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British parliament votes to launch air strikes on Isis in Syria

Conservative PM David Cameron won the support of almost one third of Labour MPs in his plan for military intervention in the region.

Syria conflict PA WIRE PA WIRE

BRITISH MPs HAVE tonight voted in favour of deploying the Royal Air Force to launch air strikes against the Islamic State group (Isis) in Syria.

The 397-223 vote followed a marathon parliamentary debate that began at 11.34 am this morning.

Prime Minister David Cameron’s Conservative party colleagues backed the plan for Britain’s military to join their French and US counterparts in attacking Isis targets in the region.

The Labour party, however, had been divided in recent days, with leader Jeremy Corbyn strongly opposed to British military intervention, but several senior figures supported Cameron’s plan.

According to Sky News, some 67 Labour MPs – almost one third of the party’s 213 parliamentary contingent – defied their leader and voted with the Conservative government.

Labour’s Shadow Foreign Secretary Hillary Benn received rousing applause for a speech in which he called Isis “fascists”, and supported air strikes against them.

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Here is the exact wording of the motion:

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Earlier, MPs rejected by a margin of 390-211 a motion which sought to block air strikes, claiming that the case for intervention had not been made.

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    Mute DublinLad
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:36 PM

    This is like trying to put out a fire by pouring petrol on it.

    With no plans to what they’ll do after the blow Syria to pieces, this is only going to get worse, and will radicalise more young men and women to the cause of Jihad.

    The blood of thousands of men, women and children will now be on your hands.

    Tonight, humanity has failed Syria. A dark evening, indeed.

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    Mute James Xenophon
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:41 PM

    They need to keep the bomb manufacturing factories in operation.

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    Mute Ann-Marie Wallis
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:00 PM

    Great way of ISIS to get some propaganda with a rushed bombing campaign from the Brits and further drive disenfranchised British youth to radcalisation. Nice one, lads.

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    Mute Ann-Marie Wallis
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:01 PM

    Great way of ISIS to get some propaganda with a rushed bombing campaign and further drive disenfranchised British youth to rsdicalisation. Nice one, lads.

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    Mute Benny Dowling
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:06 PM

    This will be a big recruitment drive for isis. Civilians will be murdered by their thousands in the sir strikes which will radicalize ppl on the ground in Syria and back in Britain. Have they learned nothing from Afghanistan and Iraq

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    Mute Old Gabby Johnson
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:31 PM

    Yeah benny thats correct.. In the west we think that 120 deaths is worth tens of thousands. More people will die on French roads in car crashes in the next year then will die of terrorist offences. Maybe we should bomb people who own cars.

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    Mute Marc Power
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:34 AM

    Ann……go live in the middle east and when. .or if you come back I would love your opinion

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    Mute Louis Jacob
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 1:55 AM

    Marc. Did I hear you say something earlier about an adult conversation? ahhahahahhaha RAOFLMAO

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    Mute COYBIG
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:34 PM

    Faster exit after the results were announced than you’d see at departures when your flights gets called

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    Mute Elma Phudd
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:45 PM

    Yeah. Was like a fire drill!

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    Mute stephen kavanagh
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:46 PM

    It’s like the Falklands again, purely populist vote with no thought for the collateral damage

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    Mute Gold for nothing
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:51 PM

    They won the Falklands war…

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    Mute COYBIG
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:55 PM

    Think at the Tories voted yes anyway and all the labours voted just to spite Corbyn without actually thinking through what they were doing, could end horribly

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    Mute Affinity
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:56 PM

    But it was not Isis. A different ball game. These people are Nazis in a modern world. They destroy and murder without any morals using religion as their so called logic.

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    Mute Lad
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:56 PM

    Stop using Collateral damage – the biggest BS term for this generation created for propaganda. People will look back and cringe at its use. Murder is what it is.

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    Mute stephen kavanagh
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:57 PM

    They won precisely nothing by ‘winning’ the Falklands war, it was a pointless exercise which sadly resulted in many deaths

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    Mute Mer Curial
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:11 PM

    There wasn’t really much colatteral damage in the Falklands war actually, I think nearly all the casualties were confined to the armed forces of the combatants since it took place around a very remote island chain.

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    Mute verbal kint
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:12 PM

    How was it pointless exercise? , an overseas territory was invaded, sending a task force over 8 thousand miles by sea and defeating them in 2 months was seen as major military victory, also got thatcher another 10 years in office. what war in history never resulted in many deaths !

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    Mute stephen kavanagh
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:20 PM

    The Falklands was a handy way of Thatcher garnering much needed popular support by way of sending human beings from both sides to death and maiming for a pointless, bizarre cause

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    Mute Jonny
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:26 PM

    Eyes and noses. Makes a joke of human life. And a big joke at the end. Classy.

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    Mute cholly appleseed
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:26 PM

    Stephen.. yes defending ones country Is pointless now?? From a man who purports support for sinn fein and the ira. I’m shocked by your comments. You’re the biggest hypocrite ever.

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    Mute P-anti matter
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:27 PM

    Either put boots on the ground or forget about it. Ya cant bomb rats from their holes. Too late anyway now they’ve infested most major European cities by all accounts.

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    Mute Marc Mac Eo
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:35 PM

    As I recall, they protected one set of established english speaking colonists from another set of spanish speaking colonists seeking to extend their influence for populist reasons at the time. “Las Malvinas” are as about as spanish/argentinian as The Hebrides or Anglesey… and the local population later vindicated that military intervention by voting 99.8% to remain a British dependency.

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    Mute stephen kavanagh
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:38 PM

    They didn’t care about that, it was the merest PR exercise to prop up a failing government, never mind that it caused deaths and huge injuries on both sides

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    Mute Freebetcitydcom Mike
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:43 PM

    Have shared this a couple of times, but it’s happening again. Share it if you can, it speaks volumes to what is happening

    http://johnpilger.com/articles/from-pol-pot-to-isis-the-blood-never-dried

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    Mute Steve Tracey
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:05 AM

    Stephen,
    What collateral damage? If you’re referring to the airport it wasn’t collateral it was targeted

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    Mute Eamonn O'Riain
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:11 AM

    Hilary Benn is a disgrace to his father’s memory.

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    Mute Colm Galvin
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 1:16 AM

    I had to read that a couple of times to figure out if you were talking about the British government or ISIS. In fact exchange religion for the word terrorism/fear and the statement is applicable to both.

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    Mute Gordy Wilson
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 1:38 AM

    Excellent article.

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    Mute Gordy Wilson
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 1:40 AM

    Excellent article Freebetcitydcom Mike

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    Mute Wil van der Putten
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 7:30 AM

    Suggest you read up your history. If there was one group trying to garner popular support it was the fascist Argentinian government of Galtieri, precisely by invading Falklands. UK was entirely within their right to liberate what was and is part of their territory.

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    Mute Brandon McGrane
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:34 PM

    Disgusting. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

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    Mute Beano
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:41 PM

    Neither does sitting on your ar$e doing nothing moaning about it. Fair play to the Brits

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    Mute Toddimus Maximus
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:43 PM

    So you call diplomatic processes and rational thought “moaning”? The brits have just put their own population at an even higher risk no matter how you look at it

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    Mute Rob Mackey
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:44 PM

    Pretty sure it was the French who committed the Atrocities against the French, not the syrians !!!! Doing something for the sake of doing something is moronic ya dum dum.

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    Mute Lad
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:44 PM

    Dumb logic beano… Fighting a force you can’t see with bombs that will kill innocent civilians… Whos radical now..

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    Mute Brandon McGrane
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:44 PM

    Siding with a government authorising the murdering of innocent people?? I can’t distinguish the difference between Isis and Britain.

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    Mute Ken Mann
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:50 PM

    This is not a decision taken based on principles the Brits don’t care about Syrians it’s Cameron using this to gain political points over a Labour leader who he knew would oppose this publicly and appeal for diplomacy over the indiscriminate bombing of a country mainly occupied by innocents

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    Mute gerard sheehan
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:53 PM

    Well said Beano. Looks like the WIMPS are belatedly being side lined to do their male knitting

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    Mute Brandon McGrane
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:57 PM

    Are you gonna bomb Syria?

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    Mute Marc Power
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:03 PM

    Well said beano…..too many leftie cowards in this country. ….they think harsh language will deter daish

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    Mute Louis Jacob
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:16 PM

    Yeah Marc. You’re one tough cookie. You appear to be the one who’s soiling you’re trousers.

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    Mute Marc Power
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:18 PM

    Louis……you’re a leftie coward I assume? ….you know nothing about me so go back to playing with your dolls and let the adults task

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    Mute Louis Jacob
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:24 PM

    Hahahahaha… What a twit. Are you geeing yourself up for war there Marc? Tough guy. Sh!tting in your pants I’d say.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:27 PM

    Louis ….go to bed. …you’re an idiot incapable of adult conversation. .

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    Mute Louis Jacob
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:29 PM

    but not sh!tthing in my pants about ISIS Marc.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:50 PM

    @Brandon easiest way to tell the difference between 2 things you are undecided about is to flip a coin. As soon as the coin is flipped you will either have a very distinct desire for one outcome our you really won’t care at all. Either way you can take the option you obviously desired or you can stick with what the coin said.

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    Mute Diddydolittle
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:52 PM

    I’m fairly certain that given the choice you would live under British rule over isis rule

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    Mute Brandon McGrane
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 3:09 AM

    So legislated murdering of innocent people is ok? Id rather live in a society where people chosen to govern people authorise the demise of an already damaged system in Syria. Children and women will die as a result of this. Nobody is right in this argument. Death doesn’t ensure safety for the western world. You’d think the western world would have learned by now.

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    Mute Rory J Leonard
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 6:01 AM

    Over 200,000 dead already in Syrian conflict. Should the West just stand idly by and allow mayhem continue?

    Innocents in Syria are suffering and getting murdered anyway, so this UN backed initiative is a welcome development in attempting to bring waring parties to the table, which is what ultimately happens in any War; remember Hiroshima!

    OK, many disparate groups at each other’s throats in this complex theatre of what is essentially a religious war, but since KSA and its neighbours in ME, with their FOFF water- tight border security, have chickened out and in fact are probably adding fuel to the fire by supporting ISIS in many ways, someone has to start acting responsibly.

    Fair play to the Brits on this one!

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    Mute Keith harrison
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:34 PM

    They need to put boots on the ground also, air strikes are not enough.

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    Mute Dan Mullins
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:39 PM

    they should but they won’t. too many factions fighting against each other, to put another army in they would end up fighting too many groups and with an international coalition of airstrikes that don’t trust each other, UK soldiers could very easily end up being bombed by Russia or someone by accident because each faction doesn’t trust the next enough

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    Mute Affinity
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:58 PM

    Great idea but who’s kids do you want to send? Yours maybe?

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    Mute Keith harrison
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:02 PM

    ??? Why would you take that point of view? They joined the army it’s a job they love and this is one aspect of it, to take your point of view who would let their sons and daughters join the army in the first place in that case.

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    Mute Affinity
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:17 PM

    Do you have children Keith? Would you like to see your son or daughter raped multi times, being physically torn apart and placed on social media by lunatics? You either have no kids or you dislike them. No parent wants their child placed in this situation and not by a politician.

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    Mute Matty Reese
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:18 PM

    I’ve an old pair, not sure they would worry Isis too much, might fit one of them but.

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    Mute Setanta Landers
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:37 PM

    Blowing up civilians creates martyrs and radicals. The arms business is booming

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    Mute Toddimus Maximus
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:51 PM

    Bomb Blasts, Battlefields and Bigotry: l’amour pas la haine | stephentodd4
    https://stephentodd4.wordpress.com/2015/11/16/bomb-blasts-battlefields-and-bigotry-lamour-pas-la-haine/

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    Mute Eugene Walsh
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:36 PM

    Imagine the murdering of innocence the British now want to embark on. Have people seen pictures of Syria lately, do they want to pulverise the rubble to dust already created there. ? Shame shame shame !

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    Mute D'unredactable
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:56 PM

    No doubt Dave and his Bullingdon chums have a ‘moral’ vested interest in “not outsourcing security to our allies” ie. the military deathware bonanza over the ‘Coalition of the Killings’ inspired levant!

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    Mute Harry the Cat
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:34 PM

    It’ll just make it worse.

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    Mute Gerard Ryan
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:37 PM

    F##k this, I’m packing my bags. The streets of Britain just got a lot more dangerous.

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    Mute Armin Tamzarian
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:42 PM

    I 100% agree with you – but what I find odd is that in the days following the attacks in Paris, this is exactly what people, including on this site, we’re calling for…

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    Mute Seamus Og
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:54 PM

    This is like bombing the north to defeat the ira.

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    Mute Tony Stanley
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 3:30 AM

    Well only the IRA didn’t invade and take over entire towns and cities murdering thousands of people just because of their ethnic backgrounds, sexuality etc and blowing up landmarks of cultural significance!

    Sorry but this is not like blowing up NI at all!

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    Mute Wil van der Putten
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 7:34 AM

    That’s debatable.

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    Mute Armin Tamzarian
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 8:59 AM

    Its not like that at all Seamus.

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    Mute Stephen Lyons
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:38 PM

    Getting closer and closer to home..

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    Mute Sen James Heffernan
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:41 PM

    Very dangerous. This is the wrong decision. When did war solve anything. Our neutrality has to be cemented and the use of Shannon by foreign military must be top of our foreign policy agenda.

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    Mute Louis Jacob
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:39 PM

    ISIS will be f%^king delighted. A strategy from the Brits that is no threat to them and all the propaganda they can use. I suppose you gotta drop them bombs to make room for new ones… What a sham!

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    Mute Don Juan
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:34 PM

    Appetite for destruction. Hope they don’t just bomb the cr@p out of it and then walk away.

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    Mute Old Gabby Johnson
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:47 PM

    Of course thats what they’ll do.. Its what they always do. ‘Its big noses fault he started it all’.

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    Mute Gary Guilfoyle
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:50 PM

    sure isn’t that how all this started.

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    Mute Toddimus Maximus
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:37 PM

    And then sky news et al will run a massive media overload of “why us” and “they’re jealous of our freedom” broadcasts if they get attacked. Eye for an eye, everyone’s blind

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    Mute Richard Keogh
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:44 PM

    They are complying with a UN resolution and simply joining other coalition partners. They will have a tiny impact compared to the devastating bombing being carried out by the Russians and they will be using much more pinpoint weapons than the Russians.

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    Mute Louis Jacob
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:55 PM

    “much more pintpoint weapons than the Russians”… Go back to your GI Joe games Richard

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    Mute Toddimus Maximus
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:56 PM

    Nothing simple about it. At least the Russians are having an impact on Isis with their strategy. The fallout from this is potentially huge

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    Mute Kellyanne Ross
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:39 PM

    Yeah because bombing has worked in Libya Iraq and do on . The definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results .

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:42 PM

    Oh well done Britain. Whenever there is oil and a sniff of trouble up you pop and bomb a country that is already in its knees. Hope all who voted in favour hang their heads in shame

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    Mute Armin Tamzarian
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:51 PM

    Bet you wouldn’t be saying the same after a Paris style attack on London

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    Mute Paul Burgess
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:08 PM
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    Mute D'unredactable
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:08 PM

    Or a ‘collaterally calamitous’ Kunduz style attack on The Bon Secours!!

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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:02 AM

    @Paul FFS stop ruining the narritive

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    Mute D'unredactable
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:45 AM

    ISoIL don’t seem to be stuck for Texas Tea at least…..and Erdogan’s benefactors down south are lapping it up at a steal!! Much more to do with competing gas supplies from both Qatar and Iran in terms of the present reliance on Russian gas in the wider region…..and the downstream spoils to be meted out to the various vested interests!

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    Mute kay Aderemi
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 7:02 AM

    True, it’s not the oil Syria have what they have is unparalleled support for Russia and one of Russia’s biggest Navy staging posts in the middle East. Essentially Russia need Syria in order to have regional presence around that area. Turkey don’t like that fact, isreal don’t seem to mind, US hate the idea, the UK are like headless chickens who follow US , France just like neo colonialism

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    Mute bacoxy
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:36 PM

    London’s gonna get it methinks… I hope not.

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    Mute Tom Kenny
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:56 PM

    Well either way Isis would hit London if our when possible

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    Mute Tom Kenny
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:57 PM

    Or

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    Mute Armin Tamzarian
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:00 PM

    I agree with Tom, London would have been in their sights anyway.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:07 PM

    I think Liverpool, Manchester or Birmingham will be next, soft target. London is too heavily policed
    But I hope im wrong

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    Mute John Payne
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:31 PM

    Manchester and Birmingham will be safe, Isis won’t want to inflict an own goal, otherwise known as a blue on blue…..

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:37 PM

    That’ll teach them pesky innocent Syrians.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:37 PM

    Blow them all to hell RAF :-)

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    Mute Tír Eoghain Gael
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:30 PM

    So you somehow think the eight or nine jets the raf are sending will do what the vast combined forces of the USA, Russia and France have been unsuccessfully trying to do for 14 months now, during which time ISIS has actauuly grown? Do explain.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:35 PM

    Good show. Get those terrorist blighters.

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    Mute James Xenophon
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:42 PM

    The British are obsessed with interfering in foreign countries that have nothing to do with them. They will never never learn.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:50 PM

    What are you on about?

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    Mute Tír Eoghain Gael
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:31 PM

    British history. Is his remark not accurate?

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:32 PM
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 9:08 AM

    “nothing to do with them”, so do they have to wait to be attacked first?

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:36 PM

    Here we go again.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:36 PM

    They better watch Turkish airspace lol

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:00 PM

    And ever sprawling oil depots in bandit country!

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:41 PM

    Like they didn’t already have enough blood on their hands

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:38 PM

    Send them to their imaginary god and virgins ASAP. …rest in pieces vermin

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    Mute Sean Mckevitt
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:44 PM

    emmm ,
    bombing the crap out of libya helped pave the way for (isis, isil,cia,usa …whatever they are called these days).

    exactly what did the people of the world gain from bombing Afghanistan? (control of the heroin trade …for the money men)
    What did the world gain from bombing Iraq ? (control of oil from the money men
    What did the world gain from bombing Libya ? (ISIS,(the new boogieman) oh and control of the oil
    What is to be gained by bombing yemen ?
    What will be gained by bombing syria ?
    Overall , you and me gained nothing , we are slowly losing everything bit by bit ,
    ALL PART OF A SICK plan , and they won’t be happy until we all burn.
    by the way …uk bombing syria is nothing to do with downing ISIS , everything to do with downing Assad …..to control the ………

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    Mute James Cookson
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:58 PM

    Imagine if the British voted to bomb southern Ireland for IRA attacks in the uk back in the 80′s. So many dumb people in the world who allow themselves to get sucked into the lies they’re told. The west have wanted to remove Assad since before 9/11. This decision has nothing to do with fighting ‘terrorists’. General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned – Seven Countries In …

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:38 PM

    Best speech by a politician in some time from Hillary Ben.

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    Mute Padraig Piarais Mac AnTsaoir
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:41 AM

    Great speech, flawed logic. His father would be disgusted.

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    Mute tk0CXKzL
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:40 PM

    The forever war wages on. The chess pieces get moved around the board. And those whom they are bombing now were once Allies and equipped them with weaponary. And in the future will probably do the same. Whatever benefits the war economy.

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    Mute David Murphey
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:41 PM

    Sinn Fein MP, Francie Molloy, tweeted today: “Brits back to do what they do best, Murder”.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:42 PM

    Same lad will probably collect McCauley ftom jail.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:51 PM

    Because, of course, Sinn Fein have no history of supporting murderers…..they are the poster child for pacifism!

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:53 PM

    He should hand back his British parliamentary salary and expenses in outrage

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:25 PM

    Takes one to know one.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:34 PM

    It was the best of times, it was the worst of times….

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:43 PM

    “It was the BLURST of times”

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:48 PM

    I appreciate your Simpsons reference mark

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:52 PM

    I’m going to write the best darn article….

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    Mute Craig Mcivor
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:03 PM

    They never learn! This is what isis want as was said in the past Thatchers actions against the IRA was the biggest recruitment drive for them this will be the same for isis.

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    Mute Paul Furey
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:38 PM

    Horrible situation to be in. They just can’t sit back, take it on the chin and try to talk to them.

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    Mute Amy Ni Dhaltuin
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:49 PM

    Bombing may not be the best idea, but in fairness, I dont think Daesh are the sitting down over a cup of tea for a chat type. Logic and restraint doesnt seem to be their strong point.

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    Dec 3rd 2015, 1:17 AM

    Which bit of global “Islamification” do you imagine ISIS are flexible on, Paul? The convert bit, or the die bit?

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    Mute IrishGravyTrain
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:56 PM

    Syria does not want Britain or any other western government occupying or bombing anyone in their country. Assad has said syria, Iran and Russia will take care of Isis in Syria. The west can take care of Isis in Iraq. What Britain is about to do is a War Crime. Never stopped them before but under International law it is Illegal.

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    Mute Tony Stanley
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 3:35 AM

    Assads as useful as a chocolate teapot.

    He’s had three years to slow Isis down and he’s managed to fail at almost every level. Not to mention the fact that he’s also a despot which the west don’t want any ally of anyway.

    He’s done as much damage to his county has Isis have if not more.

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    Dec 3rd 2015, 7:38 AM

    Assad like his father, is a homicidal maniac. Any government that uses barrel bombs on its own population has forfeited right to govern.

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    Mute Michael cunnane
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:39 PM

    Wow this gets more serious by the day

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    Mute Michael Shannon
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:09 PM

    When is the UK going to realise they are no longer an empire and a flea on the bag of the doggy world!
    You are cutting your forces and demanding too much of those you pay crap money to that lay their lives on the line.
    Sending the Paddys, Jocks etc out first ain’t an option anymore!
    I’d respect a leader or PM who jumped out of the first plane with his troops, not be holding my breath on that one then!

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    Mute Ryan Kelly
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:32 PM

    Awful news, shame on those who voted for it. It’s going to result in countless civilian lives taken and fuel many Muslims in Syria and perhaps those Muslims (few) who sympathise with Daesh around the world to perform Jihad as Muslim woman and children die because of Western bombings. Another solution was needed. A sad day indeed.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:46 PM

    Great, problem now solved. Europe is safe. No more terrorism. Bombing In Syria protects France, UK and the rest of Europe. Yeah, right.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:43 PM

    At long last. This is the right decision.

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    Mute Tír Eoghain Gael
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:40 PM

    Why? Aside from blow up a few.more innocent people, what will just 8 brit fighter jets achieve that the combined might of the USA, Russia and France has failed to do for the last 14 months that they’ve been pummeling Syria?

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:34 PM

    BOOM!!!!

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    Mute Jim Mac
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:40 PM

    They talked the hell out of it. The eyes of the world are on it. Get the job done, safe home boys. Better tomorrow’s!

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    Mute Al-Right
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:37 PM

    Pouring more petrol onto the bonfire… Giving ISIS what it wants.. more fighters, more reasons to fight…
    Bombing the people of Syria into dust helps no one..

    Don’t forget, without the Paris attacks then the vote for more air strikes would have failed.. Coincidence eh?

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    Mute Socrates Is Alive
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:48 PM

    Lot’s of civilians going to die. Never an acceptable move.

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    Mute Aidan Crowley
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:14 PM

    Have Britian not learned from Tony Blaire and George W Bush mistakes!

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    Mute Amy Ni Dhaltuin
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:46 PM

    Although I think something must be done to counteract Daesh’s madness, I am not sure dropping bombs is the right way of doing it. Also, with family in London and moving to England myself at the end of the month, I worry about the retaliations which will inevitably come. A sad and worrying day, no matter what way you look at it.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:45 PM

    I think this is a big mistake the UK govt will come to regret. Seems to be more about maintaining influence and showing British air power than hoping to achieve stability in the war torn area. They should instead focus their efforts on negotiations with regional actors like Iran and Saudis to try to broker peace.

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    Mute stopit
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:44 PM

    this is exactly what daesh wanted.

    and hilary benn talking about fascists in his speech but ignoring assad?

    FFS

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    Mute Garwig
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:47 PM

    Great stuff, wipe ISIS off the face of the planet. I love it, see you in hell pigs.

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    Mute Tír Eoghain Gael
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:27 PM

    Garwig, considering the VAST combined forces of the USA, Russia and France have been pummeling Syria with bombs for 14 months, during which time ISIS has actually claimed more ground, then how do you think 8 brit jets will wipe ISIS out? Cop yourself on.

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    Dec 3rd 2015, 1:08 AM

    to be fair to the russians thay have only been bombing for 6 weeks………………………..and isis is not their pet proxy army..

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    Dec 3rd 2015, 11:00 AM

    Cop yourself on? Because four years of hoping ISIS would go away as they rampaged through Iraq and Syria beheading people and destroying historic sites hasn’t worked. You liberals are the reason they have existed so long. It’s BIG BOYS RULES NOW. These animals only understand death. Bombing them will soften them up for ground troops. HOORAH

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    Dec 3rd 2015, 11:41 AM

    “You Liberals”…blah blah blah…. You are conveniently ignoring my entire point. What good will FOUR (rather than the talked about eight) brit jets do to defeat ISIS, when Isis was able to expand despite the USA, Russia & France dropping bombs on Syria for the past 14 months? NIL. Four British jets will not do what the Americans, Russians and French have failed to do together for over a year. All that will be achieved is that a few more innocent people will be blown to pieces for no reason. To quote John McCain last week ““We will have some token aircraft over there from the British and they’ll drop a few bombs, and we’ll say thank you very much. To say that it’s going to make a significant difference, no, I’ve got to be a little more candid than that.”

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:43 PM

    The headline should say UK to steal oil in Syria

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:09 PM

    We will never ever find out but Id wager The Rothschild family sanctioned this vote

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:44 PM

    Good. It’s only a matter of time before they attack the UK mainland anyway

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:44 PM

    Troops on the ground is what’s needed , air strikes are ineffective and only kills more innocent than the enemy

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    Mute Liam Lyons
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:02 PM

    What everybody really wants to know though…..will the war be live on sky this time?

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    Mute HUMANFROMPLANETEARTH
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:49 PM

    More profit for Demonic Arms Dealers.
    More murder of innocent Men, Women and Children.
    More Ar$e covering by Big Media.
    May this torment you for an eternity Cameron.

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    Mute Benny Dowling
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:01 PM

    Stupid stupid ppl have signed the death certificates of many men women and children in Syria.

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    Mute Louis Jacob
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:09 PM

    and Britain in all probability.

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    Mute @mdmak33
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:43 PM

    And god for bid when innocent people are hit in England, no point in saying, why?

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    Mute Ahmed Skye Mukhtar
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:05 AM

    So guys let’s start with the red thumbs hey. I’m a Muslim I’ve read the holy quran. My father is a practicing Muslim he’s also read the holy quran. Nowhere in the whole book does it state kill innocent lives. Not a single verse in the quran. Now don’t go through the Web and search some random text up and say it out here. Go read the quran then have your say. Okay for argument sake say Islam does promote the killing of innocent lives if it does there are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. if they were all terrorists don’t take me wrong but none of ye would be alive by now. Syria covers say a maximum of 8% of Muslim in the world. Every day we hear today these many Isis killed themselves today this country bombed Isis main camp in syria. Etc etc. Now you believe that fair enough. But Firstly if that’s their main camp why did you not bomb it before why now. 164 innocent students under 18 got killed by terrorists in Pakistan last year but none of your pm went their for a March or anything. 12 get killed in Paris magazine thing and 3 million people go March we take our religion seriously and we love our prophets Paris knew this still they printed unappropiate images of our prophet. All the pms and presidents are their. Like are you serious use your damn head your man Benjamin of Israel who doesn’t even take Palestinian people as humans. He’s killing them every day. That’s what you call a terrorist he even went to the Paris so called peace March. Forget that he was leading the thing for God sake people what are ye. Go to Google and search up. 1. Syria 2.palestine 3.gaza 4. Iraq the 4 countries ye claim are terrorist attackers especially Iraq and Syria. What do you find. Buildings destroyed bombed down to ground zero. Children and women in splashing blood crying for their lives. Puddles of blud everywhere. Now Google Mr innocent Benjamins so called holy land which he renamed after robbing it from Palestine. Google Israel. What do you see beautiful scenery people on beaches having fun fully developed buildings. Same goes for every other country. So in conclusion what the journal and your media is trying to say is these 4 Muslim countries are terrorists. They support terrorism that can upload a high quality video showing they are killing people and sending you threats from a completely destroyed country which doesn’t even have a single building in it. Are you serious. If so you believe this then please go back to junior infants please I request you. Ya seriously need some more sense of knowledge. And as a Muslim I apologise to anyone that found this offensive but the truth is don’t look at what the media promotes look into things yourself. Thanks again for reading and also sorry once again I’ve no intentions of hurting anyone’s feelings but I am a Muslim. I’m not a terrorist. My religion does not promote terrorism. And the people of syria are definitely not terrorists it’s all media.

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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:45 AM

    I believe you and most people with half a brain now Isis are not Muslim…their from Saudi Arabia,just like the 19 hijackers on 9/11….but the US never invaded Saudi now did they?…Israel pulls the strings…Muslims are scapegoats for this generation…to enable the global agenda to take place…peace my friends

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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:51 AM

    Firstly thanks for your reply. Every opinion is helpful in life. Secondly my dear friend you are Isis are not Muslim they are Saudi Arabian. My dear man Saudi Arabia is a Muslim country. So please reply with this time your half brain. And don’t bring 911 into this that’s history which has been several times proved that it was an inside job. The world super power country America had 2 planes hijacked and they didn’t even know about it are you serious.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:37 PM

    Rock and Roll Folks… Armageddon is on the way!!

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:25 PM

    Murderers killing innocent men women and children for gold and oil they the UK government and us government created isis

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    Dec 3rd 2015, 1:25 AM

    Cameron has made a pig’s ear of this.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:07 PM

    This will achieve absolutely nothing.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:49 PM

    Yeeehaaa. Go Crusaders. At least theres some out there still willing to fight to hold onto their way of life rather tban cower and worry that if we upset the terrorist bogyman he might hurt us. Hope it escalates so everyone of these filthy animals are rooted out one by one and exterminated. Bottom line is do it to Daesh before they do it to you!

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    Mute Tír Eoghain Gael
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:38 PM

    And 8 RAF jets will manage to do what the combined air forces of the USA, Russia and France have failed tp do for 14 months, how exactly?

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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:40 AM

    The reality is the Obama administration has never fully committed itself to taking out ISIS. He is doing just enough so as not be be seen as complacent, but not enough to make an impact. I think the US have been carrying out between 50-60 sorties a day. During the Iraq war it was about 1200 per day. The irony is that Obama’s disengagement from Iraq, abandoning Sunni Muslims post-Surge and not leaving a residual force of 11,000 troops there, gave ISIS a head start. I’m not for one second saying it should be so high. But it just illustrates how little the US has been doing.

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    Dec 3rd 2015, 2:32 PM

    Bombing kills civilians and so they need boots on the ground like women soldiers…

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:43 PM

    You bomb them from the sky and they come to your home and bomb you

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:39 PM

    That’s it, we’re flucked

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    Mute Lad
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:47 PM

    Sometimes I wonder are conspiracy theorists right and is there a NWO that wants war.. The sad thing is if there isn’t, then these people have free will and are leaders of the free world and voting to bomb civilians

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:02 PM

    With all the band wagon comments about not again Britain. ..did anyone stop to think about how the f##k do we fight back at Isis? Do we just wait until the next terror attack? We can’t spend the rest of our days worrying about defences and where next. …I say blow them all to s##t..1 less terrorist in this world is OK with me. If any of my innocent family were killed in Paris I’d fly the jet myself. As Putin put it it’s up to God to judge them, up to us to send them to him.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:11 PM

    Putin never said that it was lifted from a denzel Washington film! And put on social media.

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:16 PM

    I stand corrected sounded good though

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:43 PM

    Tom, since the combined forces of the USA, Russia and France have been bombing Syria for 14 months, during which time ISIS has actually grown, then what the hell difference do you think a tiny fleet of around 8 Brit jets will achieve?

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    Mute Tom Kiely
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:03 AM

    Nobody has answered my question with all yer knowledge. ….what so should be done?

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    Mute Tír Eoghain Gael
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:16 AM

    Any strategy except your slabbering nonsense recommendation of “blow then all to s**t” ffs. After 14 months of that strategy by military powers much greater that the brits have, IS territory has actually expanded ffs. Besides, how do you “blow them to s**t” with bombs from above, without slaughtering innocents, when they hide amongst the population? Engage the brain ffs.

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    Mute Craig Mcivor
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 1:27 AM

    I personally say nothing! as stated before they are trying to drag the UK and the rest of the world to bomb/attack them. Therefore they can say they are being attacked(being marter’s to the cause) thus drawing more sympathizers which in turn grows there numbers but sadly the Torry party do not see this as they are forbearance to their masters.

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    Mute Gerard Smyth
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:59 PM

    I thought a few years back they were looking for the axis of evil…well we found them …US ..GB.. They will kill innocent people imprison innocent people ..anything for war..MAKE MONEY FOR THERE EVIL MASTERS

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    Mute Ireland Unseen
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:51 PM

    Terror breeds more terror. England may get prepared to expect a backlash as seen in Lebonan and French. I’m just stating a fact! Hopefully I’m proved wrong.

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    Mute Derek Hatchell
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:40 PM

    There may be trouble ahead . . . .

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    Mute Armin Tamzarian
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:42 PM

    For ISIS

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    Mute Tír Eoghain Gael
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:47 PM

    For ISIS? Really? Since they have actually grown and spread during 14 months of bombings by the combined vast resources of the USA, Russia and France, I doubt very much if they’ll be shaking in their boots at britain sending less than ten jets.

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    Mute Michael Sands
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 2:29 PM

    The U.S. said they bombs areas of Isis that Russian satellite images show were never touched, it wasn’t until Russians bombed those rebel areas then that Isis panicked and many ran…

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    Mute Michael Sands
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 2:30 PM

    France was selling weapons to Turkey that Turkey was using to pay for oil from Isis…

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:50 PM

    The ‘Special Relationship’ has raised its ugly head again. This is pretty disturbing. Not only have the poor Syrians lost but the threat of a Russian /Allied altercation somewhere in Syria could provoke something a whole lot bigger.

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    Mute Affinity
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:52 PM

    Interesting comments from the BBC reporters in us & Russia, so what! 4 Tornados wow! As that’s going to help. Britian still rules. Bad very bad idea getting involved. Sort out the ones going and imprison the ones returning. Protect your own people 1st

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    Mute Al-Right
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:44 PM

    More Petrol on the bonfire that is Syria…

    Millions of UK taxpayers £pounds dropped on the civilians of Syria, creating more martyrs, more reasons for people to fight against the west..

    They’ve just pressed on the button on the further destruction of the middle east…

    Would this have passed without the Paris attacks? No!… Coincidence? No!

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    Mute MrBuzzB
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:15 PM

    Talking ends wars not bombs.

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    Mute Tony Kennedy
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:28 AM

    While I oppose the bombing on strategic grounds, the idea of moral equivalence between Britain and ISIS is outrageous. Offering Leftist platitudes about “imperialism” or blaming the West directly or indirectly for radical Islam, might make you feel good and get you a couple of green thumbs from your fellow travellers, but it offers nothing in the way of solutions. There are some indisputable facts. ISIS have to be stopped. Without Western involvement, forces opposed to ISIS will not be able to beat ISIS. Russo-Iranian involvement in Syria will not only not address the core issue of Sunni disenfranchisement but will lead to an arms race in the region.

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    Mute John Fergus
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:27 PM

    in global financial affairs there is plenty going on that people need to be distracted from.
    -the yuan being added to the sdr
    -the ecb is set to announce more qe to save the euro
    obamacare needing a bailout…………its bust.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-made-secret-pact-with-turkey-for-the-eu-to-take-half-a-million-syrian-refugees-says-a6757981.html only the 3 billion in aid was covered i most of the media.

    now the uk wants to go in and make even more migrants…………

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    Mute John Fergus
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:37 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s__qs0cBek

    the same scepticism needs to be applied to this farce. these are the moderate rebels that the same countries that wanted to invade syria a few years back armed and trained. this will all end in tears.

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    Mute Gary Doyle
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:36 PM

    Once again britian shows what a cowardly country they are killing innocent people..nothing new

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    Mute Jim Mac
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:48 PM

    Best game of chess ever played out live. Privilege is ours to watch and comment!

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    Mute Evelyn Hughes
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:20 PM

    Killing killing killing May God have mercy on us all

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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:52 PM

    The Bataclan murderers said that they were killing in retaliation for the bombing in Syria of ISIL positions by France.

    Of course, increasing the bombings by France and adding the UK to the bombing alliance will not provoke any terrorist retaliation, will it?

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    Mute Garwig
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:00 PM

    Kill them all…..then who will retaliate

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    Mute Santos L Halper
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:30 PM

    Their children.

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    Mute Carlin Ite
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:02 AM

    The patents who see their kids ripped limb from limb will retaliate. Make no mistake about it peopke in the middle east love their kin just a such as we do. Don’t think for one minute this is about religion. Religion is as rusty a hook as wmd’s

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    Mute Fiona deFreyne
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:49 PM

    One of the arguments used was that France wanted the UK to join in and so it did. The USA wanted the UK to join in the invasion of Iraq and so it did. Munitions have to be used and replaced as expense to public finances.

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    Mute Carlin Ite
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:16 PM

    Shame on the labour MPs. Blairite New labour conservatives

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    Mute Carl
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:48 PM

    For anyone at a loose end.. http://www.army.mod.uk/join/

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    Mute Kerry Cavanagh
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:14 PM

    Don’t like the sound of this at all. not taking sides but it’s worrying for all innocent people involved

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    Mute Jonny
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:17 PM

    The noses and eyes to the left and to the right????? WTF. I felt pretty disturbed after watching that. And a big joke as everyone left??? Is this democracy?? Really??? Brilliant.

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    Mute John Kehoe
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 10:58 PM

    Hopefully they wipe Syria off the map hehe

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    Mute Tír Eoghain Gael
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:20 AM

    You stay classy, John.

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    Mute flappycrap
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:25 PM

    Britain was and is a target anyway even before the vote, but a few more planes won’t do the job.

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    Dec 3rd 2015, 1:05 AM

    Is there any civilians left in Syria at this stage

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    Mute Michael Sands
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 2:33 PM

    Yes those who are sex slaves and victims of rape for Isis from the age of 1 to 70…

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    Mute Sean O'Riordan
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:42 AM

    The won’t bomb Isis…they will bomb Syrian nationalist targets….and further destabilize Assad….Iran is next….the end is near

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    Mute Tadhgkelly
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:15 AM

    Poor people over in Syria just thanking my lucky stars the British did not drop anything on us when they were looking for the ira there’s a good chance I would not be around writing this Bono s line in that band aid song comes to mind (well tonight thank god it’s them instead of you)

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    Mute Sean O'Riordan
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:47 AM

    They can bomb bono though yeah???….please???….ah go on…

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    Mute Santos L Halper
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:18 PM

    Solution: Take in the refugees, and let the rest of the fight it out over Iraq and the Levant.
    When they all kill each other, the refugees can go home and live a peaceful life.

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    Mute Patrick J. O'Rourke
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 11:00 AM

    Interesting concept but flawed I’m afraid. The only winner would be Daesh and the world will be facing the nightmare scenario that would affect every single one of us.

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    Mute Aoife Jordan
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:55 AM

    An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind

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    Mute JournalChatter
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:55 PM

    ISIS need to become WASWAS and fast not sure how it’ll be achieved mind you but having the UK involved is scary and too close for comfort

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    Mute Matthew O' Reilly
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 12:14 PM

    Its only a Sinn Fein’s shoe-in, as Gerry pulls a rabbit out of the hat, and embraces Enda Kenny.

    The labour Parties destroyed not by them and they’re ilk, but because of them.

    The 0001% who control the world have had the metaphorical index finger up the backsides of the
    Irish people for some time now.

    It has been like this at least, since Wellington was declared victorious at the battle of Waterloo.

    Britain’s next great war general was the grandson of Queen Victoria.
    Winston Churchill as an illegitimate child of an illegitimate father, would nail the party founded
    by Arthur Griffith to the Illuminates plans for world domination.
    As the party under De Valera ” Another plant ” with an Armalite in one hand and a Ballot paper
    in the other bludgeoned its way into the Irish Parliamentary politics.

    Sinn Fein’s position in the consciousness of the Irish people has always been unassailable for
    over 100 years..
    In this respect our Revolutionaries and Poets were fools. They were tricked to stand behind
    the wrong party.

    Let us move the perspective to number 10 Downing Street, close to the end of the
    ( Second World War ) The man of the hour was none other than Winston Churchill.
    His secretary was his daughter in law Pamela Digby Churchill, wife of Randolph Churchill.

    She produced a child during the time with her father in law in number 10 Downing Street.
    That child grew up to become non other than a future US President Bill Clinton.
    The further President of the USA. Is a Key Illuminati Mover and Shaker; Great friend to Ireland.

    Over thirty years ago, at the height of the Troubles in Northern Ireland, Clinton was moving around
    these parts.
    He sported a beard, Carried a Saxophone. Became a great friend to the Belfast Republican Gerry Adams,
    and the Derry man Martin Mc.

    His aims and objectives were the control of these two prominent Northern Republicans.
    So far I’d say he’s done a good job for the Illegitimate son of an Illegitimate father.
    The product of one very Illegitimate son of a monarch who delivered 13 Illegitimate children.
    Time to wake up folks.

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    Mute Michael Sands
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    Dec 3rd 2015, 2:27 PM

    They use this to attack Assad mainly as I believe…

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    Mute Stephen McGrane
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:15 PM

    Having a comments section is probably the best and worst idea rolled into one.

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    Mute Brendan Oconnor
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    Dec 2nd 2015, 11:33 PM

    No comment ..you all have it covered

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