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ALAN KELLY HAS been criticised after claiming that water charges have “gone off” the agenda.
The Environment Minister made the comments in an interview with the Irish Times in which he said the issue, which dominated his first few months in office, takes up “3-5%” of his time.
Kelly claimed that housing and homelessness now take up half of his time and said that he didn’t even know when Irish Water are planning to publish their latest payment figures.
But opposition politicians have criticised Kelly’s remarks with AAA TD Ruth Coppinger describing them as “delusional and unbelievably arrogant”.
“He arrogantly attempts to dismiss the mass opposition to water charges. However, this will be a major election issue,” the Dublin West TD said.
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A Right2Water march is planned on 23 January which Coppinger said would remind the government that the issue has not gone away.
Meanwhile Finana Fáil’s environment spokesperson Barry Cowen said that by making the remarks, Kelly had actually put Irish Water and water charges back on the agenda.
“He’s speaking out of turn. He’s not thinking. It’s him to trying to set the agenda but the people set the agenda,” Cowen told TheJournal.ie.
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Cowen said that Kelly was “obviously not canvassing” if he believed water is not an issue for voters:
It still remains an issue. It still remains very real in the lives of many and it’s very real in our opinion considering the amount of money continuing to be wasted. That’s why it’s our commitment to take it down.
Fianna Fáil has said if in government it will abolish Irish Water and return responsibility for water provision to local authorities.
Sinn Féin councillor Maurice Quinlivan, who is running for the Dáil in Limerick, said that Kelly’s comments are “utterly detached and arrogant”.
It shows that the Labour Party is living in a dream land ahead of the election. Just because he wishes something doesn’t make it so.
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Poor Alan. Take he missed the 6 one news . in was well on the agenda then. Take it he missed rte giving free publicity to the opposition to water charges.
The only reason that “Irish Water” appears to have gone off the agenda is because Alan Kelly has told “Irish Water” to keep a low profile and not antagonize anyone during the run up to the elections and the media has also complied in assisting him to do so. But make no mistake, this issue is far from “off the agenda”….just because it’s not reported in the mainstream media does not make it so………AK and Labour are in for a rude awakening.
Just seen him in 6 o Clock news – arrogance is too polite a word to describe him. The people of Tipperary vote for very strange representatives. If this guy is re elected and a Minster or taniste then God help the poor Irish people. The man must have ice in his veins and a robotic brain devoid of understanding of the hardship he has imposed on people struggling to pay their ordinary electric and heating bills
Kelly and Lowry look after their constituency with everybody else’s money..
Lowry of course is independently wealthy enough to be Santa Claus to his constituents.
Kelly has an open cheque book, from the taxes paid by the rest of Ireland.
When will people cop on.?
Don’t forget, despite this buffoons disastrous handling of everything he touches, IW is the barsteward child of the fascist Fine Gael party.
How anyone could vote for any of these is way beyond my understanding.
Linda if your brother committed murder and you still defended him despite overwhelming evidence what would that make you? Who in their right mind would trust with their vote?
Muppet he is. Just because the media is silent on the issue at the moment dos not mean its gone away. Most people have just gone on with life as they use the quarterly newsletter from a company called Irish water as a fire starter.
And it will Dave, we should mention here on the Journal every night lest people think everyone is paying, i dint know how many letters I’ve got from IW and i am collecting them.
I am not paying.
so he claims that housing and homelessness take up 50% of his time yet there have been little or no inroads in these areas, so basically he is being paid to do pretty much nothing of value. Along with no doubt his highly paid advisors who actually make the decisions. Why do we have TDs again when its the advisors and civil servants running the show?
i’m breakinbg my own rule here by commenting about someone I have never met, but I generally hate arrogance in all its forms, and this man comes across as very arrogant.
“The Right2Water campaign has called for a series of nationwide demonstrations to take place on Saturday, 23rd January 2016 – including a major demonstration in Dublin city centre.”
I received another request for monies from Irish water today – odd as I’m not nor will ever be a customer of theirs. I chucked it in the bin as I don’t see the logic paying multiple times for my water. Kelly can stick his head in the sand all he likes as that will make kicking his backside all the easier in the GE! Looking forward to the 23rd and another peaceful protest in Dublins fair city – a timely reminder for Kelly / Walter Mitty & Burton.
Water charges are not the only thing that has not gone away. Let’s see now siteserve, fennelly, property tax,tribunals corruption, cronyism, lies and that is only the tip to the ice berg. The people won’t forget this time.
Maybe it’s off his agenda, too busy having unminuted meetings with prospective tenderers. He can always go and get “emotional” again, like it really worked last time. Muppet.
Will the constitutes of North Tipperary vote Kelly out and do their national duty on behalf of the rest of us. The only way to refocus this myoptic clown is the fear of what will happen in the polling stations in the next few months
gone off the agenda, is he for real, hundreds of thousands have not paid any of the three bills issued so far, i am one, i have received umpteen texts “telling” me to contact IW “IMMEDIATELY” to make payment. they wont be getting a call or a payment anytime this century from me. this has not gone off the agenda at all. as long as people stick to their guns and refuse to pay and correspond with IW then this is very much still on the agenda.
He is looking for votes, its has rained so much with the last 4weeks, their is a surplus of water in oure little republic and kelly wont rock the boat if you parden the punt…
I get the feeling most have decided that they are not paying this unjust charge and are content with staying home burning the bills instead of doing more marches. That said, hearing Mr Kelly ramble on and on going against the public wishes makes that idea harder to take, and they will be out on the 23rd. Not as big as usual (the media will DEFINITELY take notice) but enough to still send the message that opposition will never go away while IW is in its current form.
Its Funny how the recent torrential rainfall, and flooding, has put a rather jovial, and ironic twist, on the whole situation…and of course im not talking about the victims, but Irish water..
As martin conway said, “water just doesn’t fall from the sky, somebody has to pay for it”….idiot…
Angry Kelly putting on a brave face,and they are hitting each other inside the party,both parties.80% of fg want enda gone, but afraid to say it,jhn perry took them to court for corruption in politics,no one wants to know him in fg.they are all in for a hammering in GE.
The real figure for non payment of the irish water scam is 70% and its not on Kelly’s agenda. Well it wont matter anyway as Liebour will be confined to the dustbin of history shortly and good riddance.
Unless there is a very strong anti water electorate in his constituency , I’d say he will probably get re elected ..remember it’s a PR system . He only needs about 4,200 1st preference votes,then transfers will get him in.
The transfer system just seems so ridiculous and undemocratic to me. Can anyone explain how it’s fair and logical that someone who doesn’t get voted for can still be “voted” in??
The transfer system is undemocratic? Are you actually serious?
It’s about as democratic as a vote can get.
Anyone voting based only on water charges deserves exactly what they get.
There is no magic money tree. Things cost money. You have to pay. The insane welfare state that has been created simply has to be limited. Ordinary taxpayers cannot be made to pay more for those who will not do for themselves.
Anyone who believes SF/PBP/AAA will deliver on everything they promised will be as angry with them in a year or two as they are with Labour now.
Dear Lord Joe, how long have you lived here and still don’t get PR-STV it’s served us well since the foundation of the state and makes room for minority views like AAA and PBP. Ye wouldn’t get a look in in a FPTP system.
@Alan… so you’re saying you can’t explain it then? Anyone who starts their points with “anyone who” isn’t really making any point.
@Justin… yeah, served us really well. Look how our country is running like a well-oiled machine thanks to the exemplary leadership we’ve enjoyed thus far.
Alan, if it was just that water needs to be paid for – the issue might well go away. The facts that Irish Water has been set up as an accounting trick to enable the idiot government to pay off the freakin bond holders, at the behest of the Troika, and that the set up of Irish Water is so rife with cronyism and horrendous mistakes in setting it up, are the issues that will not go away…
But there is a magic money tree. It’s called the ECB who as a central bank create (and delete) money at will. Most nations retain control of their central bank (magic money tree) but the Eurozone nations have relinquished that control to an institution which does not serve the interests of the majority.
Kelly won’t have to dedicate any percentage of his time to thinking about anything political after the next election because he and Labour will be destroyed by the people they betrayed and turned against, he’s just another arrogant little man trying to stay in power on the coat tails of FG while leaving his pre-election promises conveniently behind him, back to obscurity with ya :)
Kelly reminds me of father dougal……except his stupidity costs the taxpayer money, why don’t ya go on tv again alan and look for a sympathy vote cos it didnt work the last time..
Just saw this deluded oinseach on RTE 6.1 , and he was talking the same kind of delusional tripe, about the Government’s etc.response to the flooding crisis. It seems that he feels once he can convince himself alls OK , then everyone else will go along with his fantasy. He needs early retirement!
What a joke and the property charges haven’t either, who remembers Enda bringing in property tax to save the banks and now they are saved and the taxes still remain???
What does he take us for?
These people in government don’t care what the populous think of them, they are not interested, he is there for his big fat pension, early retirement or a job in the EU dictatorship when he has finished screwing up ordinary peoples lives.
Enda is a dictator and a traitor to his Country, he should have stayed in Castlebar teaching. Did you ever notice when he is talking he is like a child in the school yard.
Whether people turn up or not is not issue. I probably won’t get to the march but I certainly WONT be paying Irish Water a single cent !!!!
Alan Kelly can take his arrogance and bullying and go to hell .
we have to pay water charges like every other europeen country if we don’t our water will taste like dishwater in a few years so come on Ireland we on the up again so pay up
It started off we pay for water already,
Then we pay twice,no it’s 3 times!
Figures stated at 300M pays for water through general taxation by anti water people,then 500M,
Now it’s s billion?????
10,000 go on a protest,
Anti water says its between 50,000-70,000.
Honestly where do you get these figures from,
Is it just made up to suit the Moore of the day?
I have to agree. I just don’t get the argument that people in Urban areas already pay. I get my supply through a group scheme which I actually *pay* for. My parents have been paying into a similar scheme now for 40 years. If I don’t pay I get cut off – simples. So, if I follow the protesters logic, not alone do I have to pay for my own water and I also forced to pay for water users in Urban areas through my general taxation. It’s about time that urban users were asked to pay for their own water usage the same as rural users have been doing now for generations.
Pat…….you live in a rural area and the price of your house would be a lot cheaper than if it were in an urban area. Now, when you first decided to buy a house in a rural area….were you surprised by having to join a group water scheme or did you already have that planned?
Perhaps as not many of us use the road just outside your house….we should let you fund that yourself.
BTW…..this year will see the end of the grant given to group water schemes since 1997 by the Government,
so….stand by to receive bigger bills from your local scheme. The Government grant was removed in order to pay for the ‘water conservation grant’.
Just in case you need to know…I live rural too.
Al, unfortunately I don’t think that is the argument. We don’t have any street lights, footpaths and other urban amenities etc either if you get me. The argument by the protestors is that water is a human right and should not have to be paid for or paid for twice or three times etc. It just totally ignores the fact that rural people have been paying all along and are scratching their heads at protesters. The other people on my road feel the same – I’ve checked.
You missed the point. You, like me…choose to live rural. How much do you pay yearly for water?
Make no mistake, all group schemes will eventually be taken under the wing of IW and then you can expect bills of €1000 a year plus.
Al, I get your point. I did choose to live rural. I pay 220 to the scheme for 2016, about 85 for salt for my softener and most years 100 for the sewerage. That about 400 a year, give or take from one year to the next ex grant. How about you, how much do you pay? I do reckon that Irish water will eventually take over the schemes, you are right there and the bills could eventually go north. My point is that essentially I am in favour of everyone paying something for their water usage directly. Am I wrong in thinking that the majority of the protests are to do with people being against the concept of direct water charges as they feel they already pay and that anyone who pays twice for their water is a fool? I don’t believe there are many anti water charge votes to be gotten in rural areas but that will all be answered in a few weeks :) if Irish Water is disbanded under a new government then I think it is only fair that rural water schemes should be fully paid for and maintained through general taxation. Would you agree?
He always offers you one of his tayto crisps straight from the bag and never squeezes the bottom of the bag so you cant get a good few. Unlike a FG politician who will remain nameless who always squeezes the bottom of the bag so I can only get a few tiny crisps from the top.
He and his party will soon find out how much it is gone off the agenda. I would like to point out too this arrogance his party has 1 yes 1 councillor in Cork City Council and Cork County Council the biggest County in the country.
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