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“The terrorists do not speak for a billion Muslims” let’s hope that includes Dr Ali Selim, who threatens to use our blasphemy law to pursue anyone in Ireland who copies Lars Wilks or Charlie Hebdo.
No-one should tolerate murder and the Irish people need Irish Muslims to categorically condemn these attacks in nothing less than an unqualified manner:
No threats, no doublespeak. No compromise.
Funny how the Clonskeagh mosque representatives are so utterly silent on this. One might think they were not open about their relationship with a) The Muslim Brotherhood and b) ISIS.
Daesh are more truly representative of Mohammed’s vision of what Islam was/is than probably any other Muslim sect or group out there. To deny this is to deny reality.
Yesterdays link to a piece in the Atlantic spells this out perfectly.
@Snorri Sturleson That’s because they want to fool the Gullibini into thinking that they are just a main line regular religion; but when the megafort is up and running they’ll see what a horrendous mistake they will have made for out of that megafort will come Hamas/Isis/ and every and any Islamio-Fascist to bully their way around the neighbourhood and beyond.
Ali Selim and his Closkeagh gang are one of the worst things ever happened to Ireland. We need a Geert Wilders. Someone who exposes Islam as what really is and who agrees with Ali Selim saying that Islam and the west are not compatible, is either one or the other. Ali Selim has said that, People like Geert Wilders just happens to agree with them.
Violent extremists such as Osama Bin Laden take the same line as “new atheists” and far-right bigots, that is, both sides believe there is only a single, monolithic Islam that embraces violence, despotism and gender inequality. Stuck in the middle of these two extremes are most of the world’s Muslims, who, according to polling by the Pew Research Centre, want to keep their heads down, have quiet lives and look after their kids.
Obsession – the Movie. Islam’s war against the west.
http://youtu.be/AediQLpoGGM
” I have been made victorious through terror…!! ”
- Muhammad. (the original one)
ISIS, Boko haram, al-Shabbaab, & all the other Islamic nut-jobs are living the TRUE Islam.
” kill the non-muslim where you find him…” – Koran.
As long as liars like Obama cover up the true intentions of Islam, the World remains in great danger.
@Red Mar….. What about Islamo fascist apologists and mis-leaders? See belo your majority of peaceful ones.
World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
@Red Mar…et al. And here’s PEW for you
Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
Here we go again another leader ringfences Islam as peaceful. I am sure a lot of people are yes, but they do absolutely nothing to the clerics that oveely preach hate through the violent verses of the book.
Those clerics may not be in front of propaganda videos in Syria or Iraq but it’s fairly obvious that they are in the extremist bracket that Obama refers to.
“We are not at war with Islam”…tell that to the Muslims burning people alive and chopping peoples heads off.
This is all quite simple – these factions don’t represent Islam or Muslims. They obviously claim to, yet the vast majority who follow the religion would justifiably claim otherwise. What is obvious is that that Islam is a label / banner used by them to justify actions and ideals. These people are called extremists for a reason and anybody who decides to group them with the average Muslim is only serving their own prejudice and deciding to believe the hype.
@TMWTBC Finally a mainline publication that shows Islam for what it is. A stupendous step forward to alert Westerners to the dangers of Islam in any and all of its forms.
COVER STORY/ATLANTIC MAGAZINE
What ISIS Really Wants
The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse. Here’s what that means for its strategy—and for how to stop it.
Actually Isis are more representative of what true Islam is, then most other Muslims out there. Koranic scripture and the deeds of Mohammed completely ‘justify’ their barbarity. It may be unpalatable but it’s the truth.
http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
The vast majority of muslims treat women as second class citizens.
Thats reason enough for me to hate the whole religion.
Patrick, the huffington post only a few days ago presented a very similar point.
Scipio – don’t the deeds of jesus and christian scripture also justify a lot of things that we now regard to be barbaric?
That’s not to excuse daesh, it’s jut to point out that the link between text and practice of a religion are often not strong. Daesh are taking that text completely literally – Across the MENA region and toward SE Asia, that’s not how islam is interpreted. It’s certainly not how it’s interpreted by the Syrian refugee family who invited this atheist to their home for some (delicious) food last week.
Well said.
Interesting article Scipio. Comparison to the Kymer Rouge I thought particularly apt.
Shows that an ideology does not have to be based on religion to be dangerous.
I get a little bored with the discussions on the thinkers forum on G+ about whether atheists or people of religion have caused most deaths in the world. Rampant ideology seems to be the excuse on both sides for the horrors committed.
But understanding what we are up against is the key to its destruction.
And the sooner the better for all right thinking people.
Jesus being the guy who stopped a woman being stoned to death for adultery. Mohammed the guy who condemned a woman to death by stoning for the very same act. Jesus by today’s standards was basically a peace loving hippy.
Islam unlike Christianity has being a religion of war and conquest since the time of it’s warrior founder. Daesh are just the latest ultra violent incarnation of Mohammed’s folllowers.
Who you had dinner with is completely and utterly irrelevant.
So what’s your answer Scopio?
Total Hogwash Scipio, from a Christian perspective, it is wrong to say Jesus never killed anyone. In his human incarnation, of course, he didn’t. But in his capacity as God he killed zillions of people. It’s all over the Bible. Even the Holy Spirit got in on the act in the book of Acts. If Jesus was in fact divine, he was the most prolific serial killer of all time.
Also Moses , the prophet of Judaism and the principal figure of the religion , was far more warlike and violent than Muhammad. We know this from the Hebrew Bible, which is considered Judaism’s most sacred scripture and respected by Christians as the Old Testament.
Moses was more violent than Muhammad, man, woman and child could be killed, including livestock. Muhammad never ordered everything , Moses did. He also commanded his own kinsmen to be slaughtered when they committed idolatry. According to the book of Exodus (Ex. 32:26-28), the Levites killed three thousand souls that day.
Could the violent nature of Moses explain the belligerence of the modern day state of Israel and its supporters?
God ordered the Israelites to exterminate all the inhabitants of Canaan (men, women, and children) and to take their land. The God of the Bible commanded Moses and his followers:
Deuteronomy 20:17 You must utterly destroy the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, just as the LORD your God has commanded you.
It is only through thorough education on both sides and on all topics that these barbaric texts can be left as testaments of history rather than as a basis of everyday conduct so that humanity can progress together.
+1 Red…. Scopio contributes nothing but islamophobia. I expect if he replies again it’ll be with no answers and a moan about the use of the term “islamophobia”.
Red. The Jewish, Christian and Islamic faiths are all based on the same writings. All the Prophets of the Old Testament are part of all 3 faiths.
Tony once you use the term ‘Islamophobia’ you lose the right to be taken seriously. Why don’t you tell us what you had for dinner instead.
What’s total hogwash is using verses from the old Hebrew bible (old Testament) entirely to make your point. Christianity being based for the most part on the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus Christ hence the name CHRISTianity.
And Tony I also answered your first point in it’s entirety. I ‘moan’ about the term Islamophobia because it’s such a nonsensical term that has being used to attempt to shut down legitimate criticism of a believe system responsible for so much misery in the world today.
Useful idiots such as yourself have being mesmerised by it.
And there we go. Took you a while. That’s not like you.
FYI, I didn’t bring up the old testament.
No you didn’t Red Marauder did. And there you go with your ‘Islamophobia’ slurs. It does not exist. Nor does Christianophobia, Buddhophobia or Hinduophobia. Islam is unique in that it’s adherents have being propagating this nonsensical term to shut down criticism, and the gullible such as yourself have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. I’m sure your dinner was nice though.
I bet you think the massacred cartoonists at Charlie Hedbo are Islamophobes.
Scipio=Uncle Mort=The biiiiiig zzzzionist of the journal.
Actually scoobio you’re right – using the term islamophobia has allowed you to deflect from your prejudice.
And yes dinner wasn’t just nice, the conversation with people who aren’t terrorists was enlightening also.
You appear to be having problems releasing your finger from the i and z buttons on your keyboard.
Tony why don’t you point out my ‘prejudice’. Criticism of a religious ideology is not the same thing as prejudice or bigotry. I merely pointed out, that Isis are more real to Islam than most other Muslim groups or sects. If you actually bothered to read that link I provided you might know what I am talking about.
Nope, your not limiting yourself at all to criticising religious ideology. Thus prejudicial.
Point it out my prejudice then. Otherwise you’re nothing but an empty vessel.
Zzzzzzziiiiiiiooooooniiiiiist.
Doctor Slime should be speaking out against these atrocities committed in the name of Islam.
This clown is in denial. How come he wouldn’t refer to the men beheaded for their faith as Christians like ISIS did but had no problem bringing the faith of the Chapel Hill victims into it before a motive is even established there?
I think the thieving,murdering,child molesting,epileptic,unicorn riding founder of the religion perverted it first-these chaps are just continuing the tradition.It is not new.
The problem is that Isis take religion seriously
Why is epileptic on that list?
We’ll get to the unicorns later.
Unfortunately Conor that’s the problem with most of the world regardless what flavour the superstition they subscribe to.
Mo was one and his transport in dream was a unicorn
mohamad had fits before the angle gabriel visited him with each new revelation from allah. Hence the epilepsy. To be fair though it wasn’t an actual unicorn he rode but a closely related animal.(a burlap? not sure of spelling)
After the success of the war on terror – i can only predict good things from here on in.
Lol!
But wasn’t Mohammed a pervert by marrying a child…how can you pervert a religion based on a pervert.
Old enough to bleed. ………
Aisha was six when she caught old Mo’s eye he gave her a doll then married her when she was nine. The age of marraige in Iran since the Islamic revolution is nine I believe.
Do people still believe in gods and heavens in this day and age, LOL
What an insightful comment .
It might not be insightful. But it’s a question I often ask myself. I really don’t get it.
could be a few bob in this for shannon
Defeating Muslim extremism will benefit most people on the planet including all the Muslims. Its not all about money & oil.
More pandering to religion,in this case the most toxic form of religion.Muslims seem to believe they’ve this special right to feel aggrieved at anything that “insults” Islam.
Let’s not forget that Muslims countries want to make any criticism of Islam illegal through an United Nations non binding agreement which carried multiple times in the UN and are looking to make it a binding agreement.
Under such an agreement you couldn’t mention the 1000 women murdered as “honour” killings in Pakistan(the main sponsors of that proposal) as it would be deemed an insult to Islam.You’d lose your right to be critical of any terrorist act or human right breech related to Islam.Girls denied an education under the Taliban oh that’s ok because it’s religious and you now cannot be critical of Islam.
The Archbishop of Canterbury called to allow Muslims in the UK to have Sharia law! This hasn’t been demanded yet but another example of pandering.
The outrage of Muslims at any images of pigs be it Peppa or Miss Piggy or even in literature like Lord of the flies is enough to have them banned as not to offend Islam.
I must concede the Muslims are right! There should be outrage absolutely but it should be outrage on the side of reason against an extreme totalitarian religion which is getting pandered to by governments and society even when it encroaches human rights.
Some thoughts about Obama-Leader of our still relatively free world.
The Obama White House has finally released the names of the fourteen Muslim “leaders” who met with the President this past week. Among the group — which included a comedian, along with a hijab-wearing basketball player and a handful of left wing activists — were a select few individuals with disturbingly close ties to the global Muslim Brotherhood.
Barack Hussein Obama at the National Prayer Breakfast claimed that Islam is not violent, but that Christianity had a violent past. Meanwhile in attendance was the foreign minister of an Islamic regime that had massacred its Christians.
Human rights activists are assailing the Obama administration for the president’s appearance at the National Prayer Breakfast on Thursday with the foreign minister of Sudan, a country whose government is accused of genocide. 300,000 butcherd ,mostly Christians.
Obama a Christain!
”
n 2012, best-selling author Ed Klein asked Obama’s pastor of over 20 years, Marxist Jeremiah Wright, “Did you convert him from being a Muslim to a Christian
“Well, I don’t know if I could go that far, but I can tell you that I made it comfortable for him to accept Christianity without having to renounce his Islamic background,” Wright answered.
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That article you linked is from the Tea Party in America. As bad if not worse than ISIS. Take your head out of your A$$ FFS.
‘The Tea Party as bad if not worse then Isis’.
Seriously you must be on crack to come out with a crazy statement like that.
Ideals wise. I’m not talking about the killings although go to Fox news and read comments from “Good Christians” regarding atheists and there is not really much of a difference there.
Come off it. How many infidels heads have they lobbed off? How many women have they raped? How many children have they enslaved? How many humans have they barbecued alive? I know you’re probably doing your best to promote your anti-American credentials but you’re really going off the deep end on this one.
@Cahill People who think that profanity is a substitute for intelligence or manliness are beyond help.
It’s all too easy & unintelligent to condemn all muslims as blood lusted savages but the end of the day, we are talking about extremism here.
I have work colleagues/acquaintances of muslim faith, past & present who are horrified & ashamed on a daily basis at the thought of these nutters claiming to represent their religion as a whole.
They don’t and as soon as Isis & Al Qaeda are wiped off the face of the earth, the better off the world will be
The following from Pat is pure and utter poison. Let me explain. He writes:
“The intentional breeding of Islamic terrorism today is a concerted effort to create chaos in the Middle East and division between Muslims and Christians here in the West. Both are unfortunately working because of the very successful propaganda in MSM, and an extremely gullible public akin to Germany in the 30s when the German people allowed themselves to be the victims of mass propaganda against the Jews. We must never forget that we here in Europe and the US, have killed millions more people in the past 3 to 4 decades than Muslims ever did. This all, of course begs the question, who the next orchestrated enemy will be ? The Chinese, Russians, Pigmies in Africa.?? We will see.”
let’s break it down – what he is really saying in the above
…The real chaos in the Middle East is the hatred of Muslim Jihadist Supremacists against the state of Israel. These Jihadists supported by Left Fascists in Ireland wish to see every last Jew removed from the área. Just read the Hamas Charter if nothing else and ask some simple questions.
Then Pat says that there is a similarity to the Antisemitism of the Nazis against the Jews in Germany in the 1930s 40s
But Antisemitism today is largely Antisemitsm of the left. The right wing movements like the EDL or like all others I know of are very supportive of Jews against Antisemitism of Islamists.
The ones stirring up Antisemitism are on the left today. That includes definitely in Ireland Sinn Fein Republicanism who are real haters of the Jewish state and real promoters of Antisemitism (really hate to have to say that!)
Then Pat makes a complicated but lie filed point that if you oppose Islam and Jihad today you are like the Nazis opposing Jews.
How does Pat pull this off and keep a straight face. The big danger to Jews today is from Islam. It is a REAL physical danger where synagogues schools etc. in Europe have to have armed guard.
But Pat is saying if you oppose this violence and hatred you are like the Nazis … it is just too ridiculous
But sadly it is part of the Big Lie politics of the Irish Fascist pro-Palestinian Left. They are actually trained in lies and lying.
Pat ODwyer never ever has dealt with the Nazi Palestinian Arab Hajj Amin el Husseini and he never will because he knows very well what that represents.
Sadly I have to spend time on these facts because there is nobody else in Ireland to take up these issues which are key issues. So I soldier on.
Muslim extremism was relatively unheard of until the illegal invasion of Iraq Afghanistan and Libya, devastating all three countries and killing millions of their citizens , mainly civilians, and displacing millions more. Today droning half a dozen countries, murdering hundreds of civilians is a guarantee for a growing level of extremism. Just imagine this scenario in the opposite direction for one moment, and our countries were being destroyed and our civilians murdered by the millions . What would we do ? How would we react ?
The intentional breeding of Islamic terrorism today is a concerted effort to create chaos in the Middle East and division between Muslims and Christians here in the West. Both are unfortunately working because of the very successful propaganda in MSM, and an extremely gullible public akin to Germany in the 30s when the German people allowed themselves to be the victims of mass propaganda against the Jews. We must never forget that we here in Europe and the US, have killed millions more people in the past 3 to 4 decades than Muslims ever did. This all, of course begs the question, who the next orchestrated enemy will be ? The Chinese, Russians, Pigmies in Africa.?? We will see.
So 9/11 never happened? It predates any if those events. Anyway Muslim extremism has being around for centuries you just haven’t taken any notice of it.
Oh lord I had to stop reading when something about Muslim extremism not existing in past.
Grade A1 on the plonker exam
Pat writes “Muslim extremism was relatively unheard of until…” and that is the centre of the issue here.
In fact there is a long history of the Islamic Jihad. It is central to the Koran and Hadiths. It has been written about by Medieval Historians. it is contained in the writings of people like Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer.
But Britain in the form of Teresa May slapped a ban on those two freedom fighters and essentially libertarians to stop them entering into Britain to speak at the place where the Young guardsman was beheaded. Guess what Pat and the Fascist Left in Ireland agreed with May!!
Pat says some things that are actually true but that is from the point of view of claiming that Islam is a religión of peace. In that he echoes George Bush, Obama and all conspiracy theorists like David Icke.
So Pats positions on this are truly worthless. And he never answers!!! It is imposible to have a conversation with Pat…the great Pat O’Dwyer!!!
The sheer horror of what Pat O’Dwyer has written 2 hours ago is incalculable. This is one dumb guy.
“Muslim extremism was relatively unheard of until the illegal invasion of Iraq Afghanistan and Libya, devastating all three countries and killing millions of their citizens , mainly civilians, and displacing millions more. ”
Let us take O’Dwyers 3
1 Iraq The US war in 2003 removed the secular leader Saddam Hussein and by that removed the bulwark against Iran. Jihad was aided.
2. Afghanistan we know that the US moved in to créate an Alliance with the Islamic Jihad in order to defeat the secularism of the Soviet backed regime. The Jihad was AGAIN supported. Is this not becoming a pattern!
3. Libya…Gadhafi was mopping up very successfully the last rebels to his rule who also were Jihadists and the West stepped in to defeat Gadhafi the secularist ruler and aid the Jihadists
That is the 3 that ODwyer riases in his argument. In each of these the countries of the west (of Imperialism) were aiders of Islamic Jihad
The leaders of the west without exception were on the side of the Jihad and against secularism.
The war against Saddam was especially evil because it opened the door to growing Iranian influence in the Middle East.
It is in the very nature of Left Fascists of the SWP type to be supportive of Iran.
NOTE THAT O’DWYER IS REFUSING TO DEFEND EL SISI IN HIS STRUGGLE AGAINST MORSI IN EGYPT, AGAINST THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IN EGYPT. He is clearly therefore FOR the Muslim Brotherhood of Morsi
Many of these Left Fascists in Ireland opposed the war on Saddam in 2003 but did so while supporting Iran. It was a reactionary support
But the MAIN thing about Saddam is that he represented a bulwark against Iranian Jihadist Fascism which also represents a deadly danger to the Jews of Israel in the Iranian intent to get a Nuclear weapon
The Irish fascist Lefts in their Antisemitism are big supporters of the Iranian Mullahs as O’Dwyer shows in his silence on these issues
Bizarre approach! Pussy footing around primitive savages. All Muslims, irrespective of which branch, want to impose Islam on the rest of us. For instance, the Muslim Brotherhood firmly believe that only when we all belong to their particular form of Islam will the world be at peace. Terrifying!
Heading of your article based on statement by Obama that Islamic State has nothing to do with true Islam. So can one understand what truly is Islam? How to learn about Islam?
Obama is damaged goods. was from the very beginning. He had sat in the Church of Jeremiah Wright FOR 20 YEARS. One of the features of Wright was that his ideology hated Israel and supported the lies of the Palestinian Narrative. Obama Split from Wright only opportunistically.
Obama thus has a direct line to the Fascist Lefts that you find everywhere especialy in Ireland, including those Fascist Lefts of the SWP and Anti War Movement that protected a Fascist Islamist and CIA tool who later led in the murder and sodomizing of Muammar Gadhafi
I beleive that Obama was created by the CIA as was his mother and I also believe that the US elites are stirring up Jew Hatred in the world today
At the very centre of the Koran is Jew Hatred.
At the very centre of Obama is Jew Hatred and that also is what Left Fascism in Ireland is ALL about
Too many skirt around this as if I am terlling lies but I tell the truth always.
Netanyahu and his belligerent occupation is damaging the image of Jews everywhere.
@Felix Quigley Thanks for that revealing info. I heard once that that 5 separate social security cards were issued to the same address that Obama was living in in Chicago in the name of Obama. I wonder have you any info on that!
I have a heap of information but where to start and I am not a conspiracy theorist. I oppose that. Totally. But Obama’s natural father was tool of Tom Mboyo of Kenya and he was EVERYWHERE IN AFRICA recognized as CIA backed. His mother met Mboyo in suspicious setting. His stepfather was tool of Suharto. He took part as far as I can see in the CIA backed Indonesian coup. His mother invovved there with a CIA front and as his wife. She also worked in a CIA front in Pakistan. The general theme is that these Bxxxards of CIA worked to promote Islam and also promote Antisemitism. I do not involve myself much in this because supposing you prove all this what then!!! Icke is a Holocaust Denier by the way.
Anne Marie just tell me was Israel attacked in genocidal fashion in 48 and again in 67. What is your take on those two wars especially 48? From the very mouths of the Arab attackers it WAS genocidal intent. Will await your answer…
This is a Comments Board, and not, as some would seem to believe, a place to let us all preview your college thesis or un-published book!! Yawn!!! Remember the words of Winstan Churchill “if you need to tell me something, please, just send a telegram, not a novel”.
Pat O’Dwyer writes:
“Muslim extremism was relatively unheard of until the illegal invasion of Iraq Afghanistan and Libya, devastating all three countries and killing millions of their citizens , mainly civilians, and displacing millions more. ”
Remember! write it down! This is savagery from pat O’Dwyer!
The above sentence is the deathly tones of the Irish Fascist Left, in no way Marxist much less proud and right to be proud Trotskyist, out of the Stalinist Antisemitism of the post 67 period
This absolutely uneducated person “Pat O?Dwyer” wants us to believe that Muslim extremism started some handful of years ago.
This gentleman comes on to these sites with his pompous ignorance posing as wisdom but he is clearly a totally uneducated person. The whole process of Islamic Jihad began aproximately ONE AND A HALF MILLENIA AGO. That is from the 600s.
I think that Pat O’Dwyer is a product of the bankrupt Irish education system. He has no understanding whatsoever of history.
This basic ignorance is the key to understanding how these Fascist Lefts swallowed and perpetuate the Palestinian Arab narrative of lies and main promoters of Antisemitism today…not just in Ireland either but everywhere, which is why this is SUCH a problem not least for real socialists
The Jihadist Koranic Islamic system of conquest was the most cruel and savage that mankind had ever seen, far surpassing in cruelty such as the Roman savages of the Roman Empire.
I suspect O’Dwyer will pose at times as being of the left so what then does he say of the inbuilt bias against women in Islam, not least that the leader of this death cult made a marriage with a girl aged 6 (Aisha) and CONSUMMATED THE MARRIAGE (THAT IS RAPED THE GIRL) AT AGE 9
I have to say I hate this Irtish Fascist Left. I hate above all their arrogant and unlearned stupidity
Sydney Morning Herald
By PAUL SHEEHAN
The morality of Shorten’s rhetoric is glorious. The practicality is not. There is a super-abundance of evidence that a large-scale humanitarian intake creates a corresponding increase in social problems. The most recent evidence comes from socially conscious, socially inclusive and socially wealthy Denmark.
The Danes have methodically built an underclass, a polyglot immigrant, welfare-dependent, high-unemployment, crime-afflicted subculture. This subculture has become a petri dish for incubating social alienation expressed as radical Islam.
PROOF BY THOMAS WICTOR THAT BURNING OF JORDAN PILOT WAS STAGED…PILOT MADE TO BELIEVE HE WOULD LIVE SO HE COOPERATED
Posted on February 19, 2015
Head bowed in submission. Later he was on his knees in submission. Before he had been marched around under direction of a “Director”. Theme of Islamic State in this film production is SUBMISSION…submission to the on high! Most simple explanation is that he was promised he would live if he cooperated. He was shot in the head and flames were added by technology (this technology is really simple and according to Thomas Wictor in this case crudely applied) This explanation is OPPOSITE of conspiracy thought. It offers the SIMPLEST explanation! I fight Holocaust Denial conspiracists like David Icke by seeking the simplest explanation for phenomena.
FELIX QUIGLEY SAYS…This is the only explanation that makes sense about the burning of the Jordan pilot. The whole thing was staged by the Islamic State director (film director…or somebody with some knowledge of same). The question is why he did not fight back fiercely if he knew he was going to be burned alive. He was a military man. He was an Arab man. So why cooperate. That has never been explained until now…so give this a read.
I am very opposed to conspiracy theory. I seek always the simplest solution. And this is the simplest solution as to why the pilot ( brave man by very nature of his profession) did not fight for all he was worth
You will find this on the only Irish Trotskyist magazine on http://4international.me/2015/02/19/proof-by-thomas-wictor-that-burning-of-jordan-pilot-was-staged-pilot-made-to-believe-he-would-live-so-he-cooperated/
And as part of my struggle to expose the Holocaust Denier David Icke and the Holocaust Denial of a person from Waterford ( close disciple of Icke) called “Richie Allen” who once worked for Waterford radio station whonow operates out of Manchester
The pilot was heavily sedated . He was drug up to his eyeballs .
Why so many thumbs down for this excellent work of Thomas Wictor. Wictor is NOT conspiracy theory! Did you all read it carefully! Read it and you will find that Islamic State is even more dangerous and real! Thomas would disagree the pilot was drugged because he was taking part in a piece of theatre and he was being directed. He was following directions. The director ALONE knew the aim which was to show SUBMISSION TO ISLAM. Somehow they had convinced him (the pilot) he would live. That is possible. He was not SAS and was probably confused. He followed the director instructions then as he knelt in submission they shot him in the temple. They added the flames etc. using simple technology. They are SAVAGES but not stupid they had to have the pilot cooperating in submission mode. That was the key message…”Allah cannot be defeated!” NOTE this is the direct opposite of what the Holocaust Denier David Icke and his spawn Allen from Waterford says.
They certainly do not and thank you Mr. Obama for this enlightening speech.
Just for the record Pat O’Dwyer has not answered a single one of my arguments against his assertions. Not one! Is that the spirit of debate that is carried out by Irelands Fascist Lefts and Antisemties who are filled with hatred for Israel? THEY DO NOT ENGAGE IN DEBATE. Everything is hunky dory for them so long as they are hunting in packs on an Antisermitic theme. Pat has not answered. When real arguments are put against them they slink away like the real cowards they are. They POSE as socialists and they are the very opposite of the great traditions of socialist endeavour.
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