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    Mute Tom Newell
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 9:25 AM

    Is it me or do we have a situation in many countries now where its like how low can the political class go these days…..or is it a case we are all just seeing it more clearly now cos doesnt seem like Ireland or England have any political parties capable of running a bath without doing something stupid or being caught out

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 9:58 AM

    @Tom Newell: No shame or modesty in any of them.

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    Mute Steve O'Hara-Smith
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 10:10 AM

    @Tom Newell: I think the UK and US have been showing the world that the way to get ahead in politics is to lie like a rug and tell everyone what they want to hear, stoke prejudices and hate then rise on a tide of the unthinking.
    There was an Austrian who did something similar a while back, he caused a bit of bother.

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 10:21 AM

    @Tom Newell: mainly it’s a result of politicians slowly realising just how susceptible humans are to propaganda. Get enough media outlets onside, spend enough on targeted social media ads and bot farms, and you can pretty much get away with anything. This allows con-artists, shameless liars and assorted dummies to flourish eg Trump and Boris. They surround themselves with other like-minded souls, and you wind up with the modern Conservative party, for example.

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    Mute Leonard Barry
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 10:25 AM

    @Steve O’Hara-Smith: There was a country also in the Middle East that lied about UNRWA which the U.S and the UK we’re only to happy to believe without the slightest bit of evidence been put forward, I’m proud of the fact that Ireland didn’t fall for these blatant propaganda lies.

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 10:32 AM

    @Tom Newell:
    It’s the people who vote them in. Society has to take the blame too. Any muppet can run these days and get elected.

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 10:53 AM

    @Steve O’Hara-Smith: you would be accused of sensationalism by some but unfortunately it is frightening how true this may actually be

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 11:47 AM

    @Tom Newell: It seems to be a right-wing political disease, more so that anyone else.

    Although no group is immune.

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 10:12 AM

    I’ll bet you a €1000 they didn’t bet on winning the election!!!

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    Mute 9QRixo8H
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 2:03 PM

    Labour set to gain the biggest amount of seats in UK history. What has the UK shifting leftwards?

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    Mute Ger Whelan
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 4:05 PM

    @9QRixo8H: there isn’t another genuine alternative?.

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    Mute P. J.
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 4:21 PM

    @Ger Whelan:
    Agreed, a lot of people vote against someone, rather than voting for the opposition.
    Lesser of two evils as such, especially in a 2 party system like the UK and the US.

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    Mute 9QRixo8H
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 5:17 PM

    @Ger Whelan: there are a myriad of genuine alternatives. The people just simple support Labour.

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    Mute Ger Whelan
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 5:44 PM

    @9QRixo8H: is there? Other than The conservatives and labour please name one party that is running enough candidates to be able to form a government on their own?.

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    Mute Conrad Shields
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 10:41 AM

    Insider trading is par for the course in the political elite. So they didn’t think it was something they could be caught for.

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    Mute Alan
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 2:38 PM

    @Conrad Shields: should be sho t tied to the bonnet of a.jeep and driven around .two to put him down, two to put him out and one to stick.the jeep

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 11:23 AM

    I don’t think any politican cares about the people its all about themselves and money

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 11:41 AM

    We dont have to look very far in our own backyard to find how thick and ignorant the electorate can be.A certain family in Kerry and that shyster down in Tipperary can do no wrong apparently.A bit like Trump supporters, simple folk.

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 12:50 PM

    @carol mullen:
    I don’t live in either area but it’s obvious that they get things done for locals. I wouldn’t call them thick or ignorant…they are voting for people who are getting things done in the areas…e.g roads,hospitals etc..they are nothing like trump supporters

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    Mute Steve O'Hara-Smith
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 7:16 PM

    @carol mullen: I hear that family raises the best politicians that money can buy.

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    Mute Ger Whelan
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 9:16 AM

    The big question is did he bet on the correct date?

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    Mute John Moore
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 12:34 PM

    Has admitted to putting a flutter on the date of the election. Always trying to select words to trivialise their own dishonesty. He could also have said used insider knowledge to gamble on an election they know they will lose to enrich himself.

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 11:51 AM

    Recent polls show the Tories and LibDems pretty much neck-and-neck for 2nd/3rd place, with each getting around 50+ seats in parliament.

    Another poll – but this should be considered an outlier – shows Farrage’s group becoming the 2nd largest party in parliament, and therefore the official opposition.

    But polls, as we have seen, have not been particularly reliable in recent times.

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 9:40 AM

    Like, Ballydole inside information

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    Mute Numinous20111
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 11:15 AM

    How do you bury damaging news in the news cycle when almost everything your government does is inept or unethical. What do you try to distract with?

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 10:37 AM

    If someone is dumb enough to offer that bet, then why is this a problem?

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    Mute Sean O'Dhubhghaill
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 3:20 PM

    @Thesaltyurchin: Exactly. And if a person who knew the election date was dumb enough NOT to put a bet on……….!

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 4:51 PM

    @Thesaltyurchin: it’s the same as a player picking up a yellow card after he’s backed it. It’s called ethics.

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    Jun 24th 2024, 10:47 AM

    @marklars81: Not really tho, that situation is one of individual merit, so ‘a player’ decides 1) if they get a yellow and 2) when that is. Whereas this situation the outcome is not controlled by the individual? Unless the data officer decides when the English go to vote. Seems really stupid that someone would accept that bet, in a way they sort of deserve to loose.

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 11:44 AM

    The toxic social and media environment would put any honest person getting into politics.

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 5:32 PM

    Re alleged knife attack in Phoenix Park today: Bring on judge marty No…, with his special advisor, judge o’donnell from Limk & we’ll have the perpetrators out in no time. Nothing can go wrong.

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 2:13 PM

    Tories won’t be winning that’s for certain.

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 11:03 AM

    Any significant amount of money placed on ridiculous bets such as that for big returns which would be correct would immediately get flagged for investigation before paying out. Who bets to win big on rubbish like that?

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    Mute Sean O'Dhubhghaill
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 3:18 PM

    @Dan The Man: Gamblers.

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    Mute Brian Hunt
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 3:43 PM

    Whilst betting on the election date is unethical, inappropriate and unseemly, it is hardly a hanging offence!

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    Jun 23rd 2024, 8:40 PM

    Is the rise of the “believe anything” brigade linked to the development of social media? Seems like we’re all being manipulated to think lies are the truth….

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    Mute Padraig O'Brien
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    Jun 23rd 2024, 3:43 PM

    I reckon it was just a lucky guess!

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