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THE 32ND DÁIL has been suspended for the first time as a row erupted between Anti-Austerity Alliance/People Before Profit TDs and the Ceann Comhairle.
The argey bargey came as opposition TDs complained that Fempi (Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest) legislation was being extended without a vote.
The government was accused of using ‘old politics’ to bulldoze through legislation without opportunity for discussion or debate.
Discussing the proposed extension to Fempi laws, the AAA/PBP’s Mick Barry said it was “somewhat strange that financial emergency legislation is being renewed at a time when there is not a financial emergency in the State”.
His party argued for a debate and vote to be held in the Dáil before the legislation is extended before ripping up a copy of the laws.
“Do you not feel that there is a serious issue looming here?” he asked Minister Richard Bruton. “You couldn’t face down the water charge protest? You weren’t strong enough to face down the bin charge protest.”
This is the Fempi legislation here. What makes you think you’ll be strong enough to face down organised workers, organised trade unionists, sections of the organised working class movement in this country when so many people in this country feel this legislation should be ripped up?
At this point Ceann Comhairle Seán Ó Fearghaíl asked the deputy asked him to conclude and resume his seat, warning him that he was ”completely out of order”.
“This is not the time or the place for this debate,” he added, noting he was taking time from other deputies.
Matters seemed to calm down – but only for less than a minute.
As Bruton responded to Barry – to promise that Fempi would be unwound in a balanced manner – Ó Fearghaíl could be heard disciplining somebody else.
This time, it was AAA/PBP’s Bríd Smith who was being told she was “not in order”.
“Deputy Smith, you are not in order. This is not a TV studio,” the Ceann Comhairle said as he rose out of his seat – and she ripped up the second copy of Fempi.
Please restrain yourself. Please, please deputy. Please, I implore you to please restrain yourself.
“You can tear up all you like but please resume your seat,” he concluded.
As the Ceann Comhairle resumed his own seat, jeers of “Sit down and grow up” could be heard in the Chamber.
Eventually – after another intervention from Sinn Féin’s David Cullinane – the Dáil was suspended for five minutes to allow for the deputies dust themselves off.
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Glad I don’t know anything about utorrent, vpn and peer blocker.
@B9xiRspG: I also don’t know what Usenet is, it might be safer than torrents but I don’t know anything.
@purple rain: I don’t know what a tracker mortgage is.
@Drew P. Baulsach: neither do the banks
@Ian Shannon: brilliant comment.
@Drew P. Baulsach: brilliant
Stop ripping people off and they won’t pirate. Simple.
Greatest things that have encouraged people not to pirate have been Netflix and Spotify. All they had to do was provide entertainment for a reasonable amount instead of at an absurd mark up and suddenly people were more than happy to pay for it.
Meanwhile I’m gonna continue my practice of paying for stuff that’s reasonably priced but streaming stuff I’d never switch to Sky (and have to buy a satellite dish for) in a million years coz they hold it ransom on Atlantic.
Also; who in the ever-loving still downloads. Stream away!!!
@Bryan Kelly:
download a movie and in two years time buy the dvd for 3 euro……..conscience sorted.
@Bryan Kelly: You could add Steam for gaming to that list as well. There is certainly a point of price and convenience where most people will pay rather than torrent.
@Bryan Kelly: Don’t know why anyone would stream tbh, you need fibre optic to stream decent quality, amaze me people stream crap quality content and then buy 4K TVs to stream it on lol
@Bryan Kelly: well said
@Philip Mckenna: Get onto your TD about that high speed they promised the whole country and have now pushed back a couple decades.
No problem up here.
4K TV? Oooh look at me the millionaire!
@Philip Mckenna: ive a bog standard 100 mb connection and stream in 1080p perfectly so not sure what you mean
@Rochelle: Steam right? You’ve got EA releasing games where you don’t even get the full game and have to pay extra for it as DLC. Or remember that whole No Man’s Sky scam? And they wonder why sales are down…
You wouldn’t steal a car. True, but if I could download one…
@Dave Malone: 3D printing?
@Fake Avast: They’re also replicating guitars (and everything else). Gladly a few people here were caught by sub standard materials and tradesmanship. €2500 guitar for €250 euro delivered. Alarm bells!
It’s a victimless crime, like punching someone in the dark.
@Professor Goodfeels: and a victimless crime is??? Not a crime.
@Tom Phelan: yawn
@Fake Avast: or he’s quoting The Simpsons
Insurance Companies have been streaming the entire population for years…
@Tomas: Thats allowed in ireland
Excellent article Rónàn. I’m still none the wiser if I’m breaking the law, but it appears Ray Foley is talking bollox. Nothing new there.
Can i still be a priest
Beats paying the ridiculous cinema prices
Mad what can be achieved on the line today
So the article says ‘without permission or without paying’ How do I know if I have permission? I once went through a no unauthorised entry sign…got stopped and told the security guard that I got authorised by my mother (sitting in the seat beside me). So who do I get authorised by and how do I know they are actually the person to grant authority? As regards paying….so my payment to help run a website I download a movie from….that is payment, right?
Anyone else think this article could have been shortened? A bit repetitive.
As for IPTV (get on it)… Guilty!!!!
Very good article
‘What people mightn’t realise is that by streaming illegal content, a user’s computer is still making a copy of it, even if that copy is temporary in nature and stored on the computer’s cache.’
That’s not always true. And is a misrepresentation of cache.
What if someone was an avid cinema goer and Blu-ray collector that tried out a few downloads that they received to see of they wanted to experience it in the cinema? Does European law not dictate we must receive a service before we pay for it? Or somerhing along those lines!
If the eejits who own the movies started releasing them online themselves for a small fee the peer to peer industry would evaporate over night.
Think Netflix for cinema releases !
All the big major companies were caught of guard with the net, it came on so quickly and it 2 late now lol, I see there clamping down on YouTube n a big way ,that’s a great example of how they were caught unawares,stuff u could watch for free on YouTube until while back was brilliant
We are forced by law to pay for a TV license. That fee goes to pay for movies and shows on telly from America. We can record them and watch them whenever we want. Why should we not be able to download or stream those same shows as having a copy to watch at home which we already pay for and is legal and basically is the same thing.
have your say