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@JillyBean: That was never questioned by anyone. (All lives don’t matter until black lives matter) However, mention that in an event for a marginalised minority is a tactic commonly used by the people who are trying to negate the message.
It was an event for the blacks. He should have stayed on topic.
@Vanessa: He did stay on topic. And no, some do have to have it pointed out that the same laws protecting others legally protect them, as well. We are all one race.
@Michal Rozanski: He demonstrated a terrible lack of understanding if nothing else. He said that ”the remarks were picked up “incorrectly”’, which isn’t even taking full reponsiblity.
@Michal Rozanski: You are taking it completely out of context and purposely so… Why would you do that with something the means so much to people that clearly suffer under a racist system.
@Chris OB: Explain this “racist system”. How patronising and insulting it must be to know people pity you, when you know you are a competent human being making your own choices. In fact, my black family members think just that.
@Michal Rozanski: I wouldn’t crucify him for saying it, but at the same time the ‘all lives matter’ thing makes no sense and when used as a counterargument in the context of the BLM movement. Nowhere in the words ‘Black Lives Matter’ does it imply that other lives don’t. Of course they do. It’s a weak strawman argument primarily used by people that don’t understand the motivation or reasoning behind the movement.
@Fred spins kdb: Black lives matter implies that somehow these are more important than others, which they’re not. All lives matter should be their slogan, as it makes sense with their mission, which is to create equality for all.
@Michal Rozanski: is it saying lives of other races dont? No. There are other races that don’t have to worry about being shot 41 times reaching for their wallet, or going to jail for 3 years for stealing a backpack, or being suffocated with a knee on their neck for using a counterfeit 20 dollar bill. The movement was born out of a desire to afford black lives the same worth as all others in the eyes of the institutions that have been consistently oppressing them for generations. Nobody is arguing that all lives don’t have equal worth, but sorry if the slogan annoys you.
Imagine in 2021 that saying ‘all lives matter’ would be something that would cause offense.
What’s it gonna be like in 10 years time with all the political correctness gone mad , and all the younger generation being taught through tiktok videos that their entitled to safe spaces and trigger warnings for everything, it’s alll gone mad Ted.
@Ronan J Walsh: no. The issue is that ALM was used to undermine the BLM movement.
In the case of this article. No harm was meant, he used the phrase trying to be inclusive without realising that could be seen as hurtful to some sections of society and apologised for any confusion.
A useful analogy would be calling residents of the 6 counties British. Lots of those people would get very offended. If it is a loyalist intentionally saying this, it is intended to cause hurt, and they should be called up on it. if it is someone from another country, who doesn’t realise the dynamics of the north, once pointed out that their “factually correct” statement may have upset a section of the community, they would apologise if they are a decent human being.
@Ronan J Walsh: You need to understand the Historical Context.
In US history, there were a series of differences between the States, from the Declaration of Independence onwards. Each of these, up to 1876 were “solved” by a series of “Compromises”. EVERY one of these subordinated Black Lives and rights to the “needs” for unity. The first few licenced Slavery and its expansion. The 1876 Compromise licenced Jim Crow Segregation for almost a Century.
White lives mattered; Black lives did not.
Either consciously or not, BLM make explicit that, at this time and in this place, Black Lives Matter, for the first time in History!
@Crocodylus Pontifex: Exactly , BLM have slipped up in revealing their anti family communist agenda and if someone prefers to say ALM that is their right, can see the American cancel culture creeping in here as well, it was all over the comments on another story here last night, bloody sheep.
What a load of Drivel from both sides , No doubt Mr Douglass was a remarkable man deserving of all accolades , but the term all lives matter has now become a stick to beat non knee benders with . You have free speech slowly but surely being cancelled by the permanently offended
It is hard to take BLM serious all the time, when certain elements have been exposed as dangerous aka the looting/rioting/defund the cops/bullying/cancel culture/racist (ohhh the irony)/anti Jewish/Marxist views and also what happened with the EuroSpar and the guards!
‘Black Lives Matter has come to be associated with racial justice across the globe’.
Has It? I had assumed Black Lives Matter had become a political movement linked to the democrat party.
How does vandalising statues enhance racial justice?
@Marg FitzGerald: Not to racists, no. It’s way too easy to assume that if you’re doing all right, that everyone else is being treated equally and fairly. In his position, he knows that people don’t always get fair treatment. Prejudice is sly and thriving.
Will we ever stop comparing ourselves to America FFS. Let them do what they do over there and we worry about ourselves. Surely we have enough to be worrying about here right now.
You’re at an event for something very in harmony and at the heart of the BLM message, and you say ALM as a public servant. Accountability is guaranteed. At the very least it’s totally tone deaf.
Very difficult to get everything right these days. Looks like it’s better not to open one’s mouth at all. Of course black lives matter as do all lives.
@Gearóid Ó Murchú: You will never get everything correct, because there are far too many ” Politically Correct ” out there , — can’t say that, can’t do this,– you might — or will–, offend someone. We are being pushed in the wrong direction by the “Politically Correct” Brigade. Tell everyone the truth, stand up against this cruisade that is being washed on us . EVERYONE obey the law as it is in OUR Country .
So mr Douglass effectively ended up campaigning for all lives. How dare he diminish black lives. What a whole load of pious indignant crap all of this is. Being married, heterosexual, male, nearing 60 I feel very very marginalised. I seek equality but that’s a dream. I’m also part of the squeezed so called middle class ( but of course Ireland’s classless). I’ve done my bit – given ireland 3 children to keep the good old Republic marching forward so their taxes can keep those in power in the life to which they are and will be accustomed. Where’s equality for me. Nothing but a dream.
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