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DUBLIN CITY UNIVERSITY (DCU) has been named as one of the world’s top 50 universities that are under 50-years-old.
In the latest rankings of the globe’s youngest third-level institutions, DCU placed 46th. That is 280 places higher than its overall world ranking.
It is the only Irish university to feature in the QS World University Rankings list of those facilities established after 1962.
Professor Brian MacCraith, president of DCU, welcomed the achievement.
“We are delighted with this outcome,” he said. “The inclusion of DCU in this rankings table is a resounding international endorsement of our quality as a young, dynamic university.”
The universities were scored on academic and employer reputation, faculty-student ratio, publications, citations per paper, the proportion of international students and exchange students.
Most of Ireland’s third-level educational institutes are not eligible for the prestigious list as they were set up long before 1962.
Top of the rankings was The Chinese University of Hong Kong, followed closely by its neighbour the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology.
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Also on this day in 1976, two men were killed when the bus they were travelling on was attacked by the UDA on the Crumlin Rd. May we remember all victims of the conflict with the same degree of sympathy and respect.
Agreed, but let’s condemn the atrocities without exception. 12th of June 1973 went by without remembrance on this site when 6 civilians were killed in an IRA bomb attack in Coleraine.
Joe, it makes me sick that there are more red thumbs on that comment than green ones. Do so many people support the IRA’s murder campaign here than condemn it now??
It wasn’t just the IRA
There has been a strong trend towards revisionism and amnesia in recent years, pushed by certain self-interests who wish to rewrite/forget the past. This should not be allowed to take hold.
Six minute warning = no warning. Even in today’s world with mobile phones etc a six minute warning would be useless.
No warning? Is that why so many were killed, yeah?
But, hold on a second, nobody was killed.
No one was killed, was that blind luck or skilful planning by the IRA.. Either way it doesn’t matter or do you condone setting off explosive devices in public buildings?
Do I condone the use of physical force for political struggle if no other option is viable? Yes. If it weren’t for physical force, there’d be 32 counties under British rule today, instead of 6. And only for physical force, notably Canary Wharf, then John Major wouldn’t have sat down to talk and we wouldn’t have a peace process today. Do you condemn the men of the Old IRA for using physical force to win your county’s independence from Britain?
But six counties is still under British rule and that has not changed – the IRA campaign was a failure… it didn’t get a united ireland… all that was got was a SF seat in power which is all they ever wanted – sunningdale was a better deal that the GFA -the 30 years after was for nothing but power.
That some people believe sunngindale would have succeeded is fascinating. Considering that at the time of Sunningdale, that the British state was at war with the nationalist/republican population through state collusion, widespread harassment at police/British Army checkpoints (which was a major cause of IRA recruitment) as well as institutionalised religious discrimination throughout the state, then talking as if Sunningdale was ever going to last is totally fanciful and absurd. Even with years of relative peace since the signing of the Good Friday Agreement, it took until 2007 before a stable(ish) executive was established. That was almost TEN YEARS after the Good Friday Agreement was signed. Arguing that Sunningdale was the answer is to ignore the political and social climate of the day. All this also ignores the fact that Sunningdale was scrapped as a direct result of the violent loyalist reaction to it via the UUUC & the Ulster Workers Council, directed by one Ian Paisley.
Inigo, you neglect to acknowledge that Sunningdale and the power sharing Executive that followed were actually defeated by the unionist bloc, the majority of which viewed sharing power with even the SDLP as too large a concession. This talk of the GFA just being “Sunningdale for slow learners” is a very convenient yet overly simplistic view of the situation. Such an approach is dangerous and often led to ham-fisted manoeuvres that just made things in the North much much worse
But the UDA were “legal”, Eamonn, that’s why the people they killed count as second class citizens by the British government, even in death. And our fellow countrymen in the Fine Gael and Labour coalition at the time never said a word – just like now.
U misunderstood me.. Neither were a good agreement. The gfa was a bad agreement but no worse or better than sunningdale.. As sesmus mallon said the gfa was sunningdale for slow learners. And the reason it fell bevause the extremists on both sides opposed it.. Because it wxcluded them from power. My point was that was 30 years of bloodshed worth the GFA? No united ireland , sectarianism no better? The IRA campaign was a failure.. Why did SF leaders a month before the gfa was signed.. Tell its grassroots that no northern parliament would be entered into.. So repubicans give up articles 2/3.. Enter stormont and solidify the union and u think SF is the republican party? For SF they dont care what principles they chsnge as long as at the end of it they’re in power. Mark my words young man… When sf get into power in south all the promises made now will vanish… And all their supporters will still cheer.
And tell me, genius, how we could have reached the peace, stability and EQUALITY we now have, were it not for armed resistance to the sectarian state? We saw on Bloody Sunday what the peaceful route did for us.
A self fulifilling prophecy by sinn fein.. Work it out ‘genius’ ..
I’ll do you one better.. Read the transcript in the 1986 ard fheis.. O bradaighs speech about what adams et al would do over next twenty years.. In the background The negotiation bringing the war to and end with the brits had begun giving the ira a way out without appearing to have lost… It took alot more than ten years after the gfa had been signed to get to where the north is now.. So even the period from 86 to 94 was a waste of time on the ira side.
It was always about sf power not about a decent settlement for the north.. Would af have stopped the campaign without gaining electoral success? 1981 showed them how to get votes.. If you believe anything else it is extreme niavete.
Tyrone.. You must be a doctor of spin.. Physical force makes it sound all cuddly and minimalist.. Try large explosions in public areas and buildings, incendiary bombs in department stores, raking a Garda car with an AK47 etc etc
Lets just stop writing stories about the troubles. The British oppressed usvfor 800 years, nearly took our language from us, killed millions of us through starvation. But yet the journal can only remind us of the IRAs actions??
Or … we were naturally part of Britain for thousands of years and had we stayed part we’d be far better off than we are today, deeply integrated into a 4 nation United Kingdom, with real power in Westminster and Europe.
There were as many Irish greedily exporting food as their were English during the famine.
However history has been rewritten to suit the romanticists; and look at where we are today. A backward nation of gombeens who can’t agree on anything. Within 100 years of independence we crashed the country into a brick wall.
The best things we’ve ever written, thought and said have been in English.
Malmcom 800 yrs of oppression . Seriously get a life . If that’s all you see in Irish history then you don’t actually know very much about the history of your own country .
Lackey – 800 hundred years of oppression and the famine, you’re like a comic parody of an idiotic stereotypical republican but you’re for real. It’s pitiful!
Malcolm, to give justification to IRA thugs for 800 years of British rule is as warped a reason for continuing violence as it is for the Irish state to operate mother and baby homes. Did it never occurr to you that the majority of people on this island did not support the IRA and that Northern Ireland remains a part of the UK because that is the way that the majority of the people living there wish it to remain. The IRA had absolutely no justification for formenting a war against the UK and it’s people.
Chris, what’s your view on the morality of the Easter Rising? And I think you’ll find that the entire island of Ireland was never allowed to vote on the partition of their country. I’d imagine a healthy majority would support reunification.
I don’t think we were “naturally part of Britiain for thousands of years”. For much of our history, we had a different language, a different religion, and a very different culture with a totally different outlook in general to the British.
The British themselves perceived the Gaelic culture in Ireland to be completely incompatible with their ideas and ambitions.
The Gaelic culture was largely an oral one, but you can’t know that the best things we’ve ever written have been in English, most of what was written in Irish was destroyed and some of the surviving Gaelic poetry is absolutely superb.
Most young nations make mistakes and go through periods of difficulty, just like young people, it doesn’t mean they should forego their independance or that they’re an incapable, hopeless case. You’re a good example of the self hating, brainwashed, anglo centric sort that has held this country back as much as any gombeen, johngahan.
I’ve little doubt had you been around during the famine, you’d have been in the employ of some British landlord and recommending that the natives were better off in the new colonies and that their language and religion was holding them back.
Mac – you watching England v Uraquay?
Back in them days they were called Yeomen….These days they are called West Brits….SF are the biggest group off them
Hopefully this type of carry on will not return
Never forget the horrific acts these people carried out. Would never consider voting for Sinn Fein while they still have a link to the IRA. Important that people don’t forget this
It’s important also to remember what drove men and women to turn to violence , don’t forget how irish men and women were treated in the six counties ,
This is exactly why I’d vote Sinn Fein
Enda. That’s exactly what Martin Luther King and John Hume said when they picked up their AK 47s………Oh, wait a minute.
And lets not forget the misery and horror the current shower of modern terrorists are inflicting upon the people of Ireland mahon.
When they marched in the six counties for civil rights they were battered off the streets , but still they marched , till they were shot down on the streets of Derry ,
Ah mike. SF/IRA cheerleader on the journal.
No Joe, that was Nelson Mandala
Enda, does your apologist stance extend to the IRA killers of Garda Gerry McCabe in 1996. The same murderers that sitting SF TD Martin Ferris collected from prison and whisked them away to a celebration party. Adams staunchly defended SF’s role. You’d have to assume that at some stage Adams would have shook their hands and said well done…
Well mahon, you and a few others are directly responsible for my vote (and countless others) going to Sinn Fein .
No joe its more important we move on
O Reilly , I don’t condone any violence , I feel sorry for all victims and their families , but you ve to look at what was happening in the six counties that caused this ,
Is that how you decide who to vote for? Bit silly really.
Enda, What had robbing a post office and shooting dead a Garda got to do with what was happening in the six counties? This was criminality and murder, nothing more. That you can’t see that speaks volumes…
Mike, you’d have a good career in the Seanad with your hysterical language. As for voting for a party with links to criminality and murder because you don’t like what some of us say, that’s a bit fickle. I’d also suggest you were more influenced by the legion of shinnerbots and SF reps that trawl here daily. You fell for their BS…
O Reilly all deaths in the troubles were wrong such as Gerry McCabe and the people shot on Bloody Sunday, them days are over with
Joe Mahon – On the basis of your logic, if you care to study your Irish History that is – you will be probably left with a choice between The Green Party and a couple of The Unionist Party factions in the Six Counties to vote for ?
I utterly condemn ALL violence , including any kind of State sponsored violence , but over an eighty year period of violence in this Country, there have been many awful incidents – while I can assure you that there is hardly a County in this Country which escaped the violence .
But we have learned from the shocking effects of it – The Good Friday Agreement is a mighty testament to this !
Again a reminder of actual History – The Population of Ireland overwhelmingly voted in its favour !
Enda that doesn’t justify the death of one innocent person never mind the thousands that where kill and almost 50000 injured .
‘them* days are over’ – and you know this how?
O’Reilly – Why do you & Mahon , on this thread, keep bringing up the work of Michael Collins in his shooting of multiple Police?
Wouldn’t you leave the man rest in peace ?
DING!!!
There’s Jerry McCabe mentioned. Now to mention Jean McConville and you will have completed your list of victims that you’ve ever heard off. Good going O’Reilly.
P.s. If you’re going to pretend to give a rats ass about the man you just referred to, you’d know his name was spelt “Jerry”, not “Gerry”.
Turned out well for martin all right
Jesus reply your a broken record.
What about Micheal Collins murder campaign?? bunch of hypocrites and cowards you lot are, maybe if you cowards did more to help the situation things might not have been as bad. Thankfully the war is over and we are trying to build the peace but it’s hard when people like you still feel and spread hate and can’t move on from it.
Mike
You are an apologist for Sinn Fein due to your educational deficit and a natural predilection for sickening violence as evidenced by your call this morning on these pages for young burglars to have their fingers hacked off as a means of punishment,
This falls right in line with punishment shootings ( ankles and knees ) tarring and feathering and beatings with baseball bats imbedded with nails. We will leave out the bone scarring torturing of the disappeared such as Mrs McConville.
I can see the Sinn Fein would demand the Ministry of Justice in their first Coalition success.
That’s the future you want Mike.
Gerry McCabe was murdered in cold blood by Gerry’s buddies. Bloody Sunday was a disgrace and its a shame the men who carried out those murders have not and will probably never be brought to justice!
You would swear the free state media were biased against Sinn Fein….
Free state?
Well Dermot, you wouldn’t call this a republic would you?
Ah yes, that all important 42nd anniversary.
I don’t remember any articles on here for the 41st anniversary, y’know, before SF were polling so well….
@ Christina: I see today is also the anniversary of another incident during the troubles where (unlike the incident above) people were actually killed. 2 people were killed on a bus by the UDA on the Crumlin Road ‘on this day in 1976′
Can we expect to read an article on this later?
39 years ago next Sunday is the anniversary of Christopher Phelans death, who died in Straffan, Kildare when stopping UVF volunteers from planting a bomb on the train line. I look forward to a piece on this anniversary but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Has the journal been taken over by INM, with a new directive to have an article a day celebrating the 29th, 36th anniversary or whatever of only incidents involving republicans. Pathetic by the Journal!
@Werejammin – you cult members are gas – to suggest that this site is anything but SF sympathies belies the actual truth.. and the amount of airtime your cult gets here is unreal. Are you ashamed of the actions of the IRA is against the cult line to mention the past? – any disparagement or any mention of anything not fitting in ‘with SF are great’ gets this sort of reaction from cult members like you – you remind be of scientologists. .. you even have your own leader for life in Adams… to compare a death squad killing to a bombing in london – also shows that you equate the two campaigns as equal… you are actually comparing the UDA and the IRA… laughable really.. one was a war the other was a sectarian death spree – well that used to be the SF party line.
I think 1974 from 2014 is 40 years – i’m not sure though.
Were jammin is pointing out the anomaly of what the Journal is doing the last few days. Rather than mark the 25th, 30th, 40th anniversary of events they are plucking events from any year that have to do with republicans, but not even events that led to killings. Yet there were events on these very days during the Troubles that led to deaths and yet the Journal ignore these events. The hidden agenda is obvious and the the reason why the Journal publish so many articles about SF is also very clear, as these stories tend to attract large numbers of readers and posts. So it does not matter how trivial the subject is they are only too happy to make a story out of it!
“Rather than mark the 25th, 30th, 40th anniversary of events they are plucking events from any year that have to do with republicans” – quite right… and 2014-1974 is 40 years.
Fair enough it is 40 years ago since this happened!
The journal is about the most pro Sinn Fein media outlet in the country. So don’t know what your talking about pat
@ inigo/pat
The original headline for this article stated 1972, this has since been changed to 1974. The original year posted is still viewable on the link for this page…
http://www.thejournal.ie/on-this-day-1972-ira-bomb-houses-of-parliament-1520010-Jun2014
@werejammin – well if i was the journalist involved i would be asking for an apology for your thesis was based out of the journal selecting a random date as a response to SF polling well… when in fact it was a common ‘what happend on this day 25, 40 50 100 years ago’ which is a common thread on the Journal.ie.
So, the READER should apologise for posting a comment based on an incorrect headline, to the JOURNALIST who posted the incorrect headline?
You YFG trolls crack me up…
@werejammin – but you seemed so good on the dates of the UDA that you didn’t know the date of the IRA bombing? – so you agree that the journal were not being biased? Just admit you were wrong and you besmirched the journalist.
By the way who is in YFG?
Inigo
Sinn Fein need to create the false idea that their critics are merely other Party supporters rather than ordinary members of the public sufficiently motivated and brave enough to challenge them. At every turn there is a threat to people who might want to say what’s on their mind.
It reminds me of the broadcasting ban put on Republicans during the Troubles. Now instead they impose their own version but with violence rather than a fine.
Richard – How’s your over active fiction writing going – where facts get tripped up in fictitious CV’s ?
This site is owned by the same people that own independent newspapers….
No its not….it’s actually the other way round…. (I don’t support sf but I can see this for what it is)
The UDA never killed anyone or did they??
SF/iRA. Where is the iRA? They’re gone its over they are finished and have gone down the political and peaceful route and because of this thousands of lives have now been saved. Sinn fein are trying at least to put it behind them and get on with main stream politics. Complete bollix with SF/iRA Its over you can’t change history.
IRA gone? You still living in Dallas – you naive cowboy!
Its over you clown get on with it. The only gangs saying they have links to the IRA are young criminals using the name f $ ck sake. Self confessed x leader of the IRA announced @a press conference yesterday the british open was coming to NI. Look forward not back.
Adams?
Bobby, an IRA distillery operation found and shut down in Dundalk last month. They haven’t gone away you know…
It’s not over Bobby for the thousands left to mourn and suffer
Not connected? Why does the Sinn Fein bookshop continue to sell tshirts saying ‘IRA UNDEFEATED ARMY’ (just checked, still there).
The facade is so transparent it’s pitiful.
why does easons sell 40 shades of gray, is it because its a cover up for a porn shop
Andrew, they sell photos of Old IRA Flying Columns too. Does that mean the Old IRA is still active too, yeah?
#numpty #readabook
@numpty is English slang. In Ireland we’d say “Amadán”.
Ohhhhh good comeback
Comeback? i’m merely pointing out an anomaly to a British subject who may not be au fait with our ways and customs.
You should just close this comments section. The shinner haters will be self-flagelatting with spiked leather whips when the wake up and see this.
Meanwhile in 2014 ffs
A sure lets pretend none of it happened
Scroll up Karl, one of your pals is ranting about the famine and 800 years. Meanwhile in 2014 IRA murderers are canvasing for Sinn Fein.
Sure why don’t you write a letter to Matt Carthy, Ron? Or to any of Sinn Féin’s four successful European candidates, and have a cry about it to them?
#its2014 #getwiththetimes
Multiple Fictitious Twitter Names out of The Blueshirt Defence Association and The Leave FG/Lab. Coalition Alone Society , on the PC’s this morning !
Look Michael Collins only operated with chocolate bullets ! He was never involved in any shootings per say ???
I have some Blueshirt Friends who glory in constantly bragging about his “exploits” !
Strange anomalies these FG Geeks !
They are probably not really your friends Kerry just afraid of you, being an IRA man and all that. As the Baron said about the likes of you “they haven’t gone away you know”
Thanks for your input Tyrone. It’s always nice when my British neighbors show an interest in the politics of my country.
Are you British Ron ? Your knowledge of history reflects that too a chara !
OK, another lad just out of the nappies. Why don’t you go and play or something, and leave the mature discussion to the adults?
Not my pal, Im not a shinner at all, nor a bitter stuck in the past sf hater either, two days in a row we’ve had these articles, meanwhile back in the real world……..
I never said that either
Kerry – You need to work on your reading comprehension and analytic skills (maybe you wasted too much time in school trying to master a chara[sic]).
I referred to “my British neighbors showing an interest in my country” in response to the British person commenting on which MEPs had been elected in The Republic of Ireland. A normal person could use this information to deduce that I am Irish.
British person – I’m old enough to remember when your leaders “valued” friend murdered that man and those two kids in Sligo and a lot more.
Ron – You need to work on your reading comprehension and analytic skills. I never commented on “on which MEPs had been elected in The Republic of Ireland”. I referred to Sinn Féin’s “FOUR successful European candidates”. Only three of these were in the 26 counties.
More to the point, the 26 counties you speak of are not called the “Republic of Ireland”. That is only the name of a soccer team. Read a book.
Ron North – In order to better understand your confusion of thoughts – who is ” The British Person” that you refer to ????
You seem to have missed the part of the comment that mentioned murdered children lads, that a powerful filter you have there.
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You say this every time you lose….
Two IRA bombing campaign articles in as many days. Is there a new recruitment drive or something?
Murdering cowards,
I hope the Irish government of the day apologised to the citizens of the UK for all the actions of these mindless murdering madmen,
NOT IN MY NAME!
But doesn’t ‘tiocfaidh ar la’ mean ‘in Hilary McDuffy’s name’?
No – its just a stupid comment, like yours….
@Hilary, what a dumb comment. You really are a thick with a comment like that. You clearly are not Irish and have obviously no knowledge of Irish History. Definitely the dumbest comment of the Year.
Do you not think that the British government and the Royal family should be handing out apologises for the scorched eath policies of the Virgin Queen. Government policy during the famine era. Slavery. Northern Ireland . The list is endless, our language and population . Really Hillary what world do you live in
Kenzie, you have clearly shown yourself to be the dumb idiot who lives on another planet – and does not consider Hillary worthy of an opinion…
@Glen Hoddle, and where is your opinion ?? on the subject. I have backed up mine. Clearly you haven’t got an educated response apart from your little one liners that are based on pure conjecture. Run along.
Kenzie – the opinions of others mean nothing to you, remember?
My view is simple; the IRA are murdering thugs. Remember Omagh, just one example.
The IRA didn’t care who they murdered – even their own!!!!!
Glen, you’re exposing your own astonishing level of ignorance. Before engaging in a debate, you should at lease learn the basics. Omagh was bombed by dissidents, not by the IRA. Those who bombed Omagh would happily have killed Adams/McGuinness, given the chance. The IRA were several years into their ceasefire in 1998 and were regarded as traitors by those who carried out Omagh.
#readabook
@Glen Hoddle, correct Omagh was disgraceful but who in their right mind would say otherwise.. You have a myopic view of history. You have heard of the UVF and the UDA. The B Specials , the Shankill butchers who murdered Catholics indiscriminately. Where is your outrage Glenn. Furthermore if you want to know about the British globally maybe read a book or two. Look up Roger Casement ???.
Finally, remind me who murdered more civilians during the trouble Glen ???
What a stupid name and comment? Do you not realise that all these freaks are the same? If you wish, change Omagh for Birmingham, London or…………
Ha….a difference of opinion from kenzie and Gael….
@ glen hoddle: “the IRA are murdering thugs. Remember Omagh”
The omagh bombing was carried out by the real IRA. The IRA were signed up to the Good Friday Agreement at this stage and played no part in the bombing.
You were obviously only in nappies at the time, but please get your facts straight when commenting on such a serious matter.
From the Wikipedia article on “The Troubles”:
According to Malcolm Sutton’s Index of Deaths from the Conflict in Ireland:
Of those killed by British security forces:
187 (~51.5%) were civilians
145 (~39.9%) were members of republican paramilitaries
18 (~4.9%) were members of loyalist paramilitaries
13 (~3.5%) were fellow members of the British security forces
Of those killed by republican paramilitaries:
1080 (~52%) were members of the British security forces
728 (~35%) were civilians
187 (~9%) were members of republican paramilitaries
56 (~2.7%) were members of loyalist paramilitaries
10 (~0.4%) were members of the Irish security forces
Of those killed by loyalist paramilitaries:
868 (~85.4%) were civilians
93 (~9%) were members of loyalist paramilitaries
41 (~4%) were members of republican paramilitaries
14 (~1.3%) were members of the British security forces
So we can see that most of the people killed by loyalists were civilians (85% of those killed by the loyalists), and of those killed by the Republicans, 35% were civilians. In fact, loyalist killed more civilians than the republicans did.
728 civilians killed in the troubles by republican paramilitaries.
868 civilians killed by loyalist paramilitaries.
So both in terms of sheer numbers and percentage of killings, loyalist more closely fit the description of “murdering cowards”. Got that, Hilary? Journal? We all clear on that now? OK. Looks like a great day to get out and enjoy the sunshine. Get out wit ye.
So dissidents are the same organisation as the provos?! If you have to rely on lies to support your argument, you are seriously compromising your position.
As the old saying goes: “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience”.
@Glen, go and stand in the corner like a good boy. As clearly you are not listening to anyone’s viewpoint only your own. A Big D for you Glen.
Glen – Just in interests of accuracy .
the awful bombing in Omagh was , I recall carried out after The Good Friday Agreement .
Certainly , it’s my historically accurate recollection , that the IRA were not involved !
You have some History study to do Glen ?
IRA not involved? Names are unimportant m8…….
Glen, you realise what splits are? Dissidents broke away from the IRA over fundamental differences. They became two diametrically opposed organisations. One was on ceasefire and involved in building a peace process, the other bombed Omagh.
By your logic, there was only one side taking part in the civil war, because, sure they all USED to come from the same organisation anyway, eh.
Grow up. Read a book.
” Names are unimportant m8…….”
As are facts to some people, apparently….
It’s
Murder is murder the struggle wasn’t ever recognised as a legit war, it was all to do with bigots and the struggle in their minds, as I said previously mindless mad men the lot of them,
Wow! Don’t ever confuse Irish Republicans with post ’86 Sinn Feiners….
When did the split occur?
And some people want SF/IRA in government!!!
Looks like a stroke is affecting your pfc.
Dear The Journal,
Drop the shameless propaganda. On this day in 1973, Joseph Kelly, an innocent nationalist was murdered by the UFF. On this day in 1976, two innocent nationalists, Brendan Meehan & Gereard Stitt, were murdered by the UDA while sitting on a bus on the Crumlin Road. I could go on. The fact that you produce an article about the events of the troubles “on this day” and make no mention of people like this, but rather dedicate the whole article to an IRA bomb with no loss of life, says it all.
Dear Muppet – why do you compare the IRA to the UDA/UFF?
What made them Nationalists?….is it because they were Catholic?….maybe they had more interest in Man U or Liverpool than politics?
42nd anniversary? How nice of the Journal to celebrate!
FG/TheJournal spin doctors at it again, Looks like the The Journal is well rutted in FG’s wallet. I remember that day well I also remember a ff man from Donnycarney saying over a few pints (well fair play to them) Question for all you know it all’s right start digging into your archives Question was Enda Kenny in the UVF at the time or was he in the UDA?
SF have an alert out that when there’s an IRA story they send an SMS alert to their bots to red thumb negative comments and green thumb pro terrorist murder comments.
Run along and let the adults have a debate here.
No they don’t….Their blind followers think they are all part of a huge electoral machine when they have only voted in 1 local election….The reality is they are all only Sprat.
Good morning, everyone!
Sinn Fein must be up in the polls again?
@The Journal here is some news that you missed when you had you were so busy waving the butcher’s apron. Post-exam stripper event sends ‘wrong message’
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/post-exam-stripper-event-sends-lsquowrong-messagersquo-272340.html
i hope not pal….dont forget wat they were fighting for…
Deliberately targeting and blowing up civilians as they went about their daily lives was not “fighting”
Well done journal yet another day of bullish#t hate.
The hate and contempt for republicans on here is sickening
Not a drop of blood was split when this state was formed.
Loyalists and nationalist are moving on from the troubles yet it seems people south of the border can’t and refuse to.
It was the anversary of the death of bobby sands in may but didn’t see and articles saying on this day!
This is just to cause friction and hate nothing more.
Westminster was bombed during the war and now Sinn Fein have offices in the House of Commons during the peace process-the speaker of that house refused to invite Sinn Fein to a function yesterday because Sinn Fein refuse to take the oath- but that’s just politics- or is it-
May we never forget these abhorrent crimes
Gavin, remind me again….how did the 26 counties achieve independence without using violence?
Comparing the men and women who died and fought for our independence to cowards who shot and blew up completely innocent people because their views were incompatible with theirs simply doesn’t make sense to me.
Ah so the Old IRA didn’t shoot or blow up anyone? And especially didn’t blow up anyone who’s views were incompatible with theirs? One wonders why they shot dead ten protestants in Dunmanway in 1922, then. In the space of three years, in Cork alone, 49 Protestant civilians were shot dead, with quite a few of these having their bodies “disappeared”. But sure why not go back in time a few years again, to 1916? Did they use water balloons at the Easter Rising just? And remind me again – where was the mandate for the Easter Rising to occur, again?
Ah – Please let our hero Michael Collins alone – I beg you ?
He only used chocolate bullets !!!!!!!!!!
Gavin – We in Kerry still remember Ballyseedy, when The Free State Army carried out one of the worse atrocities of the last ninety years – please explain and justify ?
And speaking of “the disappeared”, I’m sure you are well aware that just one Brigade of the Old IRA, who “fought and died for your independence”, the First Cork Brigade, disappeared over 5 times more bodies in the space of a few short years, than the Provos did in 40 years. I’m sure too, that you’re more than aware of the three Protestants near Bandon in 1922, who were forced from their home and made dig their own graves?
Gavin – Remember Ballyseedy – or maybe it doesn’t suit your argument ?
Justifying recent terrorism with actions taken during the war of independence still doesn’t cut it for me I’m afraid.
Applying different moral standards to the same actions doesn’t cut it with me. Now when you get a minute from being blinded by your own staggering levels of hypocrisy, any chance you could answer my questions? Starting with the Easter Rising, perhaps. Where did the mandate come from for this?
I don’t feel the need to waste time legitimising the 1916 rising. It is an almost universally held view that it was a legitimate rebellion and everyone that did primary school history knows the reasons why. I’m not typing them out when they’re so broadly available by a simple google search.
Ah now don’t be a coward. Prove to me you’re not a hypocrite and are capable of substantiating your arguments with more than a “sure everyone knows blah blah blah”.
Bearing in mind that thanks to people like yourself, the Rising was deeply unpopular when it occurred, so just explain to me where the mandate for the Easter Rising was achieved? Simple, straight forward question.
And turf it’s dangerous stuff
Your a silly idiot alright,
See the man in your profile pic read up about what happened to his family.
Who is it? The picture is too small on my phone
Our dear president Micheal d Higgins
My oh my, take a look at yourselves!
Mindless moronic savages.
Yes PS – whether its the IRA, disadent IRA or cowboy IRA. Some people like to pretend they’re all completely different. /
“Disadent”?
Thanks for yet another awesome demonstration of your brainpower.
Glen Hoddle – And you pretend to be a British Footballer of the past ?????
He doesn’t pretend, its just a screen name. You do type an awful lot of rubbish and are completely unable to accept that others will disagree with you. Insults seem your only response and you keep telling posters to grow up!
Paul, how do you propose engaging in logical discussion with someone who thinks that the PIRA and dissidents are the same organisation?
Glen Hoddle was one of them class footballers always too broken up to play
They might well be the same, at least in part. Are you sure they’re not! In any event, Hoddle is entitled to his opinion; just like you are.
Paul, it’s not an opinion, it’s a lie. For instance, if I tried to tell you that today was Friday, then that would not just be some opinion that i’d be entitled to hold, it would be a lie.
“They might well be the same”?! Is that why they are forever making death threats to Martin McGuinness, yeah? You do realise that dissident republicanism came into existence over it’s diametrically opposed views to the Provos decision to back a peace process? And that this makes them about as close to being “the same” as the Old IRA the Free State Forces were during the civil war??
Do yourself a huge favour and read a book, you’re making a complete and utter fool of yourself.
Apartheid brings out the worst in everyone, doesn’t it?
Gael – death threats to McGuinness? You’d believe anything m8. Anything that would help your bigot’s argument….
On this day in 1994:
http://youtu.be/HcyyCi2b2AY
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