Nonsensical forcing people to air to water systems, more green party from the likes of ‘Rhetoric O’Gorman’ & his ilk. The fact remains that fossil fuels produce the greatest heat output for a greater length of time. The aftermath of storm Éowyn should have shown us how dangerous green ideology is but there’s no one in govt listening. 2 weeks ir more without heat, electricity & running water in parts of rural ireland, in a modern 21st century country that shouldn’t be the case but courtesy of the greens that as well know is exactly what happened.

People had to abandon the new all electric houses during the power outrage. Common sense is severely lacking when it comes to have a backup heating system in place..

Get a used or second hand boiler!!!!! What kind of nonsense is that. I don’t know any plumber who would fit a used/second hand boiler and guarantee it.

How dare old folk request such things do they not realise the lengths the green party have gone to to better our air quality. During the pandemic there was also other great measures that were announced. Such as eamon ryan suggesting people grow lettuce on window sills it’s actually a fact. Maybe if pensioners tried such initiatives they could afford air to water systems and don’t get the bus walk or cycle. Move about more to stay warm roderic o gorman has also been a marvellous idea maker. By sending out tweets in various languages many more shall enter the country with or without criminal records we don’t check anyway. That will be of great help to the housing crisis and safety of pensioners we should be proud of those who make the difference to those pensioners who worked they’re lives they will surely be rewarded.

So, we are going to seal a 600 million euro ‘deal’ for some armoured vehicles. I wonder what the final cost will be and how much it will cost to build a shed to house them. And! like the IT system, will they even work?

What madness.
New oil or gas boiler are 30% more efficient.
The only second hand boilers I see are in the scrap yard. Their not like cars been traded in every few years.
Also
Plumber’s public liability insurance doesn’t cover fitting second hand boilers.
What utter madness.

With all due respect to going green , which I am all for, the price difference between fitting a new kerosene boiler and a heat pump is huge. I know because my boiler went recently. Most elderly people’s homes would not be insulated enough (nor was mine and the cost of retrofitting, grants included, was was to much) to justify a heat pump even if the cost were reasonable. We need to phase out older systems however this should be done as new houses are built and not by penalising older properties where upgrade costs are unaffordable

EU needs to listen to Vance

So the grants are only for used or second hand boilers. Who in their right mind would fit a second hand boiler that someone else didn’t want? No plumber is going to fit a used boiler so this is never going to work.

Heating one’s home is a fundamental human right, essential for basic living standards. Access to diverse heating resources—natural gas, electricity, oil, or renewables must be guaranteed for all, regardless of socioeconomic status. Adequate heating ensures physical and mental well-being and overall quality of life. In colder climates, it’s vital to protect individuals from harsh weather. Governments and societies must collaborate to make heating resources affordable and accessible, focusing on energy efficiency and sustainability. Combating climate change is crucial but should not limit access to a single energy source, negatively impacting human rights. A balanced approach ensures the right to a warm, safe home without energy poverty.

The Green New Deal is a failed left-wing experiment from the EU and this attempt to ban people who have boilers from receiving grants is just another attempt to push environmental nonsense from a top-down position. The idea that we can move to zero carbon emissions by 2050 is a fantasy pipe dream which will end up bankrupting us all. Renewable energy is so inconsistent. You can’t just put in wind turbines and solar panels. You have to build all the infrastructure to connect up with energy consumers. The simple fact of the matter is that the wind doesn’t always blow and the rain doesn’t always shine. We saw this back in 2022 when many European countries had to ration their energy because of them. Fossil fuels have lifted billions of people out of poverty and are the most moral fuel source.

we’ll be like Cuba in another few years, just like they keep old American cars on the road we’ll see a thriving business emerge in reconditioning old central heating boilers, we will not die of the cold in our homes while the Trump world wants to drill baby drill and the Greens want us to save the whole world

we would have import or bought it across the border even second hand.

There is another system called Infra Red Heating. Very green and far less expensive to run and install rather than heat pumps

We British agree naan of this makes sense. More curry, vicar?