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The story of Alice Clifford, a Dublin mother who went missing from a hospital 38 years ago

“I’m not afraid of death, death is a natural part of life. But this isn’t natural.” Alice’s daughter Pat says that there are still many questions around her mother’s death.

THE FORMER UK Prime Minister Maggie Thatcher was in Dublin the week Alice Clifford, mother of seven, went missing.

Thatcher had just swept to power during a general election in May 1979, and that November, she joined then Taoiseach Charles Haughey and the other EU heads of state for a European Council summit meeting in Dublin Castle.

As gardaí lined the streets of Dublin, providing security for the European dignitaries’ arrival, Patricia O’Reilly and her siblings were searching Dublin city for their mother Alice.

“I remember going across the Ha’penny Bridge, and if there was a homeless person begging or sleeping, I kind of huddled over trying to move the cloth to see if it was her.”

“I remember my sisters going up O’Connell Street and stopping police and asking them if there had been a sighting of her, and they didn’t know what we were talking about. I can understand now but back in the day we thought ‘Does every policeman not know she’s gone?’”

Pat was 18 years old when her mother disappeared from the grounds of St Loman’s Hospital in Lucan. It’s been almost 40 years since her mother disappeared, but she says not knowing what happened to her hasn’t become any easier.

In those 40 years, her and her three brothers and three sisters have had their mother’s disappearance interwoven into their lives.

DSC_1274 Pat O'Reilly holds a photo of her mother and father at her Dublin home. Gráinne Ní Aodha Gráinne Ní Aodha

In the year after her disappearance, the family took turns each weekend in searching hedges, roadsides, canals and other corners of Dublin in the hope of finding some trace of their mother. They’ve been called in to identify bodies that have washed up on coastlines, some of which have been “gruesome”. They’ve made radio appeals and done newspaper interviews in the hope that they might prompt some new nugget of information that will reveal what happened to their mother.

But each time they talk about what happened, discuss new theories, and revisit that time in their lives when they lost their mother, “it’s like scraping off a scab”, Pat says.

About Alice

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Alice Clifford loved to dance.

An energetic character, her first husband died suddenly from a burst appendix when Alice was in her 40s, the family were under pressure financially, and had to pull together. Two of the eldest daughters left school early to try and get work,  she went back to her job doing part-time administrative work for Cherry Orchard Hospital.

In her 50s, Alice began to become forgetful, and confused. She was given electric shock treatment, but her condition gradually became worse and worse. Later, she was diagnosed with early Alzheimer’s disease.

“There were days where my mother knew who we were, there were days when my mother didn’t know who we were,” Pat says.

Alice Clifford A picture of Alice in her early 20s.

Her second husband John and her daughter Pat looked after her, in what Pat described as a difficult time for the family.

“After the electric shock treatment, my mother had two bald patches, and I remember at 16 or 17 I was taking my mother to the hairdresser’s. I did find it difficult during those years that the roles had been reversed and that I was looking after her.

“There were times when I would’ve got annoyed with that because I was going through the difficulties of being a teenager. I kind of withdrew from school.”

Pat was fifteen when her mother began to exhibit memory issues; all her other siblings had married and had children of their own by then.

“I would have been about 16, and I remember going to work at around eight o’clock in the morning. And at about ten to eight in the morning there was a knock at the door and I was flying around getting ready for work. And my mother was standing at the door in a cardigan and a pair of tights and nothing else.

“Some lady was with her and said ‘I found this lady at the end of the road and she’s disorientated’. We didn’t even know she had gotten up early, there was only one shop in Ballyfermot at the time that would have opened at 8 o’clock and that was up near the Assumption Church. and my mother was trying to find her way to that store.”

“You’d be waking up and dozing off and waking up and dozing off, listening out for her.”

“We were her carers really,” she said.

A foggy Thursday

In 1978 she was offered a week’s respite at St Loman’s, to give her family a rest from what had become round-the-clock care.

She was given another two weeks again in 1979. On the 28 November, two days before she was to return home, she had a craft class at the hospital.

When it finished, the patients returned to their wards – but nobody noticed Alice never made it back.

“She didn’t willingly go in there, as far as I can remember,” Pat said. “I think my stepfather had to sign her in for two weeks. She wanted to come home, so we thought she’s annoyed with the family, any chance she has of getting out of there, she’s going to get out of there.”

When the gardaí came to the Clifford home in Ballyfermot, they asked if Alice was there. When the family explained that she was at the hospital, the gardaí said that she wasn’t, and that she was noticed missing at dinnertime.

“We were stunned,” Pat said.

DSC_1257 Pat O'Reilly Pat O'Reilly

They had to use the neighbour’s phone to let her siblings know that their mother had gone missing, because “not everyone had phones back then”. Two cars drove to the hospital, where they were told the grounds had already been searched. So one car drove up the Lucan way, another drove down the Ballyfermot way.

But then it began to rain, and Pat says she had a feeling of dread.

“I got upset in the back of the car, and my sister said, ‘Why are you crying now?’ because we expected to find her up the road. And I said, ‘It’s raining and she might shelter and we might pass her by’.”

Over 38 years later, and Alice is still missing. Despite the family’s continued search efforts, a number of media interviews and discussions about the different theories that could have caused their mother to vanish, there still have been no sightings of Alice Clifford – and just one testimony offering a possible explanation to what might have happened.

Theories

DSC_1261 An aerial shot of the grounds of St Loman's Hospital. Pat O'Reilly Pat O'Reilly

We were given a date for the inquest, and then I got a call, and the call was that somebody had come forward [with information].

That person was John Fitzpatrick, who said he was working as a construction worker on the hospital grounds at the time that Alice went missing.

He says that he was laying 100m-long electric cables in a large trench, right outside the building where Alice’s craft class was being held that day.

It had then been filled in very early the next morning.

A dig was commissioned on the land in light of this information in 2013, which the gardaí described as “extensive”. But Pat said they were just digging holes across the land in search of cables – and if the cables were found, a more thorough dig would take place.

But they found no evidence of the cables that John had referenced, and no other witness to corroborate his story.

Despite this, Pat maintains that this is the most likely answer to the question of what happened to her mother, and explains why there were no sightings of her outside the hospital grounds – “because she never left”.

“My mother was 5ft 2in, and around 8 stone. If she had found a way outside and fallen in the trench wearing a cardigan and slippers, she’d have had no chance.”

DSC_1254 A newspaper clipping from 1986.

After years of hoping, wondering, and imagining different scenarios, the family are still hoping someone will come forward that will solve the mystery, or lead them to the place where their mother might be.

“I do understand that, there’s different reasons why people go missing,” Pat says.

“One kind of missing is, the IRA killed somebody and dumped the body. Then, there’s my mother, an unwell woman, who would want a woman not well and taking her? So that’s very odd. Then, the children the young teenagers and adults that go missing and might be kidnapped, or sold.

“There’s so many different scenarios, I know everybody misses the person that goes, but there’s always a different reason why, but who would have wanted a woman who wasn’t well?”

In October of this year, Pat’s brother died shortly after being diagnosed with an illness. Another of her brothers is seriously ill now, and she’s adamant to be at his bedside, holding his hand when his time comes.

“I’m not afraid of death. Death is a natural part of life. But this,” Pat says, gesturing to the newspaper clippings of her mother’s disappearance from over the years, “this isn’t natural.”

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    Mute Damocles
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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:41 AM

    Apparently two thirds of “child” immigrants turn out to not be children when challenged.

    The people who really suffer here are the genuine child immigrants.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:38 PM

    @Damocles: A perusal of the Continental newspapers over recent weekd will show that these children have been responsible for some horrific rapes including gang-rapes.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:55 PM

    @MackPilon: One can find anything when perusing Brietbart alright.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:59 PM

    @Guy Incognito: Normally I ignore trolling but in your case i will make an exception “A perusal of the Continental newspapers over recent weeks” You are aware that they have newspapers on the Continent ?

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:06 PM

    @MackPilon: ‘A perusal of the Continental newspapers over recent weeks’ is no substitute for a reliable link.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:13 PM

    I believe what the report said was two thirds of those who had their age challenged were found not to be children. Not two thirds of all child refugees.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:21 PM

    @Brendan O’Brien:Gawd another one, try Google as there are too many links for thejournal to handle

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:31 PM

    @MackPilon: You claim that children trying to get into Britain have been involved in rapes on the Continent. You need to support that in some way; otherwise it will appear that you are trying to smear child refugees in general.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 2:17 PM

    Damocles. This isn’t anything new. Do a Google on athletics cross country competitions in some African countries and there isn’t a hope some of the lads competing under age are actually underage. They are clearly fully grown adults.

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    Mute Brendan O'Brien
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    Oct 19th 2016, 2:24 PM

    It’s a very minor issue that is being used to fuel a general anti-refugee, anti-immigrant mindset and the agenda of the far right.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 3:43 PM

    A minor issue? Good grief. You can be sure that if you put incorrect information on your landing card in New York or Sydney you’d be pulled up on it immediately. I think the phrase you are looking for is anti illegal immigrant rather than anti immigrant. And fraudulently entering a country by giving incorrect information whether by accident or on purpose is quite serious.

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    Mute Ian O Connell
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    Oct 19th 2016, 3:49 PM

    Brendan O Brien: I’m against mass immigration and 100% against refugees coming to europe, but am not far right or even just right lol!

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    Oct 19th 2016, 6:24 PM

    @Ian O Connell: The left are obsessed with the idea that the evil capitalists create racism, and borders, to divide and rule the working class. So anyone paying what they deem to be an inappropriate amount of attention to something like abuses of the asylum system must be on the side of the capitalists – therefore far right. I won’t even begin to pick apart how detached from reality they are.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:32 AM

    Far be it for me to praise the Daily Mail but they ran a similar article yesterday with actual photos. Some of these “children” were grown men!

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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:04 PM

    @Martin Flood: I wouldn’t put much trust in the Daily Mail when it comes to this stuff, their record of xenophobia is mind boggling and they peddle this stuff to their followers and have done for generations. Paper never refused ink could have been coined to describe them alone.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:09 PM

    Whatever your views of these children, or not children, or whatever, the Daily Mail is the probably the most disgraceful publication on the planet.

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    Mute Ian O Connell
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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:45 PM

    Joe Arthur: or probably not.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:46 PM

    There’s others that go by the description of “sacred books” that are far more vile than the DM.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:00 PM

    @Martin Flood: I occasionally read the Daily Mail and it feels like a cross between a creche, a zoo and a care home. You just need a big bag of salt to take regular pinches from. Good fun though unless you’re on the receiving end of their “journalism”.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 3:01 PM

    @Patrick J. O’Rourke: Ah here lads, youse could have warned me about all the diddys before I went to see what the fuss was about the Mail

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    Oct 19th 2016, 3:24 PM

    @Joe Arthur Hardly any more Joe, especially the Irish edition of the Mail, which on social issues is quite liberal. This issue is also a problem in schools, where some migrant ‘children’ register for a school place to secure children’s allowance. Free for all open border globalism is causing a lot of problems

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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:33 AM

    I have seen some of these child migrants on the BBC, some are clearly in their middle 20′s but claim to be 14 or 15.

    Got to hand it to them, they have some balls………….

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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:40 AM

    Sure we all did that in the days of trying to get into Hollywood nights!!!

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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:43 PM

    Well, lie about your age for a chance of living like the luckty ones or go back to hell… Not the bravest decision ever. Sensible more than anything.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:05 PM

    The onus of proof should be on the person making an asylum claim, including compliance with testing, whatever the method used to satisfy doubts.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:26 PM

    You’re right Greg, but it’s probably racist somehow, isn’t everything racist now?

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    Oct 19th 2016, 6:32 PM

    Ah racism, the curse of the unenlightened.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:37 PM

    In Sweden, they call the phenomenon of unaccompanied minors turning out to be fully grown men; Beard Children.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:40 AM

    Some of the “children” were approaching pension age.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:54 PM

    And they’re all pregnant, even the men.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:41 AM

    Is being 35 and claiming you’re 16 inappropriate and unethical?

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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:03 PM

    Depends on why you’re doing it.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:27 PM

    I suppose. Doing it to fraudulently enter a country would probably not be wise.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:42 PM

    I’m struggling to think of a situation where somebody who’s 35 and claiming to be 16 isn’t inappropriate and unethical. Can you give us examples where it’s not, Neal?

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    Oct 19th 2016, 2:08 PM

    @Beachmaster: If you’re playing Spiderman?

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    Oct 19th 2016, 2:19 PM

    @Beachmaster:

    Pretty sure its ok for a 35 year old to claim to be 16 on facebook

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:20 PM

    The poor little urchins, having to lie about their age to escape the terrible persecution of France.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:50 AM

    Look at this guy. Teeth records shouldn’t be needed just common sense. But they’re sorely lacking that in Sweden and also, it would appear in the U.K.http://www.prisonplanet.com/sweden-pediatrician-says-some-refugee-children-are-actually-40-years-old.html

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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:43 AM

    Same problem has existed for a long time in Europe’s asylum system. People with unknown identities, ages,criminal records and origins should not be permitted entry to any sane country. Take the 60 year old Christian woman whipped for selling alcohol in Indonesia instead. That would be both ethical and compatible with self preservation.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:36 AM

    Do they get supplied with shavers for free with gel and aftershaves..

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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:49 AM

    Shouldn’t this article read “Politicians unhappy that migrants are abusing the system”?

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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:28 PM

    Or maybe “Liberal luvvies happy that migrants are abusing the system”

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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:44 PM

    Yeah the jihadist’s have started arriving in Britain from calais disguised as kids, fantastic.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:47 PM

    I’m in favour of a straight up polygraph test, should find out much more regarding truthfulness in statements made regarding background, origins, affiliations or past criminal activity…

    I like the way it’s ‘unethical’ to conduct an age test, but lying on a asylum application is perfectly fine.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 2:16 PM

    Every alleged asylum seeker needs to be processed before they are granted asylum in another country, it has now become a farce.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:02 PM

    Medical ethics have a very much made-up-on-the-fly feel to them sometimes. There’s mandatory drawing of blood for all sorts of purposes, and nary a squeak about it. Is a dental X-ray to establish whether a crime is being committed really so different?

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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:44 PM

    You should see some of the U10′s or U12′s or U14′s etc playing schools football each weekend. And it only benefits the oddball manager who is thrilled that his star can score multiple hat tricks against kids 5 years younger. We have been living with this for years now.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 3:52 PM

    Wheres all the innocent little girls? seem to be all blokes.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 6:54 PM

    Would you trust these guys around your daughter, niece, sister, mother, grand-mother, aunt ?
    Any libtard that wishes to accuse me of being a racist is welcome to do so.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:57 PM

    In Greece, a Syrian 15-year-old boy called Firas is being held in juvenile detention. He was sent on his own by his parents, who are in Turkey, because they didn’t have enough for the whole family to be smuggled in. Because hes’ not Turkish, the Turkish government won’t let him re-enter Turkey. Two activists – an American woman and her husband, who is a Syrian refugee – are hoping to become his legal guardians so that he will be released.

    Many Middle-Eastern and Central Asian, e.g. Afghan, parents who originate from areas of conflict are irresponsible – they send the children on their own with people-smugglers. Therefore, it is Firas’s parents’ fault that he is apart from them. Parents who actually love their children would never do that to them.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/the-forgotten-children-itv-documentary-shows-perils-of-refugee-orphans-stranded-in-europe_uk_57f3c170e4b01e384a3e46bf

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    Oct 19th 2016, 6:29 PM

    If as claimed two thirds of the ‘children’ who claim asylum in the UK are in fact adults, then that raises obvious questions as to whether the same happens in this country. We should perform these tests here too

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    Oct 19th 2016, 6:54 PM

    @Rosa Parks: No it’s something more like two thirds of those whose age is tested. The dental tests are not all that reliable anyway and Irish dentists, like the Swedes too, will probably baulk at doing it. France does bone tests I believe – another reason not to apply for asylum in France of course. There is no real getting around the fact that it’s just crazy to allow people to enter your country when you have no idea who they are.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 7:17 PM

    They are fully grown adults not children!!! What the fudge!!??????

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    Oct 19th 2016, 7:29 PM

    @June Rose-Sommer: It’s racist to judge their age from their photos apparently. Their feelings might be hurt over internet waves or something.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:12 PM

    Seems logical, though some of the commenters here might not realise that living in extreme poverty does add years to your appearance . . .

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:43 PM

    Does it increase the facial hair growth?

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    Oct 19th 2016, 3:14 PM

    I had teenage friends from Pakistan and so on, who looked over 20. I think their dark skins and the growth of facial hair increases how old they look

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    Oct 19th 2016, 7:32 PM

    @Liviu Flore: It does happen, of course. But it’s not really about this group and a few photos. There are huge incentives for migrants to claim to be underage throughout Europe – because we quite rightly treat children travelling alone differently to adults. Including in the criminal justice system and when it comes to deportation.

    And the phenomenon of migrants lying about their age is very well documented. It”s what many sensible youngish looking people would do if you were in their shoes weighing up the costs and incentives before you. The only debate in France, Sweden etc is about what to do about it. Spoiler alert: they have no idea.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 8:44 PM

    Dental Plan……

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    Oct 19th 2016, 9:20 PM

    Some of them adults are trying to pass as children?

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    Oct 19th 2016, 8:06 PM

    I used to say i was 15 on the bus for child fare. Then say i was 21 to get into nightclubs. We are all guilty of telling these white lies. LOL

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    Oct 19th 2016, 3:16 PM

    The UK is such a police state. Glad we’re nowhere near as bad as that over here

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    Oct 19th 2016, 7:08 PM

    David (josef mengle )Davies. Experiment on refugees!hmm? That sounds familiar

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    Oct 19th 2016, 7:16 PM

    @Gerry Fallon: And the Godwin’s Law prize for the day goes to you.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 7:22 PM

    @Gerry Fallon: Its a ridiculous comparison.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 9:17 PM

    It’s a joke.lighten up

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