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Updated at 5.15pm
COLUMNIST KEVIN MYERS won’t write for the Sunday Times again after a column he wrote about equal pay for women was branded as “sexist” and “anti-Semitic”.
The Sunday Times Ireland press office confirmed the decision to RTÉ News. Earlier today, the online version of the article was removed, and both editors of the British and Irish editions issued apologies.
The opinion piece, which appears in the Irish print edition, is critical of recent calls for equal pay for men and women in media organisations, after the BBC published its list of highest-paid stars and only one woman made the top 10.
In the article, which is entitled “Sorry, ladies – equal pay has to be earned”, Irish journalist Myers argues that men may get paid more for a variety of reasons:
Is it because men are more charismatic performers? Because they work harder? Because they are more driven? Possibly a bit of each.
In a later section, the article highlights that the two highest-paid female BBC presenters are Jewish.
It says: “I note that two of the best-paid women presenters in the BBC – Claudia Winkleman and Vanessa Feltz, with whose, no doubt, sterling work I am tragically unacquainted – are Jewish.
Good for them. Jews are not generally noted for their insistence on selling their talent for the lowest possible price, which is the most useful measure there is of inveterate, lost-with-all-hands stupidity.
The article goes on to speculate that Marian Finucane earns such a high salary for her RTÉ show because she may have a male agent.
Senior management at the Sunday Times sent an apology to the Campaign Against Antisemitism after it complained about the article.
Frank Fitzgibbon, editor of the Sunday Times in Ireland, said: “On behalf of the Sunday Times I apologise unreservedly for the offence caused by comments in a column written by Kevin Myers and published today in the Ireland edition of the Sunday Times.
It contained views that have caused considerable distress and upset to a number of people. As the editor of the Ireland edition I take full responsibility for this error of judgment. This newspaper abhors antisemitism and did not intend to cause offence to Jewish people.
The editor of the British edition of the Sunday Times Martin Ivens said the column was “unacceptable and should not have been published”.
The contents of the article, and the decision to publish it, have received a very poor reaction from commentators on Twitter.
Commentators said it was a “disgrace” that the piece had been published, while another pointed out that Claudia Winkleman has a regular column with the Sunday Times.
- With reporting from Gráinne Ní Aodha
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Didn’t an Irish tribe (the Dál Riata) invade Western Scotland (then occupied by the Picts) and conquer it? It was the Dál Riata that gave Scotland it’s name as they called their homelands in Ireland “Scotti”.
Yes I am a nerd.
Very true, the “Scots” is the name given to the invading native Irish by the Picts.
Not to mention the thousands of irish in the army of the British empire who helped to build,spread and maintain that empire and the irish who fled famine and persecution here only to go to America and persecute the native Americans.
” General O’Neill led a force of over one thousand men into Canadian territory near Fort Erie in Ontario. His invading army had some initial success, winning two engagements including the so-called Battle of Ridgeway with the loss of around ten fatalities (with a similar number on the Canadian side). O’Neill’s troops kept their discipline and local civilians were respected, as were Canadian prisoners of war. One soldier, Lance Corporal William Ellis, later wrote that: ‘the Fenians treatment of myself and the other prisoners was kind and considerate in the extreme’.”
http://www.theirishstory.com/2011/09/16/the-fenian-invasion-of-canada-1866/#.VMJ4eJGnxzR
Ireland, as a nation, hadn’t invaded anyone.
We don’t invade, we infest :p
Yes and it could be wrong but I thought I read somewhere that long long ago there were more people in Ireland than UK territory which lead to regular invasions of their lands.
Wasn’t St Patrick abducted from Wales as a child on one of those raids across the pond..
Indeed. And the reason the Dal Riata fled to Argyll in the first place was because they were coming under pressure from the Northern Ui Neill, who themselves were expanding their territory northwest out of Connacht. Around the same time, the Deisi Muman fled to and colonised parts of south Wales, coming from present day Waterford, and the Ui Liathain from present day Cork did the same in Cornwall and Devon.
And people from this island raided what is now known as GB for plunder and slaves.
You might want to mention it again, Exit…they still don’t get it.
We should all get together and invade Wales at some stage. Just for the craic
Ireland, as a nation, was part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain From 1801 to 1922. Lots of Invasions during that period. Lots of slavery as well until 1834.
Sorry mean’t northeast, or else they’d have been heading for Iceland.
People from this island already invaded Wales as well as Scotland and the Isle of Man. Many place names in Wales owe their origin to such invasions. Holyhead itself is a good example – in Welsh it reads Cerrig y Gwyddel which means Rocks of the Gaels.
We know Ben – the Catholics were the slaves here sure !
They didn’t have a vote at the time we call that period The Penal Laws – as probably did every subjugated colony of the british.
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Some good historical knowledge displayed here. In the end though the point still stands, Ireland, the State, has never invaded another territory. Bronze age tribal warfare hardly counts, and just because there were many Irish men in various British armies this does not mean their actions were done in our name. The fenians in Canada is probably the best example, but Canada was a UK dependency at the time and the goal was never to conquer that land, just to bloddy the nose of the British.
The Irish Constitution legally binds our armies and all our political efforts to peaceful negotiations in International affairs !
And we are constitutionally precluded from the Common European defence Policy !
Ireland finished with war after Collins was shot !
Pretty sure we sneakily invaded Australia over the last couple of years.
That was by accident though so it probably doesn’t count.
The nazi’s raised many regiments to fight for them in almost all of the countries they occupied, that doesn’t tarnish those nations or their people as many were unfortunately indoctrinated and brainwashed with the nazi ideology.
Same goes for Ireland and soldiers raised by the British occupation armies.
Ireland is lies, past (imagined) glories and present madnesses…..witness the attempts to promote another property bubble by a carefully disguised government of gombeen auctioneers…..No question of taxing the land bank holders to pay for it though…I wonder why??
Mentis,
The countries you talk about were fighting for their very lives against soviet bolshevik oppression, they were only too happy to help join the fight against marxist tyranny. Don’t believe the allies lies. It hasn’t changed their butchery in the world, or debt slavery, all brought to you by the victors of WW2.
Well, hark at Buzz Killington..
Apart from a plan to invade NI in the early 1970s under Lynch,does that count??
No Simon. You can’t invade your own territory, but you can liberate it.
Yes a Big Nerd but you leave me educated so a valuable nerd!
Jawohl Obercommandant. these untermenschen readers will never understand our cause.
I’m already there warming the place up for yous ;)
the latin Scotia was labeled by the romans as they considered Scots the name people as Ireland
Who weren’t called Picts until the Romans came calling. The Romans called them Picti, the Painted Ones, because of the woad tattoos, pictor being the Latin for painter.
Do you really think if we had any power in the world when empire building was still acceptable, we wouldn’t have been involved? Are you telling me Bertie Ahern or his ilk would have turned down the opportunity to make easy money via a nice invasion? come on.
Yes, Ireland was content with just enslaving and abusing its own people for decades.
Very well said
She’s wrong Ireland invaded and occupied Scotland in the 3rd century.
Which was recently televised on RTE in the documentery after Braveheart.
As so many Irish live abroad,I think we did invade some countries, but not in a nasty way.
Put an Irishman on the spit and you can always get another Irishman to turn him.
Still is.
Or is it we were too small and too poor to invade any countries?
We did not invade any country as far as I am aware but we did raid countries…..the most famous being St.Patrick from Wales.
No we are just crafty invaders
We’re talking about a couple of thousand years ago but Irish tribes invaded into the heart of England with some eventually settling there.
If you can get your hands on Strangers At Home (2009) by Murt Mac Garraidhe which looks at the history of the Irish people from around 4,000 BC onwards, it’s a fantastic read!
Hmm, didn’t history buffs find out St Patrick was more of a raider than a priest?
Tristan and Isolde tells the story of Tristan being taken as a slave by the Irish back when England wasn’t even called England
Thanks cowenwatch. I’m going to seek out that one. Another couple to read are The princes of Ireland and The rebels of Ireland. Both historical fiction. Great reads.
In 2006 were the richest nation in the western world……but thats the way with property bubbles invented by politicians.
I knew him well, a gas man but took his history serious. SNQ too.
The Irish raided western Britain, plundered it for slaves and booty and even colonised parts of it between the 4th and 8th centuries.
Not to mention Jack Charlton and Tony Cascarino and co.
Didn’t a few lads try to invade Canada at the end of the 19th century?
If it wasn’t for the Saxon, Normans, etc, English people would share the same Gaelic traits and language as ourselves. Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Cornwall in England and Brittany in north France all shared these Gaelic traits,and the very word ‘Britian’ is derived from a word like ‘Pritania’ (may not be spelled right) which actually means the Land of the Celts!
Not to mention Ireland was part of the British empire when it was galivanting across the world. There was plenty of innocent blood, from India to north America, on Irish hands!
her enda kenny moment
We fought on all sides in all wars, Island of Saints and Scholars me shiny metal butt.
Ah, well even before there was such a thing as the ‘British Empire’, the Irish leaders would have hired their armies out as mercenaries to other European warring tribes and their armies fighting in Europe!
Yes Jamie and that’s why we came over here, revenge mate, revenge lol
Gearóid,
Would now be a good time to mention the blood and slavery on arab hands, 100 million Africans, 1 million Europeans, or how about the blood on African hands, with Africans major players in the slave trade as well as raiding, killing and eating other Africans long before any European set foot in Africa? What does this mean for their immigration policies, or their right to remain as national peoples with mass-immigration intrusion?
We have new Xenotroll in our midst…
Yeah Scipio is more Pro-Israel / Anti-Israel’s enemies.. not really a general immigration scaremongerer. He must be on holidays following his exertions in recent weeks!
A Right Funny Man Diarmuid,
In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. Good troll Diarmuid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrujV0PG_7k
Fort Erie Ontario…the IRB. Peace loving canadians invaded by renegade American Irish under an IRB flag.
Canada beat them.
Sorry, don’t understand your argument. Are you an Irish speaker unused to English or are you an African struggling with our substitute but necessary / invaluable national language?? Perhaps you are an arabic speaker.
Nice bit of XeroxTrolling there Dermo!! ;~}
David, that was just a stag weekend that got out of hand. No harm done.
Credit
Ha, XeroxTrolling, must remember that. Pity only far-leftards are allowed troll here, people who oppose mass-immigration are deleted and banned.
Generally Nazi racial policy sympathisers are shot down. Just like 1945… no bad thing.
Eh, I’m pretty sure irish invaded parts of Wales and England a few times. In fairness I think England did go a bit OTT paying us back……
Feckin English no sense of humour
Yeah – sure all their best comedians have Irish Names or have written their best comedy ..
Most notable exception – Monty Python !
I attended one last July with a friend of mine. A disgrace…not one word of Irish, little or nothing about Irish history and nothing about Irish values.
Well I attended today’s one, there was Irish spoken, there was talk of our culture, our arts, our music, our language and our place in the world. There was reference made to our sports, GAA, rugby and soccer. There was words of community engagement. There was words about our cuisine and our heritage. It was a lovely ceremony today. Judge Mahon and Minister FitzGerald spoke eloquently and with passion.
I was there too, Jason. You’re lying. The ministers full speech will be posted on the departments website by Monday morning which will prove that you’re a liar.
Judge Mahon spoke Irish. He spoke of sport, music, culture. He spoke of community, he spoke of gaa and soccer. Athletics and food. Not a word of a lie is written.
I was there too. I heard the Judge talk about food, about running. Rugby and soccer. He mentioned Croke park and our sporting prowess. He even spoke off cricket. He spoke about language. He spoke about community and involvement. You didn’t pay much attention lad.
The full speech given will be made available online by Monday morning. You two will be proven to be spoofers. Not that it matters, as you don’t post under your real names. Easy to spoof anonymously on the internet.
That’s my real name. Click onto twitter and you’ll see it. And if you didn’t hear Judge Mahon greet people in Irish today and proceed to speak of sport and community and arts, you’ve a serious hearing or attention problem.
Ok so I did what you asked and clicked on your twitter and also on Exit Stage Lefts. Are you the same person? Or is it just coincidence that both of you are huge Israeli supporters, Manchester United fans and both have the exact same picture of a German pint in your photo collection?
Hmmmm. I think that you’re a serious spoofer.
But don’t you know Peter no need for Irish language, history etc, because as many on the extreme left will ask you…what is Irish culture or identity, what is Irish anyway? Every other nation can state they are this and that, but not us. Sure aren’t we are all the same, Irish are Nigerians, as good as Russians, as much the same as Chinese, exact same as Ethiopians. We’re all the same, all one race, only one race…the human race. Sure we all bleed red, in fact, let’s go the whole warm fuzzy feeling hog, we’re all the same, cats, dogs, Irish, Zimbabweans, Mexicans, Zebras, crocodiles…..WE ALL BLEED RED. We are all living creatures( I think spiders bleed yellow, so well, ye know…..8 leggers)
You didn’t hear the Irish tin whistle music today either I take it?
Wow, 2 beer drinking man utd fans! It’s Austrian beer and a red bull car from Salzburg btw.
Was Bono there – if he wasn’t then they aren’t really Irish if they weren’t blessed by McPhisto New Patron Saint of Ireland and Holland……
(relax – he was just due a bash !)
Any overtly FG paraphanalia at the ould ceremony ?
I think that every new citizen should get one of those plates that has his face on it that sold like hot cakes at some Blueshirt convention …he’d be like a queen then !
I’m specifically thinking of the q.o.e.
“A disgrace…not one word of Irish, little or nothing about Irish history and nothing about Irish values.”
Who gives a f**k?
If people want to come here, work, and generally be nice people, then let them. I don’t see they they should be forced to pretend to be interested in whatever “Irish values” are. Anyway most Irish people barely know their own history, and most Irish people barely know how to speak Irish. So why we should hold foreigners to a different set of standards is a complete mystery to me.
@WarningBeaconsofÉire
“We’re all the same, all one race, only one race…the human race. Sure we all bleed red, in fact, let’s go the whole warm fuzzy feeling hog”
Strawman. We’re not all the same, but we should have the same rights and be judged as individuals, a concept you find remarkably hard to parse for some reason.
Search,
Not a Strawman, it is a reference to the attempts of manipulative squirming comments multiculturalist genocidalists like yourself make in their sick efforts to guilt-trip Irish people into shutting up and not asserting their right to defend themselves, not opposing your destructive mass immigration policies. A person can view people having same rights and judge as individuals regardless no matter where they are in the world, for example right now, myself in Ireland I can view that all Chinese people should have the human rights, doesn’t mean I have to open my borders to China, opposing mass-immigration does not change how one views how peoples of other nations should have certain rights. We can help them best by helping them as we always did in their own country, not by opening up our own country to the world, do that, and you help nobody, except your own ego, capsize our own boat, destroy our people, and sink all ability for us to help others in the future. have a bit of vision, you are an effin eagle after all.
You gonna ask everyone of Irish ethnicity to return to Ireland “warning”? That’s a lot of repatriation.
“Not a Strawman, it is a reference to the attempts of manipulative squirming comments multiculturalist genocidalists”
Stop claiming I support “genocide”. If you want to redefine the word to fit your own argument that’s fine, but I want no part of it. I don’t support genocide.
“like yourself make in their sick efforts to guilt-trip Irish people into shutting up and not asserting their right to defend themselves, not opposing your destructive mass immigration policie”
Christ, are you sensitive or what. This is a comments discussion section. I apologise if scrutiny of your views is upsetting. It’s not my fault they’re so logically flimsy.
To be fair, Ireland is a small country in size and population,and I think at this time we have facilitate generously to masses that have come to Ireland for the better life, whatever its accommodation/housing employment heath care education welfare citizenship not to mention a very soft welcoming mat from the quangos and the PC brigade that step over there own to accommodate these people at a great expense to the already hard pressed Irish tax payer, at the moment Ireland has more then enough foreigner to contend with and now rather then encourage more into the country we should begin to start to tighten are borders,be more selective on who can enter Ireland,asylum seeker to pay for there 2nd appeal,know entry if you have convictions from you native country,means to support yourself,three conviction and your deported and the native Irish have a more of a say on immigration/asylum seekers.and a end to this PC BULLSHIT we have every right to say how we feel good bad indifferent, I am not for mass immigration,but we should keep it tight and manageable.
You have every right to express your opinion, but you don’t have a right to be shielded from scrutiny just because you label any criticism of your views as “PC BULLSHIT”.
What would *actually* help take the strain of the “hard-pressed” taxpayer is a government brave enough to deal with our luxury social welfare system and the deluxe wages in areas of the public sector.
Giants stadium. 1994.
Piece of paper and not much else, the more they dish out citizenship the more diluted it becomes
“Piece of paper and not much else, the more they dish out citizenship the more diluted it becomes”
Most of us are “dished” out citizenship for the “achievement” of having plopped out of mammy on these shores.
At least these people actually had to do make an effort it.
Search,
“Most of us are “dished” out citizenship for the “achievement” of having plopped out of mammy on these shores.
At least these people actually had to do make an effort it.”
Wow, you let your mask slip there. The hate of the extreme leftists revealed. They hate Europeans, they attack Europeans and our culture at every turn, they hypocritically defend any other people for the same issues, they truly hate Europeans, they want us dead, gone. Many of these extreme leftist types on vid planning and saying as much. This is the reality of those especially far-left, who support mass-immigration, this is what is inside their head, seething anger and hatred.
The most natural and beautiful thing in the world, a woman giving birth to her baby, nurtured and exhaustingly carried for 9 months, risking death at childbirth to give birth to her own child, father’s risking all to protect their family and nation’s, repeating the cycle of their ancestors who struggled and sacrificed much for their Irish descendants, the most natural thing in the world for every nation of people, and here you have the bile and poisonous hate spewed only toward people who are white, not any others, spewed out by a multiculturalist, they try to hide these hate-ventings, by turning the image of monster on people asserting their right to protect their nation, pretending they are the ones filled with love, when the opposite is the case.
Lunatic rantings of a deluded fascist…
@WarningBeaconsofÉire
“Wow, you let your mask slip there.”
What mask? What sacrifices did you, personally, have to make, to get citizenship?
“The hate of the extreme leftists revealed. ”
I’m not the one calling for a large State to impose draconian restrictions on people’s liberties to enforce a culture and protect genetic purity.
“They hate Europeans, they attack Europeans and our culture at every turn, they hypocritically defend any other people for the same issues, they truly hate Europeans, they want us dead, gone.”
If you can point out where I said I hate Europeans (of which I am one), or indeed any of that, that’d be good.
“This is the reality of those especially far-left, who support mass-immigration, this is what is inside their head, seething anger and hatred.”
You really are invested in having a persecution complex aren’t you?
“The most natural and beautiful thing in the world, a woman giving birth to her baby, nurtured and exhaustingly carried for 9 months, risking death at childbirth to give birth to her own child, father’s risking all to protect their family and nation’s, repeating the cycle of their ancestors who struggled and sacrificed much for their Irish descendants, the most natural thing in the world for every nation of people,”
The reason for most of the wars in the last few centuries is people being manipulated into putting their “nation” (or their “faith”) ahead of humanity. In fact the nation State that you so love has generally been founded on a history of violence and destruction, on the ‘genocide’ as you would put it, of regional cultures and traditions. Thankfully, the civilised world is slowly but surely moving on from that lunacy.
“here you have the bile and poisonous hate spewed only toward people who are white, not any others, spewed out by a multiculturalist,”
Again, if you can point out where any of this “bile” is. That’d be good.
“by turning the image of monster on people asserting their right to protect their nation, pretending they are the ones filled with love, when the opposite is the case.”
Again, point out where I claimed I was “filled with love” or similar. My point is that I don’t believe in sacrificing individual freedoms to protect your conception of “Irishness” or the Irish nation state. Again, it’s funny you accuse *me* of being an extreme leftist, when you’re the one singing the praises of collectivism.
Well, bully for us – the Irish – a great bunch of lads!! :-D. Seriously, we are paying this woman how much?
How has citizenship – a matter for the courts, turned into a Political ceremony that now has shades of “Follow the Leader ” about it ?
Ah yes – Alan “I’m off to Israel under media blackout” Shatter reformed that !
Why is citizenship just a matter for the courts?
It a legal thing Bobby – that’s why we had referenda on it and we were very clear on the influx of foreigners into the country ..
Personally I like to see immigrants but it galls me that it is at the expense of my friends who were very highly educated and left here because of all the taxes – and that was before the property tax or water charges .
Dermot – I think the ceremonial aspect has it’s place, it’s a big event for the attendees (I presume), and maybe having such an event puts a bit more gravitas around the whole thing.
Unless my sums are off, but since June we’ve added 1.3% to the pop.
Does that sound like a lot?
More concerned with quality rather than quantity tbh, and we need more workers to pay pensions of our ageing population anyway.
Because under maritime law- Roman- the court corporation has the power to grant citizenship and with that a pass port – allowing us to use that paper to pass through borders-air port, and ferry port- the passport is owned by the Minister of course.
As we are all born free sovereign beings of this Universe, its clear some people have usurped this power for their own ends in an effort to control people- like keeping sheeple inside the pens- country.
We had no countries until patriarchal wars created them when sharing the spoils of war.
Catherine,
Even chimpanzees group together in troops and fight other troops for territory, showing how tribes of man formed and struggled to maintain their different identity and culture, because chimps know something from harsh experience, territory equals survival. Get back to us when you have told those nations with a tougher harsher experience of the laws of nature who see you having the luxury of soft western “child of the Universal flower” ideas as an invite to come and take.
Fair point Scarr …
Could it not be so heavily political though – the hypocrisy of so called political leaders standing facing the flag and they go along and flog everything for an envelope is just too much to take perhaps !
But our current government are trying to enslave us.
Bull.
trying?
Fenian invasion of Canada? Doesen’t count I guess!
Fair dues to the new citizens but Ireland did not just rise from the sea in 1922.Whether Irish people wanted to be or not we were at the heart of the Brittish Empire and its crimes and “achievements” . The minister is either ignoring Ireland’s complicated history or is remarkably ignorant.
Crimes, that’s all whitey does, crimes. Nevermind the Irish have donated billions in aid to the 3rd world or that we contiually have sent armies of volunteers to build their schools, educate and give them medical aid, no doubt Africa and India’s populations are exploding, all down to whitey’s “crimes”. For our aid alone, we do not owe the 3rd world a damn thing. All these negative magnified political comments are mass-immigration propaganda attempts to induce guilt in the Irish people.
Rural Ireland was in the third world 150 years ago.
Diramuid
Rural Ireland built the earth monument with astrological alignments at Newgrange and boyne valley long before the pyramids, among other inventions which were world firsts, as well as being the island of Saints and scholars, re-educating Europe after fall of Rome. Diarmuid’s hate of the Irish coming out again, nothing but defence of the xeno while he attacks anything European, why the hate Diarmuid, what happened to Diarmuid?
“Éire calling”…
Rural Ireland had a famine just over 150 years ago.
We lost 1 million people through disease and starvation.
We lost 1 million people through emigration.
We were oppressed into being a third world cesspit.
You should look it up.
While she presides at an invasion ceremony lol. You couldnt make this stuff up.
Ireland, and Europe, is growing older. We won’t have enough coming behind us to pay out pensions, medical cards, bus passes etc. we need an influx of immigrants and their kids.
Nonsense mass-immigration propaganda Exit,
Take on immigrants because of native pop. old age, then immigrants also get older, so take on more immigrants. Short-sighted short term bollx, not a solution. Answer is to create a country that serves the Irish people and supports families, if you want more Irish people, make them and create the country that supports and serves them.
Purely so you can keep Ireland white?
Telbar
Irish, if I was Nigerian I would be wanting to keep it Nigerian. How about purely so you can interfere with native peoples right to exist and change their circumstances, quit forcing your multicultural intrusiveness on others, it’s called hate.
Europe is a multicultural melting pot. Sorry to break it to you. You missed the boat thousands of years ago with your delusional racial ideology.
Diarmuid you slipped up again, you equate past gruesome invasion and violence against Europeans as just multiculturalism and a “melting pot”
That’s why Danes, Swedes, Irish, Spanish, Norwegians, Austrians, Czechs, Dutch, French, Belgians, Italians, before muslim berber, saracen, seljek and ottoman invasions are all different types of whites, and not Africans or asians?
So the berbers, saracens, and other muslims who INVADED, see that, they invaded, were not invited, to you such invasions and enslavements on European peoples, is simply called, multiculturalism and a melting pot, thanks for exposing your hate again, showing that you really think multiculturalism for Europeans is an attack on them, a policy of violent extermination, which in your hate based attitude for Europeans, you let slip.
Again with the loooong deluded fascist rantings…
Europe has been a cultural melting pot for millennia.. Romans, Greeks, Phoenicians, Berbers, Ottomans, Carthaginians all had civilisations extending beyond the European continent.
Nazi racial policy was exposed for the farce it was 70 years ago.
So, basically she’s saying:
“Ireland’s great because we’re not England!”
Of course its not like Blueshirts headed off to Spain flying the swastika to overthrow a democratically elected government in the 1930′s or anything.
The one ship that left Galway with a large group of blueshirts was German, that’s why it was flying a swastika flag. Other blueshirt groups left under the flags of whatever nations ship they happened to leave on. The blueshirts had their own flag, which was a red St Patrick cross on a sky blue background. That’s what they flew themselves.
They still fought alongside fascist forces against an elected government.The fact that they had a Nazi German boat show up to carry them out there just reinforces their connection to one of the most brutal political ideologies ever known.It’s not as if there weren’t other ways of getting there.It was deliberatly symbolic.
Hannigan,
Get a clue, your psycho commie-bolshie friends raped and murdered thousands of innocent people, clergy and civilians, the blueshirts went to defend against that anti human crap you support.
Hitler wasn’t a patch on Cromwell or Henry 8th. in Irish History
they were the greatest of all leaders of Orc armies to invade Eire !
Paddy Hannigan.
Communism has killed more than 100,000,000 people. I think its safe to say communism takes the 1st prize for most brutal ideologies ever know…
Pat, “Warning”.. do you folk support Nazi racial policies by any chance?
Where did I say I backed communism ? Well at least your honest about your support for a fascist regimes overthrow of an elected government.
Franco staged a coup against a socialist government not a communist one.Untill his take over there were still free and fair elections.No opposition parties had been banned. The Jesuits had been expelled due to what was seen as their influnence in civil politics a move which was backed by the majority of spanish people.Franco delibertly used the non existant spectre of USSR style communism taking over the country as a pretext for the coup.He suceeded where the likes of Mosley in Britian and O’Duffy in Ireland had failed.It was his use of the Jesuit expulsion and his use of a few minor incidents of anti church violence to fan the fears of a full scale communist take over that led directly to the civil war that followed.He had hoped for a Nazi style take over by spreading that fear but it never happened.The idea that he was fighting against some type of Stalinist movement is grossly over exagerated but it an idea that he propagated during his rule following the war.
While there were atrocities on both sides during the war the numbers of civilians killed as Francos forces occupied and purged territory far outweiged anything on the republican side.Infact the republicans organised safe corridors for refugees to escape into France.
*The republicans were reluctant to accept support from the USSR as they wanted the re establishment of democracy after the way but were forced to due the UK and Frances policies of appeasment towards fascism and Hitler in particular.Had they listened to Churchill and armed them there would have been no need to accept Stalins help.Franco on the other hand openly accepted Hitlers help and considered himself Spains Furher.He had no intention of re establishing democracy as was bourne out by his 37 year dictatorship.He had no problems in ethnically clensing the Basques or turning entire towns in peaceful areas into bullseyes for the likes of the Condor Legion.
The deaths of 500,000 people during the was and countless thousands afterwards in purges lie squarely at the feet of Franco.
The inconvient truth is that the fore runners of FG backed this fascist monster and no amount of rewriting history will ever change that.
*Next time you address me its Mr. Hannigan and not Hannigan you fascist halfwit.
Diarmuid,
Are you telling me, no people in this wide earthly world have the right to have their own business their own and not be intruded upon with policies that force a change in their national continued existence, or to not be allowed protect their own nation and secure it and their own Irish identity, coz if that’s your game, then you support genocide.
Okay, seriously, this nonsense of referring to not supporting nationalist social engineering as “genocide” needs to be called out, because there’s clearly some idiots (judging by the green thumbs) who are not actually considering the implications of what you’re saying.
(1) “not be intruded upon with policies that force a change in their national continued existence” – what policies are threatening anyone’s existence? I don’t see anyone calling for the Irish to be wiped out, or sent to the chambers. You clearly believe that individual rights are worth throwing under a bus to preserve some sort of ideal, or genetic purity. I don’t, and that doesn’t make me a supporter of “genocide”.
(2) “or to not be allowed protect their own nation and secure it and their own Irish identity” – I have always believed that if your identity requires you put up walls and stop other people coming in, then it’s probably a very weak identity. Why should the State force an identity on *anyone*? If everyone in Ireland suddenly decided they want to marry non-Irish, would you mandate that the State should stop them?
(3) “then you support genocide.” – genocide is the forceful destruction of a racial group. Who is advocating that? Stop saying that, you’re cheapening the term and being incredibly insulting to the victims of actual genocides.
except that is for the pedarest clergy…..
Well “Search Eagle”, the UN definition of Genocide is as follows:
” Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part”.
The politicians and heads of groups who are essentially going out of their way to make Ireland multicultural and diverse, ARE inflicting on the group (ethnically Irish people) conditions (mass immigration) to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.
If you cant understand what I just said just look at London. The indigenous white British are now in a minority in their own capital city. Look at Malmo in Sweden. Look at the immigrant ghettos of Paris…
@Pat. I said ‘one of’ not ‘the’.Because communist regimes butchered millions does not mean that fascist one get off scott free or vice versa.Its not a competition which lets one off the hook because the other caused more damage.
Im fully aware of that Paddy. I acknowledge and detest the fact that millions were killed as a result of fascist regimes, but you said it as if the blueshirts were just going over to show off in front of Hitler and jack off to fascism…but in fact most volunteered because of the stories they heard (many of which were true) of nuns being raped, and alter boys being dragged out of churches and shot dead simply for being part of the church, or of Landowners being shot dead because they had the audacity to work hard and earn the right to own the land…these acts were done by the communist republican side. I was merely stating that communism is far worse (or has at least butchered FAR more) than fascism which the blueshirts supported. I never said fascism was acceptable/good.
@Pat
Okay, I clearly need to explain this again.
“Well “Search Eagle”, the UN definition of Genocide is as follows:
” Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part”.”
Here is their definition of genocide, in full.
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Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
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Source: UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
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Of these you have cited (c), and claim that ‘mass immigration’ is bringing about the conditions that will lead to physical destruction of the “Irish” race. Mass immigration has not led to individual Irish people being persecuted and it has not destroyed the social and political institutions upon which individual Irish people rely. This is clear, because of course, the people who are ‘integrating’, by all means, in citizenship ceremonies are being cited as part of the so-called genocide, which means that the entire argument lies on the idea of “Irish” being white, native-born, “ethnically Irish”, if you will.
Of course many Irish people have made perfect peace with the idea that “Irish” does not have to fit this rigid, inflexible, genetic definition, and do not feel threatened by “genocide” because, say, a black person has the gall to call themselves “Irish”. The cheek! Consequently, when you say “the Irish” are being threatened what you really mean is the idea of “the majority of the island being white, genetically ‘pure’ Irish” is being threatened, because certainly individual Irish people are not.
No one has presented an ethically-sound or even logical reason why it’s worth dismissing the individual rights of people who do not fit that description, to ‘protect’ against demographic change. Instead we get appeals to emotion and gross misuse of the word ‘genocide’. Now stop doing it.
“If you cant understand what I just said just look at London. ”
I lived in London for over 10 years. Believe it or not, it’s not the hell hole you describe.
Any time I feel my position on nationalism softening, all I need to do is look at threads like this. Religion ,nationalism and other collectivist structures which place protecting institutions and selected groups of people at their heart over individual rights and freedoms, need to be (peacefully) dismantled.
@pat.TBH I was just having a pop at the ministers assertion that the Irish wern’t capable of invading or generally causing sh*t in another country using FG’s undeniable origins as a party to hammer the point home.IMHO any political movement that has the suffix ‘ism’ should be watched like a hawk.Ism’s have killed more people than anything else that humanity has ever dreamed up.
Search,
You’re not calling anything out. You’re full of crap. Mass-immigration threatens the native population. an exclusive territory that was once of one native people opened up to different non western peoples, directly pressures the natives. Competition for resources, access to resources. Look at any ecosystem where the native species is opened up to non-native species, competition for resources ensues, Space, light, nutrients, where once there was only the native species, there is now less native species and an increase to domination of the non-native species. Red vs grey squirrel, etc. And in each case the invasive species does not directly attack, threaten or cause the bloodspilling of the native, yet the native diminishes. It is population pressure, not only that but it seen to happen in Europe, British cities where once without foreign mass-immigration regardless of the population it is always native, but with mass-immigration, native pop. is replaced by non-native. Increased pressure is exerted on resources but also by communities on native communities leading to strain, stress because of the pressure of non native cultures exerts on the host native communities, thus in UK you have cities and towns with native minorities while the non-natives express their new and own forms of expression. The rest of your comments are just the same multicultural bs lies, trying to deny reality of what the natives in European are experiencing and for which have a direct hand in because of your hateful support of it.
“You’re not calling anything out.”
I definitely was. I was calling out your mis-use of the word “genocide”.
“Mass-immigration threatens the native population. an exclusive territory that was once of one native people opened up to different non western peoples, directly pressures the natives. Competition for resources, access to resources. ”
Thought experiment: if the increase in population was caused by purely Irish-born children, what would you do about it?
Warning.. do you deny the Holocaust like your Twitter buddies?
My twitter buddies? Are they my invisible friends too, out to fk, ye trolling amadán ye.
“eire calling” is a fellow Xenotroll buddy of yours. Same person! I think so.
She obviously doesn’t remember Italia ’90….
Population replacement. Cromwell is back.
Cromwell is not back. Xenophobia is back.
Diarmuid,
Multicultural propaganda name-calling never went away.
Sorry to break it to you but the Irish are a multicultural bunch.. Planters, Norman’s, Vikings, Celts… go back far enough and we come from Northern Spain.
Planters…North West European…
Normans…North West European…
Vikings…North West European…
Celts…Central/North West European…
Northern Spain…Slightly Southern European…
There’s a pattern here…we’re not so multicultural Diarmuid.
Diarmuid,
I thought your multiculturalist’s mantra was “if you go back far enough we all come from Africa”.
What do you want to do with people with non-Northern European blood chaps? Put them in camps by any chance? Do it annoy you that Nazi racial policies did not consider the Irish aryan?
Nazi racial policies?! What are you on Diarmuid?
Because I dont agree with mass immigration that destroys a culture…I am suddenly a member/follower of the nazi party…Hmmm…why don’t you preach the joys of mass immigration and multiculturalism to the native Americans…I hope you can run fast though, because you’ll need to.
Good stuff Pat, you’re not an advocate of Nazi racial policies, unlike a few others here (who seem to agree with everything you say).
You comments are still delusional and based on skin colour, nothing more. The Irish are a multicultural race, many different cultures have inhabited this island.
When would you like to drop the shutters on people migrating globally? You talk above about pre European colonisation of the Americas? Native Americans migrated within the Americas for millennia, and they were a hugely multicultural bunch! Hundreds of different tribes and languages.
Humans beings migrate, they always have, they always will.
Your idea of a racially homogenous world is cynical fiction.
Diarmuid,
You need to mention more buzz words that provoke that emotional response of either support for your view and rejection of the anti-multicultural anti immigration view. You see becoz your pro immigration arguments are easily demolished, like a solo simger who can’t sing and relies on fireworks, tons of backing singers and other on stage diversions, you must use an assortment of tricks and gimmicks to divert from your empty arguments. You know the media and film industry has pushed a certain view of “evil nazis” so you use that word to try to associate anyone who opposes multiculturalism or mass immigration with the same hollywood induced negative image. But what a revealing indication of the emptiness of the argument for immigration is when you have to resort to such hot air and stunts.
For example, you come out trying to imply people have said or advocated “nazi” racial policies, when nobody has said as much. I support you in your comments, they are the biggest advert against multiculturalism and mass immigration, showing the type of people who support it and the type of empty, lies they make. This is exactly why I support free speech, because the pro immigationists are exposed. Now D, write out 100 times, racist, nazi, bigot, it is sure to make people support your hate of Europeans……………or will it?
“Warning”.. I gave up reading your deluded rantings about half way down… seriously boring… and about 70 years seriously out of date. You lost your war in 1945… get over it!
Another plantation, this time by the lefty right on liberals. Anyone can be Irish now, just turn up and say the right things. Ah that’s grand here’s an auld passport and a citizenship award. Now go get all your relations and they can get them too.
“Anyone can be Irish now, just turn up and say the right things. ”
I can’t remember what special thing I did to become Irish… hmmm, what was it? Oh yeah, nothing. Just like most Irish people.
Anyway this pithy remark isn’t even close to the truth.
You will have to come up with a more coherent argument than that Eagle.
Search,
Peoples parents worked hard or struggled in some way, women risk death in childbirth, for their children to be born and live. Thousands of years of blood, sweat and tears went into the existence of the Irish people, the same thing they will do if allowed to preserve that existence, that goes beyond a special individual thing, it is a factual blood tie spanning millenia. One your are trying to impede and destroy, tell your grandchildren or the grandchildren of a harried hunted Irish minority your special part in their misery.
Your utopian “pure-blood” society is a pathetic fiction and about 70 years out of date.
“You will have to come up with a more coherent argument than that Eagle.”
Because of course your one was just so good. It’s certainly more correct than the nonsense you posted, let’s see again:
” Anyone can be Irish now, just turn up and say the right things. Ah that’s grand here’s an auld passport and a citizenship award. ”
This is demonstrably untrue. One cannot just “turn up” here and get citizenship, believe it or not.
I always get a bit aggravated when people who’ve done nothing to gain their citizenship and the privilege it entails, like your or I, moan about people who *have* actually had to make an effort, gain theirs.
Well at least that is a little more coherent than your last one. As it happens citizenship is not a privilage it is a natural right that is also recognised in the farcical idea of human rights as aset out by the UN and ECHR.
Non nationals who seek citizenship however jump through hoops and say the right things to achieve it for their own reasons, mostly for a pasport and the right to reside in the EU (EU nationals excepted) and to be able to import their families.
But the lefty liberals don’t want to admit this.
“Non nationals who seek citizenship however jump through hoops and say the right things to achieve it for their own reasons, mostly for a pasport and the right to reside in the EU (EU nationals excepted) and to be able to import their families.”
And I’m completely fine with this, because I see it as individuals exercising their economic rights. I don’t really care what their personal reasons are, as long as they work and obey the law, which is the same standards I apply to everyone.
Whether or not it “cheapens” nationhood or whatever, isn’t really a concern of mine.
Diarmuid,
Pure blood, call it what you like. There is a definite Irish people, they are of western European blood, and are unique in the world, and again unique and differ to their other brother nations in europe as does every European nation, I call it Irish blood, and we have every right to defend ourselves, our people and our difference. People like you with hate in your heart want to see Irish nation wiped out, very sad to see people with that kind of poison inside.
I’m more Irish than you are Xenotroll. I realise that the Irish population was built up over the millennia by migrants and patriots. I also realise that proponents of Nazi racial policy are farcical and deluded. Just like you hombre.
We have certainly been invaded in the last 15 years , and it’s likely to continue
I agree we are enslaven our own people now through taxation
Even Though we’ve one of the lowest personal tax regimes in the west.
And we have the right to elect or not those who set the tax rates (even though only about half the people exercise that right).
And (most of) that tax goes towards paying for services for the people.
Apart from that you’re spot on.
I’m setting up a new party. We’re going to have NO TAX and we’re going to DOUBLE the number of nurses and gardai and doctors and firemen and stuff. And we’re going to build 100 new schools and 50 new hospitals and have free everything. Hold on. I don’t have to set up a new party. I’ll just join the Loony Left and the Shinners.
Paddy – what makes you think they would have you and you declaring them loony – they might see you as underselling yourself !
The truth of the left and right debate is that sometimes an issue needs right thinking and sometimes it needs left thinking – it takes courage and wisdom to know which one to choose at the opportune time ….
Enda possesses neither , but he did display the shape of one who did when he stood before us and said “Enda for Taoiseach !” …
That was loony in the internet age to think that he could get away with it !
Ireland invaded Scotland. The country is named after us lol. Also our history isn’t completely unblemished as part of the British empire. The arch at Stephens green erected to commemorate the soldiers that died in the Boer war is a testament to that.
#PopulationReplacement
#fascism
Ireland in its present form is not able to look after its own never mind taking over anywhere else.
Comments like that from a minister is immature and shows what understanding this government have of this Island and its history.
Lets hope all these new citizens can make a worthwhile contribution…
Thankfully its own are able to look after themselves.
Remember, this is how the Paris Shootings gunmen “became” French.
France’s Fitzgerald?
“Remember, this is how the Paris Shootings gunmen “became” French.”
Maybe you should go to one of those ceremonies and say that there. Some incredibly nasty comments on these articles.
Search,
How is that nasty? Is it or is it not true that the gunmen or their parents etc in Paris got in via mass-immigration, and perpetrated a crime which would not have otherwise happend without mass-immigration? A policy which is another source of crime via immigrant crime which natives now have to worry about being victims of, and which you and your multicultural pushing kind support. The nasty thing is your support for the destruction of a any native people, anywhere.
France considered Algeria to be just another Department (County) of France to the extent it even gave it a Department number (99), Paris is 75. So until the French recognised Algeria as a country any movement from there was merely internal migration. No different than someone from Inis Mór moving to Offaly. I could be mistaken but as far as I remember the shooters at Charlie Hedbo were born & reared in Paris.
If countries didn’t go around invading other countries and claiming them to be as British a Finchley or as French as frommage, then there might be a lot less historical blow back. The destruction of native peoples has been going on since flint was at the cutting edge of weaponry.
Well said Ten Major.
Europe has been a cultural melting pot for millennia.. Romans, Greeks, Phoenicians, Berbers, Ottomans, Carthaginians all had civilisations extending beyond the European continent.
Nazi racial policy was exposed for the farce it was 70 years ago.
Diarmuid,
That’s why Danes are white, Swedes are culturally different but are white, that’s why Irish are white, Brits are white, north west Europeans are all white. Your falsely label invasions by non-native Europeans as the same thing as some sort of legal in-migration, when the peoples of Europe resisted their migration into their territories. So no Diarmuid, wrong again, it was not a melting pot, otherwise the populace would look more like Brazil, but we didn’t we retained our north western European ancestry and culture. By the way the Carthaginians were white as were the all the roman rulers and most of their populace, with only a minority of slaves etc non white, have a look at their statues, all whites. Berbers, Ottomans were not Europeans, they are African and Turkic peoples, who invaded, killed and enslaved the white areas of Anatolia they invaded. Diarmuid now resorting to lying and changing history, to push his anti Irish multicultural wish to destroy the Irish. Of course get in the “nazi” emotional buzz word, to try to turn people off the opposing and correct view to yours, see Diarmuid, your multicultural arguments need tricks and ploys to divert from their lack of substance. Like a solo-singer who needs all sorts of dancers, fireworks and backing singers around them because they can’t actually sing.
Awesome copy and paste there champ..
Europe has been a cultural melting pot for millennia.
Europe will continue to be a cultural melting pot.
It is not popular to say this, but sometimes it takes an outsider to appreciate what we cannot see ourselves.
I love this country. It’s not perfect, none are, but it’s a damn sight better than most. For a wet rocky little island in the middle of an ocean, shorn of great plains and natural resources, historically dominated by powerful neighbours, we have done ok. Seriously, what comparable country is better? Denmark maybe?. I tell you what, Denmark is a damn miserable place, and they still have a monarchy.
Éire Abú
We stole St. Patrick.
Yes Paddy the Roman patriarch. Patrick = patriarch and the boys in frocks changed his story to say He drove out the snakes. We had no snakes, but we had Dragon Royals. In the donation of Constantine , the Roman boys laid claim to own every land etc on Mother Earth. And we have not copped onto the untruths yet.
If there is a mother earth – then who is the Father if there is no God …
just askin’
Firstly, Ireland would likely have done it if was independent and powerful enough to do it on its own. Secondly, as part of the United Kingdom, Ireland and Irish citizens were heavily involved in conquering and enslaving other countries.
Most Irish people would view us as being as being an occupied colony of the UK and not as part of it.
Well that’s only half the truth.
“Ireland would likely have done it if was independent and powerful enough to do it on its own.”
So if Europe had not gone into Africa safe to say according to your logic, then Arabs, Persians or some other powerful imperial force would have in our stead and done perhaps far worse. Pretty much as Arabs and Chinese are economically pillaging Africa today.
European regimes have had a bloodlust for colonial expansion beyond any other peoples in history.
Ireland was England’s first colony. Are you glad the English colonised us?
Diarmuid,
Another anti-white hater, who will ignore Genghis Khan, who considering the tech at his disposal ‘bloodlusted’ as much territory per capita if compared if he had the same tech as Europeans. Then you have the repeated muslim conquests from various Asian peoples enslaving over 100 million Africans, 1 million Europeans and continually doing unprovoked attacks on Europe, raiding, raping, murdering and enslaving pilgrims to the levant, Diarmuid, you get everything wrong, all drven by your sick hate of Europeans.
So you are glad England colonised us?
Your far-right delusions are being exposed…
The kind of empty-headed nonsense usually reserved for the pub to keep some tourists agreeable.
Anyway, Ireland was an integral part of the Uk for 120 years during which time was colonised Africa, etc.
How many Irish MPs voted that down?
Maybe we have but it was just too small and insignificant an attempt at an invasion to make it into the history books.
We did our invading before the history books – the Irish used to regularly go across the Irish sea and establish little kingdoms and then they would be kicked back again !
Theer was a very unhealthy nest of Vikings that settled in Brittany and became the Normans – never a more vicious nor sadistic group of ignorami ever walked the earth – except for the Hittites maybe – but then again Brittany was where those two poisons merged !
Thankfully Eire softened their cough – not finished yet though !
Normandy. Not Brittany.
“never a more vicious nor sadistic group of ignorami ever walked the earth – except for the Hittites maybe”
No other race was involved in genocide, butchery, cannibalism or slavery, none, nada, zilch. Only evil whitey, our evil wicked monstrous ways are the reason you still sit here in the west typing on the whitey invented internet and do not live in more enlightened parts.
I heard that God invented alcohol so that the Irish wouldn’t take over the world…
Brittany !
Beacons – Never a worse means I recognise there were more – don’t start with me !
Not in the mood today !
Dermot,
“never a more vicious nor sadistic group of ignorami ever walked the earth”
You want to incorrectly tar Europeans as being the worst, then expect the correction. I’ll correct it any sweet time I like too. If your not in mood, ( as if nobody else is “not in the mood”) then don’t comment on a medium that allows replies.
Luckily Europeans also defeated the Nazis. Do you consider Eastern Europeans and Russians to be “untermenschen” like the Nazis did?
Diarmuid,
I hold all humans in the same equal regard where respect and dignity is concerned, in fact all living creatures, from single celled organisms, flora, little insects to all humans, all with one exception, parasites. I don’t respect “individuals” like anyone shouldn’t who doesn’t deserve my respect, cough, cough, you know Diarmuid, trolls, liars and the like. The idea of “untermenschen” is usual allied myth to demonise the enemy. You shouldn’t believe the victors versions of their enemy unless you are using their lies for your own propaganda of course. I will post after this some quotes and sources, for your education.
To answer your question about NSDAP. It was the NSDAP who defeated the NSDAP. Had they waited 2-4 weeks before defending themselves against bolshevik aggression they would have won the war. They were 13miles (kilometers?) outside Moscow, before the freeze ground everything to a halt. They would have taken Moscow, instead of the winter freezing their logistical abilities, the Siberian divisions would not have been able to retake an entrenched and reinvigorated German war machine from Moscow. Germans would have consolidated the eastern front, the oil fields in the south west would have been secured. Then all German focus would have been on the west, with full air support being able to counter the allies, the allies would have lost. Considering also all the tech advances the Germans were just bringing on board at the end of the war, jets, rockets, machine-guns, they really were about to be untouchable. Btw Germany’s weapons at the start were defensive, not the offensive armaments needed to invade countries, another lie. Not only that, but Russia had plans to invade the west, German had no choice but to defend herself, and the best defence is a good offence.
Russian Specialist Lays Bare Stalin’s Plan to Conquer Europe
Icebreaker: Who Started the Second World War?, by Viktor Suvorov (Vladimir Rezun). London: Hamish Hamilton, 1990. Hardcover. Maps. Photos. Source references. Index.
Albert Gorter, a prominent minister official gave the definition of Aryan as: The Aryans (also Indo-Germans, Japhetiten) are one of the three branches of the Caucasian (white race);they are divided into the western (European), that is the German, Roman, Greek, Slav, Lett, Celt [and] Albanesen, and the eastern (Asiatic) Aryans, that is the Indian (Hindu) and Iranian (Persian, Afghan, Armenian, Georgian, Kurd). Non-Aryans are therefore: 1. the members of two other races, namely the Mongolian (yellow) and the Negroid (black) races; 2. the members of the two other branches of the Caucasian race, namely the Semites (Jews, Arabs) and Hamites (Berbers). The Finns and the Hungarians belong to the Mongoloid race; but it is hardly the intention of the law to treat them as non-Aryans. Thus . . . the non-Jewish members of the European Volk are Aryans. . . .
Source: Eric Ehrenreich. The Nazi Ancestral Proof: Genealogy, Racial Science, and the Final Solution.
From a purely racial standpoint all European peoples belonged to the Aryan family and were thus fundamentally “racially equivalent”, and even according to German ethnology it was impossible to speak of a “Slavic race”. The justification against the Slavs lay rather in the point of a “depopulation policy” of the East as Slavs and all non-Germans represented a major völkisch threat, as well as the Nazis struggle against Bolshevism.
Source: “Non-Germans” Under the Third Reich: The Nazi Judicial and Administrative by Diemut Majer.
The Ahnenpaß stated that “wherever they might live in the world” Aryans were “e.g. an Englishman or a Swede, a Frenchman or a Czech, a Pole or an Italian”.
Source: Deutsch: Eine Sprachgeschichte bis 1945 by Christopher J. Wells.
The so-called Eastern Europeans being non-Aryan and subhumans has been challenged by two historians who speak truth:
“What is for the Third Reich itself, that, contrary to modern popular belief, no frantic focused russophobia there was not. The prevailing ignorance of most of the biological history of the Russian people, and most importantly – sustainable reluctance to get to know her “. The fact of recognition and in Germany during the Third Reich, a book like “Racology ancient Slavs”, helps break down many of the stereotypes of the Soviet and post-Soviet and a liberal eras, like the Germans, intoxicated by their own propaganda of racial superiority, looked at people living in the neighboring eastern area as “subhuman”. This is certainly an illiterate fantasy biased journalists never held in the hands of authentic German primary sources of the time ”
Source: “The Slavs and Aryans World” by Isaac Taylor and Vladimir Avdeev.
Yawn.
Europe has been a cultural melting pot for millennia.. Romans, Greeks, Phoenicians, Berbers, Ottomans, Carthaginians all had civilisations extending beyond the European continent.
Nazi racial policy was exposed for the farce it was 70 years ago.
I DO WONDER ARE THOSE PEOPLE CHECKED FOR TB AND HIV COMING HERE AS SOME COUNTRIES DO CHECK FOR THIS?
Think they do check in places depending on where you plan to work…as in what industry etc
“We are all strangers at home, we’re all exiles in Érin” – O’Gnive, Bard of O’Neill.
Nearly a quarter of a million healthy, hardworking Irish citizens have emigrated from Ireland since 2008
WHY IS IRELAND IMPORTING PEOPLE?
IT IS TOTAL MADNESS!
There may be a good arguement that Ireland to a certain degree has enslaved itself.
You mean the eu has enslaved us like they have all the other unfortunate eurozone countries. We were duped. Europe needs to throw this disgusting currency into the dustbin of history before our beautiful European democracies are defiled any further.
Helmut Kohl , the german political architect of the Euro described himself as being akin to a Dictator during the Euro process – how prophetic of him !
Her hand is MASSIVE (pic no.8)
Ireland is great because without it the EU would be broke and have to pay their own bank debts.
This is complete madness! Ireland can’t provide for her own citizens and thousands have been given Irish citizenship.
I think at one point in time (around 18th Century) the majority of infantrymen in the British army were actually Irish. So whether in the Crimea or all through the African colonies, we did our fair share of invading.
^^I meant 19th Century, pardon my mistake
As colonial minions in a British Empire..
Very true Pat but a lot of Shinner types like to ignore history otherwise they would realise that their irrational hatred and paranoia was based on lies, ignorance and deception.
i don’t understand the “red Thumbs”. Its true.
This is from an article on Wikipedia about Irish regiments in the British army you can look it up if you think its wrong:
“During the 19th, century 42 percent of soldiers in the British Army were Irish born which meant there were more Irish soldiers in the army than English.”
Pat,
More to the point, many Dubs spat in the faces of the minority men of 1916 rising as they took part in that glorious event. It is always a minority who oppose the unpopular view (by definition, hence unpopular), but whose words or actions eventually leads to truth and freedom. Multiculturalism is todays British imperialism, or soviet imperialism for that matter.
Lols. You admitted above that we are racially the same as the English and that it is preferable that they colonised us.
That’s our problem. We were never blooded, as Pádraig Pearse said.
Pearse, Saville and Garry Glitter would have a lot to talk about.
Why would Ireland do this, Merkel has us by the balls and we have even lost our sovereignty as well… Next political union in the E.U.
Get a grip , guys and be happy for those who became Irish citizens today. I’m happy for them and proud to be Irish too.
Fitzgerald told attendees at today’s event that an Irish passport is a “highly-prized possession”.
She is right about that, many will use it to move to England!
How can a land mass invade something?
‘Ireland is great … it has never tried to invade or enslave another country’
Only its own people.
That’s because we invented whiskey!
Oh ffs, Ireland is not great, we are however great at self referential waffle.
i awoke at four oclock this morning in fear for my irish identity after watching the 9 oclock news and seeing thousands of people getting irish citizenship.then to my horror i went and read francis fitzgeralds speech to find that she wants to increase these ceremonies and that the goverment wants more immigration.where is the ceremonies for the irish people who stayed during this goverments austerity policies.im angry what is the real policies of this goverment.why?where will it end?
Was St Patrick not a slave?
You could say the exact same thing about Iran.
Good for economy each new citizen paid 175+950×59000=66,375,000 (66 million)Without solicitors attestation fees about 100 each new citizen. Wish them best of luck. Stand with Irish shoulder to shoulder and take Ireland to the next level.
Nether did the Isle of Man
Travellers?
Slush & crap from someone who ought to know better!
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