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FROM TIME TO time, a quite innocent question asked in TheJournal.ie HQ can turn into a heated debate.
First, we had “can couples go out on dates?”
Now, as Christmas approached, a question of “are you going to be watching Die Hard this year” started a furious flurry of claim and counter-claim in the office on whether or not this masterpiece starring Bruce Willis is in fact a Christmas film.
Such were the passionate feelings on the matter, we got two of the team – Seán Murray and Garreth MacNamee – to give their take from both sides of the debate.
“Of course it’s a Christmas movie” – Seán Murray
Okay, what exactly makes a Christmas movie? Is it something you watch at Christmas time or is it a film that takes place during Christmas? I would argue both, and Die Hard is certainly one of them.
Right, first and foremost, it takes place over the course of one night.
What night is that? Christmas Eve.
Mr MacNamee will say that lots of films take place over Christmas time but that doesn’t automatically make it a Christmas film. But as well as having a Christmas theme it’s also a film that many of us feel is synonymous with Christmas.
Cinemas put it on their Christmas schedules and TV stations show it around this time.
John McClane is going to visit his estranged wife because it’s Christmas. He wants to see her. He wants to see his children. Heartwarming stuff.
Where’s he going to see her? At her Christmas party. Let’s not question how strange it is for a work Christmas party to be on Christmas Eve for a moment.
Already, we have a familiar, heart-warming, Christmassy premise. Person going to be reunited with family for Christmas. So far, I’m surprised Driving Home for Christmas isn’t the first thing that comes to our minds.
But then, things don’t go to plan. Terrorists, led by a wonderful Alan Rickman, take over Nakatomi Plaza and start running amok.
Grizzled cop McClane avoids capture, and sets about making sure the terrorists don’t have it all their own way.
He even takes one of them down in Christmas-themed fashion, as the below clip demonstrates.
There’s loads of references to the fact that it’s Christmas too.
When the safe cracker is having trouble breaking into the vault, Rickman’s villainous Hans Gruber tells him: “It’s Christmas, Theo. It’s the time of miracles. So be of good cheer… and call me when you hit the last lock.”
When the vault finally opens, Gruber wishes his comrades a “Merry Christmas”. At the beginning when McClane is in the limo, he asks the driver to put on some Christmas music.
Yeah there’s quite a bit of violence and people die in it, but people die in It’s A Wonderful Life too.
My esteemed, and very wrong, colleague will argue it’s a film you can watch all year-round.
He’s right about that but it’s still a Christmas movie. It takes place at Christmas, is a staple of Christmas TV schedules and for many it’s a tradition every Christmas to sit down and watch a bit of Die Hard.
It’s as quotable as Elf, as charming as Home Alone and the film finishes with the song Let it Snow! as Bruce Willis and Bonnie Bedelia embrace for feck sake.
It’s a Christmas film, end of.
Over to you, MacNamee.
“You can watch it all year round, what are you on about?” – Garreth MacNamee
I have nothing but the utmost respect for my learned colleague. But in this instance, he’s talking nonsense. Utter nonsense.
Die Hard is set at Christmas – there are Santa hats, references to Christmas music. Yes, I can admit that. But there are loads of films which are set at this joyous time. That doesn’t make them Christmas movies.
Lethal Weapon, Rocky IV, In Bruges and LA Confidential were all set at Christmas. Would you consider them festive films? I think not.
Mr Murray makes the point that “for many it’s a tradition every Christmas to sit down and watch a bit of Die Hard”. I know families who eat duck at Christmas – that’s their tradition. But you wouldn’t call it a bona fide Christmas tradition like turkey and ham, would you? Just because it’s a tradition in one person’s house doesn’t mean it’s traditional in someone else’s.
Now, let’s move onto one of the most glaringly obvious aspects of this so-called discussion. Die Hard was released in cinemas in the US in July 1988. JULY. That’s that then, surely.
If we need to dig deeper into this movie, we have to look at the thematic discrepancies between a warm, lovely Christmas feeling and what Die Hard is about.
Hans Gruber is a psychopathic and murderous thief. Die Hard is about taking what is not yours and shooting innocent people in the face. Not very Christmassy.
The fact that John McClane utters a couple of Christmas-based lines is irrelevant. Had it been set at Paddy’s Day – he’d have said Yippee-Ki-Yay Motherfecker and worn a leprechaun hat.
Oh, yeah. And another thing. Messing with dead lads’ bodies also features. Just because he’s wearing a feckin’ Santa hat doesn’t mean it’s alright.
Christmas movies are about getting the family down, opening the big box of Roses and putting on something like Back to the Future (the quintessential festive flick WHICH IS NOT SET AT CHRISTMAS).
So to sum up, Sean is wrong. I am right. I am on the right side of history.
Yippee-Kay-ay Motherfunkers.
So, what do you think?
After hearing the passionate arguments on both sides, we want to know: Do you think Die Hard is a Christmas film?
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He looks like Rolf Harris
Ha ha, never eating KFC again,
And one more thing, IMO why they don’t sell curry sauce is beyond me, that gravy is a poor substitute for curry with ur chicken
Paul, You beautiful man, you’re completely correct.
Their food is nasty anyway like, but the lack of curry sauce is unforgivable.
Their gravy was often the only reason for going there. I recall many the time going to KFC and coming out with fingers burned like they were in a hot bath full of chicken, half cooked fries and MSG…. mmm…
I only tell you one time. Don’t fcuk me Eric……. don’t you ever try to fcuk me!
Buzz off bozo the kfc gravy is nice !
Denis o brien wins again, and gets a gagging order against any reporting of his corruption……….discusss
No. But do you like kfc?
DojiFone Denis has more spicy state secrets up his sleeves than Colonel Rolf has had chicken dinners!!
Looks a bit like Rolf Harris
Id consider going to KFC again if they place was clean & the chicken was hot!
Or if they started having nice food
A fella was telling me that his son had his head wrecked to take him to McDonalds so he told him “if you can spell McDonalds ill take ye” so the young fella said ” ah fu.k it we’ll go to KFC
Hillbillys in Cork after a feed of pints.Nothing KFC has to offer even comes close.
I’ve been to the Hillbillys in Fairview a few times. Decent stuff.
And they have curry sauce.
If I want to wrap my mouth around breasts, legs & thighs, I’ll have a night in. Cheers Colonel.
So how you getting on since ya moved back in with your ma?
Good now. Your sis feels right at home too.
I dont have any sisters… but I have a fat brother, could be him?
Eat it in bray a few years ago and never again it was awful
Have to agree…absolutely revolting it was.However,you should try the one in blanch,it’s a bit better.
I hate parking in the retail carpark beside kfc. The smell is nice for about 2 seconds and then fell sick from the smell.
Hope you didn’t hit your head when you fell .
Anytime I go to McDonald’s its packed dont see it slowing down
Its nigella they need not a Rolf Harris lookalike.
The food gives you ebola side effects
No taco fries, no business.
I genuinely read that headline as “KFC is bringing back chicken” haha then I thought, that will never happen
That’s definitely Ronan Collins…….
Tiny little chickens killed, plucked, covered in spicy batter and crumbs and deliciously gobbled up.
Or chickens with no eyes or feathers being genetically processed in a lab, there’s a few documentaries about it. Horrid stuff
Is it really wise to use someone who looks like a white plantation owner from over a century ago to promote chicken in a basket (or is modern alternative)?
All that’s missing is the salty melon balls!
Best of them, all unhealthy but KFC is the best tasting, some of their outlets need a good cleaning, the operators need to be better supervised by KVC, I walked out of Bundoron last year because it was not near clean, I have always found Athlone great
The one in Carrick-on-Shannon is the best I’ve seen. Spotless, and the girl there remembered my order as I passed though (for work) every few days.
They kept him alive with 11 secret herbs and spices
Everythg in bray Is shttttt mc Donald’s Eddie spocrketts it’s un believable shtt
Go to Dundrum taste like the ritz
He’s looking alright for a man that was on ice for 20 years
They can resurrect the messiah for all I care. I still will never eat in that kip
Hillbillys pisses all over KFC… All der missing from der menu is the hot wings an unlike KFC they’re nearly too generous with the chips.. New one on Walkinstown roundabout is tops
He won’t be around long with a cough like that
HACCP comes to mind then, extra flavouring?
That’s one of the worst ads I’ve ever seen, worse than McD’s new Hamburglar. That eejit playing the Colonel gave me the creeps.
Looks like a creepy Rolf Harris
Eric fail KFC
Wasn’t he an awful racist?
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