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DUP MLA Trevor Clarke

DUP politician admits he didn't know heterosexual people could contract HIV

Trevor Clarke made the admission in a Stormont debate calling for a new HIV awareness campaign.

A NORTHERN IRISH politician has admitted that he did not know that heterosexual people could contract HIV, in a Stormont debate calling for a new awareness campaign on the virus.

BBC News reports that DUP’s Trevor Clarke had previously thought that only homosexual people could contract HIV, until a charity explained the facts to him.

“When I came here in 2007,” he said. “I would have dismissed the possibility that I would speak about HIV today, because I was one of those who did not understand the stigma attached to it.”

Clarke, along with two DUP colleagues, proposed yesterday’s debate on a new HIV awareness campaign and increasing support for the work of the charity Positive Life, which helps people living with HIV in Northern Ireland.

He argued against an amendment to the proposal put forward by People Before Profit MLA Eamonn McCann.

McCann had proposed that the campaign stressed the disproportionate impact of HIV on gay and bisexual men.

He said that it was foolish to believe that the stigma associated with HIV arose because heterosexual people with the condition may be thought of as being gay.

McCann also referred to Ian Paisley’s “Save Ulster from Sodomy” campaign, which was launched in 1977 but failed to prevent the decriminalisation of homosexuality in Northern Ireland.

“What’s wrong with sodomy anyway?” he asked.

In arguing against McCann’s amendment, Clarke said:

I am not trying to get a rise out of Mr McCann when I say this, but I feel that his amendment, had he moved it, would have been unhelpful to people who, like me, were ignorant of the fact that this disease can affect heterosexuals.

“I think that we should talk about all who suffer with this condition; not just those who have the highest risk,” he added.

McCann retorted by claiming that Clarke’s reasoning was an “unconsciously homophobic intervention”.

The DUP motion on a new campaign for HIV awareness and prevention was passed in Stormont.

The CEO of HIV charity Positive Life welcomed the steps taken by Trevor Clarke and thanked him for bringing the issue forward.

Read: Anti-viral drugs lower risk of catching HIV for couples having unprotected sex

Read: There has been a sharp rise in the number of HIV and syphilis diagnoses amongst gay men

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    Mute Awkward Seal
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:28 AM

    Instead of criticising him, how about we applaud the fact he made such an embarrassing admission and is taking steps to correct it. There are many bigots who say things like “AIDS is god punishing the gays”. If you’re in that bubble it’s not surprising that you don’t have all the facts. There is nothing wrong with his proposal to raise general awareness instead of just awareness for most vulnerable groups. The campaign could do both.

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    Mute Seamus Mc Nulty
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:58 AM

    Yes, I agree, however he represents those who vote for him?

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    Mute Ace
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    Nov 30th 2016, 7:53 AM

    Does he also know that men cant get pregnant ?

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    Mute Dessie Curley
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    Nov 30th 2016, 11:35 AM

    They can’t? My belly has been slowly getting bigger for years. What the hell could it be?

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    Mute Uncle Monty
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    Nov 30th 2016, 12:51 PM

    @Dessie Curley: Have you seen the film ‘Alien’?

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    Mute Cillian McCormick
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:13 AM

    The DUP ladies and gentlemen.

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    Mute Ciaran Ó Fallúin
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:32 AM

    @Cillian McCormick: If this is indicative of the DUP, we could do with some of that down south!

    When was the last time you saw any politician or political party admit their flaws and humbly acknowledge their mistakes?

    Stubborn ignorance has been a prevailing mentality for far too long and people throwing stones at his former ignorance, well, their glass houses must be pretty drafty at this point.

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    Mute Deborah Behan
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:22 AM

    In this day and age this is quite amazing but fair play. Hopefully it will start a conversation about HIV and sexual persuasions.

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    Mute alphanautica
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:07 AM

    He must be from the Healy Rae school of scientific thought

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    Mute David Murphey
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    Nov 30th 2016, 7:54 AM

    Does he know the Earth isn’t flat?

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    Mute TonyD2469
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    Nov 30th 2016, 7:53 AM

    Wow just wow

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    Mute Matt Donovan
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:15 AM

    Waterford whispers news must be kicking themselves having missed such a gem of a headline. The mind truly boggles.

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    Mute Upowthat Burke
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    Nov 30th 2016, 7:54 AM

    What rock was this guy under the last 20 year…..you can be sure he wasent stuck for company under that rock…….we have the biggest rock in the world looks like in the cabbage patch

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    Mute John Doyle
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    Nov 30th 2016, 7:55 AM

    Wow! More Brains in a Turnip

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    Mute Totalitarian
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:23 AM

    Ignorance personified

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    Mute O-'Seán #IRExit
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:48 AM

    Their party only knows bigotry. So of course he didn’t, not even news.

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    Mute joe o hare
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:12 AM

    Some truth in that very few heterosexual men will get hiv

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    Mute Maurice Bourke
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:14 AM

    @joe Do you have a link for that claim?

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    Mute Colm O'Connor
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:20 AM

    There’s millions of infected heterosexual men infected in the developing world

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    Mute Keith Mitchell
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:28 AM

    It does effect gays disproportionately

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    Mute Anthony Healy Poroloniczak
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:30 AM

    Your comment makes u as ignorant as him

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    Mute Keith Mitchell
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:44 AM

    From the article above: “He argued against an amendment to the proposal put forward by People Before Profit MLA Eamonn McCann. McCann had proposed that the campaign stressed the disproportionate impact of HIV on gay and bisexual men.”

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    Mute Qwerty
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:10 AM

    *affect

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    Mute joe o hare
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:55 AM

    @Colm O’Connor: maybe colm but they didn’t contract it by having sex with women.

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    Mute joe o hare
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:58 AM

    @Anthony Healy Poroloniczak: ignorance is a lack of knowledge. So I will pass on some knowledge to you. Men very rarely contract HIV by having sex with women, that is a fact. Feel free to show your ignorance by denying this.

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    Mute Maurice Bourke
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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:01 AM

    @joe please show a link to where you got that information.

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    Mute Hugh Mannatee
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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:26 AM
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    Mute Hugh Mannatee
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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:29 AM

    49% of new cases in Ireland are in the MSM group. Gay men should already know this. It’s not gay bashing to say this. If you are gay and don’t believe this then you are in denial.

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    Mute Paschal Nee
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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:35 AM

    @Maurice Bourke:
    There’s lots of studies with but the numbers seem to support the view that there’s less risk for the man in a hetro relationship

    http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv

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    Mute Maurice Bourke
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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:39 AM

    @hugh @joe. I wasn’t going to accuse anyone of gay bashing. I like to ask for links when someone makes a claim that sounds dubious, nothing more.

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    Mute HOTBank
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    Nov 30th 2016, 1:26 PM

    They do Joe. Any kind of abrasion or damage to skin or mucus membranes is an entry point for for the virus and while it’s less likely that a man will be infected by a woman it can and does happen. Mouth ulcers, STIs, BDSM practices are all additional risk factors.

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    Mute HOTBank
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    Nov 30th 2016, 11:59 PM

    No you wouldn’t and no she wouldn’t. Be careful out there.

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    Mute David Quim
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    Nov 30th 2016, 11:32 AM

    BREAKING NEWS: DUP politician admits to being an ignorant thick.

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    Mute Seaghán Corcoran
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:29 AM

    Oh, dear. Deary dear oh dear..

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    Mute Frederick Burden
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:32 AM

    HIV is a disease?
    I thought it was a trucker license.

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    Mute Paul
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    Nov 30th 2016, 1:53 PM

    In the developed world it is predominantly a gay disease. Lets not ignore the statistics and treat the disease like the common cold, it has made a comeback among younger gay men in recent years.

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    Mute Hugh Mannatee
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:26 AM

    Whenever I hear the word sodomy I get this song stuck in my head for days. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulb0pLBgRCw

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    Mute Jumperoo
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    Nov 30th 2016, 8:38 AM

    What the…..?

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    Mute Hugh Mannatee
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:12 AM

    The film is Meet the Feebles. It was directed by none other than Peter Jackson before he hit the big time.

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    Mute Hugh Mannatee
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:40 AM

    https://youtu.be/fH_4Zt6kokk The horrors of war and drug addiction.

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    Mute Hugh Mannatee
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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:30 AM

    @jumperoo: Bet you it’s in your head now.

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    Mute Alois Irlmaier
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    Dec 1st 2016, 4:33 AM

    @Hugh Mannatee: Your doing it wrong if it starts playing music?

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    Mute Michael Collins
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:22 AM

    S#!t kicker

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    Mute Aaron Kavanagh
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    Nov 30th 2016, 7:40 PM

    The importance of sex education

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    Mute Val Martin
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:06 AM

    To me this confirms one of my theories. There is a substantial portion of the Irish Population (and possible other populations) and their politicians who are a thick as planks. (more in keeping with the intelect of a crow than a person). They can get to comprehend comflex matters, but it takes them 30 to 40 times as long as me. If there is a particular emergency pushed on them, they will try to figure it out and this can abridge the time womewhat.

    Their financial management system is “hold on to everything with a death’s grip” and try to persuade their relations to leave them goodies in their wills. This DUP one believes the AIDS virus is sexually sellective. I experience the same effect when I try to tell people wind energy is a scam and does not work at all. Its just an illegal subsidy racket. See valmartinireland you tube and the Irish Energy Blog (where I contribute)

    The same in advising people not to buy newpapers and note to vote in elections. Its a fact of life, better get used to it.

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    Mute Rob Cahill
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:18 AM

    @Val Martin: Yeah Val, I know someone who has the same issue when no one listens to him about Dinosaurs existing along side Humans.. It must be frustrating.

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    Mute Dave O Keeffe
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    Nov 30th 2016, 9:49 AM

    Shhh leave him alone and he’ll go back to telling NASA how stupid they are

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    Mute Nollaig Elliot
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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:49 AM

    I heard crows were quite smart Val.

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    Mute HOTBank
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    Nov 30th 2016, 1:28 PM

    Interesting off topic contribution there Val. But as you have raised it Denmark fares pretty well with wind energy.

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    Mute Kevin Slater
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    Nov 30th 2016, 1:10 PM

    Proposing an awareness campaign now he knows straight people can get it too. Ok for the gays to get sick though coz God hates fags.

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    Mute Patrick Gough
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    Nov 30th 2016, 10:52 AM

    It is almost impossible for a man to contract hiv from a woman since there is no transfer of fluid from woman to man. magic Johnson became hiv positive in 1991. since he said he was having sex with different women 3 or 4 times a day he said he got hiv from a women. cut to an expert. “impossible” the expert says. “statistically you’d have to have sex with over a million women to contract hiv” then magic Johnson admitted he had sex with men.

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    Mute Donal Martin
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    Nov 30th 2016, 11:22 AM

    @Patrick Gough: No transfer of fluid from woman to man? What dried up women are you having sex with???

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    Nov 30th 2016, 11:35 AM

    @Donal Martin: I’d say one of the highlights of Patrick’s sex life was when he go an inflatable sex doll for his birthday and immediately fell in love with it.

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    Mute Hugh Mannatee
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    Nov 30th 2016, 12:42 PM

    Don’t you put it in the belly button?

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    Mute HOTBank
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    Nov 30th 2016, 1:29 PM

    Not almost impossible Patrick. Just more difficult. See my comment in response to Joe O Hair

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    Mute James Joseph Superior Power
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    Nov 30th 2016, 3:37 PM

    @ Patrick. I would say something but the stupidity of that comment speaks for itself.

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    Mute Alois Irlmaier
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    Dec 1st 2016, 4:36 AM

    @Patrick Gough: Patrick that is a dangerous thing to believe…

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    Mute Alois Irlmaier
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    Dec 1st 2016, 4:31 AM

    The birds and the bees Bible lesson???

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