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Eamonn Farrell

Abortion referendum proposed for May, but 12-week law goes too far for Coveney

During the four-hour long special meeting on the issue there was division on the question of unrestricted abortion up to 12 weeks.

Updated 9am

IN A HISTORIC announcement last night, the Cabinet agreed to hold a referendum on the Eighth Amendment in May.

During the four-hour long special meeting on the issue there was division among ministers on the question of unrestricted abortion up to 12 weeks.

Addressing the media late last night, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said the referendum will seek to replace the Eighth Amendment with a new constitutional provision specifically enabling the Oireachtas to legislate for abortion.

Varadkar confirmed that he is in favour of the recommendations allowing abortion up to the 12-week time period, stating that in reality Ireland “already has abortion, but it is unsafe.”

Notably absent from the Taoiseach’s side at yesterday evening’s press conference was the Tánaiste Simon Coveney.

Coveney told his Cabinet colleagues yesterday that he would support the repeal of the Eighth Amendment, but would not support unrestricted access to abortion up to 12 weeks of pregnancy.

Outlining his viewpoint on the issue, the Cork TD told TheJournal.ie:

The status quo of how women are treated in crisis pregnancy cannot remain. I am united with my Cabinet colleagues in agreeing to repeal the Eighth Amendment and allow enabling legislation.
While there are differing viewpoint on the content of that legislation, particularly on 12 weeks access unrestricted, that is a matter for the Oireachtas to now debate. My views are clear on that and I expressed them at Cabinet.

One minister told TheJournal.ie that while there were no rows during the talks, there was “a lot of difficulty over the 12 weeks”.

The announcement was welcomed by groups like Amnesty International, which said it was “heartened at today’s government backing for legislation around a 12-week ‘on request model” and the Coalition to Repeal the Eighth Amendment, which described it as “a real step forward”.

The Pro Life Campaign said the announcement was “as bad as anyone could have envisaged”.

Spokesperson Dr Ruth Cullen said what is being proposed “is solely about stripping unborn babies of all meaningful legal protections”.

Respect

Health Minister Simon Harris will now draft a Referendum Bill, which will be published at the beginning of March.

Speaking to RTÉ’s Morning Ireland today, Harris said he did not think it “came as a great surprise” that members of Cabinet had differing views on abortion.

However, he said ministers had all support the proposal to ask the people of Ireland to repeal the amendment in its entirety.

Harris said he has “nothing but respect” for people who are opposed to a repeal under any circumstances, but he said whether people agree with it or not, abortion is a reality for Irish women.

He said he can not close his eyes to the fact that more than 3,000 women travelled in 2016 for a termination.

“We can trust the women in this country. We can trust women, we can trust doctors and I believe this is how it should be dealt with,” he said.

When asked about the possibility that a change in law will result in women terminating pregnancies after they are told their baby is likely to have a disability, Harris said he found it “somewhat offensive” to suggest that this is the reason Irish women were seeking abortions.

The minister said he has no wish to use citizens with Down syndrome “as some homogenous group to fit a political narrative”.

‘Not a black and white issue’

A draft of the general scheme of legislation will also be back before Cabinet in the coming weeks. The Taoiseach said the draft legislation will only be debated in the Dáil if the referendum is approved and the amendment is repealed.

Flanked last night by the Children’s Minister Katherine Zappone and Minister Simon Harris, Leo Varadkar said he had to think “long and hard” about the 12 weeksregime.

He said it was the Oireachtas Committee that highlighted the impossibility of rape victims being asked to pass tests to qualify for an abortion, stating they would be made victims a second time.

“We know that thousands of women, from every single county in Ireland, travel abroad for an abortion every year. We know that women obtain abortion pills through the post to end their pregnancies.”

He said that abortion pills will not be available “over the counter”, adding that only a GP from a listed register will be permitted to give such a prescription.

The Taoiseach said “abortion is not a black and white issue”, pointing out that it a personal matter for many people.

Varadkar said:

However difficult, I believe the time has come for the people to make this decision. The question has to be a yes or no one. Do we reform our abortion laws or leave them as they are? For my part I will advocate a yes vote, my own views have evolved over time. Life experience does that.

The Taoiseach said a summary of the Attorney General’s advice to Cabinet will be published today.

- With reporting by Michelle Hennessy.

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    Mute I love my County
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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:05 AM

    That’s a latte good info and I’m happy to know I no longer have grounds for concern… I’m a farmer and I’ve bean unsure if drinking too much coffee is good or not but i find coffee relaxing and i can really espresso myself after a few mugs… Now I must go and check on my herd, especially decafs.

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    Apr 26th 2014, 10:49 AM

    Excellent.

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    Apr 27th 2014, 9:11 AM

    Love the wit!

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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:00 AM

    Next week coffee will be bad for you. Scientist keeping them selves in work and journalists filling pages.

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    Apr 26th 2014, 9:02 AM

    As a diabetic i can vouch for this – I only started drinking coffee approx 2 years ago and it does keep my T2 diabetes in check. Only since I read the article on sky news during the week is when it clicked with me. Any diabetics out there should try it from themselves.

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    Apr 26th 2014, 2:52 PM

    And by scientists we of course mean the corporate PR department of Starbucks ;)

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    Apr 26th 2014, 7:53 AM

    It has to be coffee and chocolate for breakfast then. Excellent.

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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:35 AM

    This article is as useless as the study it refers to. It finishes off by pointing out how misleading the data is. It should have had the word “might” in the title.

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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:06 AM

    How many sugars can I have in my coffee?

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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:37 AM

    Ffs will ye ever stop publishing this kind of shite. You’re gone as bad as the daily mail with your health ‘scare stories’. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was lifted from their website. Gutter journalism!

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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:53 AM

    Steve proves my point?

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    Apr 26th 2014, 7:57 AM

    Science sucks,no consistency,how many people are actually
    going to change their cup of tea to coffee.Next year tea will
    be better for us.

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    Apr 26th 2014, 9:25 AM

    Science sucks….. Ffs man, did you actually think about that sentence?! Science has created everything you see around you!!!!

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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:17 AM

    drinking alot of coffee is a big cause of anxiety and sleepness nights dont drink it have a glass of water and an apple

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    Apr 26th 2014, 11:05 AM

    One of the Authors of this report was sponsored by Nestec “A Coffee Vending Company” but that wouldn’t change the outcome of the report would it ????

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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:17 AM

    Irritability and headaches are also the result of caffeine intake or is it too early on a Saturday morning?

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    Apr 26th 2014, 10:05 AM

    I get irritated by shite stories on this website. I can’t help it.

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    Apr 26th 2014, 10:12 AM

    Steve, LivingSocial Deals have an Anxiety Management Workshop deal on, just the thing for a Saturday morning.

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    Apr 26th 2014, 10:47 AM

    I think these articles need to be banned. They weren’t so bad until the rise of Internet media/press.

    They offer nothing substantial with concrete proof , they quite often 100% contradict each other, and they mess with our beliefs about eating habits, which in a country where obesity is one of the worst in Europe, is a pretty serious topic.

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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:59 AM

    Ha ha
    Take that wife!
    I knew I was right:)

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    Apr 26th 2014, 9:18 AM

    Coffee ruins women’s skin and teeth and makes them unattractive

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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:05 AM

    I was thinking of mixing coffee with my insulin.
    Nothing like a cup of freshly ground coffe.

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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:36 AM

    Make sure to grind it extra fine before injecting :)

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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:49 AM

    You’ve done this before haven’t you ;)

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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:20 AM

    Next week you will print an article saying coffee is responsible for high blood pressure and is addictive. The antioxidants in coffee when addicted to it make medicines for treatment useless and people are dropping like flies from heart attacks and strokes all over the world. For Jaysus sake, is this the best shot you can give for a news story on a Sunday morning?

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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:26 AM

    I’m on a fifth cup now trying to prevent diabetes. Hence why I thought it was Sunday !!! There comes a time when one has to hold their hands up all the same and admit to a blunder!

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    Apr 26th 2014, 9:39 AM

    Ballsack too late for me

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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:28 AM

    Does this involve a certain type of coffee? And how does what you put into your coffee affect this? Milk and sugar – yes or no?

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    Apr 26th 2014, 11:23 AM

    No

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    May 23rd 2014, 7:32 PM

    Avoid Trans Fats to completely reverse your Diabetes Type2 in 7 months. A fist of Walnuts for good fats.

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    Apr 26th 2014, 8:36 AM

    So is fruit and veg. #putdownthefork

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    Apr 27th 2014, 1:11 AM

    I agee with this. I had pre diabetes. Two years ago I started drinking coffee for the first time. I drink 2 or 3 cups a day, I love it and the diabetes is gone now

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    Apr 27th 2014, 3:11 AM

    WHAT D STORY ON CAF COFFEE.
    U MENTION DE-CAP IN UR ARTICLE BUT NOT CAF ????

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