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FG TD slams Technical Group for facilitating debate on Ming's Cannabis Bill
But one independent TD said we should not be afraid of “mature debate” on a bill that proposes the legalise and regulate the sale of cannabis in Ireland.
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A FINE GAEL TD has strongly criticised members of the Dáil Technical Group for facilitating a debate on the Cannabis Regulation Bill published by the independent TD Luke Ming Flanagan this week.
Derek Keating has said that the private members’ business is a “waste of time” and a “cynical attempt” by some of the group’s members to facilitate Flanagan “in his mission to legalise cannabis and, as a consequence, to liberalise more damaging and life threatening substances such as heroin, crack cocaine and amphetamines”.
But independent TDs in the group, who Keating criticised, pointed out that they are only facilitating the debate and not necessarily supporting the legislation.
Flanagan’s bill, if passed, would legalise cannabis growing and use as well as regulate the industry in Ireland but it is almost certainly going to be rejected by government when it comes before the Dáil next month.
Keating, a TD for Dublin Mid West, said his constituency has been “blighted by drug barons” and cited research showing cannabis use among children as young as 10.
“Research that was carried out by the National University of Ireland showed that up to 8 per cent of children aged 10 years of age reported having used cannabis in the previous 12 months,” he said. “This is a shocking statistic and one that is eroding our society.”
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He said the legalising of cannabis “is simply unacceptable” and said the Technical Group would be better suited to proposing business that has “been proposed by experts and professionals in the field of addiction”.
In response to queries, three members of the Technical Group hit back at Keating with one of them, Waterford TD John Halligan, saying the Fine Gael deputy is “missing the point”.
He said: “Derek should know, unless he doesn’t know the runnings of the Dáil, that we can’t stop him [Ming] from doing that.
“The Technical Group cannot tell you what private members’ business you can put in. If Derek wanted to put in a bill to stop people over 25 from driving a car he would be allowed to do that.”
Kildare North TD Catherine Murphy said: “He [Keating] clearly does not want to understand what a Technical Group is. It is not, as he well knows, a common policy platform,
She said that she has not yet studied Flanagan’s bill but takes the view “that we should not fear a mature debate”, a view echoed by Halligan.
Fellow independent deputy, Finian McGrath, said that Keating should “get his facts right” saying the group is just facilitating debate.
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With a bit of luck. Hardly surprising given his abysmal track record. Even if a few of these chancers lose their seat it’ll have been a good election. Onwards and upwards.
@Marvin Dollery: You’re putting a brave face on it, but you must be bitterly disappointed that there’s no great far-right wave.
The other night you were claiming to represent the views of the Irish people and calling me every name under the sun for being moderate. All I can say is LOL.
@Frank Mc Carthy: Of course you are lying as usual. If you dispute this, show evidence, like I have shown evidence that ‘Kevvy kerrr’ and ‘Frank Mc Carthy’ are the same person.
@Brendan O’Brien: Nope, I didn’t say there’d be any “far-right wave” at any stage. You assumed as usual, and tried desperately to put a disgusting twist on my points. The only LOL here is for you – you were quite literally made a clown of and hundreds agreed. Still sore from it hence the petty follow-ups.
@Brendan O’Brien: Imagine actually being smug because the uni party is remaining in power, to do more damage. You are so tragically pathetic. I feel sorry for you.
@Brendan O’Brien: Give it a rest will you Brendan. You don’t need to repeat the same crap in every article about the election. Not one candidate has been elected. Also there was never going to be a government led by an anti immigration party. If you actually think there was then you’re the only one. The trolls are playing you and you’re biting and playing exactly how they want you too
@Ger Whelan: Your opinion has been noted and filed in the appropriate place. I’ll say what I want when I want, and if you don’t like it that’s too bad.
@Brendan O’Brien: ah you need to get a life lad. It’s a fairly sad life to be chasing people from article to article saying the same false information. You’ve no idea how many seats the anti immigration candidates may or may not win.
@Brendan O’Brien: Go ahead, enjoy yourself. Damn everyone else. Damn this country, it’s people, it’s culture and it’s future. As long as Brendan is happy and can get one up on strangers online, that’s all that matters. You are the personification of the selfish and entitled baby boomer and this world will be a better place when you are all gone. It’s a pity, but unsurprising, that you’re intent on thrashing the place on your way out though. But don’t worry, my generation and the next, will fix things. We’ll do what you lot are too weak and spineless to do.
@FlipBip: You do realise that we had a democratic election yesterday? Whatever you may be, you are certainly not the voice of your generation, so stop trying to claim a role that nobody has appointed you to.
And if you really want to fix things, getting involved in action on the climate/biodiversity crisis would be a good place to start.
@Brendan O’Brien: Ah yes the climate. Another mess you’ve left for us. Cheers for that. I’ll plant some flowers for the bees, shall I? Go f yourself, you delusional old wreetard.
@Brendan O’Brien: Well Brendan by your logic it would seem the Irish people have no interest In climate action or biodiversity. Our people look to be telling the green party to F off big time and they are re-electing FG and FF to govern. 2 of the lowest scorers for climate action in their election manifesto according to friends of the earth. So clearly climate change isn’t high on our priorities list.
A beautiful day seeing the greenies LOSING 75% of their seats….the pontificating condescending arrogance that more TAXES on the working man would change the world has been well & truly exposed for the nonsense it is
@Frank Mc Carthy: A glimmer of hope in these cruel times. Nobody with a conscience could vote any of them back in. It’ll send a nice message to the next Government as to where the publics anger lays.
@Frank Mc Carthy: c’mon now, a small bit of empathy & sympathy for all the brendan o briens accounts….. coming so soon after the overwhelming victory for the republican party in US, this’ll be very hard for those government shills
@Brendan O’Brien: sure brenny…deflection is the answer, lol. Which is more painful…. the greenies 75% wipeout today or the overwhelming victory for republicans in the US. Bit if advice…don’t ever go boylesports or paddy powers
@Frank Mc Carthy: Imagine retiring at 52 ( apparently ) and spending your days swapping between multiple accounts, talking to yourself and attacking genuine posters in a comments section. This comments section is your life.. it fills your days.. fulfils your inner Walter Mitty and gives you a platform to anonymously show your most odious persona. You’re a very troubled individual.
So no change there then. In the last GE, neither Donnelly or Harris got enough votes to cross the line, but after the eleventh count they were deemed elected anyway. Both of them were handed ministerial positions and there’s Harris sitting in the big chair at the top of the table – an absolute joke.
@Ann Reddin: Do you not understand how our electoral system works? Voted are counted until all seats are filled by candidates reaching the quota. That’s why it can take so many counts. They were elected by reaching the quota after 11 counts, not “deemed elected” arbitrarily.
@Ann Reddin: FG ran a campaign to spilt the vote in Harris constituency last time, that’s why his vote was so low. They didn’t do it this time and he’s topped the poll, most likely. That’s how our system works.
How a man so arrogant and incompetent could be re-elected would be a kick in the face for any of us on hospital waiting lists. Llike most of his party buddies ..a horrible creature.
Bye bye Cabbage Heads, a lot of sore losers about today. Taxing the people doesn’t help the planet! Educating people does!
These green ideas could have been brought in gradually and not foisted on us in one fell swoop!
My heart bleeds for you! Cycle ofg into the sunset with your tails between your legs!!?
@Ollie Fitzpatrick: As much as I dislike Donnelly, he’s not losing out at all, he’ll get his pension etc and he’ll walk into the board of a private company earning a massive salary, while your here sitting in the internet like a 5 year old say ” cabbage head”.
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