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M. Spencer Green

There were 27 shootings in Chicago over the Christmas weekend

12 of the gang-related shootings were deadly.

CHICAGO POLICE ARE investigating 27 shootings – 12 of them deadly – that occurred on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, at the end of an already historically bloody year.

Chicago police superintendent Eddie Johnson told reporters that many of the recent shootings appeared to be gang-related.

“We now know the majority of these shootings and homicides were targeted attacks by gangs against potential rival gang members and groups who were at holiday gatherings,” Johnson said at a press conference.

“These were deliberate and planned shootings by one gang against another. They were targeted knowing full well that individuals would be at the homes of family and friends celebrating the holiday,” Johnson said.

The Christmas weekend violence occurred during a year of record bloodshed in America’s third-largest city.

With a week to go before the year is over, more than 750 people have been killed in Chicago in 2016, marking the first time in nearly two decades that the number of homicides has exceeded 700, according to the Chicago Tribune newspaper, which has been tracking the violence.

There have been more murders in America’s third-largest city than in the two largest – Los Angeles and New York – combined.

The city is awash in illegally obtained guns, a major contributor to the problem, law enforcement officials say.

Chicago is planning to hire nearly 1,000 additional police officers over the next two years to help combat the rise in crime.

© AFP 2016

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    Mute Martin Flood
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    Dec 27th 2016, 10:57 AM

    And the Liberals consider “stop and search” by the police to be against their human rights. I despair.

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    Mute Larry Doyle
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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:03 AM

    The Supreme Court determined it to be unconstitutional.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:03 AM

    @Martin Flood: the reality is that stop and search applies and continues. It has not prevented the gun incidents.

    An unequal society and limited escape from poverty, social alienation and urban dereliction are the major contributory causes. Then add the cheap availability of a massive supply of guns and there is a potent combination for gangbralted gun battles, which can and do result in the killing of non participants.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:07 AM

    Imagine walking down Grafton St minding your own business, when a guard (with one hand on his gun) stops you and insists that you stand up against a wall while he “pats you down”. I’ll pass on a society like that thanks

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:07 AM

    But I’m white so I guess I’d have nothing to worry about anyway

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    Mute Teddy
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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:25 AM

    @nialls. Imagine that there had been 27 shootings,12 deadly, in Dublin over the weekend .Its all about context.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:34 AM

    Teddy I think most people realised my comment was a simple analogy. Thankfully we don’t need such draconian laws here.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:42 AM

    If there were more guns in the US these shootings would never have happened. Or something….

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    Mute Deborah Behan
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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:00 PM

    @Martin the liberals want stricter gun controls or even bans but I guess that would be out of the question for you.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:13 PM

    I don’t agree with the unequal society and no escape nonsense! Generations of these people have done nothing to help themselves. The gang and drug culture is an easy excuse for them, all they want is the quick buck with no interest in education or working in any way!!

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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:18 PM

    Only problem is you would have some trouble getting the guns away from the gangs, just look at how easy our gangsters get their hands on weapons and we have one of the tightest gun laws on earth!

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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:25 PM
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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:51 PM

    Obama did all right.

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    Mute Francis Mc Carthy
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    Dec 27th 2016, 1:20 PM

    @Lord Clanricarde: What would be your advice to the young men living in neglected & segregated areas like Baltimore ? I always loved to hear fairy tales on a Tuesday..

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    Dec 27th 2016, 1:56 PM

    Neglected and segregated, please tell, by whom??

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    Mute Francis Mc Carthy
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    Dec 27th 2016, 2:32 PM

    @Lord Clanricarde: Ever hear of redlining in the mid 1930′s ? Hope this helps.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 3:08 PM

    Francis -the effect of redlining persists today in the form of neighbourhoods consisting mostly of people of colour that have high poverty rates, low home values and declining infrastructure.And when you have low home values,you then have the unfortunate knock-on effect on how much funding that you get for your schools..

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    Dec 27th 2016, 4:19 PM

    “And the Liberals consider “stop and search” by the police to be against their human rights. I despair.”

    “The Supreme Court determined it to be unconstitutional.”

    The judge didn’t have an issue with “stop and search” per se..it was the ‘racial profiling’ aspect of it that was found to be unconstitutional ..
    A recent example of this would be the Justice Department and it’s findings that the Baltimore Police Department engages in unconstitutional practices that lead to disproportionate rates of stops, searches and arrests of African-Americans, and excessive use of force against juveniles and people with mental health disabilities..

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:03 AM

    Oh there’s no place like homies for the holidays.

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    Mute Micheal OLainn
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    Dec 27th 2016, 10:59 AM

    The gun nuts would have us believe that none of these shootings are not in any way gun related.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:03 AM

    I hate to say it but Chicago has some of the tightest gun control laws in the US. America’s problem goes way beyond simply access to firearms. Although ideally, restricting access (impossible now) would have been the way to go.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:16 AM

    It’s a very short drive into Indiana where they have some of the weakest gun safety laws in the world.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:35 AM

    They were apparently gang related shootings so I am guessing that they weren’t legally held firearms so gun laws don’t come into it.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:42 AM

    Are you serious Brian? There are 300 million guns in America because of their gun laws. If they had stricter gun laws it would make it more difficult for gangs to get their hands on guns.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:53 AM

    @Brian Ward: the guns used were illegally held but all guns start off legally owned. 330 million guns are estimated to exist in the US. With that many guns, someone will fund a use fir them.

    Not all guns reside in specially designed safes, firing mechanisms removed and ammunition in a different location.

    The wonder is that more people are not killed.

    A average of 8 children per day due in gun related incidents in the US. The right to bear guns is more important than the rights to live.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:22 PM

    @Shane McGettrick: correct it has the most strict laws in the US. Surprise surprise It’s Republican Mike Pence’s state of Indiana that is the cause.

    Have a read.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-gun-violence_us_58082033e4b0dd54ce37ad9e

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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:31 PM

    @Niall O’Tuama: Inagree that lax laws in neighbouring States can result in high gun crimes in strict gun controlled Stated but if enough guns are in circulation, they will tend to fall into the wrong hands.

    The more guns, the more availability and the greater tendency to use the guns, regardless of the legality or otherwise of the guns.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:45 PM

    So where do our boys get their guns?

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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:46 PM

    There are a quarter of a million legally held guns in Ireland!

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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:55 PM

    @Niall O’Tuama: Blaming gun laws in Indiana for gun violence in Chicago is like blaming Romania for the gun violence in Dublin because the AK’s used in the Regency Hotel shooting were made there. Tougher sentencing for possession of an unlawful weapon and transportation of the same over State lines would restrict the amount of guns available but it won’t stop gun crime in Chicago. Gangs will always find a way to source weaponry whether it is the State next door or a foreign country.

    Chicago has the toughest laws in the country so if they have the worst gun violence also it is down to the shooters mentality and not the weapons that they use. There is no point in blaming an inanimate object for a murder, it’s the person that uses it who is responsible.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:55 PM

    michael double negative. what you said is the gun nuts believe these deaths are gun related. stand facing the wall with a dunce’s hat on.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 1:00 PM

    @Patrick Gough: I enjoyed the irony of that remark coming from you.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 1:03 PM

    @Micheal OLainn: This survey https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/19/just-three-percent-of-adults-own-half-of-americas-guns/ carried out by Harvard?NorthEastern Universities puts gun ownership at 265 million which is a long way from your figure of 330 million. It also shows that gun ownership is down 3% and that 78% of Americans don’t own any gun. The next 19% own half the guns and a mere 3% own the other half.

    This completely dispels the myth that every American owns a gun or the notion that there is a gun for every American.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 1:17 PM

    @brian ward – if Irish criminals were able to fly to Romania, buy all the guns they want over the counter and bring them back here, then you can be 100% sure I’ll blame Romanian gun laws.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:12 PM

    One black assailant gets shot by the cops and there’s national and international protests, anarchy and violence on the street by Soros funded “Black lives Matter” , random white people attacked – 5 white police officers murdered in retaliation. 27 black on black gun deaths over a weekend, where’s the outrage , where’s the protests in Obamas home town?

    No wonder white people move to the suburbs.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:24 PM
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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:34 PM

    @John Byrne: you are very black and white is most of your posts. It’s a running theme, an obsession.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 1:03 PM

    @John Byrne: Can you provide a credible source that ‘Black Lives Matter’ is funded by George Soros? And how much that he has given them ? Thanks .

    If you are looking for anarchy and violence on the streets in the US,then you should put ‘riots at sports events in America’ or ‘rioting at pumpkin festival’ into your search engine ..

    Isn’t it great that white people can move to the suburbs ? Do you know one of the reasons why ?

    Thanks in advance ,John,

    P.S :Love your posts

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    Dec 27th 2016, 1:26 PM

    Francis, Michael .. You are one and the same – Mass Immigration advocates, open border extremists.. waste of time replying to you. there are numerous sources linking Soros to Black lives matter and civil anarchy in the US

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913625/Billionaire-George-Soros-spent-33MILLION-bankrolling-Ferguson-demonstrators-create-echo-chamber-drive-national-protests.html

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    Dec 27th 2016, 1:27 PM
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    Dec 27th 2016, 1:29 PM

    John – you would want to fact check that..

    Good lad.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 1:30 PM

    And my reply was to your first link (Daily Mail )..Yikes.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 1:34 PM

    And just because some people are suing,it doesn’t automatically mean that a group or an individual is guilty. Nice try though.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:35 AM

    It’s still a very safe place, this violence is confined to certain ethnic groups.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:56 AM

    @Eamon Mac Gowan: actually, you are factually incorrect. An average of 8 children per day due in gun related incidents and the deaths afflict every community.

    The lives of all people, regardless if ethnic group, are equally valuable and equally worthy of protection. No members of any ethnic group are dispensable.

    All human life is equally valuable, regardless of race, ethnicity or religion.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 8:00 PM

    @Micheal OLainn: You’re talking rubbish again, more PC garbage.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 8:02 PM

    @Micheal OLainn: That’s if you count 18 and 19 year old’s as children.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:23 AM

    They’re nutters.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 1:42 PM

    Nutters with guns

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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:14 PM

    Why do liberals support gang culture given their propensity for violence?

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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:22 PM

    @Alex Falcone: they don’t but you already know that.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:25 AM

    Robocop required.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:02 AM

    Gun crime increasing so they put more cops (with guns) on the street. The never ending circle continues.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:07 AM

    Maybe they should have given them water pistols instead

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:14 AM

    You missed my point or maybe I phrased it incorrectly. Obviously more cops are needed and of course they should be armed but it’s not a long term solution. If the answer to increasing gun crime is to employ more cops where does it end? They will end up with a completely militarised state and surely nobody wants that

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:19 AM

    With the military dumping excess weapons and armoured vehicles from Iraq and Afghanistan on local law enforcement, it’s already happening.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:23 AM

    At what stage will we decide to stop travelling to America, fearing for our safety? It could be sooner than we think. The fact that most shootings don’t even make the news anymore shows how deep the issue really is.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 2:34 PM

    @Nialls, Stay inside your house and lock all the windows and doors.

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    Dec 28th 2016, 4:15 AM

    And you keep your head buried in the sand

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:25 AM

    I’d rather live in Limerick then anywhere in the us

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:25 AM

    Christmas dinner turkey, ham, gravy, stuffing, mash, Brussels sprouts, carrot/parsnips, cranberry sauce. yesterday I had turkey, stuffing, mash, carrot, gravy, cranberry sauce. today I had the same. tomorrow I will have turkey leg, mash, carrot and gravy…. down to end of the Xmas left over turkey….Noooo!! Oh and that Chicago thing is also sad!!

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:20 AM

    And I thought it was bad here with the gangsters shooting each other!

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:37 AM

    It’s like comparing a nuclear attack to a fart

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    Dec 27th 2016, 4:15 PM

    I lived in Chicago for a time. I visited many a ‘dangerous’ area and often alone with my work. Usually walking a distance through these areas to get to service users. I felt safer and was treated with better respect than when I was a young census enumerator with a strong working class accent in South Dublin’s more affluent areas,

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    Dec 27th 2016, 8:34 PM

    @Keith Wizzy: You were very foolish, no way I’d go into the Hood.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 12:39 PM

    Terrorism is the greater threat though.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 3:45 PM

    It’s like that most weekends in Chicago. That city needs a clean up similar to what they did in New York all be it on a smaller scale

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:49 AM

    Hank Voight will solve them all!!!

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    Dec 27th 2016, 1:00 PM

    I read a statistic. In 1927 the murder rate in the usa was 4X the present rate.

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    Dec 27th 2016, 11:04 AM

    Id say most of these could be stopped by just closing the shops until the new year. Over there they start shooting over who gets to buy a good bargain from Mal*Wart

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    Dec 27th 2016, 5:44 PM

    Chicago a bankrupt city thats crime ridden even by American city standards.

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