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Explainer: What's happening with Covid vaccine trials for children under 12?

The US may begin its rollout to younger children before the end of the year.

THIS WEEK ONE of the two vaccine manufacturers running trials to assess the safety and efficacy of a Covid-19 vaccine for children under 12 has said it expects to apply for emergency use authorisation in the US by next month.

In Ireland, Covid vaccines are not approved for use in children aged under 12 and the European regulator has not yet begun assessing data from ongoing clinical trials for this age group.

However a small number of countries are now taking steps towards immunising younger children and the US may be next. 

Vaccine trials

PFizer/BioNTech and Moderna are currently running trials to assess the safety and efficacy of their mRNA vaccines in this younger age cohort.

In February 2021, Pfizer/BioNTech began testing the vaccine on healthy children to assess the safety and immune response against Covid-19.

A reduced dosage has been given to children who participated, but it is still a two-jab vaccine.

Children aged five to 11 received a 10 microlitre (0.01 millilitre) dose of the vaccine – adults receive 30 microlitres per jab.

Some 4,500 children aged six months to 11 years were enrolled in the US, Finland, Poland and Spain at more than 90 clinical trial sites.

Pfizer has said it believes successfully vaccinating children will contribute to global protection against the disease as children under 15 account for 26% of the world’s population.

Moderna’s KidCOVE study which began in March this year involves children aged six months to less than 12 years. 

Participation lasts 14 month with phone calls, telemedicine visits and up to seven visits to study sites for children who are involved.

Children in this trial are given two injections about 28 days apart, with some receiving a placebo.

The adult dosage for each Moderna jab is 500 microlitres (0.5 millilitres). Children in the trial aged two years to less than 12 years received either 50 microlitre doses or 100 microlitre doses. 

Approval in the US

At an event last week Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said the company expects to release clinical trial data on use of the vaccine in children aged six months to five years at the end of October, but data for children aged five to 11 will come sooner.

He said the pharmaceutical company may be ready by the end of September to submit its data on the 5-11 group to the Food and Drugs Administration, which will then make a decision on granting Emergency Use Authorisation (EUA).

Emergency use is granted by the FDA on the back of two months of safety monitoring data on study participants.

Moderna this week told investors that it expects data on the 5-11 age group by the end of this year. 

When could we expect an approved vaccine for this age group in Ireland?

While some countries have been making moves towards vaccinating younger children, Ireland is awaiting approval by the European regulator – and even then it would have to be considered by the National Immunisation Advisory Committee. 

In Israel, the administration of coronavirus vaccines to children aged 5-11 has already been authorised, but only for children with serious underlying conditions that would make them vulnerable to serious Covid-19 illness. 

Just this week China’s disease control authority also said the country should consider inoculating children aged under 12 to boost its vaccine drive. 

However in most countries there has been more caution around the rollout of Covid vaccines to younger children as health authorities wait for solid clinical trial data and approval by regulatory agencies. 

Chief White House medical adviser Dr Anthony Fauci has said there is a “reasonable chance” that Covid-19 shots will be available to children under 12 by mid-to-late autumn or early winter. 

While FDA approval would signal confidence in a vaccine for use in children, it would still require approval from the European Medicines Agency (EMA) before Irish health officials would consider its use here.

The HSE’s vaccine registration portal opened for parents and guardians to register their children aged 12-15 for a Covid vaccine in early August. Within two days almost 65,000 children in that age group had been registered for a vaccine and one week later that figure had increased to 120,000 registrations.

Speaking this week to the Oireachtas Health Committee, Professor Karina Butler, Chair of the National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC), acknowledged ongoing studies, which are looking at the necessary dosage in children under 12 and whether a vaccine is even required for this age group.

She said schools had taken on board the need to keep the environment safe for children and it was fortunate that the majority of children who do acquire infection have mild symptoms. Professor Butler said this may also contribute to their overall immunity.

However she cautioned against complacency with public health measures for children.

“Our onus is to protect our children from this infection,” she said. “While most of them have a mild illness and don’t suffer consequences, there is the potential for significant illness and there is the potential for the post-Covid inflammatory syndrome that some children can have.”

Of the 30 children who were admitted to ICUs due to Covid-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, more than 20 were admitted due to the inflammatory syndrome.

“Covid is not something you want to expose your children to,” Professor Butler said.

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Apr 7th 2016, 9:50 AM

    How about a light rail service from the airport to improve Dublins connectivity….

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    Mute Wayne O'Fathaigh
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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:03 AM

    Or a bus lane form airport to port tunnel and up the quays. Airport to city in 14 minutes with more cost effective construction

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:47 AM

    Yet there are no funds to link Cork and Limerick by motorway!? This would be nearly half the cost of that project!

    The country rapidly needs a counterweight to Dublin, it is turning into London or Paris where the cost of living is multiples and the rest of the country lags behind.

    I’m from Dublin but I don’t want this country turning into a centralised city-state, linking Galway – Limerick – Cork would provide a viable region with over 600,000 people within a 1.8 hour drive… that should be our focus right now because it will help solve all other issues such as overcrowding, housing, homelessness etc Give people a viable alternative and they will move.

    Trying to cram ever more people into a smaller space is bad planning.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:51 AM

    “How about a light rail service from the airport to improve Dublins connectivity….”

    Not the luas though.. We would need it 7 days a week.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:52 AM

    Michael, you want the DAA to build a motorway from Cork to Limerick? This is a privately funded development.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:04 AM

    Hi Wayne, yeah I know it is, and you are correct! It is private but it really should be a national asset.

    I do want the government to build a motorway though! Is it 100% private or is the dept of transport chipping in? Does the government have any stake left?

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:09 AM

    Michael, the DAA is state owned and only pays dividends to one entity, the state. This development is being funded by loans and cash reserves held by the DAA. So it is an asset owned by the state, much like the ESB, but operates efficiently enough that it can raise capital and investment and repay it independently of the government

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:14 AM
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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:27 AM

    Perfect so, they should raise capital for the motorway and the DAA can finance it if it all comes from the state coffers anyway… Peter and Paul and all that.

    I thought you were going to say it is a private company in which case there’d be no hope

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:35 AM

    Or perhaps the people of cork could use the money allocated,to redevelop a GAA stadium from central government for this motorway, and not a vanity white elephant. Sure cork never gets anything.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:52 AM

    Perhaps they could.

    Bit of a non-point really Wayne, obviously only commented just so you could get in that little cheap shot against Cork.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:02 PM

    Not really Michael, you raised the non point of public funding, for a cork/Limerick project, as this project is non government funded it’s not a valid comparison. A better comparison would be the redevelopment of Pairc Ui Chaoimh which is in receipt of public funding and was seen as cork CC as a funding priority

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:07 PM

    Chris….Metro is planned to open in 2025.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:37 PM

    If there were half a dozen A330′s landing every hour, how many busses and drivers would you need to bring passengers into Dublin.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:53 PM

    Wayne, it’s a waste of time pointing out the facts, as the majority of people that comment here are moans.

    This is a good story for the country as the DAA Has confidence that the county will grow in terms of business and tourism.

    Some people are never happy (usual the people that contribute nothing)

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:14 PM

    Chris, depends on how many people are travelling direct to the city centre and plan to use public transport. Coach tours, connections to other city’s by coach, private transfers, hire cars and many variables dissipate passengers from the airport

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:28 PM

    Michael, there are numerous bus services running from thw airport, through the tunnel and up the quays then on to various regional towns, run by both Bus Eireann and privafe operators.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:37 PM

    From a cork perspective this is incredible. Since getting independence from Dublin Shannon has surged ahead of cork. Second city airports across Europe are very popular destinations. Usually the costs are lower and you have access to a decent more accessible and cheaper hinterland. Cork airport is woefully underused and the price of flights due to the levies charged by the DAA are choking the life out of it. The new terminal is large fresh and new and you have a second terminal lying idle! You couldn’t make it up. Cork has pretty much everything Dublin has but it also has an amazing coastline on its door step, a recent capital of culture, a world renowned university and its just being criminally neglected. But it’s suiting the DAA for everything to be centralised in Dublin

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:48 PM

    Wayne,you can’t even bring yourself to spell Cork properly.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:53 PM

    Well said Michael,at present Dublin contributes something like 45% of GDP when a lot of other capitals in Europe are around 10%.A serious imbalance which is very bad for a country overall.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:57 PM

    Tom,it’s a good story for Dublin.Cork airport are being strangled.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 2:21 PM

    I can’t understand why the Luas could/was not linked up to Dublin airport. When they set up a Luas in Edinburgh a few ago they had the brains to link it to the Edinburgh airport, I have use it a number of times great job.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 2:27 PM

    Nobody wants to go to Limerick on their holidays though!

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    Apr 7th 2016, 2:48 PM

    Sorry o try to manager dyslexia as well as I can but not being from
    Cork I am prone to making mistakes

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    Apr 7th 2016, 3:20 PM

    Edinburgh tram ONLY goes to the airport. The people of Edinburgh weren’t happy with it being built as they saw it as a waste of money when there was a good bus service to the city centre already. It is more expensive than the bus and takes about the same time.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 3:28 PM

    How about some direct long haul flights from Asia or south America? ?

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    Apr 7th 2016, 3:34 PM

    I wouldn’t go using the Edinburgh trams as an example we should aspire to. It cost close to £1bn and isn’t half as useful as they have planned it to be. It also takes longer to get to the CC from the airport than the bus and is more expensive!

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    Apr 7th 2016, 3:45 PM

    That is one of the reasons for building second runway. The current runways are not long enough to allow a fully fuelled long haul aircraft fly direct to Certain parts of Asia/ South America and further afield. The new runway would open up the markets that we currently cannot fly direct or non stop to!

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    Apr 7th 2016, 3:55 PM

    No it wouldn’t Wayne.

    Pairc Ui Chaoimh is not a necessary infrastructural development.

    If you are saying that simply because both will be publicly funded that they can be compared it’s ridiculous, you may as well say just take the money from schools / hospitals. Separate gov depts.

    Also County Councils don’t decide on motorways so it’s irrelevant that Cork City / County Council prioritised Pairc Ui Chaoimh as they don’t have a mandate to fund motorways in the first place.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 4:16 PM

    But if Cork CC hadn’t messed around with the route for 20 years they would have got funding long ago. They were effectively leapfrogged by the M18 because they couldn’t sort it out

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    Apr 7th 2016, 4:26 PM

    Pairc Ui Choimh isn’t a vital infrastructure project really! I for one am shocked! The point you are missing is Cork cc put a lot of effort and energy, into getting the funding for it and the development. Maybe that effort and funding, could have been better directed. You wrongly pointed out that Dublin was being prioritised over Cork, it is not it is a private project.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 9:49 AM

    Let’s see how long it takes for people to rain on this good news.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:00 AM

    Irish Water!!! LUAS Strike!!! Rabble Rabble!!!

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:26 AM

    Cork needs 2 new runways etc

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:29 AM

    Sure, I’ll oblige Larry…

    A new airport for Dublin which will inevitably greatly expand economic development and further concentrate it in an area that already cannot house, school or provide adequate health and other services for its inhabitants. And in a country where economic development is already far more biased and isolated in its Capitol city than any other comparable developed country.

    Yes, that would be exactly as carefully thought out as usually the case for Irish public policy… (that was sarcasm Larry)

    And then, there’s the question of how wise such air travel expansion is in the face of Climate Change already showing signs of being worse and more quickly than previous IPCC assesments? Eg coastal cities inundated and uninhabitable with 1 metre of sea level rise this century now a serious possibility.

    But, hey, there’s profit to be made by our elites…

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:31 AM

    *…more quickly developing than…

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:48 AM

    Well said Mike!

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:03 PM

    Cork airport is a dump with little or no activity, while Dublin is the 18th busiest airport in the eu, what does cork handle lol nothing

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:08 PM

    Lost me at “climate change”.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 2:14 PM

    Ireland has no shortage of climate changers eager to lecture to the rest of us about dangers of fossil fuels so how come no protest outside Dublin airport?

    The news today is equivalent to opening up new fossil fuel power station.

    Could it be that they need to use airplanes to lecture to others

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    Apr 7th 2016, 9:55 AM

    Great news! I’ve done a lot of traveling for work in the last few years and Dublin Airport is one of the best airports I go through. This will only make it better.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:53 AM

    I think that’s a fair comment, as airports go I find Dublin very stress free. A light rail system to the airport would be fantastic but once you arrive at the airport I have no issues with any of it.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:58 AM

    Hi Angelic, sorry I don’t mean to moan, but I do!

    Dublin is a terribly designed and not fit for purpose. I’ve been using it once a week now for over two years.

    The model of airport on the continent are one centralised building where all flights depart from and one arrivals / departures area. We now have two terminals (the second one is mostly empty) that once you go through security are linked anyway (yet they insist on people using one or the other), people walking around in pink with no people skills or foreign language skills. When you arrive into terminal 1 in particular, there isn’t one sign that says “Welcome to Ireland”. Not one Irish flag, no one photo. Nothing. The only thing there is the the little Irish flag on the back of a City Jet plane in an ad! You could be absolutely anywhere in the world, it is that indistinguishable, the tourism and airport chiefs should be ashamed, 70% arrive through this airport and we don’t even have a sign to welcome them?!

    Buses / taxis / car hire all has to be doubled up for each terminal even though they are meters apart. The arrivals in T1 is from the 70s. No train link. Parking from the stone age. No proper collections area, you have to play chicken with the Airport police at departures.

    To sum up it is pretty bad, but it is of course good news :)

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:59 AM

    It’s certainly not the worst of them in terms of infrastructure (even T1) but the staff leave a lot to be desired.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:12 AM

    I am no fan of Dublin airport but plenty of Failte signs and Irish cultural displays in both terminals, including a walkway of GAA shirts and photos. Perhaps you need to look around more when you travel

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:22 AM

    T1 there is not.

    And if you find a “Welcome to Ireland” sign please do let me know where it is.

    And I’ll be there again on Monday so I’ll look all around me!

    Every flown into Edinburgh? There’s that much Scottish stuff that you feel you are already on holiday before you’ve left the airport!

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:26 AM

    Dublin is fine. It (T1) wasn’t designed as an airport for passengers to transfer – simply a destination.
    T2 is bright, spacious – a few simple adjustment would greatly help the increasing numbers of passengers who use it as a hub to fly to North America (signposts for one ). In general, the staff are friendly, helpful, and it’s easy to get around.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:39 AM

    There is a massive Failte sign visible as you taxi towards T1 but you have never seen it? It’s been there since the 80′s

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:46 AM

    Sorry Wayne, I thought it was obvious I was referring to inside the building. In that case they also have one outside on the roundabout!

    Every other airport I go to mostly Helsinki, Stockholm, Amsterdam you are instantly let know where you are and welcomed.

    From exiting a plane at the Ryanair pier D the whole way through to arrivals, there is nothing except some photos on the back of the baggage claim wall.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:51 AM

    There is a Failte before passport control in T1 also plenty of images of Ireland and various cultural highlights in both terminals

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:56 AM

    I’d probably go as far as to say it’s the best airport in Europe I travel through…

    The staff are good too, one or two less than helpful individuals but overall miles better than I’ve encountered at a dozen other airports in Europe.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:56 AM

    So what is there between pier D and arrivals?

    Little to nothing.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:03 PM

    Plenty of Budget terminals in Europe have space decorating until you get closer to the main hub. Plenty of pictures historic and otherwise between pier D and arrivals.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:16 PM

    Michael….You say terminal 2 is “mostly empty”. You probably think that because there is so much space to move and the fact that you feel that space in terminal 2 is a tribute to the airport terminal design.
    You would do well to look at the terminal 2 facts :
    Terminal 2 capacity is 15 million passengers annually .
    Current usage 11 million annually .
    Hardly “mostly empty” Michael.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:24 PM

    You make very valid points MJ, shame so many here let their misplaced patriotism get in the way of the inconvenient facts.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:33 PM

    Maybe the Irish hospitality industy prefers to actually umake people feel welcome in tangible ways, so it doesn’t need a sign.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:54 PM

    I can’t tell you the amount of times I have turned around in an airport and returned home having not been greeted by an appropriate sign.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 4:04 PM

    Come on Phil, I’m just making a point… There’s no need to take it to an absolute extreme to try and make it look stupid… It doesn’t offer anything.

    @Wayne “Plenty of pictures historic and otherwise”? Fair enough, I guess having been through there 50 times last year I’ll need to do another fifty this year to find them because they must be hidden somewhere… I’ll take a few photos and put them up in a shared folder on Monday ;)

    Just compare it to arriving in JFK: flags, crests, pictures of the president, welcome signs, welcome announcements…

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    Apr 7th 2016, 8:58 PM

    One centralised terminal on the continent?which continent. Heathrow -five terminals , CDG 3 terminals, Frankfurt 3 terminals . If your talking about Schiphol fine but it’s only one airport.

    T2 is Dublin was packed this morning and airport has hit record numbers this year. Yes it badly needs a rail connection but otherwise a pleasure to go though

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:14 AM

    Great news, often when on final approach to Dublin you can tell the aircraft is put on a holding pattern, in fairness another thing put on hold due to the downturn, the downturn was the time to build these things, loads of building contractors with little work on it could have been built cheaper, same with roads and housing estates, and these things would be ready for the so called recovery,

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:08 AM

    Except the downturn was time we actually had the lowest surplus income to finance such projects.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:22 AM

    And the downturn was associated with a drop in passenger numbers….

    But you’re right, a downturn is the right time for the government to spend – evening out economic cycles. The counterpoint to this is that governments should save during the good times – not the giveaway policies of pretty much every party in the Dáil.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:06 AM

    Hope it will be long enough to accommodate the A380 and Dreamliner

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:10 AM

    Problem with current runway is width, and the space for wingspan of the A380. Also, taxi ways and apron space, would require bigger parking bays at terminal and reduce capacity for number of parking spots for aircraft

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:20 AM

    It already does take the Dreamliner (Ethiopian).

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:20 AM

    It can already accommodate the Dreamliner.. Thompson will be using the Dreamliner from Dublin to Mexico and Jamaica this summer.. The Thompson Dreamliner was in Dublin last summer to promote the route

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:22 AM

    Compared to the average Turbofan-powered Wide-body Commercial Passenger Plane, which can take off with 9,020 ft of runway and land with 5,900 ft, the Airbus A380-800:
    Can take off with a typical amount of runway
    Needs 900 ft less (a 15% margin)
    Compared to the average takeoff and landing field lengths for allCommercial aircraft, which are 6,500 ft and 4,309 ft respectively, the Airbus A380-800:
    Needs 2,520 ft more (a 39% margin)
    Needs 691 ft more (a 16% margin)
    The Turbofan-powered Wide-body Commercial Passenger Planes with the Shortest Takeoff Length
    Boeing 767- 200ER – 5600 ft
    Airbus A330- 200 – 7283 ft
    Ilyushin Il-96-300 – 7677 ft
    Boeing 767- 300ER – 7900 ft
    Boeing 777- 200ER – 7998 ft
    Airbus A350- 800 – 8000 ft
    Airbus A350- 900 – 8000 ft
    Airbus A350- 1000 – 8000 ft
    Airbus A330- 300 – 8202 ft
    Ilyushin Il- 86 – 8858 ft

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:53 AM

    A380 will be extinct in a few years, I hope they don’t bother chasing a while whale of a runway just to tick that box.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:56 AM

    Ethiopian airlines have a dreamliner in Dublin a few times a week. The 787 isn’t actually that big, around the same size as a 767, but much more efficient.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:27 AM

    No economic need for A380s in Dublin – planes too big for the potential market.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:20 PM

    Dreamliner and A380 are two completely different aircraft .

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:28 PM

    David…With respect , that’s for the Airlines to decide , not you .

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:05 PM

    Most casual flier are mad keen to be able to fly on an A380.But after about 2 dozen flights onboard, travelling on an A380 is a poor choice…

    The airlines have too few of them, if one has a technical problem it usually goes out of service as no replacement aircraft big enough are available and then they have to re-book/find hotels for over 500 passengers.

    If two planes are flying the route the A380 service is always the most popular, meaning the plane will be fuller… but also it fills faster from the front back. First and business seats are priced the same on both services, so more passengers choose the A380. Economy is always cheaper on the non-A380 service, it fills from the back forward. Which mean upgrades/empty middle seats are much more likely to occur.

    There are just too many people on board, business class is 8 seats in a row on some A380s.It feels like a dorm, there are bathroom queues, twice as likely to be within a seat or two of noisy children, it takes much longer to get meal service, meaning less chance to sleep. It’s a far nicer flight on the upper deck of 747 or an A340/777 with 4 seats across.

    Travelling on it really is the fools choice, especially if it’s the more expensive option.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:18 PM

    the Airlines have decided – their decision is to use smaller planes, flying directly between cities, rather than flying via large hubs. The A380 is for airports like Frankfurt, Paris, London, Dubai – 50 million passengers per year – not a small airport like Dublin. Most people would prefer to fly directly to their destination – not make a stop in Heathrow etc.

    Only a small number of carriers ever bought A380s, and sales were so bad that Airbus were considering shelving the project in 2015.
    http://fortune.com/2015/11/10/with-no-airbus-a380-sales-at-dubai-its-the-end-of-an-airliner-era/

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    Apr 7th 2016, 2:34 PM

    Emirates operate two flights a day with a Boeing 777-300, thats over 700 seats a day. Their a380′s have a capacity of around 545 seats, so the demand is there.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 3:56 PM

    Ground works are already well underway to make changes to taxi ways because one of the middle eastern carriers wish to fly the A380 in and out of Dublin.

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    Apr 8th 2016, 8:43 PM

    I’ve flown the BA A380 a few times and I haven’t found any of the issues that you talk about Drew, though it sounds like you’ve flown it a few more times than I have. There are more bathrooms and more stewards/stewardesses to accommodate the large numbers. I didn’t experience a diminished service compared to a BA 747 flight for example. Quite the opposite actually. The better noise reduction, cabin lighting and cabin pressure systems reduced a lot of the travel related tiredness. I had a similar experience with the Dreamliner. The more modern cabins are a more pleasant experience. My only gripe about the BA Dreamliner that there was one seat too many in economy with 9 across (3-3-3). It was a little tight. 8 across would be nice for the passengers (2-4-2), but as we all know, it’s about bums on seats for the airlines….

    David saying that the A380 is somewhat of a lame-duck isn’t really true. Certain airlines are taking the large aircraft and hub approach whereas others are adopting the point-to-point with smaller aircraft approach. Both are valid, and the mix allows a lot more options for the consumer.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:29 AM

    Great news. I wonder is this going to be Heathrow’s extra runway if you know what I mean?

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    Apr 7th 2016, 3:38 PM

    I have no doubt! Me think EI will be mirroring BA routes!

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    Apr 7th 2016, 9:53 AM

    The airport will invest 320 Euro into the project? Wow, what a bargain.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:08 PM

    Pointing out a typo. Wow. I bet you’re fun at parties.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:09 PM

    Hopefully this will help in attracting flights to more destinations, I’d really like to be able to fly straight from Asia to Dublin.

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    Apr 8th 2016, 12:49 PM

    That’s only if DAA decide to make this new runway A380 and B747 compatible and adapt a few of the gates in T2 to handle these larger aircraft.

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    Apr 8th 2016, 8:50 PM

    747 can land at Dublin no problem and you see them every so often, though mostly cargo (Singapore & Air France Cargo I have seen there the odd time in the past few years)… Sure Aer Lingus were one of the original operators of the 747…

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    Apr 8th 2016, 9:40 PM

    Oh yeah I forgot about that, really wish we had the capabilities of handling an A380 at the gates though, Dublin-Singapore direct would be great, especially for people traveling onward to Australia

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:15 AM

    Good news for Dublin Airport but when are the DAA going to leave go of the stranglehold they have on Cork Airport and allow them to compete with the other two airports on an even basis.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:24 PM

    Derek….Dublin Airport passenger figures …25 million in 2015.
    Cork Airport passenger figures ……2.4 million in 2015.
    Do you really want Cork to compete on its own …??

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    Apr 7th 2016, 9:59 PM

    You’re missing the point Michael, Cork Airport believe they are being hamstrung by DAA and if cut loose can grow numbers just as Shannon did after been released.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:26 PM

    Cian..I understand the point.
    However, Shannon, after 17% increase has passenger figures of 1.7 million for 2015.
    Cork had growth of less than 3% in 2015, yet it has Passenger figures of 2.4 million for 2015.
    There’s a lot of rte driven propaganda about Shannon.
    Cork has stronger passenger figures than Shannon.
    Norwegian want to fly Cork to Boston and New York.Tge DAA are the ones who pushed this

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:33 AM

    Delighted for Dublin and from what I know this is badly needed.

    Perhaps when they finish it, the DAA can finally close Cork Airport. The “we won’t run it and nobody else will either” charade is getting old, lads.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 9:58 AM

    If there’s any old bit of tar left bring it to Cork and let us build a new runway..

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:29 AM

    Yes when tourists start flying to Cork in large numbers. Dublin in itself is a destination. Why fly to Cork if you are coming to see Dublin. Do you fly to Nice when visiting Paris ?

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:41 AM

    Why fly to Dublin if you’re going to West Cork or Kerry? Why not just run all transatlantic flights through Shannon?

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:45 AM

    You do if you’re flying Ryanair.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:11 AM

    I’m just going to put this out there: infrastructure investment outside of Dublin?

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:16 AM

    Dónal you mean like the 15 million spent on runways in Cleggan and Inisboffin that have never been used, and are now overgrown, like it or not nearly half the country’s population lives within an hour of county Dublin and City

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:21 AM

    There’s no investment by the government or anyone else. The airport are paying for this themselves through a loan funded by landing charges and rent from the shops inside the airport.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:24 AM

    Not allowed Donal. We must as a nation build Dublin up until there is not a patch of grass left in the little county

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:18 AM

    I am suggesting maybe that priority should be changed! I understand in this instance this is an investment by the airport themselves. I am simply pointing out that Dublin soaks up a disproportionately high amount of our countries resources:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_areas_in_the_European_Union_by_GDP

    Maybe the government (if we ever get one) should de-centralise the country. All roads needn’t lead to Dublin.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:32 AM

    Donal if you are going to Madraid for a weekend would you fly into Cork or Shannon ?. Fact is people come to Dublin.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:38 AM

    Yes, Dublin has a fantastic tourist trade. Maybe if the rest of the country was as easily accessible that might change?

    If Cork or Shannon were cheaper to fly into than Dublin, maybe the south and west would see more tourists too?

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:57 AM

    “I am simply pointing out that Dublin soaks up a disproportionately high amount of our countries resources”

    That’s because over a million people live there. The reality is that, per capita, Dubliners subsidise the rest of the country, not the other way around. Building infrastructure to connect the sparsely populated countryside is far less cost effective than building infrastructure in Dublin. And Dubliners have to pay a lot more to live nearby this infrastructure. Some people living in the country seem to want their big, cheap houses but all the benefits of a city too.

    And I don’t buy the de-centralisation argument or the suggestion that companies choose Dublin because of the higher levels of infrastructure. It plays a role but urbanisation is a pattern seen all over the globe and the more we move to service industries the more this will continue.

    And anyway, you linked to the GDP of the Dublin area, not how much “resources is soaks up”

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:08 PM

    My point is that continued investment in *one* city alone is not sustainable for an entire country. What do you suggest, the entire populace commute to Dublin?

    “Dubliners subsidise the rest of the country”.. how? is there a special Dubliner tax?

    “sparsely populated countryside”
    Cork City: 119,000 People
    Limerick City: 95000 People
    Galway City: 75000 People.
    Sorry, I forgot, the country ends at the M50.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:21 PM

    Donal Limerick to Cork M20 projected cost 800 million. Now look at you population figures you posted again and justify that spend as value for money.

    Country does not end at the M50 but the requirement for large infrastructure projects for less densely populated areas is limited. The attitude of Dublin has so we should have is silly. Better to focus on actual needs than keeping up with the joneses

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:28 PM

    The point i am trying to make (maybe I am not being clear) is that the entire country needs to be looked at in combination. A Dublin-centric model is a one way road to people commuting two to three hours a day.

    De-centralisation would help negate this.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:36 PM

    Wayne, M20 is a terrible example of something “not value for money”.

    You might have an argument elsewhere, but the M20 is probably THE single most important piece of infrastructure not being built in this country. It would enable the Southwest and West regions to compete with the East. It would alleviate the very congested East. It would stop you from thinking “Dublin is subsidising the whole rest of the country” (it isn’t, though it does contribute far more than its fair share).

    The whole country needs an economic counterweight to Dublin. Dublin needs that too. The M20 would be the single piece of infrastructure needed to enable that. It’d be cheap at 800million, if anything. And it wouldn’t be a one-off 800million spend, it’d be an 800million spend over 30 years.

    Bad example there, I think.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:47 PM

    269,000 people spread out over 3 cities and 200 kilometres is not a lot of people.

    A preliminary Google search to back up my point that workers living in Dublin fund the rest of the country:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/consumer/dubliners-get-up-to-50-times-less-funding-than-rural-dwellers-1.1730130

    If the DAA needs or wants to spend their own money upgrading their airport that handles 25 million passengers versus the country’s second busiest which handles 2 million, I have no issue with that.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:21 PM

    Yesterday’s Jam, the cost of upgrading an existing rail link between cork and Limerick and ancillary public transport would be half of the cost of the M20 and provide similar benefits! But sure we want a motorway because the big smoke has one

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:38 PM

    Wayne, the combined population of Limerick and Cork counties is 700,000. You realize it will be passing right through the middle of both. Throw in the populations of Clare, Galway, and Tipperary who will also get use out of it, and you’ve got a population of 1.2 million.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 2:27 PM

    Thanks James. Added to that that freight movements rarely happen by rail nowadays: the motorway is needed to transport goods to/between the various companies and the ports/airports.

    Wayne, this isn’t a personal attack at all, you’ve just chosen a poor example to make your point on this one. It’s not a case of “because Dublin has…”: M20 as a project stands up to scrutiny in terms of being a value-for-money project. If you really don’t agree with this, I strongly urge you to check out the GDP/GDP Per Capita/Population numbers for the Cork/Limerick region. It’s the only rational economic counterweight we have to the Dublin region. The M20 is the missing piece in the jigsaw that allows this to happen.

    As an extra bit of background info, I don’t use this route now, but have worked in large companies in Dublin, Cork and Limerick and travelled the N20 a lot in the past. It’s one piece of infrastructure that is screaming out to be done. I’m shocked that anybody would be against it.

    Anyway back to the Dublin Airport second runway: hope there’s no delays in delivering this on time.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 2:34 PM

    @Carl Nolan

    No argument with the DAA’s money Carl, but workers living in Dublin don’t fund the rest of the country.

    They, along with workers in the other urban areas do. Cork, Limerick and Galway are not money-sinks and contribute more than their fair share. Cork/Limerick GDP per capita isn’t as high as Dublin’s (and may never be) but they contribute to “the rest of the country” in the same way Dublin does. “Rural” does not include Cork and Limerick metro areas.

    Whoever told you there are 269,000 people in Cork Limerick and Galway spun you a yarn, also, there are more than that in the Cork metropolitan area alone.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 4:05 PM

    That’s just the inner Cork city population, cork Metro is another 320,000 on to that. This is why there is such uproar over dividing lines

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    Apr 7th 2016, 4:07 PM

    Excellent point Jam!!!

    Well said :D

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    Apr 7th 2016, 5:47 PM

    I was adding up the figures Donal gave to point out that it actually wasn’t that much. I wasn’t saying it was the population of that entire region.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 9:15 PM

    Donal, reality is Dublin is a tiny city in the world and Europe. A city needs to have critical mass and Dublin is really too small. And yes Dubliners do subsidise the rest of the country just like other large cities do

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    Apr 7th 2016, 9:50 AM

    €100k per metre!?

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    Apr 7th 2016, 9:54 AM

    Serious construction, required to meet standards, than their is the requirement for added maintenance equipment, and runway vehicles, also added extra infrastructure, signage, lighting communications equipment.

    Not like they just have to lay some Tarmac

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    Apr 7th 2016, 9:58 AM

    Think how wide a runway needs to be. It also needs to be incredibly strong. It’s not like it’s just two inches of tarmac on top of the earth. There’s a serious amount of engineering to it. Also, compare this cost to the figures in the UK for a new Heathrow runway.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:10 AM

    1 metre by whatever it is across, maybe 100 metres? That’s 1000 euro per square metre, sure some home flooring costs nearly that ;)

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:16 AM

    Just thinking 100 metres is probably overshooting the runway so to speak, maybe 40 metres would be more accurate.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:24 AM

    40 metres is understating it, they’re about 60 metres wide

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:38 AM

    Yeah but each meter long is 30 meters wide. Give ot take.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:01 PM

    Heathrow has massive acquisition costs for land that’s mostly developed and has people’s homes on it that Dublin doesn’t.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:58 PM

    45 metres is standard width

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:20 PM

    More than just a runway DH, that will be the least expensive of three proposals after a new terminal and business park.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:21 PM

    Thanks for the clarification Jim.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 4:30 PM

    Just checked the one in Stansted on google earth, it’s 65m. You learn something new everyday. It doesn’t look that.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:21 AM

    Proper order. Britain’s Heathrow kerfuffle is our gain. If the Brits leave Europe, then we stand ready to take their EU business. If not, then the busiest air rouet in Europe is getting an upgrade.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 9:48 AM

    That’s expensive boss!

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:02 AM

    It’s cheap at 320 did you see the quotes for Heathrow extra runway its billions, this can only be good news for Ireland.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:15 AM

    It’s a scandalous waste of money. They would be far better utilising the infrastructure that they have in an efficient manner than spending all this money. All they have to do is look at Gatwick….the busiest single runway airport in the world. They handled 733 aircraft movements per day in 2015 compared to Dublin’s 524 per day. Gatwick get 30 take offs or landings per hour compared to Dublin’s 21….and the primary reason for Dublin’s low figure is ancient work practices! A new runway at Dublin is most certainly not needed at this time.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:31 AM

    Sorry Jim but Gatwick has parallel runways. Perhaps you meant Stanstead?

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:34 AM

    No I don’t mean Stansted. You are correct though, Gatwick does have parallel runways but due to the distance between them only one can be used at a time…the northern parallel runway is only ever allowed to be used when there is work being carried out on 08R/26L.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:06 PM

    Jim…
    1…The main East/West runway is “at capacity during peak times” according to the DAA.. Therefore it is impossible for the airport to accomodate new flights during those hours without a new runway .
    2..The main reason a new runway is required is to accomodate A380 take offs which the existing east/west runway at 2900 cannot do.
    Yes it is needed.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:34 PM

    ‘According to the DAA’….says it all really. Gatwick is also at capacity at peak times but they have a greater utilisation of the runway. (In other words they get 9 more movements per hour than Dublin does….nobody actually stops to ask the question why this is?) You go on to say it’s to accommodate the A380. First of all how many A380′s do you think Dublin is realistically going to handle on any given day? Manchester with a population of 2.55 million people currently handles two…and the order book isn’t exactly full. Airbus have had a grand total of two A380′s ordered for the whole of 2015! A simple 300 metre extension would solve that problem…that’s what Birmingham airport has recently done. I have no issue with a new runway….but like everything at Dublin Airport it’s not being thought out properly ( bit like T2 built in the wrong place which creates massive bottlenecks every day…departing aircraft cant get from the gate and arriving aircraft cant get in). By all means build the runway….but at least use the one you already have in a more efficient manner….it’s a bit like Irish Rail, instead of running a ten minute dart on the line that they already have, deciding to build a whole new line!

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:41 PM

    No good news for Dublin

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:05 PM

    Jim, have a look at flight radar 24 and see the holding patterns being flown over gatwick at peak times. They’re a regular occurrence. Gatwick regularly operates overcapacity. It’s a disaster waiting to happen. And at least there, if anything goes wrong, there are a heap of alternative runways within 100 miles. Here, there just aren’t. Also, Manchester isn’t a perfect comparison. It is two hours by rail from London and half an hour flying. There are plenty of connecting passengers from there who go to London to fly long haul. Dublin is perfectly positioned to operate a long haul trans Atlantic hub with additional capacity but a new runway is needed for that.

    Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 2:40 PM

    Jim..i don’t know the population of Manchester, however I take your word on that. Greater Dublin has a population of 1.8 million. But it’s not just about the local population. Dublin is the fifth largest transatlantic hub airport in Europe. It had a passenger figure last year of 25 million. That’s bigger than Manchester airport. If Dublin is to continue growing as a hub airport it needs to invest in facilities. Otherwise it will just stand still.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 3:44 PM

    Michael, my point is either being missed or overlooked here. I am not anti runway…far from it. My issue is with the fact that the current infrastructure is not being utilised to it’s full potential. Everybody is saying this is a great thing for Dublin…and I have no doubt that in the long term it is a viable proposal. However, if people took the time to look at the planning permission that has been granted they would see that one of the conditions in the planning approval places severe constraints on the use of the runway between 2300 and 0700 (to appease the local residents). As a result there will be severe curtailment on the use of the runway at the time the DAA says it is most needed…they classify the peak time as 0600 to 0730. So they are effectively proposing to build a runway to alleviate capacity issues at their own stated peak times whilst the planning permission won’t allow them to use it!

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    Apr 7th 2016, 9:57 AM

    Meanwhile patchy rain and pot holes will persist for 99% of the country

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:25 AM

    So, you expect Dublin Airport to maintain the roads all over the country?

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:28 AM

    You want the government to fix the rain?

    I mean, I wouldn’t put it past some to promise it, but it might be a big ask.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:35 AM

    As I always said myself, it’d be a great little country if we could only roof it.

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    Mute Carl Nolan
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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:00 PM

    Because:

    * DAA fixes potholes
    * Dublin roads are in great condition

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    Apr 7th 2016, 9:58 AM

    Is there a compensation fund for people whose lives will suffer untold disruption as a result of the increased air traffic from the new runway?
    I certainly hope so.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:01 AM

    Cal, I live 400 meters from the current runway and on flight path, I welcome the new runway and the investment it brings. No need to compensate me

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:06 AM
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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:18 AM

    :-)

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:23 AM

    I lived directly under the 16/34 flightpath for years and never suffered “untold disruption”. Granted it’s not used as much as 10/28 but maybe it’s untold because it doesn’t exist?

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:32 AM

    Planes much quieter now than they used to be – so less noise pollution. The newer Airbus & Boeings will be even quieter (and efficient).

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:04 PM

    Wayne, that’s the spirit, you knew what you got into when you decided to live there and you are seeing the bigger picture. Well said.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:16 PM

    Juan my wife’s family were there before the airport ha ha!

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    Apr 7th 2016, 3:42 PM

    I live what will be within 1.5KM of the threshold almost directly under the approach path of the new runway!

    And I’m Feckin delighted it’s getting built!

    It’ll be great for the local area, it will provide lots of opportunity and finally we see some sort of infrastructure here get sorted

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:43 PM

    Cork & Limerick need a motorway

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:06 AM

    Forgive me but, where is it going, the article says north, it that Swords or are they building over St. Margaret’s?

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:22 AM

    Directly north of the existing runway, nowhere near Swords. Look for Pickardstown on Google Maps.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:50 AM

    Thanks Mark

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    Apr 7th 2016, 9:52 AM

    You’re a day late and a dollar short there, my good man.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:28 AM

    Great to see Dublin get new runways and hundreds of new jobs on a weekly basis.but with about the rest of the country

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:34 AM

    Yes but the other airports are not busy enough. Do you suggest sending people who want to travel to Dublin to Cork ?

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:00 PM

    Theres plenty perople who want to travel to Cork and Shannon who have to go through Dublin. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:02 PM

    Yes, we should have mandatory airport quotas. 1 in 3 passengers have to trek out to Shannon and Cork just for a sense of “fairness”. People vote with their feet.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:06 PM

    Dick see above about 2 runways built in the west of Ireland and never used

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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:57 PM

    As a regular user of Cork airport for work, all I’d like to see is an early morning flight to Dublin, and a late flight home.

    I currently have connectivity through London, Amsterdam and to a lesser extent Charles de Gaulles. However, the connections are often pants:
    - To connect through London can mean a full day out or a midnight or later arrival in a european airport
    - To connect through AMS with KLM is usually sold with a 40 minute layover involving a sprint to passport control and a sprint for the plane

    There are a wealth of morning flights from Dublin I could use via a 6am flight out and a 10pm flight home.

    I have no major issue with Dublin being developed as the hub, just give me a connecting flight

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    Apr 7th 2016, 6:33 PM

    M20 needs to be built to connect Cork with Limerick/Galway and further north.Equally badly needed is the A5 through the north to Donegal/Derry -it’s a dangerous disgrace. We need to counterweight the crazy congestion that Dublin is suffering.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 6:55 PM

    Dublin gets everything.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 9:58 AM

    Ah where was this this news when iPhone Joan needed it? But still, without the infrastructure to support it whats the point?

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    Apr 7th 2016, 2:19 PM

    The media completely endorse this new project to increase fossil fuels emissions which will bring 7000 jobs but then lecture to us everyday about need to cut down on emissions.

    Totally hypocritical

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    Mute Tony Hartigan
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    Apr 7th 2016, 12:40 PM

    And they could not produce a motorway between Cork & Limerick because of costs. This on a road where there are accidents on a daily basis some fatal.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 1:37 PM

    So it’s gonna cost almost €103,000 per metre??? That just sounds insane… Someone is getting a big fat Brown envelope somewhere for this…

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:38 PM

    That is an amazing figure. It’s incredible when you think of it like that.

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    Mute Derek Hughes
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    Apr 7th 2016, 4:54 PM

    And the rights of the people living in the area will be ignored and stamped upon as this project goes ahead. I for one will be opposing the development. The runway is not needed. We have enough jets shedding their gases and fumes on us as they take off.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 5:53 PM

    I live in the area. I’ll be almost underneath the approach path barely 1K from the airport. And I’m all for it!

    Fantastic for the local economy and the country as a whole. It will allow Dublin and its base carriers expand and compete as a hub against the other major EUropean hubs!

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    Mute Justin McDonald
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    Apr 7th 2016, 7:53 PM

    Seriously, how on earth does a basically a 3 km straight road cost €320 million!!! Maybe they should get a second quote !!

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    Apr 8th 2016, 12:47 AM

    I’d love to see the day where there’s no construction work been done at the airport

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:46 AM

    People of St Margrets wont be happy

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:30 AM

    Or the patrons on The Boot Inn

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    Apr 7th 2016, 4:52 PM

    Finally!

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    Apr 7th 2016, 11:51 AM

    Michael O Leary offered to build the new terminal for that kind of money

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:20 AM

    I know a fella called John Joe that will do it chayper Bass!

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    Apr 7th 2016, 5:57 PM

    Given that the land and the space is there, I hope it goes ahead without a hitch. It’s not like they’ll be looking to demolish entire towns to make way for it like Heathrow.

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:07 AM

    I know a fella called John Joe that will do it for less, Bassssss!

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    Apr 7th 2016, 10:13 AM

    I know a fella called John Joe that will do it a lot chayper ,Basss!

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