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Some of Dublin's 'dog friendly' pubs are reviewing their policy

Doggiegate rumbles on.

There's a voice that keeps on calling me... Down the road... at MVP Sad news folks, our friends with paws are deemed no longer allowed by the hse. We're trying to find out more & will try to fight the good fight. Updates to follow... #doggiegate #mvpdublin bodytonicmusic bodytonicmusic

LAST WEEK MVP pub on Clanbrassil St said that it had been told it could no longer welcome dogs onto its premises.

A recent visit from the HSE meant that the informal ‘pet friendly’ policy in place in the pub would have to stop.

We asked a number of other ‘dog friendly’ bars ( as listed anecdotally by the websites like Lovin Dublin and Publin.ie) if their attitudes had changed following the MVP controversy…

The Leeson Lounge 

Such a good match in such an amazing place ! #irelandaustralia #pub #dublin #erasmus qtn.vgd qtn.vgd

The Leeson Lounge has been known to have a dog friendly policy in the past. The manager there said that the pub doesn’t serve food so they felt it had “never really been an issue”.

The pub has an outdoor smoking area and there is certainly no problem with dogs sitting outside. However he said this latest controversy means the pub will have the “check out” what the story is in terms of allowing dogs inside.

The Hut, Phibsboro

The Hut told us that while they had “no official policy” in the past regarding dogs on the premises, they had previously allowed regulars inside with their dogs, once the pups weren’t interfering with other customers.

In light of the HSE clamping down on MVP this week, however, they told us that they would “have to review the situation” and potentially look at enforcing a blanket ban on dogs (with the exception of guide dogs, of course).

The Gravediggers

When we spoke to The Gravediggers, they informed us that they don’t mind a dog during the day once it’s kept on its lead and it’s not busy inside, but noted that dogs were not allowed anywhere where food was being served.

They said they were not aware of the MVP controversy.

The Cobblestone

The Smithfield favourite told us that it does not allow dogs on the premises except for guide dogs, despite being listed as ‘dog friendly’ in the past.

Smyths of Haddington Road

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Although listed as dog friendly, Smyths of Haddington Road have clarified that they only ever let dogs sit in their outside area. Never inside.

MVP

Bodytonic spokesperson Trev O’Shea told DailyEdge.ie last week that after a considerable amount of support the pub was going to “try to fight” the HSE’s banning of dogs from the bar.

MVP co-owner Phoebe Fairbairn told The Anton Savage Show on Today FM that allowing dogs into the pub had become a “unique selling point for the business”.

I see no reason why the HSE can’t work with me to put some kind of regularion in place where it’s at my discretion.

Beerhouse 

Beerhouse on Capel Street told DailyEdge.ie that it has no policy per se on allowing dogs but that they take pets on a case by case basis.

The manager expressed understandable reluctance to explicitly say that dogs are welcome, given MVP’s recent issues, but said that as long as dogs are quiet and clean and not running around they don’t have any particular issue with it. He also said that the bar would only be asked to admit dogs maybe once or twice a week, and that it wasn’t a very regular occurrence.

Pantibar

Capel’s Street’s Pantibar is owned by Rory O’Neill who commented on DailyEdge.ie MVP story last week, saying:

Unfortunately every bar, regardless of whether they serve food or not, is considered a “food premises” under the legislation. I own a bar in Dublin city centre, the only food we serve is packets of peanuts, and we are dog friendly.
We’ve had two visits from the health officer about it who told me I couldn’t have my own small dog in the bar. The officer implied they’d had a complaint from a member of the public but I don’t really believe that – she also said she’d been passing the closed bar and saw the dog through the window.
I was very firm about my position: the dog stays, and if they wanted to drag me in front of a judge and waste everyone’s time, they could go ahead. (the dog is hardly going to open bottles of beer and pee in them, and as far as I’m concerned a dog is no more a health issue than customers wearing their street shoes in). I haven’t heard from them again and that was about two years ago.

- additional reporting by Amy O’Connor

Previously: Dublin pub MVP has been forced to stop letting dogs in

 

 

Written by Emer McLysaght and posted on DailyEdge.ie

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    Apr 1st 2022, 1:12 PM

    What a tool. Sentence should be increased for the audacity to appeal avd wasting the courts time.

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    Apr 1st 2022, 1:27 PM

    @Laura Maguire: Absolutely agree, except tool isn’t a strong enough term for him. But yes I understand TheJournal won’t allow stronger terms be used.

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    Apr 1st 2022, 2:05 PM

    @FiannaFáilness FineGaelness: and you will be blocked. Next the journal is going to say that he is a good father and son and a law abiding citizen with 300 convections.

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    Mute Mick Murphy
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    Apr 1st 2022, 1:14 PM

    Has a cheek even appealing the “severity” of the sentence. Could have been double that and still not excessive imo

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    Apr 1st 2022, 1:31 PM

    Should have been given 3 life sentences. For murder

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    Apr 1st 2022, 1:52 PM

    So who advised him that he had a chance on appeal here?

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    Mute David F. Dwyer
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    Apr 1st 2022, 8:06 PM

    @john smith iv: A lawyer who saw a nice fat brief for something that was doomed anyway.

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    Mute Richard Ahern
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    Apr 1st 2022, 1:36 PM

    That’s our “justice” system for you!; costly, inefficient, out of touch with reality, mystifying, encouraging thugs/thieves to continue with their life of crime until they hit crime number 140 or 180. Ineffective & pointless in the extreme.

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    Apr 1st 2022, 3:30 PM

    @Richard Ahern: It is impossible to have a fully efficient justice system in any jurisdiction due to the nature of the human animal. Punitive action by the state against criminals doesn’t ‘reform’ criminals. It makes them hate the state and society more. It’s always been that way and likely always will. It is impossible to have a crime free society. Always was and always will be. The justice system can only punish transgressors. It is not capable of bringing about the personal change necessary to reform these transgressors. I would say that in the majority of cases, such reform isn’t possible and will not occur. I think a lot of law pays too much attention to the rights of defendants and too scant attention to the rights of victims and an more equitable balance needs to be struck thereabout. Criminality is an integral part of any and all societies that pivot around the acquisition of wealth and are primed by the unequal distribution of wealth. There will never be any country with a perfect justice system, as there will never be a crime-free society in any country of the world. A lot of crime is committed by corporations and businesses, so crime is interwoven into the fabric of our societies. If we wish to reduce crimes, we need to legislate for all of them. For example, why are cars made that can travel in excess of 150 kph? How is that safe, or necessary, on public roads?

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    Mute Richard Ahern
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    Apr 1st 2022, 5:02 PM

    @Antaine O’Labhradha: Antaine, thanks for your detailed, well thought-out, comments. However, as you mentioned, the thugs have far too much lenience & money thrown at them and the damaged victim is entitled to f. all. As I said earlier, the system is inefficient, useless, expensive and to hell with the victims.

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    Mute sean o'dhubhghaill
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    Apr 1st 2022, 5:21 PM

    @Richard Ahern: If it is as you say surely his appeal would have been granted?

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    Mute Jason Walsh
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    Apr 1st 2022, 7:04 PM

    @Antaine O’Labhradha: high enough consequences will deter most folk, if consequences are low as it is now it’s deterring no one

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    Apr 1st 2022, 1:39 PM

    The level of trust we put in others when we get into a car and drive on the roads is massive. The Rules of the road is what this trust is based on. When someone completely ignores them and drives at totally ridiculous speeds in a reckless manner whilst recording them (to show how “mad” he is in his super cool car to his friends) then disaster can and did happen. Three people are dead because of his attempt to show off. A lifetime ban from driving and a minimum sentence of 20yrs should have been his punishment. The idi0t got off lightly and he still isn’t happy with that….

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    Apr 1st 2022, 2:46 PM

    I think anyone who kills someone while driving while doing something they shouldn’t be [drinking, being over the limit, being on drugs, no insurance or no licence or tax, excessive speed, texting or using a mobile phone, whatever it is] should automatically get 25 years minimum, no remission or parole. The relatives of the deceased get a life sentence. So should the person[s] who caused the death of an innocent road user/pedestrian. Driving under the influence or in an illegal or dangerous manner should be regarded as intent, since ALL drivers know the rules of the road, whether they keep to them or not.

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    Apr 1st 2022, 3:06 PM

    @Antaine O’Labhradha: 25 years minimum for No Tax ? Do you work for Revenue.? or the Green Party? Or are you just a keen cyclist ?

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    Apr 1st 2022, 3:09 PM

    @Shane Terry: I admire the absolute olympic-standard leap that you’re making to shoehorn a negative comment about cyclists into a story about a car driver that killed three people.

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    Apr 1st 2022, 4:01 PM

    @OnlyHereForTheComments:
    25 years for o taxand you have the gall to criticise someoneelsefortheirreply

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    Apr 1st 2022, 5:24 PM

    @Tom Halpin: It actually says “25 years if you kill somebody while driving with no tax”, not 25 years for not having tax.

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    Apr 1st 2022, 1:58 PM

    He has some neck on him if he thinks the sentence is too harsh, the accident must have given his brain a severe rattling.

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    Apr 1st 2022, 4:20 PM

    The audacity of him to ask for a reduced sentence. The sentence wasn’t long enough.

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    Apr 1st 2022, 5:33 PM

    Tell me the 20 years driving ban starts when he comes out? Please tell me.

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    Apr 1st 2022, 3:32 PM

    What an absolute C yoU Next Thursday.

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    Apr 1st 2022, 5:40 PM

    Neck on him like a jockeys bollix and a huge show of disrespect to the families of the victims.

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    Apr 1st 2022, 6:15 PM

    Why wouldn’t he appeal?! There needs to be a punishment for a BS appeal. Everyone will appeal because they know that the sentence won’t be increased, which it should if your appeal fails.

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    Apr 1st 2022, 9:07 PM

    9 years, a joke. Insult to the families.

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    Apr 1st 2022, 7:02 PM

    Will this chap have a life time driving ban when he eventually gets out. He shouldn’t touch the steering wheel of a car again even if he claims it’ll impact him working. He should be struggling to make ends meet everyday after his release, living on the breadline might teach him so humility he’s clearly lacking.

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