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CIA papers reveal that Area 51 does exist

Declassified CIA documents provide proof that Area 51 is a real place, but there is no mention of UFOs.

FOR THE FIRST time the CIA is acknowledging the existence of Area 51. The top-secret military test site has been the subject of elaborate conspiracy theories about aliens and spaceships for decades.

Recently declassified documents have mentioned the sites existence, though there’s no mention in the papers of UFO crashes or extraterrestrials.

Area 51 is mentioned by name in the CIA papers and describes some of the activities that took place there. The documents also describes some planes that were present at the site, but there is no mention of any alien crafts.

CIA documents

The records were released following a public records request by the George Washington University’s National Security Archive.  They hoped to obtain the CIA information on Area 51′s most secret Cold War projects, the U-2 spy plane program.

National Security Archive senior fellow Jeffrey Richelson first reviewed the history in 2002, but all mentions of Area 51 had been redacted. So he requested the history again in 2005, hoping for more information. He received a version a few weeks ago with the mentions of Area 51 restored.

Conspiracy theories

The report is unlikely to stop the conspiracy theories as the 407-page document still contains many redactions.

The site is known as Area 51 among UFO aficionados because that was the base’s designation on old Nevada test site maps.

The most famous conspiracy theory linked to Area 51 is that the base is holding evidence from the Roswell incident – the alleged 1947 crash of a UFO in New Mexico.

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    May 15th 2013, 10:58 AM

    polling journal.ie users is very likely to give a skewed result since we are probably more technology friendly than perhaps older generations who are more dependant on tv for their entertainment.

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    Mute Brian Ward
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    May 15th 2013, 11:35 AM

    I got rid of my TV from my flat because I couldn’t afford the TV license and the free-view. For about 2 weeks I had withdrawal symptoms but rediscovered the joy of reading. For years I was an avid reader but tailed off to watch TV because it was so convenient. Now I am reading so much that I forget about whats on the box. I still enjoy going home to my parents and catching up on whats on Sky and enjoy the brief escapism but I still think that there is nothing better than reading a good book and using your imagination to create the car chases. the laughter, the suspense and the adventure.

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    May 15th 2013, 11:56 AM

    A better question would be to ask could people live without TV Programmes. as many here said they watch TV online. These shows are produced by TV companies therefore to say you don’t watch TV is disingenuous
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    May 15th 2013, 3:08 PM

    Jon I didn’t say that I don’t watch TV, it’s just that I don’t watch so much of it. I do enjoy watching various programs and like to keep up with the news and such like. My point is that for years neglected reading and learning for myself because it was so much easier to sit down and get someone else to do the work for me. I still like to go home and watch the box with a range of viewing from the Discovery Channel to Family Guy! TV does serve a very good purpose in that it helps people to relax after a hard days work or inform them about what is going on around them. Now that I have got rid of my TV in the flat I now have time to go through the backlog of reading that I have being saying for years that “I must read that some time”.

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    May 15th 2013, 8:13 PM

    Hi Brian, Sorry that post was not supposed to a direct reply to you but a comment of it’s own (1st time posting a comment). Your post is quite clear, my reference was in general to people who watch tv online but believe there is somehow a difference than watching a normal tv.

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    May 15th 2013, 10:17 AM

    I do all my tv show viewing online, I can’t remember the last time I actually sat down and watched television.

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    May 15th 2013, 10:39 AM

    I’m the same but if I do happen to watch a TV show I’m reminded of the frequency and absurdity of the bloody adverts! Which only reinforces my opinion that TV is crap.

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    May 15th 2013, 10:59 AM

    Only thing worth watching on live t.v is football or boxing . All films and t.v program s are online ad free. P.s r.t.e is an abomination of a channel . They will have some documentary on soon enough i becth you trying to say were actually winners given away all our oil. Propaganda t.v

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    May 15th 2013, 12:15 PM

    Watch bbc then or record what you want to watch and skip through the adds. Television is a necessity in this country because of the appalling weather

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    May 15th 2013, 3:44 PM

    I cant watch anything on a computer screen, has to be hooked up to the telly

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    May 15th 2013, 10:23 AM

    No way, I love TV especially RTE & it’s wonderful cutting edge shows, my only complaint is they refuse to bring back ‘mart to market’ which was compulsive viewing & class TV.

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    May 15th 2013, 11:00 AM

    And mailbag

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    May 15th 2013, 12:58 PM

    Ah yes..memories of black&white film clips of men in brown work coats ,flat caps and wellies beating the ar~es of cows in rings around the country.Now ,thats REAL RTE entertainment!

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    May 15th 2013, 1:29 PM

    And a glorious Radharc documentary about tin whistle making.

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    May 15th 2013, 3:03 PM

    Can’t wait for Wanderly Wagon HD.

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    May 15th 2013, 10:30 AM

    In fairness, Winning Streak is top quality. They say Marty Whelan takes a yoke before every show, which explains why he talks for minutes without breathing and makes everyone feel painfully uncomfortable.

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    Mute Shane Ellis
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    May 15th 2013, 2:27 PM

    I will admit I have a soft spot for Winning Streak. It’s my secret shame.

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    May 15th 2013, 3:02 PM

    It’s everything that’s right and wrong with Irish television at the same time.

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    May 15th 2013, 11:21 AM

    I watch Netflix now more often than regular tv, but I have my laptop connected to the TV with a HDMI cable….so while I may not be tuning into regular tv, I still need the actual television as a medium to watch it on!

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    May 15th 2013, 12:02 PM

    Exactly!! I watched Brave last night through this method rather than on the small laptop screen

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    May 15th 2013, 4:50 PM

    Iv a 500K external hard drive plugged directly into my 42inch tv, hundreds of movies n tv shows at my finger tips! Use HDMI for streaming Skysports off skygo on my lappy! Love technology

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    May 15th 2013, 11:02 AM

    I can only get rte and I don’t or won’t pay a licence fee until they change the shi*te they have on it

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    May 15th 2013, 11:00 AM

    I have a TV but only the XBOX connected to it. No UPC or Sky or saorview. All online viewing.

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    May 15th 2013, 1:07 PM

    You are part of the future Dave. Scheduled TV is history.

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    May 15th 2013, 11:05 AM

    I could certainly live without RTE and it’s daily diet of government spin and Property/Bondholder Tax propaganda

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    Mute Mary Carroll
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    May 15th 2013, 10:20 AM

    Ya who needs tv’s nowadays anyway when uv iPhones, laptops, tablets…

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    May 15th 2013, 10:33 AM

    @mary Carroll,I’d gladly watch you all nite :-)) haha

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    May 15th 2013, 10:39 AM

    ^^^^^ stalker ^^^^^

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    May 15th 2013, 10:41 AM

    Creepy Stalker :p

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    May 15th 2013, 10:52 AM

    Ders always one :)

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    May 15th 2013, 11:00 AM

    Jee’s take a chill pill will ye’s,it was a joke

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    May 15th 2013, 11:14 AM

    :)

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    May 15th 2013, 10:18 AM

    TV has been dead in water for a couple of years now. Online TV providers and YouTube channels give people more choice.

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    May 15th 2013, 10:20 AM

    Only a handful of shows I watch live on TV, the rest online. I know it’s not an option for everyone though.

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    May 15th 2013, 10:31 AM

    Not had a TV for 6 years. Not missed it once.

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    May 15th 2013, 10:36 AM

    I could live without my TV.

    However what I would miss most is the look of total blankness on every Irish politicians face when they are being interviewed. You just know that some civil servant or PR consultant has told them what to answer.

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    Mute Denise Friary
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    May 15th 2013, 10:27 AM

    I watch my TV most nights for arond 2 hours ,I never watch soaps or football,the radio is my favourite.

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    May 15th 2013, 11:15 AM

    Yes, but not without my stable Internet connection!

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    May 15th 2013, 10:30 AM

    I watch all my tv on my Apple TV,then stream everything thru my phone,going to watch iron man 3 later :-))

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    May 15th 2013, 10:50 AM

    No. Just cant live without discovery and ps3.

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    May 15th 2013, 10:53 AM

    Some day future generations will look back on scheduled programming and think it’s absurd (I already do). T.v. stations as we know them are going the way of the dodo as younger generations replace the old. Years ago I used to think having a big t.v. was important but a small laptop screen is my preferred option these days.

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    May 15th 2013, 10:55 AM

    Do all you folks saying no not have a computer console or enjoy watching sports??

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    May 15th 2013, 11:30 AM

    I literally have not used my tv since before Christmas. I dont miss it, nor do I want it. Free tv anyone : )

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    May 15th 2013, 10:57 AM

    Havent had a telly in ten years and never will again. The only thing I miss is the girl with the needle in her lip just before the Angelus.

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    May 15th 2013, 1:15 PM

    My tv got smashed during a burglary back in November, I thought my life was gonna end; it took nearly 6 month for the insurance money to come through. Cancelled my sky etc in the mean time. Got my new tv 3 weeks ago and I think I’ve switched on about twice since getting it. I don’t miss any of the crap I used to watch. Streaming stuff is only brilliant

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    May 15th 2013, 2:53 PM

    How TV Ruined Your Life > http://youtu.be/7T4YTtMxbzk

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    May 15th 2013, 5:58 PM

    Charlie Brooker – absolute genius. I was 2 feet away from him once. Nearly fainted in geek worship.

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    May 15th 2013, 1:26 PM

    We need one decent channel. There’s no need for them to repeat the English soaps and they can cancel all that cack like the lyrics board and the celebrity circle jerks. Max salary of 150k.

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    May 15th 2013, 11:37 AM

    If the tv licence goes up much more, I’ll move to online providers and the laptop

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    May 15th 2013, 12:14 PM

    Got rid of my tv almost 12 months ago. Surviving without it no problem. No desire to get another. See modern programming for the sham it is. There is life after the hypnotic glow box is gone.

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    May 15th 2013, 11:19 AM

    I have an ipad, iPhone and a desktop computer and NO I couldn’t live without my big screen tv ….

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    May 15th 2013, 10:36 AM

    Only time I watch telly is too see the news . Everything else I stream online . Never had a telly in my room .

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    May 15th 2013, 12:56 PM

    I’m with those who use their TV as a conduit for online streaming. Very rarely watch “live” TV anymore.

    A hint by the way- check out mediahint.com It’s a free VPN which you download to your Internet browser (chrome especially) and you can watch the US Netflix and BBC iplayer. I stream it to me telly using Apple TV. Awesome.

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    May 15th 2013, 1:09 PM

    How do you stream content to your Apple TV that’s not through iTunes.

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    May 15th 2013, 1:19 PM

    Using Airplay from my iPhone, iPad or MacBook (Applehead-moi?:-))

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    May 15th 2013, 1:29 PM

    Alas AirPlay mirroring via pre 2011 macs does not work.

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    May 16th 2013, 9:50 AM

    Justin – you can build yourself an XBMC media centre for under €100. XBMC has a beautiful interface, plays just about everything, gives you rich displays of all your local media and there are a load pf plug-ins that allow stream movies, live TV etc, (mainly pirated). I built mine on a Raspberry PI. Also has Airplay and unpn.

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    May 15th 2013, 10:41 AM

    TV is the number 1 place to watch sport.
    In regards to TV shows it’s just so much more convenient to watch series whenever and wherever you feel like it.

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    May 15th 2013, 10:28 AM

    Bloody addiction I wish I could kick

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    May 15th 2013, 11:19 AM

    My large telly isn’t connected to the aerial or any form of receiver. I only have it so I don’t have to watch films or play fallout on a small laptop screen.

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    May 15th 2013, 12:22 PM

    I could happily live without sky as most shows are online but as a gamer I need the actual television set. Plus when I watch a show online I normally connect the laptop to the telly and watch that way.

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    May 15th 2013, 11:08 AM

    I use the tv because the xbox is connected to it, and thats only a glorified DVD player really. Saorview is all I have and poveRTE is still rubbish in HD. Once the fixed line broadband is installed the above will be donated to a club or something like that and I’ll view everything online.

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    May 15th 2013, 12:13 PM

    If you voted, tv inspectors will visit you soon!

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    May 15th 2013, 1:08 PM

    I have a tv with no channels, does that count? Just use it for DVDs and gaming! The channels are crap, hundreds of them and not a single thing to watch!

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    May 15th 2013, 3:25 PM

    Live without a tv – most definitely….
    Live without my stable 30mb wireless broadband and my tablet – not a bloody hope would I last 5 minutes!
    Remeber losing my connection for 2 hours one afternoon. It felt like the world was ending and I was going to be the last to know.
    It never dawned on me to check the news on the telly.
    It was a very scary and confusing time in my life!

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    May 15th 2013, 12:39 PM

    I should thank John McGuire of “I’m an adult, get me outta here” for inspiring me to ditch TV. Six years without now and no regrets.

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    May 15th 2013, 10:37 AM

    I could alright do without it but honestly I just don’t want to!! And I know for a fact that without telly the family would be a lot happier…!

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    May 15th 2013, 12:41 PM

    Don’t have TV anymore! I miss it but surviving without it. In withdrawal. But wondering why I am still paying my TV license.

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    May 15th 2013, 2:52 PM

    Streaming won’t work for us as the broadband connections in our area are not great. Our internet service constantly fails. Only for that we would probably get rid of the TV.

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    May 15th 2013, 11:51 AM

    Try live in a country with practically no English . You don’t miss what you can’t have

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    May 15th 2013, 11:49 AM

    Not surprising, most people are telly addicts

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    May 15th 2013, 11:50 AM

    I watch most shows online now do I could

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    May 16th 2013, 9:46 AM

    I wouldn’t totally agree with the last sentence. I think more and more people are turning away from their computer screens and figuring out how to hook up their Internet content to their TVs – whether that’s HTPC’s, streaming boxes like Apple TV etc or just connecting their laptops. Broadcast TV as we know it is alive and kicking it’s just that we are not all watching according to their schedule and they no longer have exclusivity on our screens.

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    May 15th 2013, 4:53 PM

    Don’t look at much now thanks to the power of the Internet I look at most of my telly stuff on the laptop I can a lot more shows tht I like to at instead of the sh1t that rte shows

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    May 15th 2013, 10:35 AM

    Yes but only while I have a job.

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