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DONALD TRUMP IS the president-elect of the United States of America.
We’ve been taking you through the declarations, the results and the speeches.
Stay with us for all the reaction through the day.
Good morning, folks.
Paul Hosford here taking you through the final hours of this crazy election. As it stands, this map shows the state of play.
Not only does Donald Trump look set to become President, he will likely have control of the House of Representatives, the Senate and the Supreme Court of the USA.
Read about the Congressional races here.
Right-wing French politician Marine Le Pen has congratulated Trump and the “free American people” on his impending victory.
There it is. The Associated Press has declared Donald Trump the winner of Pennsylvania.
All of a sudden, Hillary Clinton’s “blue wall” is crumbling.
Grey’s Anatomy actor Jesse Williams has been a vocal critic of Trump’s and he’s not stopping today.
It’s very early, but there will be myriad discussions about what Trump’s victory means for everything.
From the US voting map, to polling, to “elites”.
But those think-pieces will have to wait until later, as we still await results from a number of states including Michigan.
CBS reports Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta is heading to Clinton HQ at the Javits Centre to “rally the troops”.
Podesta will tell supporters it’s “too close to call”.
Clinton takes four electoral votes in the northeastern state of Maine. She now trails by 264 votes to 219.
Any single state from Arizona, Minnesota, Wisconsin or Michigan would put Trump over the top.
John Podesta has taken the stage at the Javits Centre.
He tells Clinton supporters that they’re “still counting votes” and “several states are too close to call”.
He tells supporters to “head home” and “get some sleep”.
Could we be looking at recounts?
So, Clinton isn’t conceding – tonight, at least.
What does that mean? Probably a few requests for recounts. Florida and Pennsylvania were pretty close, while Michigan and Wisconsin might be the same.
Van Jones on CNN gave a heartfelt speech about how some people are taking the result.
“It’s hard to be a parent tonight, for a lot of us,” he said.
“You have people putting children to bed tonight and they’re afraid of breakfast.”
“How do you explain this to your children? I’ve had Muslim friends who are texting me tonight, saying, ‘should I leave the country?
We’ve talked about everything but race tonight.
“This was a whitelash – this was a whitelash against a changing country. It was whitelash against a black president, in part. And that’s the part where the pain comes.”
It’s been said plenty of times before, but markets like stability and for them Clinton was stability.
In the face of a Trump victory, the dollar is tumbling.
The Mexican peso also fell to a record low as safe haven assets rallied, with gold soaring more than five percent, while fears about the impact on financial markets led Japanese and South Korean authorities to each call crisis talks.
If you’re heading to the US, your euro will get you $1.12 this morning.
Across the US, there were a number of issues on the ballot – from marijuana, gun control and the death penalty.
Associated Press has called the race.
Donald Trump will be President after winning Wisconsin.
Come on over, Mia, we’ll make you tea and toast.
And that’s it.
Donald Trump has been elected President of the United States.
Vice-President elect Mike Pence is now speaking in New York ahead of an expected speech by Donald Trump.
Trump’s victory speech was largely on-message, as he pledged to be “the President for all Americans”.
Trump added that he wanted to tap America’s “untapped potential” and said the “forgotten Americans will be forgotten no more”.
The New Yorker cartoon today is probably aimed at someone. But who?
You know what’s important in elections? Momentum – “the big mo”.
Clinton seemed to have it around 12 hours ago. Then, it all changed.
After the Brexit result much was made about the divergence in votes between young and old.
It looks like the US had much the same thing.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has congratulated Donald Trump, hoping to work with him to improve relations, the Kremlin said in a statement.
Putin “expressed hope for mutual work on bringing US-Russia relations out of their critical condition” and said that “building constructive dialogue” would be in the interest of both countries and the world community, Putin says.
Aoife with you now on the liveblog.
On CNN they’re analysing what Trump can do now that he has power – there’s a lot of “negative energy” in the country says one analyst, while another says that what he has in story will be “an anathema” to a lot of Americans.
For now, that’s all speculation – but based on Trump’s pledges during his campaign.
Independent TD Michael Healy-Rae has released a statement on Donald Trump’s election, wishing him well:
More comments from Irish TDs in – this time from Junior Health Minister Finian McGrath, who told my colleague Cianan Brennan:
“Well, I’m a democrat, I accept the will of the American people, I have never agreed with Trump, but we have to accept that this is what’s happened and that’s it.”
Regarding Trump and the Irish government, McGrath said:
The Irish government will be very pragmatic – there will be no change in the relationship between the Americans and us.
This footage has been emerged from Berkeley, California, of students protesting the result:
(Can’t see the video? Click here)
The protest has been going on for a few hours, with reports from the scene saying around 200 or so students are taking part.
If you’re looking for left-wing analysis, the New Yorker’s most-read story today is An American Tragedy by David Remnick.
It’s a tough read:
On January 20, 2017, we will bid farewell to the first African-American President—a man of integrity, dignity, and generous spirit—and witness the inauguration of a con who did little to spurn endorsement by forces of xenophobia and white supremacy. It is impossible to react to this moment with anything less than revulsion and profound anxiety.
On the other side of the coin, over on Breitbart.com they describe Trump as an “outsider candidate” who “overcame overwhelming odds to defeat establishment, Clinton”.
Never ones to miss an opportunity to wear their hearts on their doughnuts, Dublin doughnut shop Aungier Danger have brought out these treats today (sensitive to swearing? Look away now)
British Prime Minister Theresa May has congratulated Trump.
In a statement, British Prime Minister Theresa May said: “Britain and the United States have an enduring and special relationship based on the values of freedom, democracy and enterprise.
“We are, and will remain, strong and close partners on trade, security and defence.
I look forward to working with President-elect Donald Trump, building on these ties to ensure the security and prosperity of our nations in the years ahead.
Over on Twitter, we’ve put together a Moment on how Irish people reacted to Trump’s presidential victory – check it out below:
Taoiseach Enda Kenny has congratulated Trump in this statement:
The Government of Canada’s citizen and immigration website hasn’t been working properly this morning – which many are putting down to people wanting to jump ship from the US.
The government hasn’t officially commented on it however, so we don’t know yet if that is in fact the case.
And after a few tries, we were eventually able to get the site working ourselves:
This Rachel Maddow short-but-to-the-point commentary on Trump’s win has been doing the rounds:
We’ve rounded up the biggest moments of the US election here:
And we’ve taken a look at how the Irish government could deal with a President Trump:
Taken part in our poll yet? We’re asking:
Do you think Ireland’s relationship with the US will change after Trump’s victory?
Here’s the state of play so far:
Have your say here.
Jeremy Corbyn has put out a statement on Trump’s win – and describe it as “an unmistakeable rejection of a political establishment and an economic system that simply isn’t working for most people”.
Corbyn goes on to say:
But some of Trump’s answers to the big questions facing America, and the divisive rhetoric around them, are clearly wrong.
Musician Lady Gaga has been seen protesting outside Trump Tower in New York this morning:
Gaga had appeared at a Hillary Clinton in the last week and was at Javits Centre earlier today.
Michelle Hennessy here taking over the reins of the liveblog. It’s the calm after the storm right now, as everyone looks back at how the night unfolded.
Trump’s first tweet as President-elect of the United States:
We’ve noticed he has also changed his Twitter bio and installed an understated header…
We heard from Trump earlier, but Hillary Clinton still has not spoken publicly – not even to thank her supporters.
Her campaign chairman John Podesta told supporters at her victory party to go home last night and reporters have been told she is currently still at the Peninsula Hotel in Manhattan.
He hasn’t even moved into the White House yet and it looks like Michelle Mulherin wants to invite Trump over here:
German’s Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier had a rather disheartening reaction to Trump’s win.
“I think we must expect that American foreign policy will become less predictable for us and we must expect that the United States will be more inclined to make decisions on its own,” he said.
In other words, and I will not dress it up, nothing will become easier, many things will become more difficult.
Don’t forget, we’re asking what you guys think over on our open thread. Here’s what some of you are saying so far about the shock result:
Want to have your say? Head over to the open thread and leave your thoughts in the comments…
So, now we’re all asking: What next? And what kind of president will Donald Trump be?
We had a word with Eamon Dunphy about the election when he was in the office recently. He said if Trump won, he’d become a “pussy cat”.
Patrick Kent, president of the Irish Cattle and Sheep Farmers’ Association (ICSA) has an interesting take on it all.
In a statement this morning, he pointed said “unfair free trade deals” had hurt ordinary people and benefited big business and warned Irish politicians to pay attention.
The pandering to big business has got to stop. The EU Commission and all EU and national politicians need to stop looking for excuses and get tough with multinational retailers, food and drink processors and input suppliers who, between them, are driving our beef, sheep and tillage farmers to despair and over the edge.
“I don’t for one minute suggest that Donald Trump will be a panacea for all ills, but it is clear that normal politics needs to shape up very quickly and figure out why so many ordinary people are voting for change, even if that change is something as unpalatable as Mr Trump,” he added.
Speaking to RTÉ’s Seán O’Rourke about Trump’s victory, former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern said “we need to have a bit of a love-in with his people very quickly”.
To the best of my knowledge – and I still visit the United States a bit – we don’t have any connections with his team. When he was going to come here some months ago when he was in Scotland during his campaign for his business interests… I think it was probably made clear to him that he’d get a hostile reception here, so that dropped off his itinerary.
His concerns in relation to Trump centre around the undocumented Irish, Brexit, Apple’s tax affairs and multinational companies in a general sense.
In times of uncertainty, you can always trust Paddy Power to help put things into perspective:
Some more reaction coming in from Irish ministers. Transport Minister Shane Ross told reporters in Dublin that once someone is democratically elected “we have to accept that fact and deal with them as a democratically elected president”.
Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government, Simon Coveney, said the Irish government will have to “work with the democratic reality that is there.”
He described Trump’s comments in his victory speech earlier as “generous”.
“They are aimed at unifying people after one of the most bitter campaigns that I can ever remember.”
When asked if he would like to see him coming on a visit to Ireland soon, he replied: “Of course I would”.
I think we should always welcome a US leader to Ireland. The relationship between Ireland and the US is arguably a more special relationship than the US has with any other country. That is valuable, it needs to be maintained, and that will certainly happen and this government will work towards ensuring that happens.
Anti-Austerity-Alliance TD Ruth Coppinger has also been having her say on the result in the Dail today.
She branded the US President-elect “a racist, a misogynist and homophobe and many other things besides”.
Coppinger said solidarity was needed from Ireland with minorities and others in the US who may be worried and in fear over Trump’s presidency.
The Taoiseach said he had previously stated comments Trump had made were racist. But he said he listened to Trump say earlier today that he wanted “to heal wounds” and that he supported that.
Our own president has made a statement on the outcome of the election.
Michael D Higgins said Ireland has had a “long and deep connection with the United States and its people”.
“I have conveyed my best wishes to President-elect Donald Trump, wishing him and the American people every good fortune for his term in office.”
It looks like we might hear Clinton’s first public remarks in just over an hour…
Sinéad O’Carroll taking over the liveblog this afternoon as we are still glued to the US networks, taking in all the reaction to a Trump POTUS.
My colleague Aoife Barry has been examining probably the most important part of the Republican’s campaign – his slogan.
What made it so powerful to some and so worrying to others?
“Make America Great Again connects with the patriotic, American dream-focused attitude of those who herald their great country. But it also sparks fears of a return to an America where ‘great’ equaled power for some, but not for all – and a fierce fight needed for progression,” she writes.
Where Ohio goes…
We had been hearing a lot about the swing states that would decide this election – and Trump came out a winner in all the important ones.
There were shocks, in particular, when Wisconsin (blue since 1988) and Pennsylvania (blue since 1992) turned red for Trump.
Here’s the lowdown:
Video: Nicky Ryan
Need some cheering up?
These lads were all born at the neonatal unit at a University Maternity Hospital Limerick in recent weeks and PJ Corbett rounded up the quads, triplets, twins and a ‘singleton’ for a photo shoot today.
In a statement released today, the hospital said it is the first time the unit has cared for sets of quads, triplets and twins at the same time.
Read more about the beauts here.
Where is Hillary?
She’s due to give her concession speech in public at 10.30am (3.30pm Irish time).
Spokesperson Jennifer Palmieri confirmed to reporters that she will speak in New York City.
The Washington Post‘s media columnist has been looking at the role journalists have had to play in the Trump victory.
Margaret Sullivan writes:
Make no mistake. This is an epic fail. And although eating crow is never appealing, we’ll be digesting feathers and beaks in the next weeks and months — and maybe years.
She says that journalists didn’t create Trump but they left him unchecked for months with ‘unfiltered exposure’. They didn’t take those voters in the red states seriously enough – and retreated to their liberal, urban homes in New York City, LA and DC quickly.
And she adds:
We wanted to believe in a country where decency and civility still mattered, and where someone so crude, spiteful and intemperate could never be elected — because America was better than that.
This one is doing the rounds in Ireland with over 9,000 shares and 8,000 likes on Facebook.
“We could shoot him, it’s not a bad idea.”
That was the surprising suggestion from David Attenborough (of all people) earlier this month when asked about dealing with Donald Trump if he won.
Speaking to the Radio Times, he said:
“Well, we lived through that with earlier presidents – they’ve been equally guilty… But what alternative do we have? Do we have any control or influence over the American elections? Of course we don’t.”
The interviewer then said he giggled and in a quiet voice added: ”We could shoot him, it’s not a bad idea.”
As we wait on Hillary, here’s a reminder of what the White House has had to say today.
“The President will make a statement on Wednesday at the White House to discuss the election results and what steps we can take as a country to come together after this hard-fought election season,” a statement read.
The President invited the President-elect to meet with him at the White House on Thursday 10 November to update him on the transition planning his team has been working on for nearly a year.
“Ensuring a smooth transition of power is one of the top priorities the President identified at the beginning of the year and a meeting with the President-elect is the next step.”
It is understood Obama congratulated Trump on his victory.
We’ll have Hillary in the next few minutes and then…
They’ve actually pushed back Hillary’s concession speech again. It will now be held at 4pm Irish time.
Bill Cullen – who was the star of the Irish version of The Apprentice – has said he thinks Donald Trump is a ‘great guy’ and that he would have voted for him.
“I would vote for him if I was over there. You just have to look at him… he’s strong, he went bankrupt and he’s back again; it’s terrific,” he told Ray D’Arcy on RTÉ Radio One.
I don’t think himself will be able to do anything here. I don’t think he likes Ireland.
Listen to the full interview here.
Still no sign of Hillary… it’s like waiting for white smoke in the Vatican.
Republican Paul Ryan – who was lukewarm on the party’s candidacy – is speaking now, saying he has pulled off a political feat.
He heard voices that nobody else was, he added, saying he is excited about “where we are”.
He noted that he had spoken to him and ‘his good friend’ Pence twice over the past 18 hours.
“I think President-elect Donald Trump set the perfect tone last night… this needs to be a time of redemption, not recrimination,” he told journalists in Wisconsin.
The networks have gone live to the Clinton event in New York, where her election team have been waiting all morning.
It is now 11.30am in the US – incredibly late to be making a concession speech.
There are a lot of sad faces, even tears, in the crowd.
We have action at the Clinton event. A standing ovation is given to defeated VP-candidate Tim Kaine and his wife Ann.
He says that he is proud of Hillary Clinton.
“She has made history in a nation… where it is uniquely difficult for a woman to be elected to federal office,” he added.
Kaine looks at the positives of the campaign – that she won the popular vote across the country for one.
Kaine looks incredibly emotional as he talks about the team that Clinton put together for the campaign.
The team… of people who are so deeply loyal to her because she is so deeply loyal to them is… remarkable.
He thanked her for asking him and his wife to join this “wild ride”.
He remembers their three hours of conversation with the Clinton family as they made a decision on whether they would run.
Clinton has arrived on stage with Bill and Chelsea.
She hugs the Kaines, stands and smiles at the podium.
She receives a rapturous applause, joking that a rowdy crowd is in.
“I know how disappointed you feel because I do too,” Clinton says, while choking
“This is painful and it will be for a long time.”
Clinton acknowledges that the glass ceiling – the highest and hardest of them all – has not been smashed.
She says she hopes that it will be some day sooner than we believe it could be now.
She finishes her speech with a quote from scripture.
“Let us have faith in each other, let us not grow weary… there are more seasons to come and more work to do. I am incredibly honoured and grateful… May God Bless You. And May God Bless the United States of America.”
Clinton has spoken about Obama’s years in the White House, allowing Donald Trump to lead for the next four years and how she still has hopes the glass ceiling will be smashed soon.
Meanwhile, we’ve received a Thank You email from the man himself.
President Obama, flanked by VP Joe Biden is speaking now at the White House.
“I know everybody had a long night… I know I did,” he says. He notes that the sun still came up this morning, something he promised would happen (the only big of prognostication that was correct, he joked).
Obama skirts around the issue of Trump winning, skipping onto what will happen between now and inauguration day.
He says that it is no secret there are significant differences between himself and Donald Trump.
But he learned from George Bush’s team who were gracious and professional during the handover in 2008.
It is how he has instructed his team to behave over the next three months.
A fairly flat Obama winds his way around a speech in which he tries not to put too much emphasis on Trump’s victory or Hillary’s loss.
He speaks about being proud of Clinton and how excellent she was in her role at the State Department.
He tries to quell worries about a Trump presidency.
“The point is, we all go forward with the presumption of good faith in our fellow citizens… that good faith is essential to a vibrant democracy,” he says.
“That’s how we’ve expanded the rights of our founding to reach all of our citizens. That’s how we’ve come this far,” adding that he is confident the journey will go on.
“I have said this before but I think of this job as being a relay runner… You take the baton, you run your best race, and hopefully you’ve… made a little progress.”
Well, it’s really just starting but we’re going to say good evening and goodbye to you all now, from this liveblog.
It’s been quite a week.
Stay with TheJournal.ie as we bring you more analysis, reaction and opinion about what is happening to our neighbours.
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I do not believe those scaremongering costs for one blink of an eyelid. Propaganda.
Rory
What aspect is scaremongering ?
I’m scared
I work in the industry. The costs are real. Secondly why would they lie. They want to build houses after all. The building industry has ground to a halt. What other proof do you need.
So the gov can’t build houses because it will interfere in the market but the builders want them to interfere in the market for them? I’m confused.
Nick Allen, it is intended to justify high prices and scare off first time buyers. It is classic scaremongering, it suits the developers only to the detriment of buyers.
Rory where’s you evidence. I work in the trade and the costs aren’t far off. People want to believe developers are still creaming it. Unfortunately that’s not the case anymore and is why many developers are holding off till prices rise before starting any houses.
Until negative equity ends, there will be no end to the housing crisis!
US president recognized this 5 years ago – until “Steve and Rachael” are able to move on there isn’t going to be any recovery.
Why would anyone take a variable/ fixed mortgage at the rate the banks here are charging 4 – 6%!! When European lending rates are at less than 2% – why would anyone take on the subsidizing of tracker mortgage holders!
I think it’s Rachel and Steve
Hmmm.. It’s Steve and Rachel
Rachel & Steve
The most unforgivable thing about the housing national emergency is the fact that it was avoidable. All it took was joined up thinking and a plan which benefitted the 99% rather than the 1%. But FG/labour left it up to the almighty free market, and now look where we are…..
And what was that plan?
So how was it avoidable? What was the joined up thinking they didn’t do? I remember when the ERSI pointed out the housing would hit a crisis a few years ago and.people were laughing about how ridiculous that was and it was just talking up a boom. The general public didn’t see the need for investment in property then when it could be done. Politicians would have had to fight very hard to push that. Public pressure both ways influence policy
It wasn’t anything to do with the free market. It was cronyism plain and simple, which is the absolute antithesis of the free market.
Kal, they could have listened to the ESRI’s advice on the matter. They didn’t.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THWbrFy5NWM
If you ever saw made up figures they are the ones above, absolute rubbish. Check with any builder, 8.200 Euro per house sales, and marketing. plus many many more made up rubbish. Can a real BUILDER without any bias please tell me I am right… This article is on the sindo quoting the figures for a build site with 30 houses upwards!
Alan, nowhere in that report does it say that we were going to have a housing crisis.
It’s from 2000.
The housing crisis has been caused by the lack of credit to developers over the past few years, due to many being greedy and thinking that the boom would last forever.
Also, coming from the Construction industry, many of these smaller developers had no experience in the industry and had no idea about the quality assurance that is required.
For Connelly, I’m with Mark and Kal here.
What was this joined up thinking you mentioned?
Your comment seems like a lot of rhetoric and hyperbole, but no substance to the comment at all, simply a thumb fishing exercise.
# John Clark. That 8200 sales and marketing cost includes doing up show houses. I looked over the figures and there not far off the Mark. I am a builder and people still think you can get a house built for 75 euro for a square foot. Those days are gone. New building regs have pushed that way up. Airtightness, higher insulation, higher spec heating systems, building compliance etc all add to cost. People need to realise that the builders that priced undercost to keep going are now gone under. Good value is still there but realistic prices are the norm now.
all the materials builders use are the cheepers and low quality in any case. period.
Eduard. There is no such thing as low quality materials. If a builder does bad work it won’t be long before the client or architect pulls him up on it. Bad builders soon get found out
Ah you could get 3 of these shoeboxes for the price of one traveller specific house.
At this pace when all houses are built they might not be needed!!!! or maybe no one will be able to afford them!!!
The only solution in my point of view is the Government setting a non-profitable building society and releasing agricultural land for housing purpose. But I am afraid this will never happen!! as most of them are landlords and have plenty of interest to keep things as they are.
Hate the way builders skimp out on front gardens
They want to set up a BANK. Amazing ! They have the AiB and no one wants to buy it. The banking industry worldwide is on it’s knees.
And cut tax on housing. Sure where could it go wrong?
I don’t believe this propaganda from a vested interest for a second.
Off you go and build some houses then. Let us know how it goes.
A builder/developer will build a modest house in Ireland for roughly a hundred euro per square foot.that is also producing a handsome wage to the builder/developer.if the average house is 1,200 square foot that’s say 120000 euro plus land plot and fees,you should really be selling at 200/220k mark.so how are they expecting another 100k extra per unit.pure greed again has set in
@dickdastardly – no, you won’t. I price houses all day long, and I’m neither in CIF nor SCSI, so I have no axe to grind one way or the other.
A client of mine got a quote for a built in Meath yesterday at €142/sq – and that was €40sq ft BELOW what his bank EXPECTED.
Current pricing per m2 is €1300 – €1600 (€130 – €160/ft2)
Really John. I was recently quoted upwards of €50k for a small 12sq m kitchen extension on a 3 bed semi in Dublin. That was not including the kitchen. Just a builders finish. It is pure greed on the builders behalf!
I built a 4 bedroom story and a half detached house, 2500 sqf with a detached 2 car garage on a half acre site at the height of the boom for 250k. All internal block walls and bison slabs. Granted the site was slightly cheaper than 57k ( half that price ). Built by direct labour and includes all associated legal and architect fees. There’s no way it would cost a developer 330k to build a timber framed shoe box on a 1/4 acre site.
Did you read the article? They didn’t say they cost 330k to build. You also didn’t have to pay employer prsi, pension, sick leave etc… Regulations have increased greatly so building standards are both higher and more costly. Were you labourers in Dublin where wages are higher then the rest of the country?
People really need to learn how to apply their experience.
My apologies, I could have sworn the story started with ‘Builders need more that 330,000 to construct a single house in the greater Dublin area’. Take their margin out its still way too much for what the end buyer is getting. I didn’t pay employer prsi, pension, sick leave etc (although I’m fairly confident neither does any other labourer in Dublin receive sick leave). All those costs were built into the price I received from each tradesman. Regulation and especially standards haven’t risen that much to justify such a cost. A 3bedroom 1200 sqf timber frame house on a 1/4 acre site would not cost this to construct as a one off never mind on a site of 30+.
@Padraich – I’m sure you did. As did I (2007). How a 9 year old price is even remotely relevant escapes me.
@PMcL … well done .. avoid financial predators … put your future in good hands … YOUR OWN. Starter homes in France €160,000 including site.
Only long term Irish solution is a Referendum on “Right2home” like in German Constitution else your kids and grand kids will continue to be abused by financial predators into the future ..
I agree John. Everything is cheaper now due to the recession.
Agreed NK62F
Nice margin for building one house!
11% on risking 300k and a 10 year liability seems like a good margin to you? I take it you don’t run a bussiness
@Dominick – will you give me €330k on that basis, so I can build, seeing as you have the inside track on margins ?
This headline is not very accurate. The cost of building a home is based on cost per metre squared. The developer should already own the land. Maybe they’re over estimating the value of land
If a developer can get X amount for a house and costs for him are cut. He’s not going to reduce the price. He’ll still charge X amount. The only benefit will be to developer who’ll trouser the profit.
But at least he’ll actually build a house and add to the housing stock which will help house someone and maybe put some downward pressure on rents.
Build outside Dublin who in their right mind would want to live in that shit hole
People with jobs there, presumably.
Plenty of rednecks, still smarting, yet humbled!
Only for the rednecks the old Jackeens would starve to death .
Number of nice 2 storey log houses available prepackaged, finished within 3 months, average 65k , so why cant i have one? Planning, Bribes and the price of sites? Controlled by others.
Buy a house are you crazy :)
Poor, poor developers. Someone should have start a charity to help these poor unfortunates, or at least a collection, maybe pass around an ashtray in the pub?
The public good has to come into play. Agricultural land around our cities has to be compulsory purchased at agricultural land prices. Tough on some of the farmers but necessary if the lives of an entire generation is not to be blighted and destroyed. 57 000 per acre is not remotely sustainable. The farmer’s will have to be faced down in court if necessary. The money for cpo’s would be found for motor ways, it can be found for houses. Also zero rate vat for 10 years on building house’s, police it carefully so it’s not abused. Also the professions can do their part by reducing charges. If not introduce them to the stick.
Yes seizing land off people seems really fair. Can’t see any constitutional issues there. The land zoned is expensive so you also want to see zoning laws massively altered too. No problems there either.
Anthony
You’re talking complete rubbish. You can’t force farmers to fund building of houses which is effectively what you are suggesting. Furthermore why should the professional fees be reduced? Lawyers and engineers spent a lot if time educating themselves and deserve a return. Your left wing fantasies are the things that would ruin our economy
No it’s lawyers and their inflated sense of themselves that ruin an economy
Beal Bocht
Great choice of name, very apt
When domestic rates were abolished they introduced a prepayment fee on new builds now that household tax is back this prepaid fee should go.
Part of the cost is “Sales & Marketing” at €8200 per home. We are told, in a comment, that this includes fitting out a showhouse. So, for a 35 home development, the “Sales & Marketing” cost is over €280k? That would suggest that every home is being fitted out as a showhouse…and that all the fixtures and furniture used is scrapped once the house is sold. Nothing is ever re-used elsewhere, nothing is ever sold on, every house is fully fitted out?
Just one of the falsehoods spouted by those with a vested interest in keeping house prices at ridiculous levels. This is Dublin, a minor city, not London or Berlin. Everything in Dublin is over-priced because those who control such things keep it so. There is no real competition, just cosy co-operation. The rich are getting very much richer and the rest can go hang. And government gives every appearance of complicity. The only wonder is that more people don’t leave.
Pathetic.
Comment, above, deleted. Guess the truth hurts.
Joseph your talking through your hat. Auctioneers charge 1.5 to 2 percent per sale. At cheapest that’s 5k per house. There might be 2 house types so say 30k per show house. That’s another 2k per house. Were at 7k now. Brochures, newspaper advertising extra. Large sign front of site extra. 8200 very accurate. Enough said. You don’t know what your talking about
https://youtu.be/huXDlLFQ4Aw – A criminal act, in some cases knowingly so, has taken place to thousands of families and purchasers of properties in this country, whilst state authorities have failed to act to date, including the Fire Brigade and An Garda Siochana – Longboat quay, Belmayne, the Orchard, Airside, Swords, Newbridge, Portarlington, etc – this is a ticking time bomb!
Only long term solution is a Referendum on “Right2home” like in German Constitution else your kids and grand kids will continue to suffer from financial predators into the future ..
https://www.change.org/p/irish-government-call-for-referendum-on-right2home-in-ireland
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A starter hoe in France vs Ireland are probably the same. A starter home in each country’s capital don’t match. You wouldn’t even expect to build an Irish house in Paris and their regs are a lot ore relaxed than ours.
The local authorities should build some council houses. It worked in the 70s why cant they do it now.
I posted a comment earlier and it’s been deleted. Why?
Proposal 6: let the working mortgaged taxpayer fund it.
Sorry to troll but thought this was worth a watch – only 28 minutes but very damning of the construction built in Ireland, especially during the celtic tiger era, one would say criminal! – here is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LHGwwlC8rs
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Couple of things:
- Margin that developers put can be limited by competition only- question is why there is so little conpetition?
- There is housing crisis for decades in Ireland and what they offer is to cut vat to 9% why not to 0%?
- Dont forget that government is punishing all developers with obligation of selling percatage of apartments to social unemployed families.. Why cheap and compactable houses are given to them? In new zealand and usa they r testing such housing, costs start 30k and they can be built on 1-2 weeks.. Why its not here?
- aqusition costs seem to be quite high, its another cost that government is causing
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