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Are some Dublin taxi drivers using covert signal of ‘Irishness’?

Have you seen those green lights on the roofs of taxis? TheJournal.ie investigation indicates some are being used to signal to the public – and to other drivers – that the vehicles are being driven by Irish nationals.

A NUMBER OF taxi drivers in Dublin may be using a covert symbol to signal – to each other and to interested punters – that they are Irish.

TheJournal.ie has learned the green lights fitted to the top of some taxi roof lights are intended – in some instances – to let potential customers know that the driver is of Irish origin – and not a non-Irish national.

One customer was told by a driver that it is not something being advertised widely but that drivers are “just telling folk that get into taxis”, if they are interested, that the purpose of the green light is to indicate that the driver is Irish.

Although they won’t be seen on every taxi rank, the green lights are becoming more common on Dublin streets.

When asked about the growing number of lights on taxis, another driver told TheJournal.ie that he didn’t want to get one but may be forced to if “the idea took off”.

On St Patrick’s Day, yet another taximan who had installed a green light on his car told TheJournal.ie that some people feel better knowing their driver is from Dublin. “He’ll know the area, you won’t get ripped off,” he said. “It’s not racist.”

One of the drivers we spoke to, originally from England, told TheJournal.ie that he was aware of the increasing popularity of the lights. He said that he has had some bother from other drivers about his accent and that ranks can get quite competitive. He believes the lights are also a signal to each other that the drivers are full-time and Irish.

When asked by TheJournal.ie about the purpose of the green light, the NPHTA (National Private Hire & Taxi Association) said they are used for an entirely different reason. A spokesperson for the union said they are being sold as a European-friendly sign to indicate to potential punters during the day time that taxis are available for hire as sometimes the illuminated yellow roof signs are “difficult to see” in the daylight. He noted that similar lights are used in Spain to indicate when a taxi is available for hire.

One garage which fits the lights to Dublin cabs told TheJournal.ie that his company sells them to anyone who wants them, regardless of nationality. The owner said that his understanding is that the lights are just a way of showing that a vehicle was available for hire.

However, our investigation and a popular internet forum for taxi drivers seems to tell another version.

On IrishTaxi.org, the use of green lights was discussed as a possible sign to show availability to tourists who might not understand the yellow sign.

While there was some support for using the lights for this reason, other suggested that they were a “covert” signal that the driver is Irish. One commenter noted:

The installer was handing out flyers on the Mines [Rathmines rank] some weeks ago. He claimed that he got the OK from TR [Taxi Regulator]. Part of his sales patter was the Irish angle.

Another simply said:

Green light=Paddy.

On the same thread, a different commenter was adamant he was pitched the idea of a green light to help him indicate he was Irish.

My statement that the Green light is a pseudo Irish driver indicator is based on the FACT that  is how it was pitched to me by one of the people fitting them.

Posing as an interested customer, TheJournal.ie asked about the purpose of the lights on the blog. This was the first response received:

my understanding of the green light is to let customers know that the driver is irish , and the hope is people will come to realise what the significants [sic] of the light is in time

On another thread titled “Are Black drivers taking over the Dublin taxi fleet?”, one contributor claimed that “punters generally don’t travel with Africans outside of the city”, a statement supported by other contributors.

Are the lights legal?

During our initial enquiries, there seemed to be some confusion surrounding the legalities of having a green light. The Gardaí confirmed to TheJournal.ie that rules pertaining to car lamps relate to front and back lights and not anything on top of the car, as long as it is not an attempt to imitate a siren or emergency vehicle of some sort. They will also not affect a taxi’s suitability test.

The lights are imported from the UK and sold at various locations across Dublin, including Rathmines and Walkinstown.

TheJournal.ie tried to put an order for one of the lights from a reputable garage and were not asked about our nationality or reason why we wanted the device. However, on a callback asking for a price and confirmation, the stockists became vague and evasive. This week, staff eventually told TheJournal.ie that they couldn’t confirm a price until we put in the order.

The National Transport Authority, which is now responsible for the regulation of taxi services in Ireland, issued a statement to TheJournal.ie when asked about the alleged existence of green lights to say it ”will not tolerate racism in any form nor from any source, driver or passenger”.

“The Authority takes any incidences of discrimination extremely seriously and refers all such matters to the authorities with the power to investigate such complaints i.e. the Gardaí or Equality Authority,” it continued.

In recognition of the multicultural society we are living in, a module on diversity and equality was included in the small public service vehicle driver skills development programme launched in 2009. All new entrants since May 2009 have had to sit this driver skills programme, which results in a certificate on successful completion of both the industry knowledge and area knowledge modules.

[Update]

The National Transport Authority issued an updated statement this afternoon to say it has not, to date, seen a prevalence of additional green taxi roof sign lights.

However, it can confirm that any such lights, regardless of the reason for their display, are contrary to rules relating to customising taxi roof signs and should therefore be removed.

The following slideshow shows the green light being used in Dublin in the past two months:

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    Mar 12th 2014, 12:14 PM

    The difference between politicians with a cause and politicians without one is shown in this article.

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    Mar 12th 2014, 8:16 PM

    Anyone that votes FF/FG/Labour/SF, should be ashamed of themselves and take credit for their part in the state of this country. Anyone that doesn’t go out and vote, should be ashamed for the same reason!

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    Mar 14th 2014, 12:05 AM

    Pat The Cope Gallagher has been around more years than I can remember.

    What in the name of God are people voting for him for ?

    He’s done absolutely sfa for this country. Will you culchies get rid of him once and for all and inject some badly needed new blood into Irish Politics.

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    Mar 12th 2014, 12:24 PM

    From what I heard the people of Donegal wont vote for him.

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    Mar 12th 2014, 11:05 PM

    If they have sense they won’t he did feck all for us like the rest of them and as for what he done to our fishing quotas..

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    Mar 12th 2014, 1:23 PM

    Another overpaid and underworked prize gobsh1te, lets make these crooks history!

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    Mar 12th 2014, 12:30 PM

    What will be more dangerous Pat for you and Fianna Fail is your support for the Property/Bondholder Tax and for water charges

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    Mar 12th 2014, 12:20 PM

    Can anyone shed light on why he is called “the cope”? Or even what a cope is would be helpful?!

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    Mar 12th 2014, 12:31 PM

    Believe it or not there is a politician called The stroke can’t think of his name of hand.

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    Mute Con Ó Domhnaill
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    Mar 12th 2014, 12:33 PM

    His Grandfather Paddy the Cope founded the first co-operative grocery business in Donegal. Co-op … Cope …

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    Mar 12th 2014, 12:34 PM

    @ Stephen Barry. Just ONE?

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    Mar 12th 2014, 12:36 PM

    Ha brilliant! All a bit gangster though isn’t it? Could extend it further – Enda “The Monk” Kenny, Bertie “The General” Ahern, Joan “The Screech” Burton…
    Thanks for the explanation Con, although you’ve kinda killed my little game before it even got going though! Never even had a chance to decide who would be “The Tosser”!

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    Mar 12th 2014, 12:40 PM

    The Stroke Fahy, from Galway. Jailed for corruption, unsurprisingly enough.

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    Mar 12th 2014, 12:41 PM

    I know they are all strokers, but he wore it like a badge of honour,wish I could remember his name.

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    Mar 12th 2014, 12:56 PM

    Willie Stroker?

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    Mar 12th 2014, 12:56 PM

    Thanks Dermot

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    Mar 12th 2014, 3:59 PM

    A cope is part of a Bishop’s regalia.

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    Mar 12th 2014, 5:49 PM

    There was a Fr Willie Stroker in our parish….had a few bad habits.

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    Mar 12th 2014, 10:45 PM

    Fahy an x Fianna Fáil co. councillor in co Galway who got jail for having a nice fence around his property built by all of us

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    Mar 12th 2014, 2:39 PM

    Rónán Mullen will hardly be elected, will he? Seriously worried.

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    Mar 12th 2014, 4:26 PM

    Opus Dei are everywhere.

    It could happen.

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    Mar 12th 2014, 8:05 PM

    It could happen, but I’d predict Mairead McGuinness (FG), Pat The Cope Gallagher (FF), Matt Carthy (SF) and Marian Harkin (Ind). That would have sitting FG MEP Jim Higgins losing out.

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    Mar 12th 2014, 4:04 PM

    People of Donegal will certainly vote for Pat. He is widely liked and respected. He does a hell of alot of work for his constituents. He is leading the fight for fairer fishing quotas and bigger punishments for foreign vessels who exploit irish waters. Obviously not everyone will agree but i for one will be voting for him. BTW his Grandfather Paddy “the cope” set up numerous textile, fish factories and other enterprises in west Donegal which provided employment for hundreds of families who othetwise would ve had to emmigrate to Scotland. He is remembered almost as a saint in The Rosses area of Donegal.

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    Mar 12th 2014, 10:18 PM

    Pat the Cope supports the Property Tax AND water charges. His grandfather would be disgusted

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    Mar 12th 2014, 11:02 PM

    I met him at Alicante Airport rushing back to the Dail for a vote, told him that they had broke our country,wasting my time. Was in Gortahort at a Colaiste Einde re union and he turned up for mass and then disappeared ,the next morning headlines on Sunday papers was about our old age pensions being reduced and we were the class of 65 year old.

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    Mar 12th 2014, 3:57 PM

    Sod off, Pat “the Cope” Gallagher. How the hell could you take anyone with a name like that seriously, let alone chose them to represent you abroad?

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    Mar 12th 2014, 2:37 PM

    nout time he retired like most of The politicians up here. But with amount of pension s he has hes probably saving us money by running

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    Mar 12th 2014, 1:52 PM

    He makes a reasonable point.

    One should be a sweeper. Pat being allowed run west of the Shannon is a clear indicator that he is the sweeper.

    He doesn’t have the wider profile of young Byrne.

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    Mar 12th 2014, 6:27 PM

    I think he could take a leaf out of Tommy Bolger’s book! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuG2pUR7z7E

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    Mar 12th 2014, 12:20 PM

    That senator Byrne is not from rafters road, drimnagh is he?

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    Mar 12th 2014, 1:47 PM

    Are you thinking of Senator Windows?

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    Mar 12th 2014, 10:53 PM

    Seanie go to bed

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