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THE FUNERAL OF North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Il has been taking place today in Pyongyang – and as can be expected from the world’s most secretive nation, there’s been some bizarre scenes.
Tens of thousands of people have lined the snowy streets as the hearse carrying the late leader was driven through the streets on the first of the two day funeral service.
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Many mourners cried as the hearse drove by in what was a tightly controlled and co-ordinated event, some eleven days after the former leader died.
Here’s our round-up of the most grabbing photographs from the funeral:
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They could just as easily write similar articles about events over here – for example the ridiculous public reaction to Princess Diana’s death. I really wish people would stop believing our media’s black and white portrayal of North Korea. We are just as prone to propaganda as they are – the truth most definitely lies in between what they are being fed and what we are. I have visited North Korea and guess what, they are as human as you or I. Let’s get off this ridiculous moral high horse of thinking they are just deluded simpletons and we are so much better than they. We are all victims of the information that our media dishes out, I wish we’d all just think a little before we swallow it so easily.
The difference is that not even the staunchest republican would accuse Diana of starving a large proportion of her population. Yes we are fed content from traditional media but we are also free to communicate with people all around the world ourselves through social media. Your comment is ridiculous.
Michael my comment is referring to the people of DPRK not particularly their leaders. My word of caution is basically to be careful of being so cocksure you know the truth – something westerners seem to think they have the monopoly on.
I could give you many examples of what I saw there that challenges the ‘truth’ we are told (if you ARE interested then drop me a line). We seem to find it so easy to label and ridicule what we know very little about – and let’s face it most people who write about DPRK haven’t a clue what it’s really like there. It’s always good to question – sorry you feel that’s ridiculous.
You may have visited North Korea but did you have full and free access to go anywhere you wished. Yes, the media in the west are very quick to portray things the way they want them to be seen, but as far as North Korea goes they don’t need propaganda, it’s pretty obvious from looking at the film and pictures released by the North Korean’s themselves. Even in the hysteria over Princess Di you didn’t have army officers falling around crying. I suggest you read some of the UNHCR reports on DPRK, they provide some stark pictures of life for ordinary citizens, particularly those outside of Pyongyang.
Indeed I have read many such reports and I am horribly aware of the suffering that has occurred there. All I am saying – and it’s as simple a point as it is an important one – there are always two sides to a story. Our media chooses to portray DPRK in one particular way, their media does the same in reverse. Our media chooses to portray the US in a particular way, their media does the same in reverse. I could go on..
And on a silly pedantic note I did see images of officers crying at Di’s funeral.- It’s very simple to put a spin on any story and I truly believe the west does it just as much as they do – and both of us are absolutely convinced of our superiority, righteousness and truthfulness.
It’s more that it’s intriguing seeing these pictures because it’s so rare to see photographs from North Korea – and these are particularly unusual. A lot of these are clearly highly choreographed and stage-managed, but who’s to say that these people aren’t generally upset by what’s happening – after all, there have been funerals of major public figures in the western world which have seen similar open displays of grief (thinking particularly of Diana’s funeral in 1997)
So it’s not meant to be entertainment, it’s more a look at a society we don’t get to see a lot of.
Christine
I do not think they are strange either a state funeral is a funeral , and Stage managed ? Probably there are only 12 photos and they are taken it seems in the one area . So they appear staged … These people are more to be pitied for being handled and for their lack of social freedom .But they are doing what they deem respectful .!
In this case, I think it’s a great source of entertainment. It’s a funeral of a nutjob, that’s been stage-managed by his nutjob army, with a populace too afraid not to mourn. Hilarious!
No, the headline hasn’t been touched, it always said ‘strangest’. I’ve outlined the reasons why above, but basically it’s showing how unusual the situation is – and the fact that the rest of the world is privy to such a moment.
The sub heading said weirdest and strangest photos and now says most grabbing. Maybe you change the main headline to that too as its less insulting to the mourners and the dead.
Sean, what really is strange is that profile photo of yours. Your surfing stance sucks-too far back and way too upright to get any drive off a wave like the one you’re on. I suspect you faded out shortly after this photo was taken and then spent the next 30 minutes trying to make it back to the line up.
But as your from Limerick and working in Dublin, you can be forgiven for not having much experience in surfing. Hope you’re looking forward to summer when you can go out and play in the ankle snappers with the rest of the sunshine crew.
Saying the displays of grief in these state supplied pictures of this funeral are similar to the genuine out-pouring of grief in response to Princess Diana’s death is idiotic. Last time I checked, mourners at her funeral, who didn’t mourne vigorously enough weren’t thrown into labour camps. Perhaps because there are no labour camps for political prisoners in the UK.
Plus we have a free press in the West. Something some of our fore-bearers fought and died for. Comparing the press of the DPRK with that in the West, as one comment did, is …..beyond belief. But, thanks to the sacrifice of many in past wars, you’re free to make such silly comments, unlike your fellow human beings in the DPRK.
We aren’t reliant on the press to inform our opinions. The web is full of independently verified reports from trusted sources, such as the UN and Amnesty, of conditions inside the DPRK. Fortunuately we can also read this source material and make our own minds up, unlike the writer of this ‘article’ whose only contribution seems to be uninformed opinion.
As to the person who claims to have visited the DPRK. I believe you have to be part of an organised tour to visit and thus are controlled by state security handlers during your time in the country, so you most certainly did not receive a balanced view of the state.
not sure if the sorrow is staged, the north korean people after all have no access to the outside world, all they know is what their government tells them and many probably believe it. its not so long ago the people of ireland believed everything the church told them
Fake crying is strange. Standing in a line to wait to get your opportunity to fake cry is even stranger. If the North Koreans don’t like western media propaganda they can loosen journalist restrictions and let reporters interact with the population without government minders.
About the only thing I find strange is that the hearse is an American Lincoln Continental. The crying generals are more amusing than strange – but who am I to question their grief – it could be genuine.
It’s not the first time we’ve seen the oppressors indulge themselves in luxuries obtained from the west, while simultaneously condemning the west. Of course the hoi polloi are denied such things.
Kim Jong-il loved ‘Friday the 13th’ and ‘Rambo’. He also had all the albums by ‘Steps’, and he didn’t like Louis Walsh very much.
Christine, may I suggest that perhaps the title of the article could be changed to reflect the fact that the photos are not strange at all really. Interesting indeed but not strange.
Surprised no body from workers party/democratic left/labour party was in attendance did some of that group not visit there to discuss quantitive easing?
Michaels ?
Workers party visited north Korea many moons ago Frank Ross I believe A K A
P De Rossa was there.
Some terrible whispers about north Korea printing dollars totally untrue by the way.
This and other matters recently in papers/courts add up to interesting story.
Didn’t find the pictures strange. They show a state funeral where eveyone appears “appropriately” distraught, no different than the propaganda images provided by other countries. True, we don’t often see images from inside North Korea that haven’t been smuggled out at great risk, but strange doesn’t fit the subject matter.
Appropriately distraught? Have you ever seen military members in a state funeral breaking down weeping before? Why are they all acting the same? Some people just don’t cry, some people are just not emotional. What about the defectors who have confirmed that many people will act when the cameras are put in front of them?
correct RDX862, its just amazing that the rest of the world is a mish mash of all different sorts of people with different emotions and different ways of dealing with things BUT in north Korea they’re all the same!!… oscars for everyone in the DPRK… except for the girl in the pink coat in picture 4, her heart just isn’t in it!!… give her an emmy!!:)
It ties in nicely with the elder Kim’s extravagant tastes that his last ride was on the top of a ’76 Lincoln, a Detroit dinosaur dating from the height of the era of cheap oil, and rampant consumerism, that is so at odds with the collective pauperism foisted upon his people.
I don’t find these pictures weird or strange either. They look like the last state funeral in NK. Unless you find looking at foreign people strange. I think the above comment about the influence of the catholic church in Ireland is a valid one. Would a third of the country go to the phoenix park nowadays to hear the pope? I hope not…
A lot of words have been used – entertaining, strange, weird. I wonder do they use the same description of us? I am not a supporter of North Korea and I do really wait to see what is going to happen with the next regime but please have some level of respect for these people. They may appear to be totally inconsolable with grief and we can see that it is not all real but that is what they know. Its the way to behave in that circumstance. We are no better, we fake so many emotions and we also have fake gods.
How these pictures are strangest!? All I can see mourners at their ex-leader’s funereal. I don’t see anything strange in there! Just because it’s North Korea so everything they do is strange? Even a funereal?
You must attend very strange funerals. I have been to many funerals and outside of a couple of people losing control I have never seen anything remotely similar to the fake grief these North Koreans are acting out.
I don’t know where you lot trained as “journalists” but to claim ” bizzarre incidents as you would expect from the world’s most secretive nation” is just bad, bad editing. No subs, obviously.
@Christine
admittedly my comment was a bit of a swipe, but I quote the opening paragraph:
“and as can be expected from the world’s most secretive nation, there’s been some bizarre scenes.”
North Korea may be a basket case of a country but this is no reason for a lack of journalistic integrity on your part. There is no established relation between “a secretive nation” and “bizarre scenes”, and you should not presume that to be the case as if it were a unversal truth.
Je reste ma valise, as the Frenchman said….
They are not hearses but stretch limos that date back to the 1970s. The same cars were used for Kim il sings funeral in 1994. I don’t think they even have hearses in north Korea.
@RDX862, yes I did have attended a few funereals but I don’t call them strange just because if they don’t fall in western culture or customs. Why do we have to make a mockery about someones funereal?
Nobody seems to have noticed or pointed out the strangeness of the 25/30 year old German-made Mercedes or the equally ancient American made Lincoln cars that were used as hearse/limos – neither could hardly be categoriesed as great symbols of the communist way.
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