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Finance Minister Paschal Donohoe revealed the details earlier today – though few came as a surprise – and now opposition parties will spend the rest of the afternoon responding.
Here are some of the main points:
There’s been an increase of €6 per tonne in the carbon tax.
A €1.2 billion Brexit fund was announced.
Extra funding for the Gardaí will see 700 new recruits hired.
We’ll be bringing you coverage and reaction throughout the day from Budget 2020. Stick with us.
8 Oct 2019
11:32AM
Hello, Cónal Thomas here taking you through this afternoon’s announcement of Budget 2020.
So, how’s it all going to happen?
First, we’ll have Minister for Finance Paschal Donohoe taking the floor in the Dáil at 1pm.
The Budget speech usually takes about an hour, and then we’ll hear from opposition parties who will all take the opportunity to point how they’d do it differently.
And then there’s a series of press conferences from the ministers of seven different departments.
8 Oct 2019
11:37AM
And how can you follow it?
Well, as well as here with the liveblog, we’ll also be streaming the Budget live on Twitter and Facebook.
We don’t have to wait until 1pm to find out what’s in this year’s Budget, though, as many of the provisions have already been well-flagged in the media.
My colleague Christina Finn reported at the weekend that Budget 2020 is likely to hold no surprises with Donohoe downplaying any expectations for giveaways, telling all around him that he will be “safe” and “cautious” as his Budget 2020 is based upon a no-deal Brexit.
But we can expect tax changes, an increase in the carbon tax and a “smaller scale and targeted” social protection package.
While we’re on the subject, we’ve a poll up this morning on the carbon tax and whether readers welcome its likely increase.
Carbon is currently taxed at €20 per tonne of CO2 emissions and the tax looks likely to be increased by €5-€7 per tonne today. It has been flagged that this could result in prices at the petrol pumps going up on midnight this evening, though the minister does also have the option to defer it until January.
The government will likely outline today that the tax revenue raised from the new carbon levy will be ring-fenced for climate action policies.
You can give your say here. Here are the results so far:
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8 Oct 2019
11:57AM
It’s 10 years, of course, this year since the government delivered its emergency Budget in April 2009.
As Ireland plunged into recession, late Minister for Finance Brian Lenihan announced significant tax rises and a decrease in public spending.
Prior to its unveiling, it was predicted to be the most severe Budget in decades.
8 Oct 2019
11:58AM
Thankfully, our economic outlook looks brighter.
Yet with a potential no-deal Brexit on the horizon, the government is taking no chances with Budget 2020.
Here was Paschal Donohoe late last night apparently putting the finishing touches on Budget 2020.
Sidenote: Donohoe appears to have a framed playbill for Colin Murphy’s 2018 drama Haughey/Gregory hanging in his office.
Of course, Independent Tony Gregory was a TD in Donohoe’s own Dublin Central constituency for many years and famously struck the ‘Gregory Deal’ with Haughey in return for supporting the Fianna Fáil leader in government.
8 Oct 2019
12:16PM
So, back to the Budget.
In the face of Brexit, Donohoe is expected to announce a €650 million contingency fund - €500m coming from money earmarked for the Rainy Day fund and the remainder from corporation taxes.
The Budget package has an expected worth €2.8bn, but it is understood that the increase in carbon tax and changes to other taxes, could push it closer to €3bn.
8 Oct 2019
12:18PM
Income Tax was also set to be the big selling point for Budget 2020 but it looks like there will be little-to-no change for workers this year while the Help-to-Buy scheme for first-time buyers will remain unchanged.
Donohoe has indicated that the Christmas payment for social welfare recipients would not be reduced or scrapped, and would be paid at the same rate of 100%, just like last year.
8 Oct 2019
12:27PM
With less than an hour to go until Paschal heads to the Dáil chamber, my colleagues Christina Finn and Gráinne Ní Aodha are down at Leinster House ahead of the action.
In just over an hour, Minister Paschal Donohoe will be giving his #Budget2020 speech.
There’s been a lot of talk about a carbon tax increase ahead of Budget 2020, as we mentioned.
Discussions around the tax have been ramped up in recent weeks, as groups like Extinction Rebellion – which is engaging in a week-long protest this week – call for new measures to tackle climate change.
Down at Leinster House, it’s all quiet on the Western Front…for now.
Christina Finn / Twitter.com
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8 Oct 2019
12:36PM
Meanwhile, the Independent Alliance has been pushing for the threshold for eligibility for a medical card for the over 70s to rise in Budget 2020. You can read more about that here.
Independent Alliance says they have made representations to Paschal Donohoe about raising the theeshold to get medical card pic.twitter.com/tsbePJE4dK
This year’s Budget was drawn up largely to prepare for the possibility of no-deal Brexit, the government said.
With Britain due to leave the EU on the 31 October, it’s coming down to the wire for Prime Minister Boris Johnson to reach a deal with the EU…if he wants to at all.
EU Council President Donald Tusk has just questioned the PM’s seriousness about achieving that end.
.@BorisJohnson, what’s at stake is not winning some stupid blame game. At stake is the future of Europe and the UK as well as the security and interests of our people. You don’t want a deal, you don’t want an extension, you don’t want to revoke, quo vadis?
And Tánaiste Simon Coveney has just agreed with Tusk.
Hard to disagree - reflects the frustration across EU and the enormity of what’s at stake for us all. We remain open to finalize a fair #Brexit deal but need a UK Govt willing to work with EU to get it done. https://t.co/5tUvb6m2K4
“This is a Budget without precedent,” Donohoe says, opening his speech.
These are also times without precedent, however, he adds. “This is a Budget that has been developed in the shadow of Brexit.
While it does not mean that a no-deal Brexit is inevitable, the government must be cautious and the public’s finances kept on “a credible path”, he adds.
“We stand ready to act,” Donohoe says, given the unprecedented event of a no-deal Brexit.
The Minister points out that Irish citizens “played no part” in Brexit nor what it could result in before thanking opposition parties for their co-operation in drawing up Budget 2020.
He warns of the twin risks of an overheated economy and no-deal Brexit and says Budget 2020 was drawn up with that in mind.
“It will be borrowed money. If we do not need it, we will not borrow it. If No Deal does not happen, it will not be borrowed for other purposes,” Donohoe says.
If a no-deal Brexit does not happen, he says, Ireland will not borrow money for other purposes.
“In the event of No Deal, €650m will be made available to support the Agriculture, Enterprise and Tourism sectors and to assist the most affected citizens and regions.€220m will be deployed immediately in the event of a No Deal.”
Donohoe has outlined supports under his plan for food, manufacturing and the services sector:
€45 million Transition Fund
€42 million Rescue and Restructuring Fund
€8 million Transformation Fund for Food and Non-Food businesses
€5 million extra for Micro Finance Ireland
€5 million for a Local Enterprise Offices Emergency Brexit Fund
€2m extra for Intertrade Ireland
€3m extra for Regulatory Bodies.
8 Oct 2019
1:20PM
This approach, the Minister says, will help ensure Ireland’s economy can be protected from Brexit in the coming years.
He says: “This year public capital investment will increase by 22% this year, the unemployment rate has fallen to 5.3%”.
Tax revenues are largely in line with forecasts for this year, Donohoe says. with €40.7bn collected to end-September, an annual increase of 8.7%.
8 Oct 2019
1:26PM
Today’s Budget, Donohoe says, has two strands.
“The budget I am announcing today is designed to protect recent progress in our economy. It will act as a bridge to a better future for our country. Crucial to this will be how we manage our public spending,” Donohoe says.
The Minister expects supplementary funding to be less than half of last year in the health sector.
“My colleague the Minister for Health, and the new leadership team in the HSE, have succeeded in containing the additional pressures in the Health sector to less than half of the level of last year.”
8 Oct 2019
1:31PM
If you’re just joining us, Minister for Finance Paschal Donohoe is delivering Budget 2020 in the Dáil.
While Brexit is the most immediate risk, climate change “is without doubt our defining challenge” but the government has a plan, he said.
You guessed it, carbon tax.
Carbon tax will raise…”an additional €6bn that could be invested in decarbonising the economy while protecting the most vulnerable from the increases in living costs associated,” the Minister says, to some groans in the chamber.
8 Oct 2019
1:34PM
So, that’s an increase of €6 per tonne on petrol and diesel and will come into effect at midnight.
Expect queues at gas stations this evening, so.
Additional measures, Donohoe says, will include €5 million for peat land rehabilitation to support reduction of greenhouse gas emissions and enhance biodiversity.
8 Oct 2019
1:37PM
The 1% diesel surcharge introduced last year will be now replaced with a nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions-based charge, the Minister says.
This surcharge will apply to all passenger cars registering for the first time in the State from 1 January 2020.
The benefit-in-kind for electric vehicles will also be extended to 2022.
8 Oct 2019
1:39PM
Minister Donohoe, speaking in the Dáil, has announced that there will be a 2% increase in funding to the Department of Business, Enterprise and Innovation in 2020, bringing it to nearly €1 billion.
He adds that Brexit is a “key challenge” to Irish SMEs, saying that “a suite of supports” are in place to provide up to €600 million in supports for businesses.
Interesting one – Donohoe has just announced a measure to allow larger microbreweries to expand, with the qualifying production threshold increased by 10,000 hectolitres to 50,000.
“The budget I am announcing today is designed to protect recent progress in our economy. It will act as a bridge to a better future for our country. Crucial to this will be how we manage our public spending.”
The Minister moves onto tourism and says the sector has been performing well in recent years with a record of 10.6 million visitors.
However, there are concerns for its future, particularly from slow-down in economic growth in key markets and the threat of a no-deal Brexit.
Donohoe allocates €40 million for tourism specific initiatives.
8 Oct 2019
1:49PM
How’s everyone doing out there? Sure it’s all go in the Dáil.
Outlining Budget 2020, Minister for Finance Paschal Donohoe says there will be additional investment in housing over the next year.
This, he says, will allow the “government to continue to respond to the significant increase in demand for housing supports while also prioritising investment in the social housing programme.”
8 Oct 2019
1:51PM
There will also be a €20 million increase – to €166 million – in 2020 for emergency homelessness services.
“This will support people in emergency accommodation and increase preventative measures, long-term support and day services,” he says.
House price increase are moderating, Donohoe adds, and government policy is helping but “more needs to be done”.
8 Oct 2019
1:53PM
And, €130 million of investment is being made available for urban regeneration to help rejuvenate cities and towns, Donohoe says.
The high cost of renting continues to be a concern, he adds, and there are now 44 rent pressure zones.
In 2020, an additional €2 million will be given to residential tenancies board to investigate compliance with these rules.
More on the housing front, Donohoe has announced Capital funding of more than €1.1 billion to deliver 11,000 new social homes in 2020.
He says a further 12,000 social housing units will be delivered in 2021 while €80 million will be provided for the Housing Assistance Payment scheme next year.
Almost €2 million in additional funding is also being allocated to the Residential Tenancies Board to support their increased powers to investigate and sanction non-compliance with RPZ measures.
And, as expected, the Help-to-Buy scheme will be extended in its current form to the end of 2021.
Meanwhile, the rate of stamp duty for non-residential property will be increased by 1½% effective from tonight – right after you get your petrol.
8 Oct 2019
2:00PM
Current expenditure in health, Donohoe says, is set to increase by 6.3% to €17.4 billion in 2020 – an increase of €1 billion.
There will €25 million extra for National Treatment Purchase Fund while prescription charges for all people will be reduced by 50 cent.
The monthly threshold for the Drug Payment Scheme will be reduced by €10 per month and medical card income thresholds for people over 70 will increase by €50 for a single person or €150 for a couple per week.
Onto education now, over €11 billion will be provided to the Department of Education and Skills in 2020, Donohoe announces.
This will include 150 new mainstream teaching posts in schools and investment of €1.9 billion in special education.
There will also be 400 additional posts to support those with special educational needs and 1,000 more Special Needs Assistants to be hired.
8 Oct 2019
2:12PM
The Department of Children and Youth Affairs will be allocated an additional €94 million for next year, Donohoe announces.
As part of this, there’s an increase in the allocation for Túsla, the Child and Family Agency, by over €29 million, to just over €814 million as well as funding for early learning and childcare will increase by €54 million.
8 Oct 2019
2:15PM
Donohoe announces a €120 million increase in the investment of for justice and policing in 2020, an increase of 4.7% with the gardaí budget is to be increased by €81m.
The Minister also says there will be additional funding of over €32 million in additional funding to the Defence Vote Group.
On the tax front, Donohoe says he does not want to make tax cuts that may have to be reversed in the future and announces an increase in the Home Carer Credit of €100 to bring the value of the credit to €1,600.
The Earned Income Credit for self-employed people is increased by €150 to bring the value of the credit to €1,500.
8 Oct 2019
2:18PM
The Corporation Tax rate will not be changing, the Minister says. There was a year-on-year increase of 13.2% in Corporation Tax receipts to September, he adds, and that he will be “continuing to take action on Corporation Tax reform”.
For Social Welfare, Donohoe announces an increase of €690m in 2020 for the Department.
A 100% Christmas bonus will be paid to all social welfare recipients in 2019 while there’ll be a €5 increase in Living Alone Allowance in 2020.
The Minister announces a €15 increase for the One Parent Family Payment and increases in the Qualified Child Payment by a further €3 for over 12s and €2 for under 12 as well as a €2 a week influence in fuel allowance.
Concluding his speech, Minister Donohoe says that Brexit is a great challenge but Ireland will grow and our economy will develop.
He says that this Budget invests in our future, while meeting the needs of today before commending Budget 2020 to the House.
8 Oct 2019
2:20PM
First up after Donohoe is Fianna Fáil’s finance spokesperson Michael McGrath.
McGrath says that people will have their opportunity to give their opinion on this government but that the priority right now is for the country to be steered through Brexit.
McGrath says this will be the final Budget under the confidence and supply agreement.
8 Oct 2019
2:23PM
Over here at Journal Towers, meanwhile, we’ve been diving into what Budget 2020 means for you.
Dominic McGrath has been looking into the main points while Orla Dwyer has you sorted for the green measures announced this afternoon.
And already the reaction is coming in following Donohoe’s speech.
The Irish Dental Association has expressed concerns over the proposal to introduce free dental care for children under six, adding that the timelines laid out are unrealistic.
Fintan Hourihan, Chief Executive of the IDA, said that Minister for Health Simon Harris should look at alternative models to what was being proposed and that an interim plan was needed to rebuild the public school dental service.
Responding to Donohoe’s speech, he says that Fianna Fáil supporting this Budget via the Confidence and Supply Agreement should not be seen as “a ringing endorsement”.
He talks of major risks posed by no-deal Brexit and says the government needs to hasten preparations in this regard.
Dáil TV
Dáil TV
8 Oct 2019
2:40PM
More reaction to Budget 2020 now coming in, this time from Age Action Ireland who have said the failure to increase pensions contradicted the Government’s commitments under National Pensions Framework.
The group also said reducing tax breaks for private pensions could have allowed the government to tackle significant income inequality among older people.
Age Action CEO, Paddy Connolly, has said that older people will be “disappointed but probably not surprised by the government’s failure to increase the Old Age Pension for 2020.”
Connolly said that the tone of the government’s message to older people in the lead up to the Budget has been that they shouldn’t expect much by way of income improvements.
We need to challenge our view of ageing and overcome the structural barriers to equality for all ages. Our #Budget2020 Priorities are to Create a Fairer Pension System, Address the Cost of Ageing / Enable Older People to Age in Placehttps://t.co/iTP2G2eBOF
My colleague Michelle Hennessy has been taking a look at the price increase on packet of cigarettes laid out in Budget 2020.
John Mallon, spokesperson for the smokers’ lobby group Forest Ireland has described the increase as a “massive own goal” by the government.
“Ireland is already the most expensive country in Europe to buy tobacco. Thanks to Pascal Donohoe, more smokers will buy their tobacco duty free when they are abroad, or on the black market at home.”
Shutterstock / Grzegorz Czapski
Shutterstock / Grzegorz Czapski / Grzegorz Czapski
However the move was welcomed by the Irish Cancer Society, which said sharp increases in the cot of cigarettes is the most effective way of getting people to quite.
“This must go side by side with proven supports for people to quit,” the charity said.
8 Oct 2019
2:51PM
Alcohol Action Ireland has welcomed the government’s decision to retain the current rates of excise duty on alcohol in Budget 2020.
The group said this is the 7th year in a row that excise duty has remained untouched in Budget considerations.
Budget 2020: Alcohol Action Ireland regrets the extension of excise reliefs for microbreweries; 7th year in a row no change to excise duties - alcohol affordability enhanced, again.
Spokesperson Eunan McKinney said the group, however, had advised Minister Donohoe to begin the process of tapering the tax relief afforded to micro-breweries and said the extension to this relief was regrettable especially when public funds are so limited in alcohol treatment services.
8 Oct 2019
2:53PM
Gráinne, meanwhile, is in her element down at Leinster House. Check out her thread on all the mentions of Brexit in Paschal Donohoe’s Budget 2020 speech.
Minister for Finance Paschal Donohoe has revealed Budget 2020 - and there's a lot of Brexit in there.
Orla Dwyer has been looking at the announcement of free dental care for under 6-s and free GP visits being extended to under 8s.
Orla’s also been looking into Finance Minister Paschal Donohoe considering decentralisation for civil servants.
8 Oct 2019
3:13PM
Gráinne and Christina are attending the post-Budget press conferences, in the meantime.
“This Budget has been framed by Brexit,” Minister of State Helen McEntee says, asksing people to engage in Brexit preparations if they haven’t yet done so.
Sport and Tourism Minister Shane Ross says the tourism sector is already being affected by Brext, and 10,000 tourism jobs could be lost in a no-deal scenario.
Agriculture Minister Michael Creed says his Department is the most exposed by Brexit.
"3 tonnes of beef - over 50% of our production - goes to the UK. On the other side of the Department is the fishery."
Reacting to the Budget, AA Ireland has said the fuel tax increase is “about cash not carbon”.
“Government have cynically taken advantage of the climate crisis to justify a tax increase, instead of outlining measures which would actually lead to reductions in our carbon emissions. Investing in public transport infrastructure, LUASs like systems across our main cities, quality cycle lanes, all these measures would do far more to get people out of the car than a tax increase ever will,” it said in a statement.
SVP Ireland, meanwhile, have said the measures to protect low income households for the impact of increases “fall short”.
Plan to defer carbon tax increases until May 20 is welcome but measures to protect low income households for the impact of increases fall short.A €6 increase adds €1.02 to a 60-litre petrol fill, €1.17 for diesel, 1.44 per 40kg coal bag & 31.2c per briquette bail #Budget2020pic.twitter.com/zgblyzCpTs
Sinn Féin’s Pearse Doherty is up now and quickly launches his attacks on the government.
Sinn Féin's Finance Spokesperson @PearseDoherty says the Government are unable to convert a growing economy into real returns for those who have built it and those it should serve #Budget2020pic.twitter.com/G4mH9UGltC
“We can’t pretend to solve a problem when we’re not – that has been the issue on customs,” says Tánaiste Simon Coveney at the post-Budget press conference.
“If the approach of the British government is take it or leave it, then the British side must know that theres not going to be a deal,” he adds.
"We can't pretend to solve a problem when we're not - that has been the issue on customs," says Tánaiste Simon Coveney. pic.twitter.com/7zWqoLD42i
Strong words from The Irish Farmers Association which has said that Ireland faces an “agricultural Armageddon”.
“While the €110m committed to the Dept of Agriculture for next year is a step forward, much more will be needed now as farmers are already suffering huge losses due to Brexit uncertainty,” IFA president Joe Healy said.
“Beef farmers have incurred huge losses since May 12th when the Beef Exceptional Aid Measure (BEAM) was introduced and these have to be covered,” Healy added.
“Now that the Irish Government has set out its plans, we need the EU Commission to put its Brexit funding cards on the table,” he said.
Back in the Dáil, Sinn Féin’s Pearse Doherty is still speaking. He says that Budget 2020 should have given workers and families a break and criticised the government’s tax reliefs.
Someone not impressed by Joan Burton’s criticism is the Social Democrats’ Catherine Murphy…
Joan Burton, the former Social Protection Minister, in Dáil now going strong on the social welfare measures in this budget. Remind me again what she did when Minister for Social Protection? #budget2020
Away from all the politicking in the Dáil, what will the Budget actually mean for you?
When it comes to health, the sector is receiving an extra €1 billion in funding – expect that figure to be repeated ad infinitum by Fine Gael in the coming days and weeks.
But what is it going towards? Our reporter Orla Dwyer has a write up of the main Budget announcements today for health.
8 Oct 2019
4:36PM
Remembered Minister for Finance Charlie McCreevy in 2003 and his doomed plans for the decentralisation of the civil service?
Well, one of the less-discussed parts of Budget 2020 was Paschal Donohoe’s suggestion that civil servants could be dispersed around the country in the future.
This might sound less interesting that Brexit or climate change, but if this pledge is taken seriously it has the potential to be another headache for the government.
8 Oct 2019
4:49PM
“Fine Gael is determined to put everything to do with housing in the hands of landlords,” Burton tells the Dáil.
The lack of any real funding for renters in the Budget – aside from €2 million to the Residential Tenancies Board – is something that you can expect opposition parties to focus on.
8 Oct 2019
4:56PM
Interestingly, Labour’s Alan Kelly chose to highlight the fact that Taoiseach Leo Varadkar wasn’t even in the Dáil to listen to the response of opposition parties.
He says a long-standing tradition has been abandoned.
It’s a fair point – although Varadkar would probably say he has plenty of other things to do.
We’re going to finish the liveblog here. Goodbye from me, Dominic McGrath, and goodbye from Paschal Donohoe.
But don’t worry, we’ll keep you updated across the site on everything Budget 2020-related for the rest of the evening.
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So if Brexit goes smoothly or is even cancelled/reversed as the anti-democrats want, will we have a supplementary budget full of goodies for everyone ?
@Tommy Roche: If you’re so pro-democracy, you’ll have no problem with the suggestion of putting a proposed deal to a vote by the British people. You know, so they’ll have something tangible to vote on rather than just an idea like they had in the Brexit campaign
It’s no surprise to see governments, here and elsewhere, ratchet up the new carbon taxes considering the ever rising colossal debts that every nation is under…..bankers got to get paid.
@Derek Durkin: That’s a very good point, Derek. And the decision makers won’t be affected by this. It’ll be the ordinary people who will see their lifestyle regress while the rich have their wealth protected abroad.
translation: If you aren’t rich or well off, start buying some extra vaseline and stick the saddle on your back, cos pascal the plank is about to do you over……..which wont be a surprise to any one when he delivers rodgering the ordinary and less well off budget 2020
We need to end these “giveaway” budgets anyway. Investment in transport infrastructure andhousing should be prioritised instead of people getting a fiver in their pocket because one eye is on the next election.
@Kev: ah come on Kevin old people a fiver ffs these people have paid there taxes all thre lives and lived through some shitty times they deserve a much better increase than that now I am not getting into dole but people depend on it to live
@Kev: just cause we’ve been screwed for the last 8/9 years doesn’t mean it should become the norm. we’re now getting screwed even more, and it still we have USC. This lot are accountable to no one it seems.
@Liam O Dubhghaill: €5 increases per month for everyone isn’t going to improve people’s lives. If they invested that money in the likes of transport and housing people would then feel real benefits.
“Expect queues at gas stations this evening” I’m sorry, when exactly did we become Americans? Next it’ll be diapers and faucets, zucchini and eggplant.
As usual the government are going to piss down the backs of the common worker and tell them its raining.
Petrol and diesel gone up because the government have done NOTHING to tackle carbon emisions.
If you live in rural ireland you have no hope. Cant buy an electric car because you have no charging points, cant get public transport because there is none or it is not available when you need it.
You buy a car and get robbed through tax insurance petrol and diesel.
@Paddy Kavanagh: But some commentators on here preach that our country is heaven to live in when in fact it is so badly mismanaged by FF/FG that it is turning into the greatest kip in the civilized world.
Nothing for the young, nothing for the renters. All breaks are either for the elderly or for business. When will these business breaks affect my pay packet?
If you are low waged/minimum waged/social welfare/disabled/old aged then you will face effective cuts to your supports because nothing has been provided to match the increase in inflation due in 2020. This means you will pay more out of your existing supports/income and gain nothing in return.
If you are wealthy then you get to keep your shares tax free/get more state support if you own properties for rent under HAP/have hotels/b&b/so called emergency accommodation and if you are big business then great. You won’t be touched at all. In fact we will give you millions more.
This budget is designed to siphon more from the disadvantaged to funnel it to the wealthy.
this government and its budgets plays those in poverty against those on the bottom wrung working, off each other perfectly, with great favors for all fine geal fianna fail landlords and their corporations to milk the majority dry, not a mention of the USC, that must be included in the 12.5% right or in fighting to give 13 billion back to apple surely the companies fracking gas and drilling oil off our coast will pay their share of the carbon tax, fat chance enjoy another stale budget folks courtesy of those who never cared and never will about you or your struggle to keep a roof over your head
He is such a nice man, lovely lovely lovely, like a walk in Boora Bog on a nice day, a nice cup a tea, or a nice piece of fish, lovely just lovely n nice
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(1) Minister cant touch cent without TD votes.
2 TD have FAILED to have Minister lay before the dail and REDUCE deficit until legislation on statute books making it part of domestic law and (2) Taoiseach setting out Johnstons offer to EU for Dail to name ireland price for consnet to removal of backstop.
UK they are ursing a reckle policy whe it coe to the UK and Brexit and it is because BECAUSE TD and it iis in TD the responsibility lies NOT to have the Govt account to the Dail that a GOLDNET GOLDEN opp misied for IRLAND TO SET OUT ITS PRICE FOR REMOVAL OF THE BACKSTOP in the DAIL not behind the door talk betwene pol paties . How can any TD vote on any estimates when the Dail has no control over that budget yet this is excallyt what min for finance has to have to be able to autgorise as much as one cnet to a dept next year.. And TD could easil have said to min we will vote on yir estimate but in return u must now lay that deal made by Min for Finacne with teh EU and IMF before Dail and reduce that deficit . Instead not only has the govt conto over what is in the kitty t spend and min say 44 billiones owed whihc has dirve the defict up they have given him the key to the PENSIONS FUND to fence of the EU if notice ae serve the he reduce iit and the UK .. I hpe it works but I have my doucbt big big douct and if i am richg well then god held us when it come to relaitn with the UK and as for Germany .. ell they have a DEBOTR .. why cos DAL AND THE TD IN DAIL EIREAN jsut simply cnanot break away form the party and act as TD with the responsibilo of the dail for the allcoation of budget in eas fo them perosnally per s ct in a judget in joan colins case, AND TIME FOR PE TO TELLL lcoal td where is that deal and made by B Lenihan and why isnt it before the Dail reducting the deficit .. atached also extract from NTMA Repot for 18 shhowing how national debt made up twnety per cent being loan form EU and UK .. but MINISTER MADE THAT . ONLY MINISTER .
I wish to apologise for typing error but i hope message getting thru that TD must take responsibility for the state of the country purse. .
1 They failed to have minister lay the deal made by B Lenihan before the Dail.
Attached extract from NTMA report for 18 showing national debt .
Twenty per cent made up of loan form EU and UK made by Minister who cant deny debt but DAIL a different storey alltogether. Minister make deal. Oireachtas make law.
2 As a result the deficit is above the Fiscal Compact Threshold meaning EU Commission can serve notice on govt to reduce debt within a time frame and the cost of brexit are not exceptional circumstances.
How is Dail and Govt dealing with this
TD VOTED and passed an act under which Min for Finance has taken 1.5 billion euro out of the national pensions fund A G A I N to fence off the commission and the UK rather then havng mininster lay that deal before the dail and reduce that deficit.
opposition now on floor complaingin about govt overspend .. dont be fooled . FF can refuse to vote on estimates unless in return the min lays that deal by B Lenihan before the dail and reduce deficit until terms agreed and legislation on statute books.
UK can cause havoc to the economy if they leave and this is really wher the policy set out by B Lenihan on day one .. that DAIL EXCLUDED . is blowing up in our faces but minister now has pension fund to fence off UK and EU with ?? Or has he ?
Rather that DAIL having govt account to it and have
1 Minister for Finance lay the EU/IMF deal made by B Lenihan laid beofre it for it approval and reducing deficit form any debt owed to the EU until then
AND
2 Taoiseach laying before the dail offeer /proposal made by UK to EU for the DAIL to name Ireland Price for the removal of the backstop and NOT A Merkle telling Uk no deal ?
TD quite simply are pushing deficit up and us into hand of EU as a debtor nation when what is neede is both UK and Ire ry to come to an ageeme on removal of backstop cos if uk leave and no deal well then ?
Just remember what ever TD complain about gvot .. a min canot not touch a cent without theri vote .
Minister must have TD Vote in order to ‘validly authorise expenditure ‘ form the public fund but they have no control over what is in the fund to spend cos
1 Minister say and minister have to say cos minister made the deal that we owe 40 billion to the EU and 4 billion to the UK but minister do not make law
AND
2 TD again turned around and voted (incl FF now opposing and complainging about overspending ) to give min for finance key to the pension fund for payments
Every single utterance of a TD on this budget that involve expenditure is pushing the deficit up, a deficit twenty per cent of which is derived from a deal made by a minister never laid before the Dail. All they needed to do is have min lay that deal before the Dail to reduce it until terms agreed and legislation on statute books and mean TD.
If S F . genuine they wld have had the deal made by B Lenihan beofre the DAIL year and year ago and M L McDonnald would have had her space last week to name ireland price for the removal of the consnet . Now they ae relying on pension fund . .
If TD are nto happy they dont VOTE on estimate and can tell govt with brexit that deal by B Lenihan be laid before the Dail cos govt looking to the EU .. sure at moment we are a DEBTOR NATION.. OF COURSE A Merke is going to say what we want to UK.
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