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ON 12 FEBRUARY 2016, two weeks before the general election, Taoiseach Enda Kenny and the then-Tánaiste Joan Burton visited Cork.
During their tour of the city, they stopped by the site of the old Beamish & Crawford brewery – founded in 1792 but long since closed – and posed for photographs alongside Cork’s own Minister Simon Coveney and Mayor of Cork Chris O’Leary.
Dressed in hard hats and fluorescent vests, the group staged a ‘turning of the sod’ on the site. At one point, Enda Kenny helped to merrily chuck a pile of earth into the air.
It was a momentous occasion: a sign that, finally, the Cork Event Centre was going to get underway, due to open in 2018. The announcement was described at the time as “immense”: a site that had been empty since 2008 would be vibrant once again.
The site earmarked for the venue was the former Beamish brewery, located next to the river and almost in the shadow of St Finbarre’s Cathedral and Elizabeth Fort. Its counting house, with its Tudor-style facade, is one of the city’s most striking buildings.
But since the turning of the sod, very little visible work appears to have happened on the site. And since the end of last year, people in Cork have been asking: Just what is happening with the event centre?
It’s a story that the local media have been following in earnest – and one that had the Lord Mayor of Cork withdrawing some of the comments he made about the “appalling” delays to the project in an interview with the daily paper the Evening Echo.
The tender for the centre was won in December 2014 by the Heineken/BAM consortium (Heineken is no longer involved), who beat another tender from O’Callaghan Properties, led by the developer Owen O’Callaghan, who has since passed away. Part funding for the €150 million project was to come from the Government and Cork City Council.
In a 2010 development brief, the redevelopment of the 15,800sq m site is described as “an opportunity to create a quality new urban environment, richly informed by its important industrial and cultural heritage, while exploiting and enhancing its distinctive edge of centre location establishing important connections through the site and beyond.”
It’s clear that the centre represents an opportunity for business and tourism in Cork – but the delays have people wondering when they’ll see the building in place.
The questions around the project have grown to the extent that a parody Twitter account has been set up in the centre’s name.
More funds needed
This week, there were two new twists to the tale: BAM Contractors (which has teamed up with Live Nation for the centre), met Cork City councillors for a two-hour long, private meeting. At the meeting, BAM asked for an extra €12m in State funding for the venue. The government had already pledged €20 million in investment in the site.
A representative from BAM didn’t talk to the media after the meeting.
Then, on Saturday, it was reported that BAM Property had received planning permission to build extra student accommodation on the very same site. The Evening Echo reported that in September 2016, BAM had made submissions to reduce office and shop space on the site so that the number of student beds could be increased.
On Wednesday, the Irish Examiner reported that the new plans for the site- with it set to go from 10,000 sq m to 13,500 sq m – could mean that the developers will have to apply for new planning permission, again raising fears that the site won’t be seeing any action any time soon.
A week previously, Minister Coveney went on Red FM to allay fears about the site, saying that yes, it will be built.
“People are hurling from the ditch here,” said Coveney, “saying this is all a ball of smoke, it’s not going to happen, that the turning of the sod 12 months ago was an election stunt. None of that is true. It is going to happen. The site has been purchased, about €1 million I’d say has been spent on the site since the sod was turned last year.”
But he outlined that a meeting had had to take place in September at Cork’s City Hall, to ask one simple question: “Why isn’t this happening?”
“It became clear that the view of Live Nation in particular was that this was going to cost more than €150m to build the kind of quality facility that would be a success,” said Coveney.
Crucial stage
Speaking to people in Cork this week, it’s clear that there is some impatience with how long the project is taking to get underway – but there are strong hopes that, once it is constructed, it could finally plug a huge gap in the city’s entertainment scene.
With a projected 6,000 capacity, and use as a venue and conference centre, the Cork Event Centre could bring in big business and tourism to the city by the Lee.
Mick Finn, an independent councillor for Cork City South-Central, said the project is “at a crucial stage at this juncture”.
“It’s been going on, this particular one has been going on, since 2009,” he told TheJournal.ie. “The wait for an event centre in Cork has been going on for the guts of 20 years.”
He said that councillors were told at this week’s meeting with BAM that the internal size of the event centre has been increased from what was initially planned during the tender process.
“A number of councillors were quite angry at the fact it has gone on so long and now extra money is being sought,” said Finn. “The mood was quite positive but a bit impatient as well.”
“What the operators Live Nation are looking for is a facility that can function like the Bord Gáis Energy Theatre, 3Arena and the Convention Centre under the same roof,” he explained, which has led to extra costs.
TheJournal.ie contacted BAM for a statement but have not received one.
“BAM is seeking overall an extra €12million in central government funding,” said Finn.
After asking for €12m and €8m in local government funding. I would support the calls for that – I would think it has been a long time coming.
He believes the money is worth it, given the revenue it will generate not just for the city, but the greater Cork region.
He pointed out that this isn’t the first attempt to get an event centre up and running in Cork, and said that people have been “frustrated by the delays”.
As a local representative of the area, he’s seen it “falling into disrepair over the years”.
“I think this project is a game-changer,” he said.
But he said that regarding any future funding, “in return for that I think we need to have a definite start date and a definite time period”.
He said that the councillors were told the project would begin this September and be completed within 18 months. “Unfortunately, we have heard that before,” he said.
Lifting all boats
Finn sees the centre as having the potential to “lift all boats” in Cork.
That sentiment is echoed by Red FM DJ Stevie Grainger, who is a lynchpin of the city’s music scene since his days at the legendary Sir Henry’s nightclub.
That nightclub, now demolished, stood across the road from where the Cork Event Centre is going to be located.
“I’ve been writing about [the lack of an event centre in Cork] for 10 years and it’s a massive frustration,” said Grainger, who has watched as other city venues like the Savoy and the Pav – both former cinemas in their previous lives – closed down.
He’s helped bring numerous acts to the city, including Kanye West, and knows full well the impact a large-scale event centre could have.
“We’ve been talking about this for probably 15 years, it was a pipe dream and when we found out it was going to happen we were delighted,” he said of this latest project.
He pointed out that Cork people often travel to other cities for big gigs: “Last weekend at a big pop gig like Drake [in the 3Arena] half of Cork of a certain age group were there – they are heading away all the time. This happens all the time with sporting events and festivals.”
BAM Contractors also worked on the old Capitol Cineplex site, now being turned into retail and office space. It’s just around the corner from the Beamish & Crawford site, on the Grand Parade, and work has been going well there.
“We saw the same developers put up the Capitol site practically overnight so we know they can build,” pointed out Grainger.
For him, if people “saw something being built” on the Beamish & Crawford site, they’d feel positive about the outcome.
Aside from the big summer gigs at the Marquee, there aren’t any venues for major artists to play in Cork, and the number of middling venues has been decreasing. “It’s deeply frustrating,” said Grainger. “It’s becoming harder and harder to find gig venues.”
Pairc Uí Caoimh can attract major artists, like Bruce Springsteen, but it’s not going to be operating on the same frequency as Cork Event Centre.
“If you want these people to come to Cork you have to have a venue that’s open 12 months of the year.”
Grainger pointed out that this means the city isn’t the draw it could be for promoters:”We are off the map, even promoters are less likely to invest in other gigs at the moment.”
What’s ironic, he said, is that this isn’t a reflection of the energy on the ground when it comes to opening new ventures. “There’s an appetite in Cork; the city is buzzing, restaurants, hotels a lot of good stuff happening in the grassroots and the arts,” he said.
At the moment there’s a massive vacuum. Everyone knows the massive knock-on effect from this would be amazing.
“We do live in a situation where it is slightly a first world problem but at the same time, for Cork I think it has to happen and as long as there is a proper timeline and transparency, people will be happy.”
“We’ve been chatting about this for many years but all people want to see is a bit of transparency, see what’s happening.”
Grainger said that a major event centre wouldn’t just appeal to people from Cork city, but those in surrounding counties like Limerick and Kerry. “In Cork, people are going clubbing in Berlin and Amsterdam all the time. There is the appetite for these things.”
“I love the city and tons of people do,” said Grainger, but added that the emptiness of Patrick’s Street at night can be “embarrassing”.
Conflicting views
One person who does not welcome the appeal for more State funding is Anti Austerity Alliance councillor Fiona Ryan. At the meeting with BAM, she said she outlined “the concerns that the public have relating to the lack of transparency regarding the delays”, and said she was “quite shocked” at the response.
While she agrees with BAM about how beneficial the event centre would be to Cork city and the Exchequer, she believes that the centre should be 100% publicly owned.
“The whole approach of government, which has been to facilitate and defer to BAM at every point, must be resisted at this point,” said Ryan. “If you look internationally, event centres of this scale are publicly funded and publicly owned.”
“I’ve no confidence of giving €12m with no strings attached to Live Nation,” she said, adding:
I think obviously the thing that’s going to come to the forefront of this was the spoof of a sod turning that happened in the run-up to the general election last year which gave the impression it would be a matter of weeks before construction was built.
“From start to finish I think primarily ordinary people, the taxpayer, the people funding this enterprise have been treated with disrespect,” said Ryan.
“It was quite annoying being in the council chamber to see people falling over themselves to write a cheque for these developers.”
Conor Healy, Chief Executive of Cork Chamber of Commerce, described the centre as a “hugely important project for Cork… which will be hugely beneficial to the local economy, and it’s a very necessary piece of infrastructure for Cork”.
He described the delays as “disappointing”, saying: “I think we need to look to the future to ensure the project goes ahead. Where we are now there clearly is a shortfall in terms of funding for the project to the tune of €12m or so. I think at least we know now what the realities are in terms of the funding requirements of the project – it would have been better to know that before now.”
He added that no public funding has been provided to or spent on the project to date.
The money was earmarked by Cork County Council and “all of that is still there and it’s available to the project – none of it has been spent”, said Healy.
The chamber is “very anxious to see that funding gap is bridged”, said Healy. ”What we’ve got to work towards now is ensuring the project must go ahead.”
Blackrock Labour Local Area Representative Peter Horgan criticised the fact that the questioning of BAM was not held in public session. ”This is public money that is being requested,” said Horgan.
“The Contractors have questions to answer, either in public session by the councillors or through a press conference. Secrecy and side door exits only compound the confusion surrounding the inactivity on this project.”
The request from BAM for the extra €12m will be considered by Cork City Council, said Cllr Mick Finn.
In the meantime, no new work on the site has been publicly announced. For the people of Cork, the main priority now seems to be ensuring that the project doesn’t stall.
“It’s so close, they don’t want to see it slipping through their fingers,” said Finn.
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Do not give a private organisation public funds unless there will be some public ownership. After forking out 50 million on pairc ui caoimh, not 1% belongs to the public. Sick of this corporate welfare. Heineken where able to buy out a profitable competitor and close it down. To get its hand on the site why don’t they cough up the cash.
Heineken have sold their share of the site to BAM.
The reasoning behind the government backing it without part ownership is that everything they invest they’ll get back through indirect tax builders prsi etc.. it’s worth 17million to the economy year on year ,that’s what Coveney was saying anyway on the radio.
The real scandal here is the €30m gift that was given to Pairc ui Chaoimh / GAA which gives them an income stream for the next 40 years from matches, concerts, conference … all for promising to hold one or two rugby games, which if they do happen, the GAA will charge extortionate rent to allow happen.
and do you think if the gaa wanted to use the aviva that it would be for free
If we won the bid for the 2023 world cup , it’d be worth around 2billion to the economy. All those matches concerts and conferences would contribute big money to the local economy as well. It’s about time cork has some decent investment in infrastructure. There is literally nothing there now!!
2 billion to the economy? Maybe in the press release for the bid but I seriously doubt it contribute a tenth of that. Look at Brazil and south Africa both where fleeced for hosting the world cup with not much to show for it. Let’s build a north ring road, a few hospitals before we build things that will be used once or twice a year
That was football and they’re two countries that had to build brand new stadiums and infrastructure. We have the stadiums and infrastructure in place. It was worth over a billion to new Zealand economy in 2011, who didn’t have to build anything stadiums either, so take into account inflation, increased interest in the sport, the amount of jobs it would create, I reckon the 2billion would be accurate enough. When has Ireland built roads that weren’t funded by the eu? the orthopaedic hospital is a fine building and they shut it, the south infirmary has no a&e now and the mercy’s a&e has been scaled back tenfold so the hospitals are there they just need to be managed properly. I agree with you cork needs all those things but it also needs a decent stadium and an events centre. The events centre will be in use at least 3times a week as well to make it profitable. Live nation the company taking control have said that’s the minimum it’d take to make it profitable. If the park brings in the likes of Springsteen a handful of times a year it’s well worth it to the local economy. Improving the stadium would also bring more Munster finals and even a replay or two as well.
Get the finger out lads. Get it built. #cork needs it
It’s the worst place to build an event centre, surrounded by narrow streets and one way systems. The whole site will become a student village.
It’s a pity o Callaghan properties didn’t get it,I feel it would of being up and running a few years now,it’s actually a wind up that no construction has started yet
I think every contractor who has worked for BAM in the past has a very good notion what is going on, who is delaying it and why it’s taking so long.
@Guybrush Threepwood:
Aren’t BAM the winning contractor in the National Childrens hospital also, which has also mysteriously increased in price by €400 million.
This is pitiful. City council in cork couldn’t get a helium balloon off the ground. A city’s vibrancy depends on a venue like this, and cork sorely needs it. The population of the city has hardly grown in the last 40yrs, a terrible indictment. It’s tumbleweed barre Friday Saturday nights. This is the opportunity to energise the city midweek. City council has an innate fear of progress…Oh, so like there might be large crowds in the city centre midweek…noooo down with that sort a thing. Pathetic
Why should a event centre be funded by the tax payer ??? There are more important issues in the country that need funding !
This event centre has the potential to deliver many millions not only for the local Cork region but for the state in increased spend by event tourism,just look at the numbers the Marquee concerts attract every summer,and why not raise the extra finance needed through crowd funding or kickstarter,i and many others would support such a venture, its a no brainer.
Cant believe places like the Lobby and especially Sir Henrys went. That was a great night club! Why did they do it?? Sir Henrys was iconic. The site for this new centre is great. Stones throw from city centre and located near Finbarrs. Hope it happens.
The naievety of the press and the public on this matter is astounding.
Firstly, the site is unsuitable. Desireable but ultimately unworkable.
Take a look at the trafgic chaos at 8.45am and 5.30pm on the Grand Parade/Washington St and ask yourself how it would be possible to accommodate an extra 2000 cars – where would they all park ?
Secondly, the proposed capacity is too small. The CEO of Live Nation (then Clear Channel) told me at a meeting in 2005 that any Cork events centre would need to be from 6500 – 8000 seats to be commercially viable – otherwise it would only ever draw 2nd rate artists, or the ticket prices would be ubworkable. We subsequently saw the old Point Depot grow from 5000 to 12500 seats.
Thirdly, Joe Gavin, our ex City Manager proferred up to €8m of City Council money towards such a centre, but, as an equity investment, for a share of ownership. That was awarded to the now insolvent Howard Holdings for the site on the Marina.
Our proposal for an 8500 seat centre in the old Showgrounds site in conjunction with the Munter Agricultural Society was shot down by Joe Gavin at the deciding council meeting.
Live Nation (Clear Channel) have sonce thrown their weight behind various projects/suggestions, all of low seat numbers – why would they want to split artists runs between two venues ( with double set-up costs etc) when they could keep everything in the 3Arena with No real competition ?
South Main street is wrong – BAM look like they mainly want to biuld accommodation and get the taxpayer to pay for it. A small centre will fail and kill off the Opera House & Everyman Theatre.
The city has now given away half the Showgrounds for c€1m to the GAA (Even though they paid the Munster Agricultural Society over €11.5m for the site).
There is still one site in Cork city suitable for this centre, with access, parking and enough space for equipment delivery and storage , but the right parties with the right motovation have to be
involved or Cork will still be waiting in another 20 years and at the mercy of commercial greed and manipulation of those who monopolise this industry.
We have already been SHAFTED by the DAA and Norwegian Air and the government because they must have known of the Dublin / Shannon flights yet it was projected as Cork 1st International connection. Basically we were used as a Trojan Horse under the nose of our local politicians who seem to me to be headless or asleep.
You lost me there Tony.
@Teddyzigzagbigbag: he is talking about the Dublin airport authority which run cork airport… and its lack of flights to anywhere… again more cork people heading eastwards to travel anywhere… our city is blocked on all fronts by vested interests sadly…
Let’s not mention trying to park 2000 cars..that’s 3 people per car..on that Warren of little streets in the area.
The 12 million was allegedly earmarked for more dressing rooms and a larger crew area for sets and extra rigging, if they ever wanted to hold attract international acts like Disney on Ice etc.
To go and then apply for planning for extra student accommodation puts a new slant on the affair as this suggests the 12 million will be used not for purpose.
Either way it be benefits the developer personally.
If they want another 12million I would suggest it be as a top up of the taxpayers initial ” investment ” making the taxpayer a very healthy percentage partner. This makes it more palatable than just handing it over and being told you’ll get it back in taxation prsi and footfall over the next ” how-many ” years etc etc
The archeological dig hasn’t started properly yet so that’ll add another delay as this area was the once great South Gate to the original city.
I sincerely hope it goes ahead as it’s well needed as I’m broke from driving to Dublin for gigs.
I think there’s a long road ahead though with many more twists and turns.
On a Side note It’ll be exciting times for developing in that part of the city as BAM also have planning for a hotel and offices in the old tax office across the bridge from the ” event Centre” and there’s a new development planned for the Brooke’s building on south terrace. Busy times ahead
Heineken dumped on BAM and they are blackmailing the council because development costa in Ireland are crazy. Nothing is ever built on budget.
Build it somewhere else. Beamish & Crawford is an iconic building and should not be dwarfed by this monstrosity. It is the wrong site and I do not see why €30 million of scarce public money should be given to BAM for a project which will only create further headaches for the city. Access is woeful, parking totally inadequate. If being built at all it should be built on the outskirts of the city, somewhere close, for instance, to the Park & Ride on the Kinsale Road with free shuttle buses. Cork City Council is itself in dire straits, is not building enough social housing (despite Coveney’s media hype) and has more important priorities. It also owns its own, admittedly small concert hall and has a major role in the not-for profit Cork Opera House. The Opera House is an important part of Cork city’s cultural life yet has been struggling for years. It will almost certainly go under if the event centre goes ahead. In the 1990s politician after politician was lining up looking for public funding to be put into the Green Glen’s Arena in Millstreet,. Cork City Council also put money into Cork Swansea Ferries – twice – where are they now? This will become a bottomless pit. The last two years of wrangling and missed deadlines should serve as a warning.
There’s been nothing done with the event centre site since there was talk of the marina being back on the agenda. It’s going to become a honeypot for BAM as the government will throw money at it until it’s complete.
Harder to explain the delay when the massive shopping centre right in the centre of the city absolutely flew up.
Another point is that if they are trying to fit more student accommodation and a multi purpose venue then it is clear that there aren’t even plans at this stage for the convention centre, are they going to start throwing up walls and hope for the best.
This is going to take a load from Simon Coveney’s fighter jet money
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