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When they came for Telly Bingo, I did not speak out because I did not play Telly Bingo.
But now they have come for Eastenders and I must fight.
6 May 2016
1:44PM
Brendan Howlin is talking about the last government’s place in history. Which feels like something we could have spoken about around, I don’t know, ten weeks ago?
6 May 2016
1:38PM
Six TDs have asked to make statements, which seems to serve the purpose of both allowing them to have a go at various political enemies and buying Fine Gael time to negotiate.
6 May 2016
1:37PM
Some of you have asked for the maths of the vote.
Here goes:
Fianna Fáil’s 44 TDs are abstaining, leaving 114 deputies
Kenny has his own 50 TDs plus Michael Lowry and Katherine Zappone
That leaves him six shy of the 58 needed
Six is the same number in the Independent Alliance
However, if the Green Party abstain rather than vote against, the maths could change, leaving Kenny needing 57 votes
Seamus Healy takes the floor as independents get speaking time. The ones which will be the kingmakers, the Independent Alliance, are nowhere to be seen.
6 May 2016
1:24PM
Eamon Ryan is speaking now and says the Greens won’t support the government.
After him, there’s time for the independents. But many of them aren’t in the chamber.
Brinksmanship? Genuine disagreement? A Taoiseach? A new government?
Right now: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
6 May 2016
1:19PM
Roisín Shortall of the Social Democrats says that new government must have policies at its heart that are equality and poverty-proofed.
6 May 2016
1:16PM
Speeches are still ongoing, but the holdout independents are still across the courtyard in Government Buildings.
At a certain point you’re forced to ask, why did Fine Gael call this vote before they had the numbers to win?
Burton says the issue is not personal and that Labour will support the government when it feels they are right.
But, she says, the new coalition threatens to “fritter away” the progress of the last five years.
6 May 2016
12:49PM
Burton notes that universal free GP care has disappeared from the government formation document. She says that the free GP care for children must now be questioned.
She adds that the Eighth Amendment issue has now been “kicked to touch”.
Burton says that Fianna Fáil will “pick their time as always” and can “keep their foot on the throat of the Taoiseach”.
6 May 2016
12:42PM
Labour leader Joan Burton is on her feet, she says that the deal is a “coalition of convenience” and just because it took a long time, doesn’t make it a good deal.
As my colleague Willie Penrose says, a long churning doesn’t make good butter.
6 May 2016
12:41PM
Word from Christina Finn who’s in Leinster House:
The Independent Alliance are still over in Government Buildings with Michael Noonan and Simon Coveney.
“It’s not looking good – but nobody knows what is going to happen.”
However, the vote could come after 1pm, so there’s still time.
Michéal Martin has a swipe at Sinn Féin, as the speeches become a little bit Father Ted getting the Golden Cleric.
6 May 2016
12:29PM
The camera just flashed to Enda Kenny and Richard Bruton. They did not look like men who were sure they were about how things were going.
6 May 2016
12:26PM
Martin says the “confidence and supply” approach means the majority of the Dáil will be responsible for passing legislation.
6 May 2016
12:24PM
Martin gets some digs in as he says those who “lecture Fianna Fáil about supporting a Fine Gael minority government” voted against “the only way to stop this”.
This is quite odd. Fine Gael can’t hold a vote because they’re not sure they’ll win, so they’re basically stalling until the Independent Alliance decides how to vote.
6 May 2016
12:17PM
Harris says the government will look to “make things a little easier” for citizens.
6 May 2016
12:15PM
A bit of confusion here as Ceann Comhairle Sean Ó Fearghaille asks Enda Kenny to speak, prematurely as it turns out.
Simon Harris gets to his feet to say he hopes to see a “partnership government”.
The Dáil is now taking nominations for the office of Taoiseach.
Noel Rock is on his feet to nominate Enda Kenny for the fourth time. He begins by saying “fourth time’s the charm”.
Rock pays tribute to the Fianna Fáil and independent TDs who have “worked for a compromise” adding that it’s “not about having power, it’s about using it well”.
The scene from the Dáil right now. Enda Kenny and the Fine Gael front bench are notable by their absence.
6 May 2016
12:04PM
Mattie McGrath says he and Paschal Donohoe had a “stand-up row” yesterday.
Yesterday the problem arose where we were looking for the draft document, we were to have it at 10, we didn’t get it till half two and we were told we’d to have it done by half four, I was incensed by that, and I didn’t cooperate and keep the timeline.
“It would be unfair of us to assess and read through 159 pages in an hour and a half.”
He says the mood was “very cross”
I had a stand-up row with Pascal Donohoe in the Government Buildings. The others, I know the Independent Alliance had to. It’s just total disdain. They’re just back to their same antics that people rejected them for. If they are going to carry on that way, it would get people thinking thoughts about being in any cabinet with them… because if that’s the attitude.
6 May 2016
12:02PM
Reports from Leinster House are mixed. Some people say that the Independent Alliance and Enda Kenny are at odds, but others say that they’re voting as a unit and have ironed out all five issues.
Remember the last time Enda was voted Taoiseach, back in 2011?
We hadn’t even discovered Snapchat or quinoa as a nation. So young, so young.
6 May 2016
11:38AM
Simon Harris told reporters at Leinster House that the programme for government is “exciting”.
We’ve put together what I think is a really exciting programme for government that will do everything it can to tackle the challenge the that is facing the Irish people.
It is still our expectation that the vote for Taoiseach will take place today, that a government will be formed today, and that we can bring this very long process to an end.
People want us to get on with the job of governing.
6 May 2016
11:34AM
After the vote for Taoiseach, assuming it’s successful, attention turns to the shape of the cabinet.
Sources tell us that this could be part of it:
Denis Naughten – Minister for Rural Affairs
Frances Fitzgerald – Tánaiste and Minister for Justice
Leo Varadkar – Minister for Health
Regina Doherty – Minister for Education
Simon Harris – Minister for Social Protection
Finian McGrath and Katherine Zappone – Super Junior Ministers
6 May 2016
11:29AM
Simon Coveney tells Sean O’Rourke that he believes Enda Kenny can be elected after 12, but he “won’t speak for independents”.
6 May 2016
11:21AM
And if Enda Kenny can’t secure the six independents necessary to get to 58 votes today?
Fine Gael’s Sean Kyne, a chief negotiator with the independents, reckons Enda will “be going to the Park“, meaning another election.
6 May 2016
11:17AM
Mattie McGrath is out, however. He and Cork independent TD Michael Collins will be staying in opposition.
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I wonder if someone did take him out 30 years ago, would Zimbabwe be the basket case he turned it into, or would some other “leader”, equally malingnant have just taken his place.
It’s tempting to write Africa off, but these things are not inevitable. The neighbours in Botswana were a landlocked, diamond rich former colony. Not an obvious candidate for success. And yet they were, partly because of Seretse Khama’s leadership, but also because people kept voting for him.
Unfortunately, for every relative success story there are 50 failed states. Nation building is hard and requires guts, enterprise, selflessness and vision. Mugabe wasn’t even asked to nation build. He was handed a fully functioning, very rich and successful country and managed to level it in less than a generation. That takes mean spiritness, stupidity, and the most crass selfishness and myopic vision, which, unfortunately, seems to be the calibre of most African leaders. Take and destroy is what they do and in the meantime, the west continues to do what the west does best. Assuage our feelings of western guilt by feeding, clothing and vaccinating the Africans left behind by their very own “leaders”.
Funny that at Mandela’s memorial when the camera would go to different world leaders the crowd would cheer or boo depending on who it was on. Mugabe got a massive cheer and Bush Jnr got a massive boo. Ya no your screwed when Mugabe gets a bigger cheer than ya!
It was an ANC crowd at the funeral & Mugabe was a big supporter if the ANC during apartheid times so I’d be sure that’s why he was cheered rather than for his recent policies.
That says a lot more about the crowd than it does about Bush Jr.
Whatever you can accuse Bush Jr. of, laying waste to his country, starving his people, killing the productive farmers and having an ugly greedy, mean wife isnt among them. An ANC crowd can turn into a vicious mob at the turn of a hair. Being rational abd discerning is not their thing.
While it is true that Robert Mugabe has a few character flaws, it cannot be denied that he is an active leader who stands up for his people. Much better than the shower we have running this country, he is. You can bet Robert Mugabe would have burned the bondholders and sent the IMF home with a flea in their ear.
Proably after totruring them first…Thing is we can elect another incompetant shower to govern us.Mugabe is there forever like a big black blood sucking tick on Zimbabwae.But then thats what happens if you let Marxist gun waving loons loose on a perfectly functioning and producing ,albeit not without is fault state.Turn it into a dictatorship that makes the previous oppression by whomever look like paradise.
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