between the HSE and a pharmaceutical company over access to a drug to be sped up.

Last month, the HSE confirmed that it would not reimburse Spinraza (also known as Nusinersen) at its current price. 

The organisation said the medication would cost more than €20 million over a five-year period – €600,000 per patient for the first year and €380,000 per patient per year thereafter. 

Biogen, the company which makes Spinraza, said these figures are out of date but, when asked by TheJournal.ie to elaborate, said it “cannot comment on pricing”. 

Twenty-six children in Ireland who have Spinal Muscular Atrophy (SMA), a rare and life-limiting muscle-wasting condition, could benefit from Spinraza. 

Fiona Bailey, whose son Sam has SMA, said it is “heartbreaking” and “frustrating” for parents to watch protracted negotiations while their children become weaker.

Twenty-five of the 28 countries in the European Union have granted access to the medication, except Ireland, the UK (bar Scotland) and Estonia.

SMA Ireland has called on the HSE to reverse its decision; and held a protest outside Leinster House on 28 February.

Negotiations, and clashes, over pricing are ongoing behind the scenes. Biogen has hit out at the process used by the National Centre for Pharmacoeconomics (NCPE) to assess the cost-effectiveness of medication.

In turn, the NCPE’s Director, Professor Michael Barry, sharply criticised the “exorbitant” prices charged by pharmaceutical companies for certain medication, such as Spinraza.

In December 2017, the NCPE did not recommend the reimbursement of Spinraza as it was not deemed “cost-effective”. Its estimated the cost at that time was €37.88 million over five years.

As well as the cost, the HSE also cited the “limitations of the current evidence on clinical effectiveness” of Spinraza when announcing its decision not to reimburse the drug last month.

‘Urgent reform needed’  

Biogen has criticised the process used by the NCPE in assessing medication. A spokesperson said: “In SMA there are challenges associated with producing the type of data that the NCPE need to see when reviewing Nusinersen in a general health technology assessment process to determine cost-effectiveness.

“For example, measuring quality of life in a young paediatric population is very difficult, and yet it is a major determining factor of cost-effectiveness in the NCPE process.”

The spokesperson said other challenges “include the uncertainty around long-term health outcomes that inevitably come with a significant therapeutic advancement”.

While the data we have so far is extremely compelling, there are only so many years of data available and limited comparators, which makes determining cost-effectiveness very difficult.

“In more specialised reimbursement methodologies, such as what is now available in Scotland, these kinds of factors are considered.”

Biogen has repeatedly called on the HSE to “urgently reform the appraisal process for orphan medicines like Nusinersen – to allow a greater degree of flexibility for the assessment of such treatment options”.

‘An easy target’ 

When asked about Biogen’s comments, Professor Barry defended the process used by the NCPE, saying the company’s statement is “typical of what we have come to expect from the pharmaceutical industry here in Ireland”.

He told TheJournal.ie the assessment process is “an easy target for the industry” and “an excuse for not dealing with the fundamental problem of exorbitant pricing of medicines that frequently add little in terms of health outcomes”.

“The failure to reimburse these extremely high-cost drugs is not due to the assessment process, it is due to a funding issue. One of the main purposes of the assessment process is to support the HSE in its discussions and negotiations with the pharmaceutical companies.

I would argue that it is not the assessment process that should be “urgently reformed” but the unrealistic pricing strategies being practiced by the pharmaceutical industry. There is a very clear way to get drugs reimbursed in Ireland and that is to price them fairly.

Barry said we often hear the industry talk about pricing but “rarely about value”.

The reality is that many of the new expensive medicines offer little in terms of health outcomes. In many cases we would be far better off placing our scarce healthcare resources into other areas of the health service like looking after our elderly patients, investing in mental health and disabilities not to mention investing in general practice.

The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) in the UK met again last week to discuss reimbursing Spinraza. A decision is expected next month. 

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Barry added that highlighting what is going on in other countries is “also of limited value”.

“I have not heard anyone discuss the Orkambi situation in England, where reimbursement is still not approved almost two years after the drug was reimbursed in Ireland.

In addition, the concept that drugs should be reimbursed in Ireland just because they are reimbursed elsewhere is a flawed argument as it does not consider value of the drug or the differences in healthcare systems across Europe, the differing abilities to pay and, crucially, the complete absence of transparency of the various ‘deals’ being done in the different countries.

Barry said the problem is “a direct result of pharma pricing strategies”, adding: “The answer is in their own hands.”

Last month Barry told the Sunday Business Post the HSE had already “almost exhausted” the available funding for new drugs for the whole of 2019.

‘The weakest children in Ireland’ 

About one in 11,000 babies are affected by SMA – a debilitating disease that causes progressive muscle weakness and loss of movement due to muscle wasting. 

SMA is the number one genetic cause of death of infants and is in the same family as motor neurone disease.

The most common form of the disease is 5q SMA, which has four different types: 1, 2, 3 and 4– based on age of onset and the highest physical milestone achieved. Type 1 is the most severe form of SMA and accounts for between 50–70% of cases of childhood onset SMA. About 95% of children with Type 1 who are untreated die before the age of two. 

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Children who have been granted access to Spinraza,  have generally responded well, with some gaining strength and motors skills and reaching milestones previously thought impossible. The medication is delivered through the lower back via a lumbar puncture. 

Sam Bailey is one of the 26 children who could benefit from the drug; he has SMA Type 2. His mother Fiona is among the parents who have been campaigning for access to Spinraza. She gave an impassioned speech at the recent rally outside Leinster House.

Speaking to TheJournal.ie, Fiona said waiting for a decision while negotiations go on behind the scenes is “heartbreaking”.

“Twenty-five other countries [in the EU] granted access to Spinraza, some as long as a year ago.

“The details are up to Biogen and the NCPE to hammer out. Our lives are full with trying to contain this disease and keep out children pain-free.”

Fiona said she’d “move over [to Scotland] in the morning if Sam could get the drug” but that it isn’t available to people from other countries.

We’re part of the EU, how can we be any different? To me it’s nonsensical, our kids are not getting same treatment as kids in other countries … Our country is failing these children spectacularly.

Parents in Ireland are keeping a close eye on Spinraza negotiations in the UK. Two babies and a teenager have died since the start of the campaign there. “Is that what’s going to happen in Ireland? It’s just terrifying for parents,” Fiona said.

Sam and the other 25 kids are the most vulnerable kids in the country – they can’t do anything for themselves, they need 24-hour care.

She said families “will be back outside the gates of the Dáil” if they need to be but she hopes the situation will be resolved soon.

“It’s terrible to have to put our children through that – children in wheelchairs outside Leinster House, literally begging for their lives.”

‘It’s a miracle he’s still alive’

Sam celebrated his ninth birthday last Wednesday. Fiona said her son is “the same as any other kid” and “was delighted with himself” on the day. However, he is aware of what is going on.

Sam will not see his teenage years if he doesn’t get Spinraza, the fact he’s here today is actually a miracle.

“He was borderline Type 1 at diagnosis, those children don’t normally see their second birthday.

“One chest infection could put Sam in hospital, could put him in ICU. If he gets sick, his life hangs in the balance – he’s one of the most severe sufferers of Type 2 in the country.”

IMG_1727 The Bailey family at Sam's ninth birthday party during the week. Fiona Bailey Fiona Bailey

Fiona said she is obviously aware that Spinraza is an expensive drug but pointed out that so is a spell in ICU or full-time care, which would need to be provided if “God forbid, anything happened me or Paul (Sam’s father)”.

She said getting access to Spinraza would not only be life-changing for Sam but for the whole family. “Sarah and Kayla (his sisters, who are about to turn three and seven) are watching him get weaker, they’re seeking reassurances too,” she said.

“He is losing strength every single month, every single week.”

‘Very vulnerable group’ 

When asked about the ongoing negotiations, a spokesperson for the HSE said “it would be inappropriate to comment” beyond its recent statement until the process is complete.

In its statement last month the HSE said it “regrets” that it has to date been unable to come to an agreement with Biogen. 

IMG_1548 Sarah, Sam and Kayla Bailey at Dublin Zoo Fiona Bailey Fiona Bailey

The HSE said when assessing Spinraza, the organisation’s Drugs Group focused on two areas: reviewing the evidence of the clinical effectiveness of drug (the benefits for patients undergoing clinical trials) and the cost-effectiveness of the drug. 

“While the HSE is anxious to provide all possible support to this very vulnerable group of patients and those who care for them, the decision reached by the Leadership Team concurs with the recommendation of the Drugs Group, which is that reimbursement could not be approved at the price currently being charged by the pharmaceutical company,” the statement said. 

Under the requirements of the Health (Pricing and Supply of Medical Goods) Act 2013, Biogen has 28 days from the date of notification to respond or make representations to the HSE’s proposed decision.

More information about SMA and Spinraza can be read on SMA Ireland’s website.

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    Mute Sean Brennan
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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:28 PM

    A very poignant and emotional moment felt during the #Shineyourlight. Really brought it all home. RTE should follow up and repeat this image every day at 6 O’clock in place of the Angelus at least for the duration of the emergency. Stay safe all cool heads/clean hands.

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    Apr 11th 2020, 11:24 PM

    @Sean Brennan: what a brilliant suggestion!

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    Mute Gil Thelander
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    Apr 11th 2020, 11:32 PM

    @Sean Brennan: or they could use images from tonight during the angelus to keep everyone happy. Poignant is the only word for tonight alright. Stay safe

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:37 PM

    Seriously, not every item has to become a political issue.
    This is just a nice simple gesture of hope and solidarity.
    Let’s keep it that way. There are plenty of other threads to voice your discontent.

    Well done to my country. You have made me proud during these dark days.

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:41 PM

    @2thFairy: couldn’t agree with you more

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:56 PM

    @2thFairy: unfortunately it is being promoted/pushed by politicians. when was the last time you heard of a show of gratitude been advertised on the radio.

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    Apr 11th 2020, 10:46 PM

    @2thFairy: The politicians taking part and promoting themselves doing so have made it a political issue. Aside from that, literally everything is politics!

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    Apr 11th 2020, 11:10 PM

    @alphasully: We don’t usually find ourselves in situations such as this to have a history of advertising them! Has it struck you that perhaps these things are being advertised for those who are cocooning alone, have spoken to no one in days or weeks, don’t have social media and otherwise wouldn’t know about them? That they are advertised in order to try and ensure and maintain some sense of community and connectivity? Not everything has to be political or cynical. If you’ve nothing good to say, just say nothing

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    Mute Criostoir Mac Ranghaill
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    Apr 12th 2020, 12:31 AM

    @alphasully: Unfortunately the Coronavirus Situation is Mostly about the wonders of Good Nature / Deeds by Fine Gael Heads

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    Mute Agenda21
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    Apr 12th 2020, 2:32 AM

    @2thFairy: yes I couldn’t agree more, lets all stop criticising politicians and pretend we didn’t vote for FFG in the GE and then announce you will next time as they are doing a marvellous job.. NPHET are making all decisions apart from ports as Leo takes his orders from Brussels. Never forget how these people have behaved.

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:24 PM

    Brilliant idea but im sure nurses would prefer to be paid properly

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:27 PM

    @Ciaran Goggins: this was for everyone or for whoever you are thinking of at the time. It is a light for hope.

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:40 PM

    @Ciaran Goggins: I’m sure the dead would prefer to be alive too.

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    Mute Gavin Mckenna
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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:43 PM

    @Ciaran Goggins: Ah go on outta that for Gods sake. Always one begrudger. Citizens showing SOLIDARITY has nothing to with how they’re paid. Nowt good to say? Say nothing so. Good boy.

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    Apr 12th 2020, 12:26 AM

    @Ciaran Goggins: Shut up Ciaran.

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    Apr 12th 2020, 1:25 AM

    @Ciaran Goggins: or even be supplied with adequate ppe

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:36 PM

    What a heap of misery laden doom mongers on here.

    For once could ye not just scroll on and keep the moaning and whinging to yourselves. My whole road is lit up as a mark of respect to the dead, the ill and the frontline workers.

    It looks beautiful and is a sign that a lot of people are sparing a thought. Just leave it at that and whinge somewhere else for once in your bloody lives.

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    Mute Colm Cork
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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:41 PM

    @Dara O’Brien: here here!! Well said

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    Apr 11th 2020, 10:44 PM

    @Dara O’Brien: well said lad my estate is also lit up

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    Mute Jo H
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    Apr 11th 2020, 11:06 PM

    @Dara O’Brien: Couldn’t agree more. So many people feel lonely and/or at a loss, this gesture of solidarity harms no-one and may very well be of help to many. I can’t understand anyone going to the trouble of commenting negatively on it, but I guess there are always a few sadly

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    Mute Paula Mackie Senior
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    Apr 12th 2020, 9:04 AM

    @Dara O’Brien: spot on. It was a symbol of coming together.

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    Apr 11th 2020, 10:01 PM

    Congrats to Leo, Simon and Dr Holohan, they are doing a great job. Good article in the New York Times in how Ireland is handling the crisis

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    Apr 11th 2020, 10:54 PM

    @Brendan O’Donoghue: share the link plz

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    Apr 11th 2020, 11:24 PM

    @Brendan O’Donoghue: I can’t believe people think Ireland is doing well. The death rate per million population is no better than the USA. More action is needed. All arrivals on the island must be quarantined for two weeks. Until that happens, how can thing improve?

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    Apr 11th 2020, 11:29 PM

    @Tanks a Minion: stop it, and don’t be silly. read the facts only 8% of our infections are coming from people travelling.

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    Apr 11th 2020, 11:33 PM

    @Tanks a Minion: sock of this comment. Look at the deaths per million in Andorra and San Marino then have a think for yourself. The US has so far had 1,700 deaths today, increasing their deaths per million by 3. Our 33 increased our by 8. But if you want to go by per million stats then we’ve done 2,000 more tests per million than the US and 5,000 per million more than the US. But that’s not a good indicator for the reasons I’ve already stated.

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    Apr 11th 2020, 11:40 PM

    @James Rowan: it was more of how Leo raised from the ashes more than anything else. https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/world/europe/ireland-leo-varadkar-coronavirus.amp.html

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    Apr 12th 2020, 12:12 AM

    @James Rowan: thnx for reply.im not bashing leo,he is doing what he is told by cmo

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    Apr 12th 2020, 1:10 AM

    @Tanks a Minion: go away you fool

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    Apr 12th 2020, 2:11 AM

    @Brendan O’Donoghue: I see the wheels spinning!

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    Apr 12th 2020, 3:31 AM

    @Tanks a Minion: Eh the US are behind us in terms of the timeline, have a look at that same comparison in 2 to 3 weeks time.

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    Apr 12th 2020, 7:50 AM

    @meh: he’s correct
    It’s not your fault your are too stupid to underhand it
    Compare australia and their measures and stats vs us , maybe then you’ll understand the incompetence and miss management

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    Apr 12th 2020, 7:52 AM

    @Alan Byrne: ok so , you get it under control how do you maintain that? By quarantine of arrivals

    Look at australia understand their measures and stats , and this a country with 500k Chinese s students and torch flights from Wuhan.

    Maybe then you will grasp the miss management in ireland

    Or maybe you won’t and will continue to believe the same experts that told you on 10/3/2 no need to restrict nursing homes

    Or no need to control and quarantine Italian travel in late feb

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    Apr 12th 2020, 7:54 AM

    @Dave O’Keeffe: are you for your real ? You are being San Marino into it of course they have distorted numbers look at any OECD country with a population greater than 500k

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    Mute alphasully
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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:29 PM

    I’m sorry but these shows of solidarity appear too forced and not spontaneous. if we mean this then these shows of gratitude should be daily, not at the whims of politicians or persons or authority

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:33 PM

    @alphasully: Or even more practical – like donations to feedtheheroes.

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:34 PM

    @alphasully: any day that you want to show gratitude, feel free to do so.

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:36 PM

    @alphasully: social media egos, half wouldn’t do it if they couldn’t share online.

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    Mute Aidan
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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:50 PM

    @Mairead Jenkins: or here https://www.gofundme.com/f/protect-those-who-protect-us?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet

    Getting close to the target. The people running it have already done some great work.

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:53 PM

    @Pat O Brien: I do, personally. I just cant muster the same effort when we have ads on the radio for it. feels forced

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:55 PM

    @Mairead Jenkins: Another begrudger…And when donations are made it’ll be “It’s only a one off it’s not good enough” moan. TAKE A NIGHT OFF!

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    Mute Paula Mackie Senior
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    Apr 12th 2020, 9:11 AM

    @alphasully: stoppit. It was a lovely gesture. Neighbours came out to introduce themselves in some cases, offer help if needed. Not forced, you didn’t have to do anything, you could stay on your sofa and watch TV if that’s your desire. It was heart warming and anything that brings us together in these dark days has to be positive. Somebody has to think of it, put it out there and get us together. How else could it be spontaneous?

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    Mute Mark Edwards
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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:28 PM

    Those front line workers are amazing. I hope that the teacher’s and their unions don’t start messing about with the exams.

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:31 PM

    @Mark Edwards: Seriously? What on earth has this to do with #ShineYourLight ?

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:32 PM

    @Mark Edwards: that would be ‘teachers’!

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:34 PM

    @Mark Edwards: Havd a glass of water and go to bed Mark

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    Apr 12th 2020, 1:11 AM

    @Mark Edwards: I remember when I had my first drink too….. bless

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:43 PM

    Here’s a novel idea pay them what they deserve .. give them tax breaks on over time during this crisis.. lighting candles etc . Are all great but show the support from the top not just lip service and gestures as nice as they are ..

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:52 PM

    @John kavanagh: true but the ordinary person can’t grant that so it’s nice for people to show support in whatever way they can. If front line staff aren’t treated with more respect by the politicians in this country after this then they never will be. Let’s hope they will be, but at the moment it’s lovely to see every day people showing support in whatever way they can.

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    Apr 12th 2020, 2:14 AM

    @John kavanagh: 46 grand for a top level ICU nurse before tax and how much is a TD whose taken a career break from their teaching job getting???

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:58 PM

    Why don’t all you negative bucking fastards go and start your own little group and leave everybody else to get on with the job I hand

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    Apr 11th 2020, 11:12 PM

    @neil brown: if only!

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:44 PM

    Nice idea. But please be careful not to leave the room with it on. All it can take is a breeze and something gets lit.

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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:40 PM

    Sinéad ó Connor needs help not to be publicised on rte. Really poor and borderline offensive choice.

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    Mute Gavin Mckenna
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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:46 PM

    @Rob Duggan: Another doom & gloomer alive and well. Leave your negative toxic nonsense to yourself. It’s about solidarity. End or.

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    Apr 11th 2020, 10:03 PM

    @Rob Duggan: what are you on about her voice and song choice were perfect and moving. Poisonous negative idiots like you we can do without

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    Apr 11th 2020, 10:27 PM

    @Rob Duggan: what was offensive about her or her performance? Genuinely interested.

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    Apr 12th 2020, 5:01 AM

    @Rob Duggan: good man rob i hope your family are safe and well.

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    Apr 12th 2020, 9:32 AM

    @Rob Duggan: good God .. seriously? She was an excellent choice .

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    Apr 12th 2020, 8:20 PM

    @Rob Duggan:

    In 2017, Sinead O’Connor changed her name to Magda Davitt

    in 2018, she changed it to Shuhada’ Sadaqat

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    Mute Hospitality Workers Fighting Back
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    Apr 11th 2020, 10:02 PM

    Thank you also to the trade unions who have ensured HSE workers have decent pay and conditions. Time for hospitialty workers to follow the tireless and heroic example of these great people in joining a union.

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    Mute Sara Davis
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    Apr 12th 2020, 4:33 PM

    @Hospitality Workers Fighting Back: using this thread to promote membership for your union is shallow and totally inappropriate.

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    Mute Karen Delaney
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    Apr 11th 2020, 11:39 PM

    I wonder how many of the covidiots lit a light in their holiday homes today in solidarity. I’d bet all of them did but they have no insight into how their selfishness is exacerbating the situation.

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    Mute Mark O'Donohoe
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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:36 PM
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    Mute Ale Ceaser
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    Apr 11th 2020, 9:41 PM

    Good improvement on the original concept – ‘Clap for Carers’ in the UK. Going for three weeks there now, and is a huge morale booster.

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    Mute Freda Hanratty
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    Apr 11th 2020, 11:36 PM

    @Ale Ceaser: great, we’ll come on everybody, let’s make this a weekly thing. We still have a long road ahead of us, so let’s keep this going, thanking the frontline staff, and honouring all those who have passed and are still fighting this. And it will give us a focus to make it better and more of an impact every week. #ShineYourLight

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    Mute Eileen O'Sullivan
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    Apr 12th 2020, 2:15 AM

    @Ale Ceaser: if we hadn’t hollowed out the healthcare system our front lines staff wouldn’t have to be heroes. Just quoting a Dr btw.

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    Mute Eileen O'Sullivan
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    Apr 12th 2020, 2:22 AM

    I understand that people need hopexin a time when they feel scared.

    Our healthcare staff shouldn’t have to be heroes. The hollowed out healthcare system forces them into that role. The learning from this is to look after the workers that really are deserving respect like those keeping us healthy fed and the bins emptied. The melodramatic narrative of those who feel they are born to rule is nauseating in the face of the choices made previously to put them at risk.

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    Mute thomas patrick
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    Apr 12th 2020, 12:04 AM

    Light candles? There was a full blown rave in my estate. Socially distant of course

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    Mute Criostoir Mac Ranghaill
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    Apr 12th 2020, 10:58 AM

    @thomas patrick: Did Leo’s Black & Tans not pay a visit

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    Mute Donal Kehoe
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    Apr 11th 2020, 11:26 PM

    Let’s just make sure including our government officials that this continues even after this is all over

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    Mute Peter Clancy
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    Apr 12th 2020, 12:13 PM

    Disgusting to see so many Shinners hijacking the comments section with their usual whinging and moaning in an effort to steer the Cult Of Sinn Féin into power. SF disappeared once there was a crisis. Cowards. The political figures put in place by the Army Council have shown themselves up to be unsuited to any position of responsibility and decision making.

    Whinge. Moan. Whinge. Moan. Never offer a solution. The SF way.

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    Mute Criostoir Mac Ranghaill
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    Apr 12th 2020, 7:51 AM

    @Mick Early: Too True Mike
    All entry ports should have been on lockdown since day one ,only open for essential transport of goods and services. For all the years the government was in power they had no money to pay the pensioners their rightful pension or run the HSE Now they are encouraging and opening the way for Visitors/ Irish to flock into the country without paying much attention to health checks at point of entry.

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