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Paul Hosford here taking you through the final hours of this crazy election. As it stands, this map shows the state of play.
9 Nov 2016
6:33AM
Not only does Donald Trump look set to become President, he will likely have control of the House of Representatives, the Senate and the Supreme Court of the USA.
Van Jones on CNN gave a heartfelt speech about how some people are taking the result.
“It’s hard to be a parent tonight, for a lot of us,” he said.
“You have people putting children to bed tonight and they’re afraid of breakfast.”
“How do you explain this to your children? I’ve had Muslim friends who are texting me tonight, saying, ‘should I leave the country?
We’ve talked about everything but race tonight.
“This was a whitelash – this was a whitelash against a changing country. It was whitelash against a black president, in part. And that’s the part where the pain comes.”
It’s been said plenty of times before, but markets like stability and for them Clinton was stability.
In the face of a Trump victory, the dollar is tumbling.
The Mexican peso also fell to a record low as safe haven assets rallied, with gold soaring more than five percent, while fears about the impact on financial markets led Japanese and South Korean authorities to each call crisis talks.
If you’re heading to the US, your euro will get you $1.12 this morning.
9 Nov 2016
7:29AM
Across the US, there were a number of issues on the ballot – from marijuana, gun control and the death penalty.
After the Brexit result much was made about the divergence in votes between young and old.
It looks like the US had much the same thing.
Here are the election results if only millennials voted... Progress is the longterm future of this country for both parties. pic.twitter.com/8TxWcD7tg5
Russian President Vladimir Putin has congratulated Donald Trump, hoping to work with him to improve relations, the Kremlin said in a statement.
Putin “expressed hope for mutual work on bringing US-Russia relations out of their critical condition” and said that “building constructive dialogue” would be in the interest of both countries and the world community, Putin says.
9 Nov 2016
9:27AM
Aoife with you now on the liveblog.
On CNN they’re analysing what Trump can do now that he has power – there’s a lot of “negative energy” in the country says one analyst, while another says that what he has in story will be “an anathema” to a lot of Americans.
For now, that’s all speculation – but based on Trump’s pledges during his campaign.
More comments from Irish TDs in – this time from Junior Health Minister Finian McGrath, who told my colleague Cianan Brennan:
“Well, I’m a democrat, I accept the will of the American people, I have never agreed with Trump, but we have to accept that this is what’s happened and that’s it.”
Regarding Trump and the Irish government, McGrath said:
The Irish government will be very pragmatic – there will be no change in the relationship between the Americans and us.
If you’re looking for left-wing analysis, the New Yorker’s most-read story today is An American Tragedy by David Remnick.
It’s a tough read:
On January 20, 2017, we will bid farewell to the first African-American President—a man of integrity, dignity, and generous spirit—and witness the inauguration of a con who did little to spurn endorsement by forces of xenophobia and white supremacy. It is impossible to react to this moment with anything less than revulsion and profound anxiety.
On the other side of the coin, over on Breitbart.com they describe Trump as an “outsider candidate” who “overcame overwhelming odds to defeat establishment, Clinton”.
Never ones to miss an opportunity to wear their hearts on their doughnuts, Dublin doughnut shop Aungier Danger have brought out these treats today (sensitive to swearing? Look away now)
In a statement, British Prime Minister Theresa May said: “Britain and the United States have an enduring and special relationship based on the values of freedom, democracy and enterprise.
“We are, and will remain, strong and close partners on trade, security and defence.
I look forward to working with President-elect Donald Trump, building on these ties to ensure the security and prosperity of our nations in the years ahead.
The Government of Canada’s citizen and immigration website hasn’t been working properly this morning – which many are putting down to people wanting to jump ship from the US.
The government hasn’t officially commented on it however, so we don’t know yet if that is in fact the case.
aoife
aoife
And after a few tries, we were eventually able to get the site working ourselves:
Jeremy Corbyn has put out a statement on Trump’s win – and describe it as “an unmistakeable rejection of a political establishment and an economic system that simply isn’t working for most people”.
Corbyn goes on to say:
But some of Trump’s answers to the big questions facing America, and the divisive rhetoric around them, are clearly wrong.
Corbyn says Trumps election is about the rejection of a political establishment and an economic system: pic.twitter.com/bKWXDoFxF8
Michelle Hennessy here taking over the reins of the liveblog. It’s the calm after the storm right now, as everyone looks back at how the night unfolded.
Her campaign chairman John Podesta told supporters at her victory party to go home last night and reporters have been told she is currently still at the Peninsula Hotel in Manhattan.
German’s Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier had a rather disheartening reaction to Trump’s win.
“I think we must expect that American foreign policy will become less predictable for us and we must expect that the United States will be more inclined to make decisions on its own,” he said.
In other words, and I will not dress it up, nothing will become easier, many things will become more difficult.
Patrick Kent, president of the Irish Cattle and Sheep Farmers’ Association (ICSA) has an interesting take on it all.
In a statement this morning, he pointed said “unfair free trade deals” had hurt ordinary people and benefited big business and warned Irish politicians to pay attention.
The pandering to big business has got to stop. The EU Commission and all EU and national politicians need to stop looking for excuses and get tough with multinational retailers, food and drink processors and input suppliers who, between them, are driving our beef, sheep and tillage farmers to despair and over the edge.
“I don’t for one minute suggest that Donald Trump will be a panacea for all ills, but it is clear that normal politics needs to shape up very quickly and figure out why so many ordinary people are voting for change, even if that change is something as unpalatable as Mr Trump,” he added.
Speaking to RTÉ’s Seán O’Rourke about Trump’s victory, former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern said “we need to have a bit of a love-in with his people very quickly”.
To the best of my knowledge – and I still visit the United States a bit – we don’t have any connections with his team. When he was going to come here some months ago when he was in Scotland during his campaign for his business interests… I think it was probably made clear to him that he’d get a hostile reception here, so that dropped off his itinerary.
His concerns in relation to Trump centre around the undocumented Irish, Brexit, Apple’s tax affairs and multinational companies in a general sense.
In times of uncertainty, you can always trust Paddy Power to help put things into perspective:
President of USA: Bigot, billionaire, sexist President of Ireland: 5 ft 3 inches tall, writes poetry, queues politely at ATM#ElectionNightpic.twitter.com/UwbHfykHEQ
Some more reaction coming in from Irish ministers. Transport Minister Shane Ross told reporters in Dublin that once someone is democratically elected “we have to accept that fact and deal with them as a democratically elected president”.
Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government, Simon Coveney, said the Irish government will have to “work with the democratic reality that is there.”
He described Trump’s comments in his victory speech earlier as “generous”.
“They are aimed at unifying people after one of the most bitter campaigns that I can ever remember.”
When asked if he would like to see him coming on a visit to Ireland soon, he replied: “Of course I would”.
I think we should always welcome a US leader to Ireland. The relationship between Ireland and the US is arguably a more special relationship than the US has with any other country. That is valuable, it needs to be maintained, and that will certainly happen and this government will work towards ensuring that happens.
She branded the US President-elect “a racist, a misogynist and homophobe and many other things besides”.
Coppinger said solidarity was needed from Ireland with minorities and others in the US who may be worried and in fear over Trump’s presidency.
The Taoiseach said he had previously stated comments Trump had made were racist. But he said he listened to Trump say earlier today that he wanted “to heal wounds” and that he supported that.
9 Nov 2016
1:06PM
Our own president has made a statement on the outcome of the election.
Michael D Higgins said Ireland has had a “long and deep connection with the United States and its people”.
“I have conveyed my best wishes to President-elect Donald Trump, wishing him and the American people every good fortune for his term in office.”
Sinéad O’Carroll taking over the liveblog this afternoon as we are still glued to the US networks, taking in all the reaction to a Trump POTUS.
My colleague Aoife Barry has been examining probably the most important part of the Republican’s campaign – his slogan.
What made it so powerful to some and so worrying to others?
“Make America Great Again connects with the patriotic, American dream-focused attitude of those who herald their great country. But it also sparks fears of a return to an America where ‘great’ equaled power for some, but not for all – and a fierce fight needed for progression,” she writes.
These lads were all born at the neonatal unit at a University Maternity Hospital Limerick in recent weeks and PJ Corbett rounded up the quads, triplets, twins and a ‘singleton’ for a photo shoot today.
PJ Corbett
PJ Corbett
In a statement released today, the hospital said it is the first time the unit has cared for sets of quads, triplets and twins at the same time.
She’s due to give her concession speech in public at 10.30am (3.30pm Irish time).
Spokesperson Jennifer Palmieri confirmed to reporters that she will speak in New York City.
9 Nov 2016
2:47PM
The Washington Post‘s media columnist has been looking at the role journalists have had to play in the Trump victory.
Margaret Sullivan writes:
Make no mistake. This is an epic fail. And although eating crow is never appealing, we’ll be digesting feathers and beaks in the next weeks and months — and maybe years.
She says that journalists didn’t create Trump but they left him unchecked for months with ‘unfiltered exposure’. They didn’t take those voters in the red states seriously enough – and retreated to their liberal, urban homes in New York City, LA and DC quickly.
And she adds:
We wanted to believe in a country where decency and civility still mattered, and where someone so crude, spiteful and intemperate could never be elected — because America was better than that.
“Well, we lived through that with earlier presidents – they’ve been equally guilty… But what alternative do we have? Do we have any control or influence over the American elections? Of course we don’t.”
The interviewer then said he giggled and in a quiet voice added: ”We could shoot him, it’s not a bad idea.”
9 Nov 2016
3:15PM
As we wait on Hillary, here’s a reminder of what the White House has had to say today.
“The President will make a statement on Wednesday at the White House to discuss the election results and what steps we can take as a country to come together after this hard-fought election season,” a statement read.
The President invited the President-elect to meet with him at the White House on Thursday 10 November to update him on the transition planning his team has been working on for nearly a year.
“Ensuring a smooth transition of power is one of the top priorities the President identified at the beginning of the year and a meeting with the President-elect is the next step.”
It is understood Obama congratulated Trump on his victory.
Bill Cullen – who was the star of the Irish version of The Apprentice – has said he thinks Donald Trump is a ‘great guy’ and that he would have voted for him.
“I would vote for him if I was over there. You just have to look at him… he’s strong, he went bankrupt and he’s back again; it’s terrific,” he told Ray D’Arcy on RTÉ Radio One.
I don’t think himself will be able to do anything here. I don’t think he likes Ireland.
Republican Paul Ryan – who was lukewarm on the party’s candidacy – is speaking now, saying he has pulled off a political feat.
He heard voices that nobody else was, he added, saying he is excited about “where we are”.
He noted that he had spoken to him and ‘his good friend’ Pence twice over the past 18 hours.
“I think President-elect Donald Trump set the perfect tone last night… this needs to be a time of redemption, not recrimination,” he told journalists in Wisconsin.
Clinton has arrived on stage with Bill and Chelsea.
She hugs the Kaines, stands and smiles at the podium.
She receives a rapturous applause, joking that a rowdy crowd is in.
9 Nov 2016
4:49PM
“I know how disappointed you feel because I do too,” Clinton says, while choking
“This is painful and it will be for a long time.”
9 Nov 2016
4:54PM
Clinton acknowledges that the glass ceiling – the highest and hardest of them all – has not been smashed.
She says she hopes that it will be some day sooner than we believe it could be now.
She finishes her speech with a quote from scripture.
“Let us have faith in each other, let us not grow weary… there are more seasons to come and more work to do. I am incredibly honoured and grateful… May God Bless You. And May God Bless the United States of America.”
Clinton has spoken about Obama’s years in the White House, allowing Donald Trump to lead for the next four years and how she still has hopes the glass ceiling will be smashed soon.
President Obama, flanked by VP Joe Biden is speaking now at the White House.
“I know everybody had a long night… I know I did,” he says. He notes that the sun still came up this morning, something he promised would happen (the only big of prognostication that was correct, he joked).
9 Nov 2016
5:25PM
Obama skirts around the issue of Trump winning, skipping onto what will happen between now and inauguration day.
He says that it is no secret there are significant differences between himself and Donald Trump.
But he learned from George Bush’s team who were gracious and professional during the handover in 2008.
It is how he has instructed his team to behave over the next three months.
9 Nov 2016
5:36PM
A fairly flat Obama winds his way around a speech in which he tries not to put too much emphasis on Trump’s victory or Hillary’s loss.
He speaks about being proud of Clinton and how excellent she was in her role at the State Department.
He tries to quell worries about a Trump presidency.
“The point is, we all go forward with the presumption of good faith in our fellow citizens… that good faith is essential to a vibrant democracy,” he says.
“That’s how we’ve expanded the rights of our founding to reach all of our citizens. That’s how we’ve come this far,” adding that he is confident the journey will go on.
“I have said this before but I think of this job as being a relay runner… You take the baton, you run your best race, and hopefully you’ve… made a little progress.”
Well, it’s really just starting but we’re going to say good evening and goodbye to you all now, from this liveblog.
It’s been quite a week.
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Quiet flights will be tops. The handbag thing will be a pain in the hole to find a spot for me bag now though. So many ppl take the Piss with that on aerlingus.
I stopped using them because every time I need to fly (Madrid normally ) Aer Lingus were similar price or cheaper .Ryanair is a bit like going out with a pickpocket ,its far to much like hard work ,stopping them finding a way to open your wallet.
Depends where you at going Niamh. In krakow it’s almost city centre, in Rome their airport in nearer city centre than the aer lingus one, in Nice or Alghero five minutes from town centres,
Donal, that’s a pretty good suggestion. Why don’t you send it on….you might get a free flight! (Terms and conditions apply – taxes, admin fees, luggage charges and all other possible fees not included of course) lol
At the end of the day, it’s a flying bus! Yeah it’ll make a bigger crater if it crashes, but a bus is a bus! To all the begrudgers of a pretty profitable Irish business, if you can afford to fly Aerlingus…. go for it, just remember that you’re flying on a reasonably old bus. For the rest of us, who usually don’t care about customer services on a bus, €50 return to Spain, yes please.
This sounds to me like Michael O’learys swan song though, I’d say he’ll be off soon.
I really think the man is a wee bit of a genius! Especially as we are all going to hail him for making it more pleasant to fly with Ryanair even though he is not doing anything other than bringing Ryanair in line with other air carriers.. Genius! :)
Well done to Ryan air on the changes. Nice to know that at least Michael O’Leary has eventually listened to his passengers. Just hope they do not get rid of the “jingle” on arrival….always good for bit of craic
I fly from London to Dublin several times a year, I used to switch between Ryanair and Aer Lingus. I got so fed up listening to the constant announcements on the plan, awful music, boarding like cattle and the constant threat of being hit with extra charges when you turn up at the airport that I haven’t flown Ryanair in the past year. It’s just not worth it. I have also found that Aer Lingus, has, on most occasions being either cheaper or at the most £20 more expensive for the flight. Aer Lingus are also far more flexible on baggage and their check in luggage fees are much lower. I’d rather pay a little extra and have a far less stressful flying experience. I don’t think these changes will bring me back to Ryanair unless there’s a £50+ difference in flight costs.
You should try cityjet – my sister doesn’t fly with anyone else to London anymore. LCY is zone 3 on the DLR and you get a meal and a drink included on the flight
Hi Colin. Same here ! Haven’t flown Ryanair in about 3 yrs. not since I took an aerlingus flight to London to connect to Vegas. The check in staff smiled and said thank you and told me to “have a good day”. You could have knocked me over with a feather. SHOCK!
Michael no cost for polite friendly staff. Maybe start there.
I would love to try Cityjet to London but every time I’ve priced flights, Aer Lingus to Heathrow always works out much, much cheaper. I tend to book pretty far in advance, too…any tips from your sister?!
This has to be welcomed and can only encourage people like myself to reconsider flying with them again. As a travel agent, I hated booking them for my clients and I haven’t flown with them in 4 years.
Perhaps it will stop the ‘fashionable whinger’ factor. I work in the travel industry too and what I see are grown adults behaving like mentally deficient ducks.
‘I forgot to print my boarding pass and was charged’ – read the T&Cs, they’re not hard to find.
‘My flight left me 50KM from the city centre’ – did it ever occur to you why the ticket was 50% of the price of competitors?
‘I was charged for exceeding my luggage allowance’ – 20KG in Ireland is 20KG in Spain you flat headed moron.
‘I arrived 15 mins before departure time and was not allowed on the flight’ – really? Again, you must be literate if you booked online. Read the instructions.
In other words ‘Grow the f*ck up or shut the f*ck up’ Want to be treated like a posh moron instead of a cost conscious moron then pay for it.
That’s all well and good unless you are disabled. Then you are treated like cattle. They won’t let you bring your wheelchair down to the gate even though (with the exception of one other airline in Australia) every other airline I have ever flown with has never had a problem with. They insist that you either make your own way down to the gate minus your wheelchair or they strap you into a plastic wheelchair type gurney that resembles something out of “silence of the lambs” and insist on bringing you right to your seat even if you can make your own way up the steps. These changes are a step in the right direction but I still won’t be flying with them even if it costs me more money. I’d rather have a bit of dignity and comfort thanks.
That’s right Noel, I’m sure it’s fine for adults with good mobility, but for elderly people, disabled people, and families with small children, flying with Ryanair is so difficult and stressful that it’s just not worth the reduced cost. The ‘like it or lump it’ attitude when you’re struggling down 4 flights of stairs with a couple of small kids, an elderly grandparent and a pushchair, because they won’t let you use the lift is really just to much to bear. In this day and age people with reduced mobility or small children should have equal right to access low cost fares without having to put up with a rude and uncaring attitude from Ryanair staff.
@ Tony Le Blanc Its people like you that give travel agents a bad rep in this country. If thats how you regard your customers I really feel sorry for them. Your attitude and contempt for customers is disgraceful. You sound like Michael OLeary did, but now look at the direction he is going??? Your rant is completely unwarranted and unrelated to anything I have said in my comment. I didn’t mention one thing that you have ranted on about. Care to name the agency you work for? I’ll name my business, its called Travel Counsellors, one of the most professional travel companies in Ireland. We value customer service above all else and our success shows that.
Ian, I’m well aware of that. That’s why I used the past tense, “hated”. He single handed totally changed your industry. He was hated by the Travel Trade.
Do you remember the £2,500 ticket printer-gone because of O’Leary + the 5% charge for processing the ticket.
Noel – you don’t cite any specific examples. I know of several incidences where Ryanair have been better than any other Irish airlines. Also on another aspect I have traveled on hundreds of flights with Ryanair and a similar number with Aer Lingus. Ryanair have never run out of fuel, never been too late, always boarded and took off efficiently and on journeys of anything up to two and a half hours, always been exactly as stated on their website. Aer Lingus, on the contrary, is typical of the old state run airline, enjoying a dubious reputation from providing freebies to RTE and other media types in the past. Ante Ryanair vitriol so epitomises what’s wrong with British and Irish attitudes to economics and efficiency!
Spot on Chris. The free market creates efficiencies and the state sector backed by monopolistic trade unions destroy efficiency. An efficient state run entity is an oxymoron. It cost two can a half weeks average wages to fly London to Cork in the 70′s with the duopoly of BA and Aer Lingus, now with Ryanair it’s a couple of hours wages.
People have a short memory. To fly in the 70′s * 80′s you had to book a return flight, to get any sort of reasonable fare you had to stay over Saturday night and you had to book months in advance. Of course everyone got a free crappy breakfast and a drink.
Okay here’s an example, in January 2011, I had booked flights to Paris with my then girlfriend with Aer Lingus. Before we left we found out that Aer Lingus flight ont he way back was cancelled due to industrial action so we had to book an alternative flight from Beauvais which is about an hour’s taxi journey from the centre of paris. That was about €100 extra. We got there and I was told I couldn’t bring my own wheelchair down to the gate and i had a choice between walking on my crutches to the terminal which was a good walk especially if you are on crutches or having them cart me onto the plane in a plastic wheelchair like something out of the movie “Silence of the Lambs”. I was nearly waiting for them to put a muzzle on me too! I know rules are rules but I just assumed that they wouldn’t have a problem with me bringing my own wheelchair down to the gate and then getting up on my crutches and walk to my seat but they insisted on bringing me right to my seat. Most airlines board any elderly or disabled first to save THEM time. The way they brought me on ensured that i ended up with a seat at the back of the plane and made it look i was late and i was the one holding up the flight. My “vitriol” as you put it Chris has nothing to do with economics or efficiency. It has more to do with a big of dignity and respect.
Also, their weekend prices aren’t really competitive when you fly with luggage, so not too sure why you so happily criticise Aer Lingus, a brilliant airline that has never, ever caused me any hassle.
Sorry, I should have said. “their weekend prices aren’t really THAT competitive”. As yes, they are probably cheaper, but not that record-breaking cheaper as they always advertise themselves to be.
Honestly, is it that difficult to accept that Ryan Air isn’t a good airline for some people with different requirements?
I find ryanair to be slightly cheaper than aer lingus but if you factor in the costs of travel from the airport in the middle of nowhere, it works out about the same anyway, if not more.
I have NEVER got one of those low cost flights. I book months in advance, flexible with days and still never find them.
I much prefer aer lingus anyway, its much more relaxed. I always feel stressed getting on a ryanair flight because its rush rush rush and then trying to find a seat!! Plus that emergency plan in front of my eyes for the entire flight does NOT help with my slight fear of flying!
Hahaha, calm down, Emilio! I’ve been told that the cult of O’Leary is strong on here. I completely agree with you. I only fly Ryanair when absolutely needed. I mean they do what they say on the tin as it were, but they’re just not for me.
not difficult to accept Emilio – but nobody is forcing you to fly ryanair –
they have made a huge difference to the travel industry and affordable air travel can be had from many of their competitors because of them.
The handbag news is great news, I flew with volotea last week from bordeaux to malaga. The hostess at the gate insisted I put my cabin case in to check its size, it just about fitted in except for the wheels on the case ….when I got it back out she said to me, you have to put your handbag in your case too..I told her I needed it on the plane as I had my 2kids with me. Her answer was…you can take it out of the case on the plane !! Needless to say I did, but disturbed a few people at the same time. Ridiculous !!
Surely they could change the obvious annoying things first, like charging an extra €7 for online check-in when there are no other options available (or at least include it in the original fare price) and when selecting travel insurance not having to select the country “I don’t want travel insurance”
All they need to do now is paint a smile on the cabin crew faces, especially Eastern Europeans and teach them how to deal with customers in a pleasant way!! I’ll not be holding my breath!
Why don’t I trust this completely? What catch will they reveal in a few weeks? Will this be done with a big fanfare now to garner goodwill and publicity only for the charges to creep back up to previous levels gradually? I hope not but I just have some difficulty in believing that anything Ryanair do is primarily and solely for the benefit of the passengers…
Ryanair has always been my airline of choice, yes they are very strict on baggage, yes they charge a fortune if you forget to check in online yes they go around with that stupid box to check the size of you’re bag and yes they have that annoying trumpet and cheering when landing…but we all know these things BEFORE we book, so why complain. However, on the plus side, yes they are always the cheapest, yes they always depart and arrive on time, yes the staff is always very friendly, and most importantly I would never have got the chance to see most of the cities in Europe if it wasn’t for Ryanair. I have travelled with our so called national airline “Aer Lingus”, in the past and always had a bad experience, the latest only in September, going to Venice, when we were delayed over an hour going out and the same coming back, and smart comments from the staff when we boarded…Ryanair all the way..
It’s good to see them make simple improvments like this but I’ll still be wary of flying with them.
Recently I made a mistake when booking a flight for a friend because his given name on his passport is different to the name that he is called on a daily basis. When I went to website to change the detail (less than 24 hours later) there was a charge of €110 to make any personal details change. In the end it was cheaper to book a new flight. No doubt somebody will point out that it was my fault which I admit but given that an online change of details does not involve any member of staff a charge of this magnitude is completely unjustified.
They’ll also need to do work on their staff. My bag was damaged on a flight last night and when I showed it to the Ryanair guy on duty he was obnoxious and told me it was my own fault.
I would make a complaint if I thought somebody would listen, but given that the last time I flew with Rynair I lost a mobile phone and I was given a disconnected number to contact to try and retrieve it, I doubt I’ll bother this time either.
Time will tell Lauren. But they made travel possible for a people who could never make it happen before. These extras and niceties are great in one sense, but they’re going to require changes on their side and extra costs. I can’t understand why people who want that little extra just don’t go to Aer Lingus. The fatter Ryanair gets the higher the fares have to go maintain the margin. People are not thinking about from a bigger perspective.
Anyway knowing Michael, this’ll be just another PR fanfare with a lot of hot air :0)
I’ve never been ripped off by Ryan Air, follow a few simple conditions and it does what is says on the tin. Neither have I ever got a cheaper fare from aer lingus, even when you take in all the extras and sometimes longer trip from the airport to final destination. Whatever extra charge Ryanair introduce, aer lingus follows suit a few months later.
Looking at the bigger perspective….Cost is one side of running a business, revenue, customer numbers and margins are another.
If the Ryanair plane is flying half empty because inanae policys have driven away half their customers then your ticket price will rise. Equeally if they fill the front of the plane with expensive business travellers willing to pay for flexability and to travel to an actual airport in their destination city they will subsidize your ticket and the price will fall.
They just realised they had pushed passengers as far as they could. Numbers would have dropped without this PR exercise.
Can be sure fares will increase as the bottom line is their main concern.
I wish they had reclining seats. Sitting bolt upright for two hours or more does nothing for my neck vertebra condition. Minor gripe aside, O’Leary has obviously listened to his customers. The mark of a true businessperson is their ability and willingness to adapt.
Amazing! Had an evening Ryanair flight from Murcia last August. 6 year and 15 month old in toe…
Plane full of sleeping babies and they had the cabin lights on the whole journey, only turning them off 10 minutes before landing in Dublin. They also had the loudest intercom announcements every 5 minutes, selling scratch cards and other sorts of Bullsh!t… and by theway… It was the only flight time available and scheduled per for that airport.
they way people here are commenting you would think they fly ryanair every week.most people use them once or twice a year.if you cant follow a few simple rules like print your boarding pass bring the right size bag then find some other mode of transport there is plenty to chose from and stop moaning.the moaning is well and truly played out
I’d rather pay for a cheaper flight than subsidise the people who forgot to print their boarding card. Not sure how they are going to manage the extra baggage as well. Overhead space is at a premium as it is. This could result in more delays as excess baggage goes to hold.
They need to look at the fuel issue and put peoples minds at ease after what happened in Madrid this year. I stopped flying with them because of this. Aer lingus was 20 euors more expensive but none of the hassel.
he actually meant that you have no grasp of English at al… All of those spelling are correct, you might have meant to say that I was grammatically incorrect.
Trying to salvage a pyramid scheme of a business model… the rational is the customers we piss off ever flying with us and tell all their friends won’t matter and can be ignored, we will always be repalced by more cheap ryanair flyers.
Now 4 things have happened.
1.The economy is growing and more people are being moved out of the have to fly ryanair or want to been seen as austere bracket,
2.Pissed off to many people burned through all their potential customer growth base on numbers alone.
3. People have been educated by experience and compitors as to value beyond sticker price and deceptive pricing.
4. The immigration patterns have changed.
The pool of cheap dumb people willing to fly them shrinks every year and they have a business model highly dependant on growth to survive.
How dare that tosser change his company with the times to meet the needs of his existing customer base, while still offering something at a cheaper price than his competitors.
Sorry Andrew but those 4 things you mention are twaddle and make you sound like a posh twit.
Ryanair, like or loath them have made air travel much more affordable and their influence is felt world wide.
Fact is Andrew, they have grown substantially and continue to.
Excellent. They must have read my posts about the mayhem when boarding with just one bag!
Well done Michael O’Leary for listening to people and taking their suggestions on board (‘scuse the pun!)
Just been on Aer Lingus to and from Amsterdam. Most of the passengers had two bags plus airport shopping. The bigger bag went in the overhead bins with the airport shopping and handbags/laptop bags went under the seat. No fuss no stress boarding. Bliss!
This will also lead to ‘quiet airports’ because people will have nothing to complain about now! Except the website, what a head wreck – ‘would you like a bag? Scratch card? Clean pair of underpants?
when is ryanair going to fly to bulgaria? i bought an apartment there some years ago but now i can’t afford the air fare to visit the place ,well i hope the apartment is still there …….
I don’t care what Ryanair tries! There’s always a hidden agenda. The customer will be scammed out of there money some or other way. For me, I will never set foot inside a Ryanair plane or have anything to do with Ryanair
Would be great if they would dropped fees for taking MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS on plane board.
- It would be Awesome news for all Musicians .. for just taking for example guitar you need to pay for additional seat another fly ticket or fixed price of €100 ! ! ! ! !
* I think similar fees need to pay people for some portable sport equipment etc.. it is nothing fancy , you just want to take it with you for your journey and boom you need to pay extra high killer fees..!
So reduced if u forgot on line boarding cards from 70 euro to 15 well what good is that now it ruined our holidays as a family 5 of us 350euro extra. Easyjet let you print boardings cards of return also. Ryanair did not give this option so therefore I spoke with there customers service and glad to say I will never fly with them again. Ryanair we don’t care is that the saying?.
From when? Here on the continent, we are still being ‘done’ by paying with normal credit card. And a ‘handbag’ sized bag…. does that include computer bags? or is O’leary not sick at all, but being sexist???? Or maybe he ate one of his sandwiches recently.. wait and see….
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