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THE FIRST OF three televised debates between the two US presidential nominees took place last night – but which candidate would Ireland elect as leader of the most powerful country on earth?
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are virtually tied in some polls, although others have the former US First Lady leading by over five percentage points.
In a poll conducted by Claire Byrne Live/Amárach for TheJournal.ie, just 6% of the 1,000 people polled would choose Trump as US president.
This includes one in every 10 men polled, and just 3% of women polled.
The poll also has Hillary Clinton winning 78% of the Irish vote – three out of every four men polled, and 81% of women.
A sizeable proportion – 16% said they don’t know, a segment split evenly enough between males (15%) and females (16%).
While the Irish at home are firmly supporting Hillary Clinton – whose husband Bill was instrumental in the Northern peace process during his presidency, clearly not all of the Irish diaspora agrees.
According to a poll run by Irish diaspora site Irish Central, 63% (2,225 voters) said Donald Trump won the first round of last night’s presidential debate, while 32% said Hillary Clinton had the upper hand.
Clinton was also adjudged to have won by the markets, which rallied following her strong showing.
In a snap CNN poll of 521 voters, 62% judged that Clinton had won the debate against 27% for Trump, with most mainstream political analysts agreeing Clinton was the stronger performer.
Yet 61% of voters in a CNBC poll thought that Trump had carried the debate, indicating the polarisation at the heart of the debate.
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Who do Irish people want to be elected US President? Neither I would imagine, Morgan Freeman would be good or Harrison Ford.
Get off my plane…
@Conor Mac Manus:
How about Bill Pullman?!
@Ciarán Masterson:
Bill Pullman has a lot of Trump like qualities, getting overly emotional and his main supporter was a clichéd ignorant redneck.
That cnn poll took more votes from people that describe themselves as Democrats than those that describe as republican. Totally biased poll gets totally biased answer.
As bad as a L’Oréal ad when they say… “78% of 99 women agreed”.
And CNBC didn’t do the same with Republicans? Funny how you ignore that one.
Trump would run a country as a business so the citizens would be like employees.
@point blank and king tut
Well I have figures to show the CNN one was skewed
Asking 41% of democrats and 26% of Republicans and Clinton done better.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/27/post-debate-poll-results-analysis-clinton-trump
Do you have figures for the CNBC poll?
It’s not my business how the US votes,we are great at telling other countries how to vote ,first the Brits on their referendum and we got that wrong now it’s the US.I think all those who vilified Trump and protested against him visiting Ireland Might get the opportunity to explain their position to the twenty thousand illegal Irish living in the US as they make their way home if Trump is elected .The Americans have a saying what goes round comes around.As a matter of interest Trump is not my cup of tea either but he won’t be my President.I accept that his election may have an impact because of the power of that office but that doesn’t give me the right to tell America how it should vote.
Now Al Thor, illian was getting on fine until you came along
It’s official, the American political system is a shambles and is deteriorating by the week
Trumps “that makes me smart” ..homer simpsonesque reply to the accusation he paid no federal income tax was especially cringe worthy.
Noonans obsequious toadying to Drumpf on the Shannon tarmac now seems all the more pathetic with the passage of time.
A pity the lowlife didnt treat Bridget McCole with such reverence
And our system and politicians are the standard other countries should aspire to achieve,something about stones in glasshouses comes to mind,but on the other hand we’re no longer a sovereign state so who we elect doesn’t matter.
Trump wants to force US multinationals to return their jobs to the US. Clearly a lot of Irish people would not like to see that happen.
@James Xenophon: true but rabid right wingers flock to Trump because he presses the right buttons of fear and hate. Some people vote with the heart. Trump knows that. He is a superb manipulator.,
James, that was a major plank of Obama’s first campaign too, yet he’s a hero to the liberals here.
@Brian Lenehan: I get the feeling Trump means it. The thing about Obama and Hillary is they’re typical status quo politicians and you can believe they won’t do anything radical.
So you’re saying Obama lied on one of the main tenets of his election campaign to gain power? You’re saying, like Pat Rabbitte, Obama would say anything to win?
Par for the course in politics? That may be acceptable to the at-all-cost liberals, but it ain’t good enough.
I’m not defending Trump though, to be clear. Like one box-pop interviewee said, this election is like choosing between a heart-attack or a stroke.
When Trump was asked twice how he would bring those American companies back he did not answer the question. He talked about how he’d stop more companies leaving.
Donald Trump supporters artificially manipulated the results of online polls to create a false narrative that the Republican nominee won the first presidential debate on Monday night. http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/trump-clinton-debate-online-polls-4chan-the-donald/
Donald did a different type of debate prep.
No mention of reddit and 4chan users vote brigading the online polls to skew the polls in favour of Trump, rendering the polls irrelevant? Seriously, do we have to do your jobs for you?
Prove it.
@James Odin: There ya go. Straight from the horse’s mouth- https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/54oimr/time_wants_to_know_who_won_the_debates/d83m34c
Just 6% of Irish people would vote for Trump,and they all comment on The Journal,LOL! Great to see confirmation the far-right are a tragic and sad little minority in Ireland.
Trump is a dangerous clown, he shouldn’t be anywhere near the Whitehouse.
When I went to the bookies with a small 500 euro bet on Trump the lady said she was afraid of Trump, he would start a war. But now as the campaign enters its final phase, the Irish are beginning to realise they are the victims of a massive media conspiracy to enforce global multi cultural green rule with no democratic mandate. There was an article in last Saturday’s Irish Times about how the American Irish will vote. These were business people. The heading was Irish Entrepreneurs will vote for Trump. So I think it’s about 50% / 50 % hear. but thank god that does not matter. The US voter is veering towards Trump. There is one problem with a Trump victory. If he wins, I will drink so much whiskey and beer as to have to be pumped out. The public realise they are being screwed by media and by the likes of Bono, John Brutal, Mary Robbinus, Bruce Springboard, Barbra Strident, Chair form Bonny and Clyde and RTE. They are finished.
You can now watch American TV live on your lap top. No one is buying their papers. The times they are a changin. My side is winning. Come on Trump
Quoting the CNN poll is laughable considering its was skewed and biased. It polled more democrats than anyone so of course it was going to give a bias view . It’s a shambles for Americans that these Clinton and trump are the options . Both liars, both despicable people, both greedy and both not fit for president.
CNBC poll got completely different result. Couldn’t trust any of them
CNBC #DebateNight poll
Trump 61%
Clinton 39%
Personally, I don’t care.
@Tom Thumb: Since independence the Irish enjoyed security under the umbrella of NATO. So its easy not to care. You have to remember that Europe is starting up a European Army. In a war situation, (which Europe is good at bringing about.) You or your children will be conscripted. If the American’s are not there or too weak, or under a an alt left government, your children will have to fight. They know the Irish are good fighters and off they will go. Trump will keep NATO but will make the leftie commie governments contribute towards their own security. How will the greenie alt left like that?.
@Val Martin: Trump doesn’t call the shots.American big business calls the shots. Irish people living in Ireland will never be conscripted.
Just as well most Irish people can’t vote in US elections…. Johnson 2016
Harambe will get more votes than Johnson
@Peter Buchanan: Gary Johnson when asked about how he would handle the situation in Aleppo:
“and what is Aleppo?”
Disqualified
I would love to see” President Hillary Clinton” come back to Derry and stand at the new Peace Bridge in 2020 for the 25th anniversary of the visit of her Husband Bill to the city in 1995. And the signing of the peace process that followed the following year. The input of George Mitchell and the US team set up by Bill Clinton along with the Politicians North and South of the Border and the British Government into the peace process should never be forgotten. If Hillary is elected in November this invitation should proceed from our Taoiseach/President.
Trump “won” the debate.. He works the same way as OLeary for Ryanair, any publicity is good publicity, negative publicity is FREE. After the debate Trumps name was used 70% more and Hillarys only 30% via social media. Don’t forget as in any democracy its the stupid people vote you need to win. To do that, tell them what they want to hear, which is what hes doing. The stupid vote is 60-70% of the population (as recently demonstrated in Ireland with the likes of the Healy-Raes, Lowry,anyone for labour,greens,etc being voted in) In the end though it doesn’t matter which one gets in, they are simply a mouthpiece for their parties big business interests (as it has been since the 1950s) They have no real power as such.
Calling people stupid and racist is one reason Brexit succeeded.
@Mumpsimus: Brexit is another ball game, that’s a yes or no option. Youlld find that in almost any democracy the worst canditates than most logical people get voted in because of the power of stupid people in large numbers.
Hillary Clinton won the debate on Monday. and while she was doing it, Trump won the election
Most people had heard so much negative coverage about Trump that they fully expected him to act like a moron, a thug and a monster. All Donald Trump had to do to ensure his election was to appear reasonable and talk about the issues in a normal way.
Many potential voters were surprised that he wasn’t the ridiculous caricature of a man the media make him out to be.
The LA Times poll for today shows that Donald Trump has gained support in the aftermath of the debate. He has 46.7% support, compared to Clinton’s 42.6%.
To be honest in Ireland, chump would win hands down. He has all the merits to rise to the top in Irish politics. His lazyness in knowing anything about how politics works. waffles on for hours spouting populist slogans playing on people’s fears and promising an unrealistic future. Then denies he ever insulted anyone or promised anything. He will permote family’s members to well paid public positions of power so he can control democracy without worrying about any criticism better than Clinton would. He would use the justice system to silence any rivals and potect his own from the same laws. He is about the right age to hold office in Ireland. I am not saying no one would vote for Clinton but in Ireland it would be harder to use lookalikes and with so much blood on her hands she would be seen more as a monster than chump does.
And the Irish voted for CrookedCharlie Haughey, Lyin’ Bertie, Biffo Cowen and Inda the gombeen. So no surprise that they love Hillary.
Well said val can’t understand the obsession with the clintons in this country.hitchens had Hilary’s number she’s some gowl
Neither…not that it really matters…Policy will remain the same at the decree of the people in real power who merely use the President and congress as their puppets
@Nigel O’Neill: Can you imagine what would happen is western governments refused to meet lobbyists with fat cheques.
1. Bernie Sanders (if he was still in the race) 2. Jill Stein 3. Gary Johnson 4 Hillary Clinton 5. Trump
Whatever happened to Paul Ryan? Maybe a future candidate.
Oh yeah forgot about him! He would have been high on the list for sure
The fact that you forgot about him kinda says it all about the type of empty suit Ryan is.
Anyone not named bush or clinton
You’d rather the guy that paid for both?
The Muslim Brotherhood paid internet propagandists and those they have already duped into stupididty all despise Donald Trump because it’s game over for them and their influence in the The White House and the US when he becomes POTUS.
I wanta see Donald Trump running US foreign policy not MB operative Huma Abedin -who has Hillary’s ears in all things related to the ME.Just look at the mess there now. The MB loves the chaos..
Clinton and trump are like Kang and kodos, two of the worst candidates ever.
@funkytown: Kang and Kodos means nothing. Its child’s bedroom talk out of a story book for kids. NAFTA was a disaster for the Americas, that is a fact. Tump will kill it off. Hillary calls it the gold standard. TTIP, will impose international rule on us all, the big conglomerates can sue a small business for some obscure patent infringement and it will cost 200,000 euros up front just to get a solicitor and you cannot represent yourself.
The Chinese dictatorship kills girl babies by starving them to death. Yer Hillary allows them to devalue their currency to under mine America’s trade. The women of Germany and Sweden are being raped by ISIS immigrants, Trump want to stop illegal immigration. All Trump is trying to do is restore fair play like it used to be before the green alt left grabbed control of our media
@Val Martin: Guess you’ve no idea who Kang and Kodos are..
Do you really think those big big conglomerates answer to either of these puppets?
That’s funny because I saw 2 polls on Irish pages in the states, 1 of them on Ireland central and it had Trump winning the debate by close on 75%! There is a lot of spin going on- bit like having a choice between being shot in the head or the guillotine!
Deez nutz
CNN/ORC poll is the only statistically valid poll taken so far. HRC clearly won the debate. Everything else is spin. She’s winning going away.
@Kevin Hayes: She lost the “spin” Trump works on negative marketing, I’m surprised he didn’t call her a stupid cow during the debate. After the debate he had a 70% extra spike on social media compared to hillarys 30%.
As Ryanair have demonstrated you just need to keep the media focused on you to win. You can promise to do all sorts of insane things that will never happen in reality, but it gets people talking. Even before the who thing kicked of the world knew only who Trump and Clinton were, some knew sanders.The best thing about this is its free, but people fail to understand how it works and gullibly fall for it each time. He can say we will build a city on mars by 2030 and a bridge across the atlantic. He can say that everyone both feb 29th will have their citizenship revoked..and the saps will print it I the editorials
Jill stein
Two idiots, the only way it could have got more silly is that enda kenny was in it.
@Shane Mc Grory: Shane. Do you believe Obama was right to announce the date he was withdrawing troops from Iraq? To tell the enemy when you were leaving and how you would leave. Do you agree with that type of tactic. Yes or no?
Where is Brewster and his millions when he’s needed? “None of the above”
@Diarmuid O’Connor: Hopefully hes on his way to Ireland for the next election instead :)
Jed Bartlet!!!!
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