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ELIGIBLE HOUSEHOLDERS IN the vicinity of Dublin airport are in line for a €20,000 grant to insulate their homes from night time air traffic noise at Dublin airport.
The requirement on airport operator, Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) to provide the €20,000 grant to eligible households is one of a number of conditions attached to a Fingal County Council planning decision to have operating restrictions on the airport’s new €320 million runway lifted.
The new runway is due to open to commercial air traffic next Wednesday, 24 August.
In its decision, the local authority has amended two planning conditions attached to the 2007 planning permission for the runway.
Ahead of the runway becoming operational, DAA was seeking amendments to the runway’s 2007 planning permission that will allow the 3.1km runway be used between 6am and midnight and that a noise quota system would be used to dictate the number of night-time flights at the airport.
The 2007 planning permission in place curtails flights between 11pm and 7am. The airport operator has now succeeded on both fronts with the Fingal County Council decision.
As part of its 245 page planner’s report into the case, Fingal County Council concluded that the application “would further safeguard the role of Dublin Airport and the long term amenity of residents in the area”.
A spokesman for DAA said today that it welcomed the decision by Fingal County Council to amend and replace two conditions associated with the planning permission for Dublin Airport’s North Runway.
He said that the Council’s determination “provides for the limited extended use of the new runway at key late-evening and early-morning busy periods and includes a generous insulation grant scheme for eligible local residential properties”.
He said: “It also provides for the replacement of a night-time aircraft movement cap with a more considered noise management quota system that encourages the use of quieter aircraft, an industry-standard approach for managing aircraft noise at large international airports around the world.”
He added: “This will be complemented by further noise mitigation and enhanced monitoring measures. The planning decision helps provide the operational flexibility required by Dublin Airport to enable the regrowth and development of international connectivity at Ireland’s main gateway.”
The spokesman said: “North Runway is a significant milestone for the Irish economy, the local economy, for Dublin Airport and its customers. It will enhance Ireland’s connectivity as a gateway between Europe and North America and will support the creation of 31,200 new Irish jobs and €2.2 billion in additional economic activity by 2043”
The lifting of the restrictions will be put on hold, if, as expected the decision is appealed to An Bord Pleanála by north Dublin residents.
The application attracted scores of objections from the north Dublin area.
In an objection against DAA’s plan, the Minister for Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth and Dublin West TD, Roderic O’Gorman (Green) branded as “unacceptable” the noise levels that local residents will be faced with if the planning restrictions are lifted.
However, the airline industry threw its weight in support of the plans with 15 carriers including Dublin airport’s two main customers, Ryanair and Aer
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I lived in Finglas and when you were up early on a clear morning you could hear the engines from the runway, the most beautiful sound in the world. Living in Navan now and you get the transatlantic flights coming in for early morning arrivals, sometimes you hear them. But I’d pick that noise over annoying teenagers and barking dogs any time of the day!
@Fi Wyse: Yes, that was the old flight path of runway 24 (or 06/24), replaced by Runway 10/28 in 1989. My house would rattle when the noisy L1011s and Tristars flew over, I miss the planes.
Found this webpage that has old US military maps of Dublin airport, showing runway 24:
https://konbriefing.com/mad/approach-charts/ie-republic-of-ireland/dublin-airport.html
Also, just found this interesting website that shows a live map of planes landing and taking off and Dublin Airport, and the sound levels from monitoring sites:
@Fi Wyse: Very clever Fingalcoco. I see eligibility map requires applicants to have their house on the grounds of the airport…..
@David Jordan: Oh that’s a pretty cool map! I dunno after a while the sounds just blend into the background. I can hear the Tara Mines train from my house as well. And the lads diffing in the retail park. Planes Trains and Automobiles!
@easilyfrustrateddad: map shows new scheme and old scheme….. One would assume those dwellings you say that are inside the grounds of the airport are from the legacy scheme and dont exist anymore
@Fi Wyse: I thought the L1011 and Tristar were the same aircraft?
@Stephen Hayden: You’re right. He probably meant to say DC-10s and Lockheed TriStars (aka L1011s).
@Fi Wyse: I am from Wg=hiteha and they used to fy in over us efire the old new runway was open and we had the nunber 3 rolling ast the door, I I went on holiday and it was too quite and I could not sleep LOL
@David Jordan: Or the 707s 0r 727s b9th noisey aqs hell, But Ryanair nd there Romania 1-11s with no siencers the were the worst. i could tell the aircraft by the noise it made.Not forgwttinfg the Trident. All the triengine aircraft were very loud
I am sure it will be a sound investment
@Stephen East: Well played :D
I don’t know who concluded that a “€20,000 grant to insulate their homes from night time air traffic noise” will actually insulate their homes from night time air traffic noise. But it won’t. Unless you have a room within a room effect. i.e. the whole house built like a professional recording studio it won’t work. But on the other hand if it’s just a sweetener to get the project done, then it’ll probably work.
@Fr. Fintan Stack: course it is.. like everything they are just looking for a pay out.
@Fr. Fintan Stack: na I have a full grade A insulated house with proper noise isolation windows and when windows are closed you can’t hear anything during the day at night it’s barley noticeable but when windows are open you can’t hear the tv when the planes cross. Summertime its every 60 seconds.
The grant for sure will help for people with older houses…
Yet another group who bought houses with problems and tax payers money paying for their short sightedness.
@Carl Hale: So much wrong with that statement! The DAA is semi state for profit company and self funded. It receives no state funding for day to day business, except obviously during the pandemic….. So no its not taxpayers money paying for it. The government will receive less of a dividend from the DAA as this will reduce their revenues/profit if anything.
@Carl Hale: bought houses with problems ? They knew the airport was there when they moved in.. it hardly sprung up overnight… caveat emptor.
@Ciaran: but the new runway wasn’t there any more than metro!
@Ciaran: agree buy a house near airport and complain about the noise, genius
I’m really looking forward to the first flight that takes off and lands on 28R.
For a airport that handles almost 35 million passengers a year the current Runway is 28L/10R is amazingly short.
I’d get a 200euro set of noise canceling headphones and 18,800e of coal !
I live in Dublin 15. From very early morning to sometimes late at night, plane engine noise is constant and when windows are open during summer causes even more disturbance. I hope the new runway improves things
@Patricia Cautley: what do you expect it’s a airport. The Airport was there before you and it will be there when you leave.
@Patricia Cautley: Who would have thought that opening the windows would lead to more noise getting into the house!
@Patricia Cautley: the gulls are louder and more annoying.
@Patricia Cautley: Thats because al the rest of the background noise is gone.
Lots of planes flying low over Meath and North Kildare recently, way lower then pre-pandemic. Any chance of a few quid for the Meath and Kildare houses under the flight paths. Also can they tell American Airlines to get rid of their noisy as hell old planes.
Why build a house so close to the airport and then complain about noise from planes…
They cannot manage what they already have!
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