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DUBLIN AIRPORT ANNOUNCED today that it is progressing with the building of a new runway, with a view to having it completed by 2020.
The airport will be investing €320 million into the new build – which will begin proper 2017 after enabling works are carried out later this year.
The airport initially received planning permission to build the runway from Fingal County Council almost 10 years ago in August 2007, but the plans were put on hold due to the fall in passenger numbers brought about by the economic downturn.
Officials from the airport said now that a rise in passenger numbers and increased revenue meant that a new runway was needed to ensure the continuation of growth by having sufficient capacity to accommodate future demand.
The 3,110 metre runway will be built 1.6km north of the current one.
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Dublin Airport chief executive Kevin Toland said that the runway would “significantly improve Ireland’s connectivity”.
“We are progressing our plans to deliver the new runway in accordance with the development and pathway for growth outlined in the Government’s National Aviation Policy (NAP),” he said.
Dublin Airport’s North Runway will significantly improve Ireland’s connectivity supporting trade, foreign direct investment and tourism.
Toland also said that the airport was “very conscious” of the need to balance the national interest with the interests of the local communities.
“We will continue to work closely with our neighbours in relation to this project,” he said.
The build will support around 1,200 jobs during the development and had the potential to open up connectivity to a range of long-haul destinations, the airport said.
Tourism and Transport Minister Paschal Donohoe said that the runway was “of major strategic importance to Ireland” and had the potential to create thousands of new jobs in the coming years.
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Yet there are no funds to link Cork and Limerick by motorway!? This would be nearly half the cost of that project!
The country rapidly needs a counterweight to Dublin, it is turning into London or Paris where the cost of living is multiples and the rest of the country lags behind.
I’m from Dublin but I don’t want this country turning into a centralised city-state, linking Galway – Limerick – Cork would provide a viable region with over 600,000 people within a 1.8 hour drive… that should be our focus right now because it will help solve all other issues such as overcrowding, housing, homelessness etc Give people a viable alternative and they will move.
Trying to cram ever more people into a smaller space is bad planning.
Hi Wayne, yeah I know it is, and you are correct! It is private but it really should be a national asset.
I do want the government to build a motorway though! Is it 100% private or is the dept of transport chipping in? Does the government have any stake left?
Michael, the DAA is state owned and only pays dividends to one entity, the state. This development is being funded by loans and cash reserves held by the DAA. So it is an asset owned by the state, much like the ESB, but operates efficiently enough that it can raise capital and investment and repay it independently of the government
Perfect so, they should raise capital for the motorway and the DAA can finance it if it all comes from the state coffers anyway… Peter and Paul and all that.
I thought you were going to say it is a private company in which case there’d be no hope
Or perhaps the people of cork could use the money allocated,to redevelop a GAA stadium from central government for this motorway, and not a vanity white elephant. Sure cork never gets anything.
Not really Michael, you raised the non point of public funding, for a cork/Limerick project, as this project is non government funded it’s not a valid comparison. A better comparison would be the redevelopment of Pairc Ui Chaoimh which is in receipt of public funding and was seen as cork CC as a funding priority
Chris, depends on how many people are travelling direct to the city centre and plan to use public transport. Coach tours, connections to other city’s by coach, private transfers, hire cars and many variables dissipate passengers from the airport
Michael, there are numerous bus services running from thw airport, through the tunnel and up the quays then on to various regional towns, run by both Bus Eireann and privafe operators.
From a cork perspective this is incredible. Since getting independence from Dublin Shannon has surged ahead of cork. Second city airports across Europe are very popular destinations. Usually the costs are lower and you have access to a decent more accessible and cheaper hinterland. Cork airport is woefully underused and the price of flights due to the levies charged by the DAA are choking the life out of it. The new terminal is large fresh and new and you have a second terminal lying idle! You couldn’t make it up. Cork has pretty much everything Dublin has but it also has an amazing coastline on its door step, a recent capital of culture, a world renowned university and its just being criminally neglected. But it’s suiting the DAA for everything to be centralised in Dublin
Well said Michael,at present Dublin contributes something like 45% of GDP when a lot of other capitals in Europe are around 10%.A serious imbalance which is very bad for a country overall.
I can’t understand why the Luas could/was not linked up to Dublin airport. When they set up a Luas in Edinburgh a few ago they had the brains to link it to the Edinburgh airport, I have use it a number of times great job.
Edinburgh tram ONLY goes to the airport. The people of Edinburgh weren’t happy with it being built as they saw it as a waste of money when there was a good bus service to the city centre already. It is more expensive than the bus and takes about the same time.
I wouldn’t go using the Edinburgh trams as an example we should aspire to. It cost close to £1bn and isn’t half as useful as they have planned it to be. It also takes longer to get to the CC from the airport than the bus and is more expensive!
That is one of the reasons for building second runway. The current runways are not long enough to allow a fully fuelled long haul aircraft fly direct to Certain parts of Asia/ South America and further afield. The new runway would open up the markets that we currently cannot fly direct or non stop to!
Pairc Ui Chaoimh is not a necessary infrastructural development.
If you are saying that simply because both will be publicly funded that they can be compared it’s ridiculous, you may as well say just take the money from schools / hospitals. Separate gov depts.
Also County Councils don’t decide on motorways so it’s irrelevant that Cork City / County Council prioritised Pairc Ui Chaoimh as they don’t have a mandate to fund motorways in the first place.
But if Cork CC hadn’t messed around with the route for 20 years they would have got funding long ago. They were effectively leapfrogged by the M18 because they couldn’t sort it out
Pairc Ui Choimh isn’t a vital infrastructure project really! I for one am shocked! The point you are missing is Cork cc put a lot of effort and energy, into getting the funding for it and the development. Maybe that effort and funding, could have been better directed. You wrongly pointed out that Dublin was being prioritised over Cork, it is not it is a private project.
A new airport for Dublin which will inevitably greatly expand economic development and further concentrate it in an area that already cannot house, school or provide adequate health and other services for its inhabitants. And in a country where economic development is already far more biased and isolated in its Capitol city than any other comparable developed country.
Yes, that would be exactly as carefully thought out as usually the case for Irish public policy… (that was sarcasm Larry)
And then, there’s the question of how wise such air travel expansion is in the face of Climate Change already showing signs of being worse and more quickly than previous IPCC assesments? Eg coastal cities inundated and uninhabitable with 1 metre of sea level rise this century now a serious possibility.
But, hey, there’s profit to be made by our elites…
Ireland has no shortage of climate changers eager to lecture to the rest of us about dangers of fossil fuels so how come no protest outside Dublin airport?
The news today is equivalent to opening up new fossil fuel power station.
Could it be that they need to use airplanes to lecture to others
Great news! I’ve done a lot of traveling for work in the last few years and Dublin Airport is one of the best airports I go through. This will only make it better.
I think that’s a fair comment, as airports go I find Dublin very stress free. A light rail system to the airport would be fantastic but once you arrive at the airport I have no issues with any of it.
Dublin is a terribly designed and not fit for purpose. I’ve been using it once a week now for over two years.
The model of airport on the continent are one centralised building where all flights depart from and one arrivals / departures area. We now have two terminals (the second one is mostly empty) that once you go through security are linked anyway (yet they insist on people using one or the other), people walking around in pink with no people skills or foreign language skills. When you arrive into terminal 1 in particular, there isn’t one sign that says “Welcome to Ireland”. Not one Irish flag, no one photo. Nothing. The only thing there is the the little Irish flag on the back of a City Jet plane in an ad! You could be absolutely anywhere in the world, it is that indistinguishable, the tourism and airport chiefs should be ashamed, 70% arrive through this airport and we don’t even have a sign to welcome them?!
Buses / taxis / car hire all has to be doubled up for each terminal even though they are meters apart. The arrivals in T1 is from the 70s. No train link. Parking from the stone age. No proper collections area, you have to play chicken with the Airport police at departures.
To sum up it is pretty bad, but it is of course good news :)
I am no fan of Dublin airport but plenty of Failte signs and Irish cultural displays in both terminals, including a walkway of GAA shirts and photos. Perhaps you need to look around more when you travel
Dublin is fine. It (T1) wasn’t designed as an airport for passengers to transfer – simply a destination.
T2 is bright, spacious – a few simple adjustment would greatly help the increasing numbers of passengers who use it as a hub to fly to North America (signposts for one ). In general, the staff are friendly, helpful, and it’s easy to get around.
Sorry Wayne, I thought it was obvious I was referring to inside the building. In that case they also have one outside on the roundabout!
Every other airport I go to mostly Helsinki, Stockholm, Amsterdam you are instantly let know where you are and welcomed.
From exiting a plane at the Ryanair pier D the whole way through to arrivals, there is nothing except some photos on the back of the baggage claim wall.
Plenty of Budget terminals in Europe have space decorating until you get closer to the main hub. Plenty of pictures historic and otherwise between pier D and arrivals.
Michael….You say terminal 2 is “mostly empty”. You probably think that because there is so much space to move and the fact that you feel that space in terminal 2 is a tribute to the airport terminal design.
You would do well to look at the terminal 2 facts :
Terminal 2 capacity is 15 million passengers annually .
Current usage 11 million annually .
Hardly “mostly empty” Michael.
Come on Phil, I’m just making a point… There’s no need to take it to an absolute extreme to try and make it look stupid… It doesn’t offer anything.
@Wayne “Plenty of pictures historic and otherwise”? Fair enough, I guess having been through there 50 times last year I’ll need to do another fifty this year to find them because they must be hidden somewhere… I’ll take a few photos and put them up in a shared folder on Monday ;)
Just compare it to arriving in JFK: flags, crests, pictures of the president, welcome signs, welcome announcements…
One centralised terminal on the continent?which continent. Heathrow -five terminals , CDG 3 terminals, Frankfurt 3 terminals . If your talking about Schiphol fine but it’s only one airport.
T2 is Dublin was packed this morning and airport has hit record numbers this year. Yes it badly needs a rail connection but otherwise a pleasure to go though
Great news, often when on final approach to Dublin you can tell the aircraft is put on a holding pattern, in fairness another thing put on hold due to the downturn, the downturn was the time to build these things, loads of building contractors with little work on it could have been built cheaper, same with roads and housing estates, and these things would be ready for the so called recovery,
And the downturn was associated with a drop in passenger numbers….
But you’re right, a downturn is the right time for the government to spend – evening out economic cycles. The counterpoint to this is that governments should save during the good times – not the giveaway policies of pretty much every party in the Dáil.
Problem with current runway is width, and the space for wingspan of the A380. Also, taxi ways and apron space, would require bigger parking bays at terminal and reduce capacity for number of parking spots for aircraft
It can already accommodate the Dreamliner.. Thompson will be using the Dreamliner from Dublin to Mexico and Jamaica this summer.. The Thompson Dreamliner was in Dublin last summer to promote the route
Compared to the average Turbofan-powered Wide-body Commercial Passenger Plane, which can take off with 9,020 ft of runway and land with 5,900 ft, the Airbus A380-800:
Can take off with a typical amount of runway
Needs 900 ft less (a 15% margin)
Compared to the average takeoff and landing field lengths for allCommercial aircraft, which are 6,500 ft and 4,309 ft respectively, the Airbus A380-800:
Needs 2,520 ft more (a 39% margin)
Needs 691 ft more (a 16% margin)
The Turbofan-powered Wide-body Commercial Passenger Planes with the Shortest Takeoff Length
Boeing 767- 200ER – 5600 ft
Airbus A330- 200 – 7283 ft
Ilyushin Il-96-300 – 7677 ft
Boeing 767- 300ER – 7900 ft
Boeing 777- 200ER – 7998 ft
Airbus A350- 800 – 8000 ft
Airbus A350- 900 – 8000 ft
Airbus A350- 1000 – 8000 ft
Airbus A330- 300 – 8202 ft
Ilyushin Il- 86 – 8858 ft
Ethiopian airlines have a dreamliner in Dublin a few times a week. The 787 isn’t actually that big, around the same size as a 767, but much more efficient.
Most casual flier are mad keen to be able to fly on an A380.But after about 2 dozen flights onboard, travelling on an A380 is a poor choice…
The airlines have too few of them, if one has a technical problem it usually goes out of service as no replacement aircraft big enough are available and then they have to re-book/find hotels for over 500 passengers.
If two planes are flying the route the A380 service is always the most popular, meaning the plane will be fuller… but also it fills faster from the front back. First and business seats are priced the same on both services, so more passengers choose the A380. Economy is always cheaper on the non-A380 service, it fills from the back forward. Which mean upgrades/empty middle seats are much more likely to occur.
There are just too many people on board, business class is 8 seats in a row on some A380s.It feels like a dorm, there are bathroom queues, twice as likely to be within a seat or two of noisy children, it takes much longer to get meal service, meaning less chance to sleep. It’s a far nicer flight on the upper deck of 747 or an A340/777 with 4 seats across.
Travelling on it really is the fools choice, especially if it’s the more expensive option.
the Airlines have decided – their decision is to use smaller planes, flying directly between cities, rather than flying via large hubs. The A380 is for airports like Frankfurt, Paris, London, Dubai – 50 million passengers per year – not a small airport like Dublin. Most people would prefer to fly directly to their destination – not make a stop in Heathrow etc.
Emirates operate two flights a day with a Boeing 777-300, thats over 700 seats a day. Their a380′s have a capacity of around 545 seats, so the demand is there.
Ground works are already well underway to make changes to taxi ways because one of the middle eastern carriers wish to fly the A380 in and out of Dublin.
I’ve flown the BA A380 a few times and I haven’t found any of the issues that you talk about Drew, though it sounds like you’ve flown it a few more times than I have. There are more bathrooms and more stewards/stewardesses to accommodate the large numbers. I didn’t experience a diminished service compared to a BA 747 flight for example. Quite the opposite actually. The better noise reduction, cabin lighting and cabin pressure systems reduced a lot of the travel related tiredness. I had a similar experience with the Dreamliner. The more modern cabins are a more pleasant experience. My only gripe about the BA Dreamliner that there was one seat too many in economy with 9 across (3-3-3). It was a little tight. 8 across would be nice for the passengers (2-4-2), but as we all know, it’s about bums on seats for the airlines….
David saying that the A380 is somewhat of a lame-duck isn’t really true. Certain airlines are taking the large aircraft and hub approach whereas others are adopting the point-to-point with smaller aircraft approach. Both are valid, and the mix allows a lot more options for the consumer.
747 can land at Dublin no problem and you see them every so often, though mostly cargo (Singapore & Air France Cargo I have seen there the odd time in the past few years)… Sure Aer Lingus were one of the original operators of the 747…
Oh yeah I forgot about that, really wish we had the capabilities of handling an A380 at the gates though, Dublin-Singapore direct would be great, especially for people traveling onward to Australia
Good news for Dublin Airport but when are the DAA going to leave go of the stranglehold they have on Cork Airport and allow them to compete with the other two airports on an even basis.
Derek….Dublin Airport passenger figures …25 million in 2015.
Cork Airport passenger figures ……2.4 million in 2015.
Do you really want Cork to compete on its own …??
You’re missing the point Michael, Cork Airport believe they are being hamstrung by DAA and if cut loose can grow numbers just as Shannon did after been released.
Cian..I understand the point.
However, Shannon, after 17% increase has passenger figures of 1.7 million for 2015.
Cork had growth of less than 3% in 2015, yet it has Passenger figures of 2.4 million for 2015.
There’s a lot of rte driven propaganda about Shannon.
Cork has stronger passenger figures than Shannon.
Norwegian want to fly Cork to Boston and New York.Tge DAA are the ones who pushed this
Yes when tourists start flying to Cork in large numbers. Dublin in itself is a destination. Why fly to Cork if you are coming to see Dublin. Do you fly to Nice when visiting Paris ?
Dónal you mean like the 15 million spent on runways in Cleggan and Inisboffin that have never been used, and are now overgrown, like it or not nearly half the country’s population lives within an hour of county Dublin and City
There’s no investment by the government or anyone else. The airport are paying for this themselves through a loan funded by landing charges and rent from the shops inside the airport.
“I am simply pointing out that Dublin soaks up a disproportionately high amount of our countries resources”
That’s because over a million people live there. The reality is that, per capita, Dubliners subsidise the rest of the country, not the other way around. Building infrastructure to connect the sparsely populated countryside is far less cost effective than building infrastructure in Dublin. And Dubliners have to pay a lot more to live nearby this infrastructure. Some people living in the country seem to want their big, cheap houses but all the benefits of a city too.
And I don’t buy the de-centralisation argument or the suggestion that companies choose Dublin because of the higher levels of infrastructure. It plays a role but urbanisation is a pattern seen all over the globe and the more we move to service industries the more this will continue.
And anyway, you linked to the GDP of the Dublin area, not how much “resources is soaks up”
My point is that continued investment in *one* city alone is not sustainable for an entire country. What do you suggest, the entire populace commute to Dublin?
“Dubliners subsidise the rest of the country”.. how? is there a special Dubliner tax?
“sparsely populated countryside”
Cork City: 119,000 People
Limerick City: 95000 People
Galway City: 75000 People.
Sorry, I forgot, the country ends at the M50.
Donal Limerick to Cork M20 projected cost 800 million. Now look at you population figures you posted again and justify that spend as value for money.
Country does not end at the M50 but the requirement for large infrastructure projects for less densely populated areas is limited. The attitude of Dublin has so we should have is silly. Better to focus on actual needs than keeping up with the joneses
The point i am trying to make (maybe I am not being clear) is that the entire country needs to be looked at in combination. A Dublin-centric model is a one way road to people commuting two to three hours a day.
Wayne, M20 is a terrible example of something “not value for money”.
You might have an argument elsewhere, but the M20 is probably THE single most important piece of infrastructure not being built in this country. It would enable the Southwest and West regions to compete with the East. It would alleviate the very congested East. It would stop you from thinking “Dublin is subsidising the whole rest of the country” (it isn’t, though it does contribute far more than its fair share).
The whole country needs an economic counterweight to Dublin. Dublin needs that too. The M20 would be the single piece of infrastructure needed to enable that. It’d be cheap at 800million, if anything. And it wouldn’t be a one-off 800million spend, it’d be an 800million spend over 30 years.
If the DAA needs or wants to spend their own money upgrading their airport that handles 25 million passengers versus the country’s second busiest which handles 2 million, I have no issue with that.
Yesterday’s Jam, the cost of upgrading an existing rail link between cork and Limerick and ancillary public transport would be half of the cost of the M20 and provide similar benefits! But sure we want a motorway because the big smoke has one
Wayne, the combined population of Limerick and Cork counties is 700,000. You realize it will be passing right through the middle of both. Throw in the populations of Clare, Galway, and Tipperary who will also get use out of it, and you’ve got a population of 1.2 million.
Thanks James. Added to that that freight movements rarely happen by rail nowadays: the motorway is needed to transport goods to/between the various companies and the ports/airports.
Wayne, this isn’t a personal attack at all, you’ve just chosen a poor example to make your point on this one. It’s not a case of “because Dublin has…”: M20 as a project stands up to scrutiny in terms of being a value-for-money project. If you really don’t agree with this, I strongly urge you to check out the GDP/GDP Per Capita/Population numbers for the Cork/Limerick region. It’s the only rational economic counterweight we have to the Dublin region. The M20 is the missing piece in the jigsaw that allows this to happen.
As an extra bit of background info, I don’t use this route now, but have worked in large companies in Dublin, Cork and Limerick and travelled the N20 a lot in the past. It’s one piece of infrastructure that is screaming out to be done. I’m shocked that anybody would be against it.
Anyway back to the Dublin Airport second runway: hope there’s no delays in delivering this on time.
No argument with the DAA’s money Carl, but workers living in Dublin don’t fund the rest of the country.
They, along with workers in the other urban areas do. Cork, Limerick and Galway are not money-sinks and contribute more than their fair share. Cork/Limerick GDP per capita isn’t as high as Dublin’s (and may never be) but they contribute to “the rest of the country” in the same way Dublin does. “Rural” does not include Cork and Limerick metro areas.
Whoever told you there are 269,000 people in Cork Limerick and Galway spun you a yarn, also, there are more than that in the Cork metropolitan area alone.
Donal, reality is Dublin is a tiny city in the world and Europe. A city needs to have critical mass and Dublin is really too small. And yes Dubliners do subsidise the rest of the country just like other large cities do
Serious construction, required to meet standards, than their is the requirement for added maintenance equipment, and runway vehicles, also added extra infrastructure, signage, lighting communications equipment.
Think how wide a runway needs to be. It also needs to be incredibly strong. It’s not like it’s just two inches of tarmac on top of the earth. There’s a serious amount of engineering to it. Also, compare this cost to the figures in the UK for a new Heathrow runway.
Proper order. Britain’s Heathrow kerfuffle is our gain. If the Brits leave Europe, then we stand ready to take their EU business. If not, then the busiest air rouet in Europe is getting an upgrade.
It’s a scandalous waste of money. They would be far better utilising the infrastructure that they have in an efficient manner than spending all this money. All they have to do is look at Gatwick….the busiest single runway airport in the world. They handled 733 aircraft movements per day in 2015 compared to Dublin’s 524 per day. Gatwick get 30 take offs or landings per hour compared to Dublin’s 21….and the primary reason for Dublin’s low figure is ancient work practices! A new runway at Dublin is most certainly not needed at this time.
No I don’t mean Stansted. You are correct though, Gatwick does have parallel runways but due to the distance between them only one can be used at a time…the northern parallel runway is only ever allowed to be used when there is work being carried out on 08R/26L.
Jim…
1…The main East/West runway is “at capacity during peak times” according to the DAA.. Therefore it is impossible for the airport to accomodate new flights during those hours without a new runway .
2..The main reason a new runway is required is to accomodate A380 take offs which the existing east/west runway at 2900 cannot do.
Yes it is needed.
‘According to the DAA’….says it all really. Gatwick is also at capacity at peak times but they have a greater utilisation of the runway. (In other words they get 9 more movements per hour than Dublin does….nobody actually stops to ask the question why this is?) You go on to say it’s to accommodate the A380. First of all how many A380′s do you think Dublin is realistically going to handle on any given day? Manchester with a population of 2.55 million people currently handles two…and the order book isn’t exactly full. Airbus have had a grand total of two A380′s ordered for the whole of 2015! A simple 300 metre extension would solve that problem…that’s what Birmingham airport has recently done. I have no issue with a new runway….but like everything at Dublin Airport it’s not being thought out properly ( bit like T2 built in the wrong place which creates massive bottlenecks every day…departing aircraft cant get from the gate and arriving aircraft cant get in). By all means build the runway….but at least use the one you already have in a more efficient manner….it’s a bit like Irish Rail, instead of running a ten minute dart on the line that they already have, deciding to build a whole new line!
Jim, have a look at flight radar 24 and see the holding patterns being flown over gatwick at peak times. They’re a regular occurrence. Gatwick regularly operates overcapacity. It’s a disaster waiting to happen. And at least there, if anything goes wrong, there are a heap of alternative runways within 100 miles. Here, there just aren’t. Also, Manchester isn’t a perfect comparison. It is two hours by rail from London and half an hour flying. There are plenty of connecting passengers from there who go to London to fly long haul. Dublin is perfectly positioned to operate a long haul trans Atlantic hub with additional capacity but a new runway is needed for that.
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Jim..i don’t know the population of Manchester, however I take your word on that. Greater Dublin has a population of 1.8 million. But it’s not just about the local population. Dublin is the fifth largest transatlantic hub airport in Europe. It had a passenger figure last year of 25 million. That’s bigger than Manchester airport. If Dublin is to continue growing as a hub airport it needs to invest in facilities. Otherwise it will just stand still.
Michael, my point is either being missed or overlooked here. I am not anti runway…far from it. My issue is with the fact that the current infrastructure is not being utilised to it’s full potential. Everybody is saying this is a great thing for Dublin…and I have no doubt that in the long term it is a viable proposal. However, if people took the time to look at the planning permission that has been granted they would see that one of the conditions in the planning approval places severe constraints on the use of the runway between 2300 and 0700 (to appease the local residents). As a result there will be severe curtailment on the use of the runway at the time the DAA says it is most needed…they classify the peak time as 0600 to 0730. So they are effectively proposing to build a runway to alleviate capacity issues at their own stated peak times whilst the planning permission won’t allow them to use it!
Is there a compensation fund for people whose lives will suffer untold disruption as a result of the increased air traffic from the new runway?
I certainly hope so.
I lived directly under the 16/34 flightpath for years and never suffered “untold disruption”. Granted it’s not used as much as 10/28 but maybe it’s untold because it doesn’t exist?
Yes, we should have mandatory airport quotas. 1 in 3 passengers have to trek out to Shannon and Cork just for a sense of “fairness”. People vote with their feet.
As a regular user of Cork airport for work, all I’d like to see is an early morning flight to Dublin, and a late flight home.
I currently have connectivity through London, Amsterdam and to a lesser extent Charles de Gaulles. However, the connections are often pants:
- To connect through London can mean a full day out or a midnight or later arrival in a european airport
- To connect through AMS with KLM is usually sold with a 40 minute layover involving a sprint to passport control and a sprint for the plane
There are a wealth of morning flights from Dublin I could use via a 6am flight out and a 10pm flight home.
I have no major issue with Dublin being developed as the hub, just give me a connecting flight
M20 needs to be built to connect Cork with Limerick/Galway and further north.Equally badly needed is the A5 through the north to Donegal/Derry -it’s a dangerous disgrace. We need to counterweight the crazy congestion that Dublin is suffering.
The media completely endorse this new project to increase fossil fuels emissions which will bring 7000 jobs but then lecture to us everyday about need to cut down on emissions.
And the rights of the people living in the area will be ignored and stamped upon as this project goes ahead. I for one will be opposing the development. The runway is not needed. We have enough jets shedding their gases and fumes on us as they take off.
I live in the area. I’ll be almost underneath the approach path barely 1K from the airport. And I’m all for it!
Fantastic for the local economy and the country as a whole. It will allow Dublin and its base carriers expand and compete as a hub against the other major EUropean hubs!
Given that the land and the space is there, I hope it goes ahead without a hitch. It’s not like they’ll be looking to demolish entire towns to make way for it like Heathrow.
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Store and/or access information on a device 104 partners can use this purpose
Cookies, device or similar online identifiers (e.g. login-based identifiers, randomly assigned identifiers, network based identifiers) together with other information (e.g. browser type and information, language, screen size, supported technologies etc.) can be stored or read on your device to recognise it each time it connects to an app or to a website, for one or several of the purposes presented here.
Personalised advertising and content, advertising and content measurement, audience research and services development 136 partners can use this purpose
Use limited data to select advertising 106 partners can use this purpose
Advertising presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times an ad is presented to you).
Create profiles for personalised advertising 78 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service (such as forms you submit, content you look at) can be stored and combined with other information about you (for example, information from your previous activity on this service and other websites or apps) or similar users. This is then used to build or improve a profile about you (that might include possible interests and personal aspects). Your profile can be used (also later) to present advertising that appears more relevant based on your possible interests by this and other entities.
Use profiles to select personalised advertising 77 partners can use this purpose
Advertising presented to you on this service can be based on your advertising profiles, which can reflect your activity on this service or other websites or apps (like the forms you submit, content you look at), possible interests and personal aspects.
Create profiles to personalise content 37 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service (for instance, forms you submit, non-advertising content you look at) can be stored and combined with other information about you (such as your previous activity on this service or other websites or apps) or similar users. This is then used to build or improve a profile about you (which might for example include possible interests and personal aspects). Your profile can be used (also later) to present content that appears more relevant based on your possible interests, such as by adapting the order in which content is shown to you, so that it is even easier for you to find content that matches your interests.
Use profiles to select personalised content 33 partners can use this purpose
Content presented to you on this service can be based on your content personalisation profiles, which can reflect your activity on this or other services (for instance, the forms you submit, content you look at), possible interests and personal aspects. This can for example be used to adapt the order in which content is shown to you, so that it is even easier for you to find (non-advertising) content that matches your interests.
Measure advertising performance 127 partners can use this purpose
Information regarding which advertising is presented to you and how you interact with it can be used to determine how well an advert has worked for you or other users and whether the goals of the advertising were reached. For instance, whether you saw an ad, whether you clicked on it, whether it led you to buy a product or visit a website, etc. This is very helpful to understand the relevance of advertising campaigns.
Measure content performance 60 partners can use this purpose
Information regarding which content is presented to you and how you interact with it can be used to determine whether the (non-advertising) content e.g. reached its intended audience and matched your interests. For instance, whether you read an article, watch a video, listen to a podcast or look at a product description, how long you spent on this service and the web pages you visit etc. This is very helpful to understand the relevance of (non-advertising) content that is shown to you.
Understand audiences through statistics or combinations of data from different sources 75 partners can use this purpose
Reports can be generated based on the combination of data sets (like user profiles, statistics, market research, analytics data) regarding your interactions and those of other users with advertising or (non-advertising) content to identify common characteristics (for instance, to determine which target audiences are more receptive to an ad campaign or to certain contents).
Develop and improve services 82 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service, such as your interaction with ads or content, can be very helpful to improve products and services and to build new products and services based on user interactions, the type of audience, etc. This specific purpose does not include the development or improvement of user profiles and identifiers.
Use limited data to select content 38 partners can use this purpose
Content presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type, or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times a video or an article is presented to you).
Use precise geolocation data 43 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, your precise location (within a radius of less than 500 metres) may be used in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Actively scan device characteristics for identification 25 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, certain characteristics specific to your device might be requested and used to distinguish it from other devices (such as the installed fonts or plugins, the resolution of your screen) in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Ensure security, prevent and detect fraud, and fix errors 86 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Your data can be used to monitor for and prevent unusual and possibly fraudulent activity (for example, regarding advertising, ad clicks by bots), and ensure systems and processes work properly and securely. It can also be used to correct any problems you, the publisher or the advertiser may encounter in the delivery of content and ads and in your interaction with them.
Deliver and present advertising and content 96 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Certain information (like an IP address or device capabilities) is used to ensure the technical compatibility of the content or advertising, and to facilitate the transmission of the content or ad to your device.
Match and combine data from other data sources 68 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Information about your activity on this service may be matched and combined with other information relating to you and originating from various sources (for instance your activity on a separate online service, your use of a loyalty card in-store, or your answers to a survey), in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Link different devices 50 partners can use this feature
Always Active
In support of the purposes explained in this notice, your device might be considered as likely linked to other devices that belong to you or your household (for instance because you are logged in to the same service on both your phone and your computer, or because you may use the same Internet connection on both devices).
Identify devices based on information transmitted automatically 84 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Your device might be distinguished from other devices based on information it automatically sends when accessing the Internet (for instance, the IP address of your Internet connection or the type of browser you are using) in support of the purposes exposed in this notice.
Save and communicate privacy choices 64 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
The choices you make regarding the purposes and entities listed in this notice are saved and made available to those entities in the form of digital signals (such as a string of characters). This is necessary in order to enable both this service and those entities to respect such choices.
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