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Want to jam with a Rolling Stone? Now you can

A new app called WholeWorldBand is making all kinds of new things possible in the music industry.

THE SOCIAL MEDIA revolution has brought many interesting concepts to the fore. From the evolution of news and how it’s presented, to citizen journalism, there’s much to laud about the new world order (obviously it’s far from perfect, but what is?).

Twitter and Facebook have brought something else to the table – the ability to engage with celebrities and otherwise inaccessibly famous types.

WholeWorldBand (WWB) is a music smartphone app with a difference – it’s stated aim is to increase collaboration and put unknown artists centre stage. Laudable enough in itself but there are plenty of other apps doing similar.

Where WWB  stands out is that you can actually record and jam video and music with a huge list of famous artists (and growing all the time) who have taken the app to their collective hearts.

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The brainchild of Irish resident Kevin Godley (of Godley & Creme and seventies mavericks 10cc fame), the app basically facilitates the ease of recording of demos, or should you wish, mash-ups with other people’s posted videos.

And an awful lot of well-known people have video sessions and content up there, from the Rolling Stones’ Ronnie Wood to Lisa Hannigan, Michael Bublé to Stewart Copeland of the Police (who describes the app as ‘good for creativity’).

So you can add your voice to theirs and create something special. Or you can just mess around and create something silly, whatever takes your fancy.

Speaking to TheJournal.ie, project CEO and former Ericsson Ireland head honcho John Holland describes the evolution of a very modern idea.

“It all started with Kevin writing a song with Sting in New York in the nineties,” he says.

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Everybody loved the song but they were never in the same place and it ended up going in all sorts of different directions. A decade passed and Kevin started to wonder whether something could be done about that on the internet.
Given his background (Godley is also a prolific music video director), it made sense for video to be part of the whole thing. He started talking to the right kind of tech people around about the same time I was back in Ireland working for Ericsson.
I was brought in to advise on the project and was asked to be CEO, but I was just too busy. I do remember though the line of kids who’d queued for hours looking to try the prototype at the 2012 Hot Press Music Show. That stuck with me.

Kevin Colour Kevin Godley

Fast-forward to October 2013 and WWB has gone live with Holland, taking the leap of faith, onboard as chief executive. A short year and a half later and it’s winning best app at the Digital Media Ireland awards and gone live in 107 countries.  That’s a lot of progress in a short space of time.

It’s also built up downloads numbering well into the six figures, although it’s not into the millions yet as Holland acknowledges.  That may come with the dawn of an Android app (which is in the works) – at present WWB is Apple-only as the company’s tech experts haven’t been able to perfect the syncing necessary for production quality on Google’s system as yet.  A web version has recently gone live for PC and Mac also.

To get a feel for how it works, check out this video originating from a Ronnie Wood session within the app:

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So one video (produced by a very, very famous person) can be built upon to create something fairly special.

“Oh this is going to produce hits, no question about it, that’s why we’ve put so much effort into the copyright side of things (WWB doesn’t own any of the music that people upload to it, something they’re very clear about),” agrees Holland.

Having perfected the sync (basically making sure tracks overlaying each other are production quality) – which is so important when you’re dealing with prestige musicians and professionals – the only way is up from here.  We’ve put so much effort, between engaging and creating, into getting the user experience right.
If you consider, we haven’t marketed this particularly heavily, it’s been built up by word of mouth.  And it’s working.
Now it’s all about breaking down the door that was closed – video is so important for upcoming artists and bands but the recording studio has never been open before. Now it is.

WholeWorldBand / YouTube

That’s all very well and good, but if, as Godley states above, WWB is all about musicians getting paid what they’re worth, what is the app’s owners end in all this?  And how do the musicians get paid?

Well first things first WWB charges a 17.5% commission on any in-app transactions. Beyond that, users are free to charge what they like for their content. And yes, that does include the famous people – they’re not in it for nothing.

Also, much of the app’s profits are made via downloadable add-ons – be they video or audio effects, or specific campaigns for bands who are looking to market themselves.

“The app is set up for artists to charge whatever they feel is appropriate for whatever they create,” says Holland.

The power is in your hands. You can charge zero or you can charge €5.99 to record on your session.
But you can also see what is on offer before committing to anything, and plenty of people are giving their sessions away for nothing. Plus, if a song hits paydirt or goes on YouTube and does well, you can share in the revenue.

It seems things are coming together for WWB. So what do the creators have in mind for the ‘next big step’.

“We have a lot of big announcements due at the end of the year, very interesting developments but obviously there’s only so much I can say about that,” Holland says.

This is a long game. An ‘overnight’ success will probably take ten years. But we’re in it for the long haul.
We have incredibly discerning and supportive investors, who like a big idea, but also want people who can deliver on it.  And we can.

And what do the team feel WWB’s place is in the music firmament?

We’re not a reaction to the music industry. But we’re bringing people together. We aim to be a major contributor.

This month, as part of TheJournal.ie’s ongoing startup and small and medium enterprise (SME) focus, we are looking at the music industry.

To view other stories from our collection, click here.

First published 12 April

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    Mute Ciarán McPhillips
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    Nov 20th 2017, 9:46 AM

    Another reminder that the children’s hospital is being built in the wrong location. Every time there is an accident on the M50 roads into Dublin cannot manage the level of traffic.

    Inside the M50 belt just does not make sense.

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    Mute Deborah Behan
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    Nov 20th 2017, 12:29 PM

    @Ciarán McPhillips: such a scary thought for a child to be in an ambulance and caught up on the M50. Disgraceful decision.

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    Nov 20th 2017, 1:40 PM

    @Deborah Behan: We’re sleepwalking our way towards that exact situation. The mind boggles.

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    Nov 20th 2017, 9:52 AM

    No doubt caused by some muppet hammering up the outside/city lanes and then nipping in to go northbound. We need to start a campaign to not let queue jumpers in.

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    Nov 20th 2017, 10:48 AM

    @mcgoo:

    Or perhaps allowing queue jumpers in would stop the accidents

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    Mute Patrick J. O'Rourke
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    Nov 20th 2017, 10:00 AM

    Meanwhile here in Leitrim….

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    Nov 20th 2017, 10:02 AM

    @Patrick J. O’Rourke: who cares about a dying county like Leitrim

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    Nov 20th 2017, 10:07 AM

    @Michael Walsh: We are not dying. We’re generally quite happy that we don’t have to become a slave to make a living. Who cares about the septic tank that is Dublin? See…same question.

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    Nov 20th 2017, 10:17 AM

    @Patrick J. O’Rourke: As a Dub myself id agree. Dublin is grinding to a standstill as we repeat the mistakes of the Celtic tiger years and continue to vote for political organisations who have their and not the nation as a whole best interests at heart.

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    Nov 20th 2017, 10:24 AM

    @Patrick J. O’Rourke: jealous

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    Nov 20th 2017, 11:16 AM

    @quality cheese: Did you post this on your 6 hour journey to work or from bed this morning? Hard to tell…. but “quality cheese”…… your at home

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    Nov 20th 2017, 11:46 AM

    @Michael Walsh: like it or not your taxes keep Leitrim going.

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    Mute Patrick J. O'Rourke
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    Nov 20th 2017, 1:00 PM

    @quality cheese: A tendency to resort to insults shows quite clearly a lack of intellect.

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    Nov 20th 2017, 11:15 AM

    Tailgating is the problem. Its amazing cars doing 140kph tailgating just 1 metre behind the car in front. Amazing breaking system they must have to avoid a crash if the car in front suddenly breaks. KEEP YOUR DISTANCE. 1m for every 2kph. Eg a car must leave 200 metres distance at 100 kph.

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    Nov 20th 2017, 11:23 AM

    @Brendan Mason: That and the roads were wet this morning, come this way every morning before 7am.

    Speed limit drops from 100 kp to 80 kp, most people dont pay any heed to that.
    Many go beyond it.

    Zero police enforcement and bad driving skills, welcome to Irish driving!

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    Mute Ciarán McPhillips
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    Nov 20th 2017, 11:42 AM

    @Brendan Mason: 1m for every 2kph? Therfore using your formula travelling around 100kph should have a gap of 50m not 200m. Anyway if anyone left a gap of 200m on an Irish motorway they’d be flashed at (lights) and abused by other road users.

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    Nov 20th 2017, 12:35 PM

    @Brendan Mason: The accident happened close to the Luas car park junction before the M50. Given the time of morning the accident occurred, and it being a Monday which is probably the busiest morning of the week anyway, it’s virtually an impossibility that cars were traveling at 140kph, or anywhere remotely close to that speed.

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    Nov 20th 2017, 12:51 PM

    @Tommy Roche: the 140 kph is an example. 4okph may be enough to cause a crash if cars are close enough to each other .

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    Nov 20th 2017, 12:52 PM

    @Brendan Mason: 40 kph sorry.

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    Nov 20th 2017, 1:12 PM

    @Brendan Mason: I drive as part of my job and find that if you do leave a gap to the car in front then you’ll always have a gimp who will try to squeeze their car into that gap meaning you have to jam on the breaks

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    Nov 20th 2017, 1:14 PM

    @Brendan Mason: 1mtr behind a car in front driving at 140kmh? Bit of an exaggeration don’t you think. Most drivers wouldn’t be able to judge 60, 80,100mtrs. Little tip – if you are overtaking in the out most lane try keep right of centre of your lane. You will be able to see the break lights of the second car in front.

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    Nov 21st 2017, 2:21 AM

    @Brendan Mason: if you keep the right distance some mope jumps in in front of you that cuts your distance your bolloxed then . This happens very often rant over

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    Nov 20th 2017, 1:00 PM

    For a lot of tech companies e.g. Facebook, Dell, Amazon, people can work from home quite a bit. With some planning you dont need mega-speed broadband either. Can’t help but think some of these businesses could make the leap to commuter towns and beyond. Clonakility has a multinational, the workers have houses, sea-air, little traffic and are 30 mins from Cork for a bit of life, and the airport also. Not ignoring the lack of routes currently available, but if more large towns within 60 mins of Galway, Limerick and Cork were utilised, how much better would life be for people? It will only take one big tech company to lead the way.

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    Nov 20th 2017, 11:13 AM

    Vomit. How do people put up with this shit everyday of their lives.
    Life is short people.

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    Nov 20th 2017, 12:20 PM

    @Ciarán McPhillips: I ment 50 metres for 100 kph.
    70 metres for 140 kph etc.

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    Nov 20th 2017, 12:25 PM

    @Brendan Mason: but they are not leaving a fraction of that distance. Gung ho. Flash lights. The road is mine attitude. Slap on the breaks etc.

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    Nov 20th 2017, 12:37 PM

    @Brendan Mason:

    Spot on. Clueless behaviour.

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    Nov 21st 2017, 3:22 PM

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