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HEALTH OFFICIALS HAVE confirmed that a further three people with Covid-19 have died in this country.
It means that the number of people in this country with the coronavirus who have sadly died is 1,710.
The National Public Health Emergency Team has also said that a further eight cases of Covid-19 have been confirmed, brining the total in this country to 25,341.
Today’s data from the HPSC shows that, as of midnight on Monday, 15 June:
“The National Public Health Emergency Team will meet tomorrow to continue its review of Ireland’s ongoing response and preparedness to Covid-19,” Chief Medical Officer Dr Tony Holohan said.
“NPHETs advice in relation to rephasing of the roadmap to reopening society and business will be reviewed, in the context of ongoing suppression of the disease in the community and overall compliance with public health measures,” he said.
Dr Ronan Glynn, Deputy Chief Medical Officer, said; “Our recovery rate is at 92%. This and other indicators such as the reproductive number, hospital admissions and ICU admissions are stable or moving in the right direction. This is good news that has been achieved through the collective efforts of every person who has followed public health advice.”
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Looking like a full reopening from the 29th. Numbers are steadily low.
@Xylophobiac: what is your basis for that?
@t: speculation
@t: the very low deaths, low new cases, only around 900 active cases and its crippling our economy, is that enough for you?
@t: numbers are steadily low and not showing any major spikes since 18th of May.
It’s moving in the right direction.
Leo will have the country fully opened before he hands over the reigns to Michael Martin.
@Wheresmyjumper: so, speculation. Be great to have it opened up, all I’m saying is that no body on this forum would have any basis for arguing that it “will” be opened!
@Wheresmyjumper: I agree full opening on 29th but I am not so sure about crippling economy I think economy is just fine so far. My mate runs business car dealership and he is extremely busy past few days.
@Wheresmyjumper: recovered cases have not been updated 4 weeks test carried out in 2 weeks way below 900 active cases now
@Wheresmyjumper: way below 900 active cases now
@Wheresmyjumper: “the very low deaths, low new cases, only around 900 active cases”
Erm, how do you think we got to those numbers? Might as well stop using seat-belts and airbags too. I mean, people aren’t dying in crashes like they used to, right?
@Kem Trayle: are you a student, unemployed or public sector?
@Wheresmyjumper: No.
@Xylophobiac:
That would be a bit risky Xylo, the number of active cases is going up in a daily basis.
Nobody has recovered from virus in nearly a fortnight.
@Kem Trayle: just don’t care about jobs and children’s mental health
@artur filip: that’s because everybody wants to drive now because of fear of public transport
@Wheresmyjumper: It doesn’t matter what I think – the virus doesn’t give a cr@p how many buzz words you throw around.
@Kem Trayle: Maybe his point is that there are also other problems in the world and while it’s important to be cautious there is no reason in the world why Ireland is the slowest opening country of the EU members.
If there are local outbreaks fight them locally and have social distancing and hand sanitizer still in place just in case that Dr Holohan wasn’t right and it’s not eradicated from public transmission or just in case there is some uncontrolled outbreak.
However, closing the whole country and refusing sick people treatment, destroying the economy which is meant to pay for battle against the virus and causing other side effects is just insane.
@Kem Trayle: i’m not sure you know what a buzz word is, cause i don’t think i used any.
@Wheresmyjumper: numbers are back to where they were when we entered into lockdown. If it was a good idea to go into lockdown then well surely its a good idea to stay in lockdown
@8-Bit-Relic: I absolutely agree with further cautious opening up but there’s a lot of people on here shouting “economy, jobs, mental health, children” like Fr. Jack as if the virus is going to do a press conference saying “Sorry dudes, I didn’t think of that. My bad, I’ll back off.”
@Keaneland: till when 3 years? Good plan
@Garry Coll: There has been no updated recovery list for the last few weeks. Active cases are down.
@Kem Trayle: With the same argumentation we have heard Fr. Jack shouting “virus, lockdown…”
As I said there is NO justification for the way we are operating at the moment.
@8-Bit-Relic: Well, there is the people dying and that.
@Kem Trayle: how long should we stay in lockdown?
@Wheresmyjumper: where you getting the 900 active cases? My maths suggests its alot lower, new cases over the last 2 to 3 weeks, would that not give a better reflection?
@John Doyle: Worldometers has Ireland at 933 active cases although its been that number for a while and is probably much lower. Asymptomatic cases probably balance this out though
@thegreatdefector: there are a couple of stats on the worldometer page that isn’t updated regularly and recovered cases are one of them. Safe to say that there is a lot less active cases officially. However when you add in asymptomatic cases, the number of which we have no idea it will bring the number back up again. We are coming out of this at the right pace and speeding up things when we can. There will always be idiots like wheresmyjumper who want no restrictions at all but look what has happened in countries and states of the USA that opened too quickly. They are spiking. I will always listen to the scientists and professionals over some loud mouth in the Journal comments
@Kem Trayle: The people dying NOW of the virus have nothing to do with the inital cases. Those victims came from areas which could be isolated.
Again… there is no justification for a NATIONWIDE lockdown. That’s a huge difference.
Sincere condolences to the bereaved families. May their loved ones Rest in peace.
It’s worrying that we are still getting new cases on a daily basis .
@Mary Mc Carthy: while borders are open, we will continue to have cases every day until there is a vaccine. There’s no hiding from it especially with a lot of the country back open.
@Mary Mc Carthy: I’d imagine there’s a lot more cases out in the wild, these are just the people who have been tested.
@Mary Mc Carthy: I agree with you but I would like to know where these new cases are coming from. Is it nursing homes or health care workers or is it communities spreading still.
@Mary Mc Carthy: these are more than likely patients/staff in nursing homes/hospitals as the virus is still present obviously in healthcare settings. Tony Holohan said at a press conference a few weeks back that the virus had been extinguished from the community.
@Mary Mc Carthy: Where is it hiding, I wonder?
@Anna: Yes, I agree. Healthcare seems likely.
@Mary Mc Carthy: well I on a 41 bus out of town as I txr and there is not one seat that someone is not using not such thing as social distancing on dublin bus
@John Hazelnut: probably asymptomatic cases, people not realising that they are carrying the virus, until they pass it on to someone who does develop symptoms. All the more reason to make the wearing of masks mandatory
@Joe_X: asymptomatic transmission is extremely rare based on evidence from existing studies according to the WHO. Masks do not offer protection from coronavirus, just a false sense of security. N95 masks are the only ones that create a real barrier. Anything else is porous and does not protect from viruses. This is why Cillian de Gascun said the ‘science is not fantastic’
@Joe_X: @Anna288… Thanks for both of your replies. I am trying out masks this past 2 weeks, and I have formed the strong impression that masks would be effective if used together with very high levels of ventilation such as in a surgical operating theatre, but not really so much on buses in winter, with windows closed. I DO worry about that asymptomatic transmission, and that people seem to be becoming complacent. Thanks anyway.
@Wayne Quinn: never mind country borders, we have more to worry about with county borders. Was talking to a hospital worker who worked with infected people in portlaois hospital and came to kerry to visit family! Thanks
@Mary Mc Carthy: the R0 is less than 1 so it will decrease just not linearly. It is not particularly worrying. Look at Brazil
Rip
Rest In Peace to those who been stuck down with the Coronona virus. The only solution to beating this scourge is to continue social distancing and wearing masks in public places and when using public transport. We mustn’t become complacent as New Zealand has reported to new cases of Covid-19.
@Noel Martin: yes the mask wearing has been the main reason for the numbers dropping so much here, its just as well we listened to all the overwhelming evidence on how effective masks are. Cop yourself on Noel and hide under a bed if you’re afraid
Time to end this madness. Reopen the country now!
@mar: madness? Surely a lockdown was necessary to save lives. Don’t be so ignorant. T**t
@mar: agree, the numbers have been insignificant for the past few weeks & the economy is being crippled. Rip to all who have died but we need to get going
@Yurt: You said it… ‘WAS necessary’ but the slowest reopening of a country in the EU while talking about air bridges with countries with higher infection rates isn’t necessary
@Côte D’oherty: Yeah but the virus hasn’t changed as shown by what’s happening elsewhere. Pretending it has would just put us back at the start of March on a path to another lockdown. That won’t get the economy going whereas being careful may
@mar: maybe you it but the country is already reopening
@Yurt: mar has been on here for weeks calling for everything to open up again. He / She has always known more than the experts, right from the start. Not a conspiracy nut at all, no siree…
@Cliff Burnby: Our resident lockdown nutjob has finally re-appeared! You haven’t stalked me for at least 2 weeks. What have you been up to? Still busy denouncing the neighbours for “excessive public outings” ?
Open to correction on all of this but analysing the above;
Total cases recorded = 25,341
Recovery rate in Article per Glynn is 92% which equates to 23,314 rounded up to nearest 1
25,341 – 23,314 = 2,027 cases
Sadly remove recorded cases where fatalities have occurred;
2,027 – 1,710 = 317 active cases
Obviously there will be more cases and this will fluctuate but I would like to think with our continued personal caution we can do well and, while we must, live with the virus.
Currently 317 is .00006% of our population as being recorded active cases.
Why not give the number of recovered cases hasn’t been updated in 4 weeks and now they have stopped updating the tests carried out hiding something
@dave mc nevin: i would also like to see more numbers aswell like 8 postive today out of how many? And how many of these people are badly sick and contagious or how many are just beimg tested as they are close contact and dont even feel sick etc
@dave mc nevin: because that would go against their policy of keeping people afraid, worried and desperately believing/agreeing to all of their ‘necessary measures’.
@John Egan: Have you a magic solution?
@For Goodness Sake: Because paying people to stay at home or work at home while being extremely cautious in opening anything is very revolutionary? That’s the current solution has been from the be
@dave mc nevin: yesterday they said just over 18,000 tests carried out with a positive result in 146 cases
@Stephen: Yes the aggregated data supplied by HSE on a daily basis is utterly useless and one dimensional. Nothing on recent trends or breakdown of recent cases.
@Toon Army: amazing how the journalists dont ask these kind of questions at the conference aswell it certainly would be the 1st questions id be asking..the one time someone did ask the hard questions they cut their mic off
@For Goodness Sake: yeah the truth will set you free approach, might be a solution.
Dr Fauci finally said it today that the reason why they didn’t recommend mask wearing in the beginning was because there wasn’t enough supply, not because it isn’t effective.
The “masks do nothing” brigade can shut up now.
@Seriousnojoke: well, if Dr Fauci said it……
Public health measure?buses are,well my route is mostly over there limit and public sitting in no seat signs and some drivers still opening front door to let people off.Worrying that is.An elderly man got up and spoke to the driver who then only got up to sort the issue.
I think the vast majority if Irush people are well aware of the steps that are necessary to contain the virus and would act accordingly and act responsibly as the economy opens up.
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Good job, now let’s get drunk.
As I’ve said, let the government cave to lobbyists of tourism pubs restaurants and retail in a bid to make €€€€€ sorry, “save” jobs. IF God forbid it goes t!ts up, shame on the lotta them and may their expert “opinion” be never allowed to away future decisions again.
@Gavin Mckenna: not a lot of people agreeing with your stance. Maybe just go and isolate yourself if your scared/)vulnerable and let the rest of the country get back to making money to pay for the appeasement of the scared people in society.
Circa 600 deaths more than the expected total in Ireland since the start of the virus and if they had looked after the care homes correctly it would likely have been a lot less even.
went past a test location today. wasn’t operational. I wonder how many tests they’re actually doing on a daily basis now.
yes, it’s very bad time we are spending
That figure is actually not correct. There has been one new that unfortunately and 7 new cases. It’s nice to get it right…….
@Ian D. Ryan: I assume that it is 3 new deaths notified and 2 de-notified and 8 new cases recorded and one removed. This has been an issue of the last few weeks as data is validated and updated – in the past this has always been the case. What the media report is only a small part of the official HSE reports – https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/
3 deaths and 8 cases confirmed:
the Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC) has been notified that 3 people diagnosed with COVID-19 in Ireland have died – bringing the total deaths to 1,710
- validation of data at the HPSC has resulted in the denotification of 2 deaths. The figure of 1,710 reflects this
- 8 additional cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed
there have now been 25,341 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Ireland
- validation of data at the HPSC has resulted in the denotification of 1 confirmed case. The figure of 25,341 confirmed cases reflects this
hope this helps
@Niall Ó Cofaigh: how can this happen. Some time ago it was explained that as people move between institutions they may be recorded twice. For example if a patient count happens and a patient is transferred they can be counted twice. Also, many people in Ireland have more than one name some being simply Irish and English version – for example Mary O Regan is known as May Regan and John Sullivan is known as Sean O’Sullivan – they may also have more than one address – so actually getting reports from as many sources as possible may result in duplicate cases – corrected by data validation
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