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I find it tiring that people need to announce their sexuality to the public…. Does it really matter if you choose to sleep with the opposite sex, same sex or both……
No but an awful lot of people do and will actively make life harder for those that are gay. So the more people who publicly acknowledge or make known their sexuality the less those people who wish to discriminate will find themselves able to spout nonsense :)
I just opened the post and was going to sau who cares, so yes I feel people have come a long way over the last 10 years, I personally could not give 2 fecks if a person was guy, trans gender etc, if that’s what makes you happy, then good for you
Before the whole “why is this news” and “so what” brigade invade the comment space, let me just tell you something. He didn’t come out for your sake. He came out for the 14 year old kids struggling with their sexualities. He came out for those who claim all gay men are a certain way, and perpetuate ridiculous stereotypes. He came out for himself, because we live in a society where you are assumed straight until you state otherwise. Why is this news? Because society had made it news, that’s why.
I’ve been reading stories like this on the Journal for a while now. Someone comes out, and the inevitable ‘so what’s’ insue. This is the first time I’ve ever replied to these kind of people. I didn’t reply for someone as bigoted as you (I think we’ve all seen your previous posts on anything related to gay stuff) to call me self righteous, just because you literally have no argument against what I said. Go form an intelligent thought and come back to me.
i can relate to that Laura. i was once a 14 year old kid struggling with my sexuality. months of struggling, not knowing what to do with myself, should i tell my friends, family, teacher about my situation, when finally, one day i picked up the courage and revealed to people that I am straight, and cannot wait to have a girlfriend any longer. No one cared. People just ignored me. I didn’t even get a side piece in the local paper. The inequality is society is horrible.
Actually Laura the “so what’s” are the best people on here. Proof that a person’s sexuality isn’t an issue, heck it’s not newsworthy. Wheather your a homophobe or in support, either side making a big deal out of it are the reason the 14 year old may be struggling to come out. If everybody didn’t care then maybe just maybe it’d be a better place to be yourself.
Laura in fairness I don’t think many 14 year olds struggling with there sexuality are interested in the news or a CEO of any company.
I’m sure if a member of one direction or there favourite football team was talking about there sexuality it would be more encouraging and helpful to them.
You will always have haters. The world is full of homophobes racists anti this that and the other.
Only in an ideal world these people wouldn’t exist.
If younger generations are to believe that straight gay bi lesbians are to live in harmony we have to make it the norm but “coming out” isn’t the norm. Straight people don’t need to address their sexuality and so gay people shouldn’t either.
Laura is right, sadly there are many people who still don’t get it. That’s why it is publicised so much. 95% of people are straight so it’s easily understood and is the status quo. It is easy to hold many prejudices against a minority that’s why ” normal man is gay ” can be a big headline.
But Karen the point of the matter is you are assumed straight until you say otherwise. That’s why straight people don’t have to come out! Take the Rose Of Tralee for example. If she hadn’t have come out, she would have been bombarded with journalists asking about her boyfriend, or what type of man she falls for. Or else some tabloid would have run some trashy story on her ‘secret lesbian past’. Why shouldn’t she come out and just clarify who she is?
The only possible way for this to not be a news story, is if, as a society, we stop working on the assumption that everyone is straight. But that’s not going to happen anytime soon, so alas, coming out stories will continue to makes news.
I didn’t sit at home and presume she was straight as I’m sure almost everyone who watched it didn’t presume she was either.
Had that idiot that presented it asked a question like have you got a significant other or are you dating anyone etc etc their would be no need to come out afterwards.
I dont watch that tripe but I remember in an interview afterwards she said she didn’t talk about being gay because nobody asked? Nobody asked was she straight either though?
Karen, your faith in society is heartwarming but a little optimistic.
People regularly ask do I have a boyfriend, presuming I am straight. Rumours circulate in the workplace about a woman who ‘looks straight’ but isn’t becausr they used to assume she was straight until they found out otherwise.
I’d love if nobody made any assumptions, and that is becoming more common, but there is still the majority that does assume.
And the reason the journal is telling you it’s news is because everytime there is a story on equality, it has bigger reader numbers, because people like you @thejynxeffect come in and comment. Muppet.
Well by your logic and the way the country is gone at the moment I can’t even assume you are a woman for fear of offence. You could be transgender or a bloke dressed up on a frock for all I know. You can hardly say anything anymore without someone getting offended. How about the next time someone asks you tell them to mind their own bloody business say no I don’t have a boyfriend or tell them you have a girl friend and who cares what they think.
While I agree that coming out should not necessarily be greeted with an instant parade and mass fanfare, I don’t agree that ‘so what’ is the best reaction either. The problem is that while coming out is not very interesting to some people, there are others with a vested interest either way, which makes coming out a very scary process for any individual, with potentially disastrous repercussions: whether that’s a drop in stock for someone like Tim Cook, or being kicked out of your home and/or killed for many youths across the world.
It’s not ‘either side’ making a big deal that makes people reluctant to come out: it’s one particular side having particularly nasty reactions. The problem with ‘so what’ is that it doesn’t do anything to counteract these reactions, and so isn’t a helpful response for the person actually coming out.
There needs to be a distinction made between people being gay and people coming out as LGBTQ. I agree that there shouldn’t be a big deal made out of people being gay, but coming out is a very intense, often scary process. (Also long. For us regular folk, we don’t get a press release, but the ongoing process of coming out in stages nearly every time we meet someone. Fun!) It will be wonderful when the response to “I’m gay/bi/trans/queer” is “okay” but right now, an acknowledgement of the courage it takes for someone to face the potential repercussions of coming out is helpful and caring.
Personally, my response to Tim Cook being gay = okay, nbd. To Tim Cook coming out? Good for him.
Would that I could just click my fingers and everyone is out. Bam, just like that!…… We’d quickly realise that a lot of people we assumed are straight are actually gay (just like Tim Cook here). We’d realise that, whether we knew it or not, we all know someone who’s gay – a relative, friend, colleague, neighbour. The shame, the lies, the deceit, the double-living would all fade away in time. We’d all grow up, realise it makes no actual difference, and get on with our lives. And articles like this would seem ludicrous.
I accept a lot of what you say but at the same time people are entitled to remain private . They don’t gave to make public comment on their sexuality as its no ones business but their own. This man didn’t deny but didn’t account for the last number of years but felt some pressure now because he us with such a well known company . I know it will all serve the greater good but some people don’t feel they should have to say anything at all about their private lives and I have to agree to their right to do that.
are u suggesting that thejournal.ie, an internet based news site is exclusively read by ethnically Irish people?
are u suggesting that people with Irish or celtic names are exclusively white?
FYI I have direct family that are mixed race. They have names like sean, fionn, and eoin etc.
I’d march with you lads. I’m very proud and glad of the support and friendship of my heterosexual pals over the years. No reason at all why straight people shouldn’t celebrate their sexual orientation
Ah so your not out and proud then. How’d that happen? People discriminating against you ? Beat you up for holding a girl’s hand ? Call you straight as you walk past them? Be told not to promote “straightness” to children, if that’s possible?
Great Tim. Now will you please COME OUT with some iOS software that doesn’t cause problems on my 500-600 euro iPhone that I bought from your company. Ya know it’s not asking much is it?
Visibility is vital to create equality. All of you saying “so what” are missing the point. So its not a big deal for you? Why post a view? It will make no difference directly to my life, but it may just make the difference in someone else’s World. The need to come out and declare sexuality is born out of an automatic assumption that you are straight. This is oppressive for people who are homosexual because from the get go you are perceived as different. The more people who are out and proud the better it is for all. Simply because there is no more underlying belief that one is better than the other. Equality.
Heterosexuals make up the overwhelming majority of people on this planet and always will. There is nothing oppressive about that. Like it or not being gay is different, just like having a particular colour skin is different. We can’t go about heaping guilt on people because they are born heterosexual or white otherwise we become an intolerant fascist minority. We can celebrate our common humanity and our different sexual orientations, races or creeds
Don’t think you understood my point. Oppression is a natural by-product of a World where having to declare yourself different than the majority is difficult. The more people that pave the way by coming out -in turn help remove the oppressive feeling. I am not heaping guilt on anybody, and certainly not intolerant or fascist!!
I will agree with people who say ‘who cares’ when homophobia stops happening. Homophobia is rife in this country, especially here, in comments on any story about equality. So, these stories are valid, and relevant, and if you’re not happy with seeing the stories, stop reading them, and commenting on them.
Have to say John, when peoole ask me do I have a boyfriend OR girlfriend, I gain faith in society and the fact the majority couldn’t give a $hit.
I find it horribly awkward when people ask if I have a boyfriend. Assuming I’m straight forces me to ‘out’ myself all the time to people that could react badly.
Because I have never once in my life heard of someone getting beaten up or arrested or forced out of their family or murdered because they like porridge.
Organised religion doesn’t hate anyone. Organised religion isn’t a living thing.
Non-living things don’t have emotions.
Organised Religion doesn’t hate or love anyone. Saying “organised religion” hates gays is like saying soccer hates gays.
Fred Phelps hates gays, but Religion doesn’t.
As for God. Presuming the Christian God exists, He doesn’t hate anyone. You must have heard what I’m going to write. You know how it goes: love the sinner, hate the sin.
So even if the bible is all literally true, God doesn’t hate Tim Cook.
So I guess Tim Cook knows more about God than you do…
“He knows more about a fictional character than I do? How does that work?”
What on earth are you saying? Last book I read was Three Feet Of Sky. Unless you’ve read the book too, I know more about Adam Eden (the main fictional character) than you do.
Are you saying you don’t understand that?
You’ll have to take it Leviticus with Tim Cook. I’m not Tim Cook’s PA. I don’t know.
If you’re talking about the opinions of a guy who believes in God, then yes, to understand those opinions, then yes, you’ve to assume that to him, his God exists. Otherwise your conclusions about that person will be b*llshit.
Just because God thinks it’s wrong to be gay, doesn’t mean people aren’t allowed to be You’re allowed to disagree with self-proclaimed supreme beings. This is a free democracy.
God doesn’t think it’s wrong to be gay. No where in the bible does it say that. It does say that soodemy is a sin.
By the way, seexual active gay people aren’t the only sinners. Everyone’s a sinner.
If you believe that stuff…
@Neal – then he believes something that the bible contradicts. The bible states that God absolutely hates his lifestyle. Numerous times. So is he contradicting the word of god, whom he believes in?
Is the Bible true? Like the Pope, I’m sure Tim Cook doesn’t believe that every word in the bible is literally true.
Andy: use google. I did. Look up the wikipedia: “Christianity and homosexuality”
Are there people who believe that being gay and christian are compatible? There are indeed.
Okay, James, so would you say then that the people who organise organised religion (and also a fair proportion of those who are followers of organised religions) hate gays ?
At first I thought, ok this is a bit of a non-story, he’s gay, so what? On consideration though his ‘coming out’ makes a hell of alot of sense. Because actually to a hell of alot of people, another’s sexual orientation does for some unknown matter.
The world is clearly not at the point yet where individuals no longer need to state their sexual orientation. As others have said it is assumed you are straight unless you state otherwise.
As CEO the man obviously wants to be able to live his life has he wishes. This was his choice to tell the world, rather than some rag of a news paper getting there with ‘breaking news’. Media can work to your advantage or go strongly against it and obviously he feels this is the best way to go about it.
It appears to be necessary to be gay, to be ” empathetic, and live a richer life”. It also appears to contain an antidote to bigotry. But beware of side effects including “rhinocerous” skin. Otherwise it’s just dandy and prepares you for the board room.
Unlike donating to a campaign for saving marriage, which causes CEOs to be fired, being gay actually makes you bullet, and troll, proof. Where can I apply.
I do sometimes wonder why people like Paddy need to voice their negative opinion on this issue. They obviously spend a lot of time thinking about it. A LOT of time.
@ Ailbhe O’Nolan
Firstly Ailbhe, the only way for you to know I comment on the redefinition of marriage issues, is that you are right in there with me. Secondly, I normally confine myself to discussion on marriage.
But I thaught this article contrasted very well with the plight of the ex CEO of Mozilla, Brendan Eich, who was hounded out of office.
As for why I comment, simple; I respect marriage, fatherhood, motherhood, and the rights of children to be aware of their parentage, and to live with both of their parents, whenever possible.
Lets hope all the homophobes stop using Apple products in protest… It should get very quiet on the web while they search to find smartphones and computers not developed through the “gay agenda”. They better go and ask the CEO of samsung if he is gay too.
Paddy Scully – Zealot mouthpiece for Catholic Comment! Defender of the Church regardless of the charge or crime!
Paddy post’s under the guise of faith but it’s really just bigotry.Just pious arrogance parading as humility.
A puppet on strings dancing to an indoctrinated tune.In the end Mr Scully you do more damage to the very Church/Faith you allegedly love.How Ironic!
The best defence against Zealots is giving them enough rope and let them show how deluded and nasty their agenda is.Let people of reason and decency point out the hypocrisy and venomous undertones even reasonable people of faith distance themselves from that sort of believers.
If being gay is to be accepted which I think it has by most, then I don’t think the Journal needs to write an article every time someone says they’re gay. If Bill Gates announced that he was straight, would that too warrant an article? Stop pushing the gay agenda theJournal
There is no Gay Agenda’ the LGBT community and their allies campaign to have the same rights and treatment as everyone else, not preferential treatment, because at the present they are often discriminated against just because they are not straight.
Calling that aim an ‘agenda’ is just an attempt to make it sound slightly sinister and conspiratorial. Why on earth would anyone think there is something sinister behind a group of people simply wanting the same rights as everyone else and to be treated as equals?
The only reason I can think of is that they are insecure, like the status quo and are afraid of having to share any of their societal privilege. You tend to see similar comments, often from the same commenters on articles about women’s rights, asylum seeker rights etc.
I said “The gay agenda is the common gay-related opinions of a subset of gay people who hang around together.”
And the specifics of those gay-related opinions are in Kelly Davis-jordans post above.
Can’t see what’s sinister about the word “agenda”. Most work meetings I go to have an “agenda”.
Just to say that SOME (not all) do want preferential treatment. E.g. those who advocate hate-crime legislation (like the Ivana Bacik’s recent call). Those that say that someone who beats up someone because they’re gay should be treated more severely than those who beat up someone for another reason. I don’t call that Equality, do you??
Does the journal not have a policy on the amount of reply comments that can be placed on a poster, every time somebody puts a comment or view that doesn’t fit with the gay community whether it’s their own view or because of their faith they seemed to get hounded, it’s almost bullying and is hard to read sometimes.
Doesn’t fit with the gay community? What exactly is that statement supposed to mean? Last time I checked this isn’t a thread full of the “gay community” supporting each other and ganging up on those with different views.
Everyone is from different walks of life, with varying opinions. Does it perhaps touch a nerve that some those opinions don’t match yours? I haven’t seen anyone respond with bullying comments. Mostly debate which these articles always bring.
So what you’re saying is can the journal allow people to post a comment and not have it questioned, allow a discussion to progress and delete anything remotely critical of that comment?
I suggest you email the editor and ask him to remove the reply button in the comments section (they are unlikely to oblige as it is a major revenue generator)
@Laura Behan
Gay community, how else would you have me say it, it’s not a lifestyle if your born gay.
As for touching a nerve I commented on what I see and there are numerous replies to every comment that doesn’t fit with the article, some are pisstakes but some are real views and their entitled to have them.
Pat, I was asking what your statement about it “fitting” the gay community meant.
You cannot pick and choose what comments are replied to. Nobody is forced to comment nor do they have to read the replies. There’s a report comment for a reason, if someone is being abusive or inappropriate then use it.
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