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No plans to change current testing regime, but contact screening to be reduced in longer-term

A paper drawn up for NPHET suggested children under 13 with mild symptoms should no longer be tested.

LAST UPDATE | 13 Sep 2021

THE HSE HAS said there are no current plans to change the existing testing regime, despite an internal discussion paper suggesting those with mild symptoms may be able to forego a test. 

However, close contact testing will likely be scaled back in the future if the pandemic recedes to an epidemic.

A paper, released to a number of publications under the Freedom of Information Act, was drawn up for the National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) in July this year, but public health officials have not yet advised that these actions be taken.

The paper proposed to discourage the testing of mildly symptomatic children under the age of 13 and to remove the requirement for vaccinated adults to get a test, even if they have mild symptoms.

Speaking to RTÉ, HSE Chief Clinical Officer Dr Colm Henry said there are “no plans at the moment to change the testing regime or indications”.

“Yes, there was a discussion paper put in because we’re now examining a totally different scenario than the one we had a year ago,” he said.

A year ago we were dealing with a novel virus against which none of us had immunity and for which there was no vaccination in sight, and which presented a considerable threat to older, vulnerable people  and to the stability of healthcare systems.

He said the availability of a highly effective vaccine had given the HSE choices.

“What we’re doing now is imagining the transition from a pandemic stage to an endemic stage, where this disease is no longer considered exceptional, but part of a profile of other seasonal viruses.”

Dr Henry said changes to the testing regime would be made based on factors such as the case numbers, the positivity rate, the impact on hospitals and the impact on vulnerable groups. He said a move to an ‘endemic stage’ would mean more focused testing in outbreak settings or in people who are symptomatically ill. 

National Lead for Testing and Tracing Niamh O’Beirne said the HSE does expect there will be a change to the testing policy “in due course” when the pandemic eases.

Right now, we have the same testing capacity and the same approach as we’ve had for the last period of the pandemic, but we do know that as it changes to an endemic stage – we’re not there yet – but when that does happen, there will be a point in time where you do scale back testing because the threat from the virus has faded and it’s no longer appropriate to restrict the movements of so many people if they’re close contacts.”

Speaking to RTÉ’s Morning Ireland today, Leo Varadkar said that while he had seen reports, he has not seen advice from NPHET on the proposal.

“Speaking as a doctor, it does make sense to me,” he said. “Because of the vaccination programme Covid is now a virus we can live with.”

Varadkar said managing the virus in the future will be similar to the way in which flu has been managed and the current testing capacity will not be necessary.

The proposal paper also suggested that fully vaccinated close contacts would no longer have to be tested, a policy that has been introduced since the paper was written in July. 

In a statement, the Department of Health said the public health response to Covid-19 is kept under ongoing review, including approaches to testing, contact tracing, outbreak management, surveillance and sequencing.

“This review will inform the development of a future public health response strategy and approach for the coming months.”

NPHET is meeting today and is expected to discuss the current requirements for children who are close contacts of a positive case to isolate for 14 days. There are around 12,000 pupils absent from school as a result.

O’Beirne, speaking on the News at One, said that the HSE deals with around 1,200 students each day who are close contacts, which adds up over the course of the isolation period.

Overall, Covid-19 testing at the weekend was up by 17% compared to the previous weekend, with 30,000 people tested.

School pupils are being tested at “about three times the level of any other age group”.

“You get other viruses that circulate when children return to school and parents would like children to come forward for testing to know whether they have Covid or whether they have another virus, so that is also starting to drive the amount of testing that’s going on,” O’Beirne said.

If a school is waiting to hear the outcome of a public health risk assessment, the advice is that children should continue to attend in the interim if they do not have Covid-19 symptoms, she said.

“The level of risk is very low if the children in the classroom are asymptomatic. The important thing on the side of the parent is not stand anyone to school who’s symptomatic,” O’Beirne said.

“If the classroom doesn’t have children who have symptoms, the advice from public health is to wait until you have your public health risk assessment so that you don’t risk taking too many children out of the school day and then to work then to get them back in.”

With reporting by Lauren Boland

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    Mute Tim Jackson
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    Aug 15th 2012, 11:33 AM

    Meanwhile, the lapdog of Merkel (Enda Kenny) continues to sell Ireland’s sovereignty down the drain.

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    Aug 15th 2012, 11:45 AM

    The question is: will people continue to vote for FG? I hope not. We need change in Ireland. It’s time to vote for SF or the Socialist party.

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    Mute Jack Canon
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    Aug 15th 2012, 11:56 AM

    Rob, as much as I want to see change and the back of FG/LAB! My stomach could not hold if SF and co were to get into power. Sorry that is a step too far for my liking!!

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    Mute Kieran O'Brien
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    Aug 15th 2012, 12:01 PM

    So Jack, If its not SF then I guess the only other option is FF. Good Luck with them….

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    Aug 15th 2012, 12:08 PM

    Jack Canon wrote: “Rob, as much as I want to see change and the back of FG/LAB! My stomach could not hold if SF and co were to get into power. Sorry that is a step too far for my liking!!”

    Why?
    What is your stigma with SF?
    They represent an alternative to FG’s tax breaks to the mega-rich and a new way forward without having to pay the bondholders.

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    Aug 15th 2012, 12:13 PM

    Whether we’re in the euro or not Irish sovereignty was always an illusion. Irrespective of our break with sterling in 1979, we’ve always been beholden to Germany as the biggest economy in Europe. In a perfect world we could leave the euro and devalue a new Irish currency. Unfortunately the banks would collapse over night as personal and mortgage debt will remain denominated in euros while the new punt would be worth a fraction of a euro. It’s a loose loose for us I’m afraid.

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    Aug 15th 2012, 5:06 PM

    Maybe consider voting for individuals ideals rather than just because they are in a party you have always voted for

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    Aug 16th 2012, 5:58 AM

    I’d have no problem with the Socialist getting a bigger slice of the vote, but Rob, SF’s only priority is power, not the country. They are only a different version of FF.

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    Aug 17th 2012, 8:20 PM

    Unless the people rise up and take back the country, wipe the slate clean and start again – nothing is going to change.
    So most likely nothing is going to change.

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    Aug 15th 2012, 11:34 AM

    Greece needs more than an extension to an austerity plan, it needs a miracle at this stage.

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    Mute Tim Jackson
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    Aug 15th 2012, 11:41 AM

    And Ireland needs a write-down on our promissory note. Why can’t the politicians reward Ireland? We didn’t have a fiscal problem until we were sacrificed to save private investors.

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    Aug 15th 2012, 11:42 AM

    Or a global catastrophe, end of days event would be just as helpful

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    Aug 15th 2012, 11:52 AM

    Ireland needs some sort of write-down for it to be able to sustainably float on the stock market again. The problem at the moment is that Merkel & Co care so little about Ireland, because our economic figures in GDP are in slight growth. These people don’t see social impacts.

    If Greece manage to successfully agree an ‘extension’ to it’s economic destruction, it would help the economy in the short term, possibly bringing contraction per year down to -3% instead of -6.5%, but it wouldn’t be doing anything useful for it in the long term. It would only prolong the obvious default that needs to happen. But, of course, I’m sure that if Greece’s contraction rate fell to -3% Europe and it’s elite would celebrate their great success in ‘helping Greece’.

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    Aug 15th 2012, 12:10 PM

    “We didn’t have a fiscal problem until we were sacrificed to save private investors.”

    Well thats not really true is it?
    Look at the budget deficit even without the bank bailout costs.

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    Aug 15th 2012, 12:14 PM

    @ Gagsy 99. The point is if we didn’t have to cover the bail out costs there would have been a good chance we would not have been driven out of the bond markets. The & cost for our bonds only started to rise sharply after the bank bail out. Yes we would have need to address the budget deficit but we could have done it on our own terms rather then as directed by the Troika.

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    Aug 15th 2012, 12:25 PM

    http://www.sli-nios-fearr.com is the way to vote next time. For a better way ,to get us out of this economic disaster and move on in peace

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    Aug 15th 2012, 11:42 AM

    Not too long to go now before Greece are forced to leave this failed German sponsored EU/Euro experiment, the house of cards will start to crumble completely and we wll finally be back to some form of normality. With our own currencies, borders, and sovereignty. Bring it on…!!!

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    Aug 15th 2012, 1:15 PM

    Buy beans!!

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    Mute Kerry Blake
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    Aug 15th 2012, 1:24 PM

    Beans? Not at all follow Noonan’s advice buy feta cheese.

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    Aug 15th 2012, 2:52 PM

    Ireland is NOT broke.Far from it. Golden opportunities for employers are here up for grabs.Bad times for the working person.

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    Aug 15th 2012, 3:22 PM

    IRELAND has money but its the elite that have it and the minister for justice is a millionaire as well as other ministers having big portfollios which explains their way of treating the rich and poor

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