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IRISH WATER IS investigating reports of water supply issues in areas of north Dublin, with complaints of discoloured water coming out of taps.
Irish Water confirmed that it had received reports of water supply issues in areas of Dublin central, Glasnevin and Finglas.
“Irish Water, in partnership with Dublin City Council, are currently investigating reported water supply issues in these areas,” a spokesperson said.
Customers have complained about water coming from the cold tap as brown or orange and full of sediment.
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“Customers are advised not to drink discoloured water. Irish Water recommend that affected customers leave their tap running to clear any discolouration,” a spokesperson said.
According to guidelines on Irish Water’s website, brown or orange (rust coloured) water can be caused by a number of things, including:
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Ok, so pirate refilling can be dangerous. Freezing to death or catching pneumonia because you have to choose between food or heat isn’t exactly enticing either.
@ Dali Obama Personally, right now no. But if I was in a position where I was watching my children freeze and could only afford some of this illegal gas then I’d consider it in a heartbeat.
The only reason scams like this are so successful now rather than 10 – 15 years ago is because desperate people will do desperate things, they’re exploiting that. When you turn on your TV you’re bombarded with adverts for “Cash for gold” and Short term loan companies with enormous interest rates, it’s the same thing but in this case the scammers wear suits and ties.
Can we always assume the customer is aware that the gas bottle has been refilled illegally? What about customers who might be ripped off paying full price for dodgy gas bottles. Now THAT would piss me off. Like paying for beefburger and getting horseburger. Neeeigh!
I don’t see what the problem is. It’s like cheaper medicine. Cheaper than the real thing but does the same thing. And they’re grinding down the original branded name so it’s not as if they are deliberately trying to pass off as the real brand.
Don’t be fooled, generic drugs are not the same as branded drug’s. Its only the active ingredients in off patent there are many other compound in them besides. There’s only cents in the difference anyway.
With out boring everyone to death 2 thing’s. I was prescribed klacid last week for a chest infection, the pharmacy gave me cloram. When I wouldn’t take them and asked for the real stuff there was only 12 cents in the difference, worked out less than 2 cent per tab. Lipotor for example has other compounds besides the statens in it, ie the time release agents that allow the active ingredient be released in to your blood stream. Some generic manufacturers havent this technology perfected and their versions can release the active ingredient in to your blood stream very fast making you feel unwell.
tim,
I know full well that vit b3 (niacin, NOT niacinamide) is more effective and safer than statins at reducing cholesterol, and with no side effects.
All B vits have to be taken with a b complex, because the enzymes depend on each other for efficacy, those who take independent b vits are wasting their money.
of course the best way to beat cholesterol is to give up dairy, and/or processed meat.
Generics are IDENTICAL to the original patents. Even if the non-active ingredients differ, then the drug must go through the entire FDA approval process which takes years and tens of millions. No generic manufacturer will do that as their competitors will get the jump on them going to market and the costs of approval will mean they will not be much cheaper.
That’s not accurate. Generics have to go through an abbreviated clinical trial process, in which they have to prove they are bioequivalent to the reference drug, i.e. available to the body in the same concentrations at any given point in time. “Same concentration” usually means +/- 20% depending on the drug. You can put in any non-active ingredients you like as long as they’re generally regarded as safe.
tl;dr – They are not identical. They are supposed to be functionally identical, more or less.
if only people really knew the dangers of what one of these could do they might change their tune. Its a safety issue above everything else. Calor are regulated to provide a product at a certain standard the other company clearly doesn’t care about anyones safety
I wonder if there was an accident with one of these rogue Calor cylenders,if people would or would not be covered for personel injury compensation,its a point that should be kept in mind by people that use them.
I have dealt with all sorts of dangerous goods during my career in transport,One thing you don’t mess around with is butane gas or any other sort of gas as it is in a pressurised container 200 bar.
If something happened the cylinder it would be like a missile taken off seriously injuring a person.
Yes, but how can a company the fraction of the size of Calor provide a product so much cheaper than them? They must be cutting costs somewhere, and that may not be in the best interests of customers even if they are saving a few shillings.
I dealt with a smaller gas supplier.
When I switched fuels, I gave them back their cylinders but they did not return my deposit. Only when I threatened them with the Small Claims Court did I get my money back.
How many other customers never got their money back? How many of these small companies are operating similar scams?
Can you let people know the name of this company for future reference,can you also say if you have ever recieved a deposit back from any of the larger companies,I say this because I know of many who have not and if you look at some of the forums,like boards.ie or similar you will see that there are quite a large amount of complaints by people with regard to this fictitious deposit scheme,
Also,did they have you fill out a deposit return form when you first got these cylinders.
The cylinders are the property of Calor and they include a rental cost in the price of the refill to recoup the cost of the cylinder. Hence the reason pirate filling is cheeper as they only have the gas and filling costs.
You say they include a rental cost in the price of the refill,how do you know this.
Why then does the consumer have to buy the cylinder originally and then also have a rental cost included in the price of the refill.
Would this not be double/triple charging for a product,if so this practice needs to be stamped out.
A lot of the comments here are obviously trying to mislead the public.when they say pirate filling they are trying to scare the public into believing there were something wrong with the cylinders.
What actually happened here is customers like you or I had to buy an empty cylinder origionaly from a dealer be it calor flo or whom else.when you bought the cylinder as far as I am concerned this cylinder was mine or yours.
Therefore I should be able to have this cylinder filled by whom ever I want to fill my cylinder.
Calor and flo gas say these are their cylinders,but as far as I am aware my parents,myself and any person I know bought their cylinder and were never informed it was not then theirs,Has anybody ever been asked to fill out a rental form for these cylinders as in the uk,can anybody come on here and say they had filled out a rental form for either calor or Flo gas within the last 10 or 20 years,
Look at the ruling of the european court with regard to filling of gas cylinders and inform yourselves as to what the real story is here. http://www.jenkins.eu/…/re-fills-brim-with-uncertainty-in-gas-repackaging-cas
While gas in itself costs aprox 800 euros per ton consumers need to ask themselves this most important question,why are we paying so much per cylinder of gas,the cylinder only contains aprox 9 euros worth of gas why are we paying 3 or 4 times this price.Also one very important question consumers need to raise with these companies is the fact that when you return your bottle there is always some gas remaining, possibly as much as 2 or 3 kgs,we are effectively paying for the same product twice.By this statement I mean if you buy 11kgs of gas and pay say 33 euro,3 euro per kg and you can only extract 9kgs from the cylinder you should effectively get a refund of €6.But they will never tell you there is still 2kgs left in the bottle so in real terms the next bottle costs you 39 euro or 3.90 per kg you return the cylinder again with 2kgs inside and the next costs you €40.80.
There is a tare weight on the cylinder say 13kgs if you weigh the cylinder and it is 1 or 2 kgs over this tare weight then you are effectively being scammed of the remaining gas content.
By eliminating the smaller competition the larger operators effectively control the market place and can charge whatever they like,there is no competition in the irish market in relation to this product,in real terms €20 is more than enough to have to pay for this product in a standard 11.34kg cylinder.
Wake up consumers,sensationalist headlines like pirate filling,while may be true in some cases only serve the interests of conglomerates whose only true intention is to control and dominate markets for their own financial gain.
Consumers should purchase their OWN cylinder,and retain ownership themselves and support the smaller companies,which in turn will create more jobs that this country needs so badly.
As stated previously the gas in an 11kg cylinders at todays market price is worth about €9 that is why the smaller operator is cheaper,THEY DO NOT TRY AND TAKE MASSIVE PROFITS TO KEEP THEIR SHAREHOLDERS IN LUXURY AT THE EXPENSE OF THE HARD PRESSED CONSUMER.
The real cost of an new empty cylinder is aprox €20.Consumers can get at least 10 years from this cylinder.
If you can SAVE €10 per refill that is a very large saving,and if you can also get an allowance for the remaining gas content in your cylinder on return the savings are very substantial indeed.
Invaluable writing . I learned a lot from the points . Does someone know if my business might be able to get a template AL MVT 32-13 example to fill out ?
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