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NON-EU CITIZENS last year had more than twice the unemployment level across the EU’s 28 member states than citizens of that state, according to the latest Eurostat figures.
EU citizens aged 20 to 64 years registered a 10% unemployment rate in their home country, while 21.3% of the same age group of non-citizens were unemployed.
The proportion of people out of work for 12 months or over was similar between the groups though, at 48.6% for unemployed EU citizens and 46.1% for non-citizens.
Some 65.8% of Irish citizens were employed here last year, compared with 54.4 of non-EU citizens in Ireland and 68.6% of nationals from other EU states.
Overall, 56.1% of non-EU nationals aged 20-64 were employed; 68.9% EU nationals were working in their state. The rate of employment among EU citizens living in another EU country was even higher, at 70.9%.
Non-EU citizens had almost twice the proportion of employees on temporary contracts than EU citizens, at 20.2% and 12.4% respectively, while the proportion of part-time employment was also higher for non-EU workers (at 27.5%, compared to 18.4% for EU nationals).
EU citizens working in other EU countries registered a higher proportion of temporary work contracts (16.4%) than those from that country (12.4%).
Four EU states showed a higher rate of employment for non-citizens than for citizens from that state: Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Lithuania and Italy. The largest difference between the two groups was found in Sweden, where 81.3% of its citizens are employed compared to 50.2% of non-EU citizens there.
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According to the cso, foreign nationals in Ireland make up 17% of the live register despite making up 12% of the population.
Hundreds of milliins could be saved if we restricted their dole to the first 3 months unemployment.
The UK are planning to do this and to hell with this nonsense.
Im not even mentioning the 28% on the social housing waiting lists who are foreign nats and the potential for savings there also.
If we restrict their free money, many will inevitably turn to crime which would only make things worse for the rest of us. We should be fixing the root cause and implement immigration standards and limits. There is nothing wrong with immigration, in fact it is great, but open borders is a very bad policy.
Shhhh Plantation, the bleeding hearts are listening….these wasters must be supported at all costs, it encourages multiculturalism.
Cool. Lets go back to dancing at the cross roads as well. Ireland for the (dancing) Irish!
Many will inevitably turn to crime??? Yeah criminals the lot of them….. cop on.
How many Islamic women..are claiming social welfare because they can’t mix with men in the work place. I know those Egyptian sisters in the news six months ago were on the dole….
How many Muslims women’s are working in every single hospital in the Ireland?
Good point punjabi678….we are exporting irish nurses and employing foreign ones….crazy….but still….how many Islamic women are collecting social welfare rather that take a job where they would mix with men. I believe the Halapanava sisters were on the dole here when they went on holidays to Egypt to demonstrate for the mysoginistic terrorist organisation..the Islamic brotherhood.
Would not being able to gain employment due to not being able to speak the language, be a factor?
I recently seen, not for the first time an Irish person refused a job because they only spoke English.
Glen
To be seen is obscene and a saw could cut anything but the time you need to learn how to write in English the rite way!
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Right Richard Right
Fair enough Dick
Richard
Eye can sill uderstad wat e was sying .cud u ? Pss ooof ,dck
Truth Patrol
It’s rite as used since the done and seen of the great unwashed have become ceremonial in their usage.
56.6 % of NON EU Nationals living in Ireland are claiming benefits and leeching off the state ,says it all really
What a great contribution they are to this country……………
Que the red thumbs and racist comments but how can you defend that statistic do gooders?
The actual report gives the figure of non EU nationals that are unemployed (claiming benefits) and it is 21% not 56.6%, I assume that some of the balance appears to be made up of those who are in part time employment 27.5% and those who I also assume are spouses/dependents of workers.
At least the DAA profits were up maybe due to increased asylum seekers
Integrate with the country you arrive in. Have a high skill base that your host country needs. Learn the local lingo ! . And don’t draw money out of your host countries systems till you have contributed . Or if you can support your self for at least 2 years with 500k in the bank . This would solve so many issues . Now let’s see the leftie reaction to this !!!
I agree with you, but many of the countries that a lot of non-EU citizens come from aren’t capable of training people in various skills to a standard that would be required here and in other countries. Also, there are people who would have a high standard of skills in their home country, such as doctors and teachers, but they’re of a lower standard in their host country. Much of the time the standards and training aren’t transferable. There is a problem of people coming to the country without the required skills, but it isn’t as clear cut as that.
Two ways this can be spun but all you’ll hear from our Government sponsored agencies is that opportunities aren’t being afforded to Non EU Nationals. The truth is far more complicated I’m sure but we won’t hear any of that.
Let the racism begin…..
It’s not racist to be concerned that an undue cost is being put on the tax payer for enonomic migrants. If we implemented the Dublin convention we wouldn’t have a problem
The Dublin Convention only applies to refugees (who are legally not allowed to work.) How are you arguing there’s a link between the two, exactly?
Certain Non EU nats also have a mindset whereby they simply do not wish to work. Thats why they cherry-pick a gombeen country like Ireland where the SW freebies are so freely handed to them.
Once they get their feet under the table here, their every need is pandered to, free gratis, and Ireland has created a new lame dog underclass, of non-contributing,welfare dependency.
and plenty of political parties to pander to the new welfare class.
Let us not forget that a Non-EU person can also be an American or Canadian. However, no one should be able to collect aid until residency has been established and the individual has paid into the system.
Thats true Marlon, but I’ve yet to meet an American or Canadian on the dole…
@Ron, I thought I would point this fact out before people on this site start bashing foriegners who are Non – EU nationals.
Nigerians, innit?
39% of Nigerians are unemployed in Ireland.
http://www.cso.ie/en/newsandevents/pressreleases/2012pressreleases/pressreleasecensus2011profile3-atwork/
And manage to send to Nigeria from Ireland a half a billion euros every year ,A miracle must of happened .
Ireland is truly an open border welfare state.
Where is the Immigrant’s council?Surely this is another indication of the insiduous racism,affecting non EU citizens in this nation and across wider Europe.
I recon it’s a world wide problem which comes down to parenting. You teach kids not to be racist they will not be racist.
I think this article is bunk. In the first place a non A EU national cannot get into this country without a job…..refugees are another matter. Whilst here on a work permit they have no recourse to benefits of say kind. Only after five years working and getting what is called an EU residency card can they move about freely and have a right to remain. Getting an EU residency card is very difficult as you have to show you can support yourself ( at the time of application). These statistics in the article say nothing about real conditions. A lot of non EU nationals working here are doing jobs we failed to want to do in the past. They are low paid and without proper contract private service sector jobs. Whining about them leeching the system is wrong. They are not. Better to look to the pyjama brigade for that.
We can’t afford non nationals to be on the dole. We can’t afford anyone to be on the dole who never made a contribution to our TAX system.
Just got my naturalisation after 6 years living here. I have Fetac level 5, 6 and 8, speak 3 languages. They say I am overqualified but some predujice is always hidden behind this excuse.
How did you get naturalisated if you are on the dole and not working? FETAC courses are useless. How did you get into the country without a specialised skill set?
Prejudiced? Tell me what other country in the European Union would allow a non European union citizenin without skills, let them go on the dole and give them citizenship?
a few ways they’re doing it, getting pregnant so they child can remain but then of course the parent must stay even though they’re not immediately entitled (yea that really solved it), get involved in a civil partnership with an irish person or anyone from the EU will do, and of course marriage. first entry point is private english school lessons for a few months or a year then work on trying to stay using those options and probably others. its all very popular.
btw theres no such thing as Fetac Level 8. The specialised skillsets to gain entry in the first place are absolutely not been adhered to…
oh yes they are working it, time to change a few more loopholes.
Maybe it’s me, but I didn’t see anything on the text saying that the non-EU citizens who are unemployed are actually claiming benefits.
My guess is that non-EU students and other non-EU citizens with limiting visas are being counted towards this unemployment figured.
I’m non-EU and I’ve got a job, although it took me almost six months to get one but I have plenty of Non-EU friends who are unemployed and not claiming benefits.
AFAIK, the only immigrants that can actually claim benefits are EU family members and asylum seekers, but I’m not sure about that.
It is not surprising at all, though, that the unemployment amongst immigrants is higher than amongst EU citizens. If it’s hard enough for someone who was born in the country to find a job, imagine for someone with poor language skills, no contacts, no local training and qualifications.
It is to be expected.
If an non eu citizen is not working, engaged in one of the many, many dodgy ‘English language schools’ or involved in a sham marriage then they should be immediately repatriated. The eu is not a soup a soup kitchen for the waif and strays of the world.
Time to put our own people first and clamp down on those taking advantage of our extremely lax immigration laws.
‘Maybe it’s me, but I didn’t see anything on the text saying that the non-EU citizens who are unemployed are actually claiming benefits.’
Did you even bother to read the poxy thing?
‘My guess’
Indeed. Your guess. The figures in the article are spot on. Here is the original report in full(its a pdf) – http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_STAT-14-119_en.htm?locale=en
‘I’m non-EU and I’ve got a job, although it took me almost six months to get one but I have plenty of Non-EU friends who are unemployed and not claiming benefits.’
No work visa allows you enter the state without having a work contract that meets certain requirements. Except one. A student visa. You wouldn’t be here to ‘study English’ would you?
Not all English schools are dodgy as you say. I came here to learn English and I did learn it. If you have a problem with the ways things run here in Ireland maybe take it up with INIS because everything that I and loads of people are doing (studying and working) is perfectly legal.
I don’t understand the prejudice against people on student visas. We inject billions into your economy that are never recovered since a huge percentage of students can’t get a job. Nobody wants to employ students.
I don’t think immigrants should be allowed benefits just like citizens from a country or at least not for some time. Why should they get something they haven’t contributed for?
Not all English schools are dodgy as you say. I came here to learn English and I did learn it. If you have a problem with the ways things run here in Ireland maybe take it up with INIS because everything that I and loads of people are doing (studying and working) is perfectly legal.
I don’t understand the prejudice against people on student visas. We inject billions into your economy that are never recovered since a huge percentage of students can’t get a job. Nobody wants to employ students.
I don’t think immigrants should be allowed benefits just like citizens from a country or at least not for some time. Why should they get something they haven’t contributed for?
i don’t understand the prejudice non-eu countries have towards eu students who are not allowed to work AT ALL while studying in their countries, not even the 20 hours we give them here (and a lot of that is exploited, give an inch and all the rest is the thanks we get :/) but have to fully support themselves.
bizarre really.
‘If you have a problem with the ways things run here in Ireland maybe take it up with INIS because everything that I and loads of people are doing (studying and working) is perfectly legal.’
All perfectly legal, yeah?
UP to 10,000 foreign nationals are working here illegally after entering the country on bogus student visas, the Irish Independent has learned. They represent almost one in three of the students who come here from outside the EU.
‘I don’t understand the prejudice against people on student visas. We inject billions into your economy that are never recovered since a huge percentage of students can’t get a job. Nobody wants to employ students.’
Citation needed for the billions injected remark. Fact js, you and your fellow ‘language students’ come here because we allow language students to the work. No other country in the EU does the same. Even your own country, Brazil, allows foreign students the right to work. So why should we allow allow non EU ‘language students’ work. You are taking menial jobs from unemployed Irish and EU citizens resident here.
If you are non EU and skilled, get a work permit and welcome to Ireland. Dont take advantage of our hospitality by enrolling in a dodgy language school just so you can work in the EU. It’s a joke and no wonder the natives are rightfully angry.
May I suggest an Australian type border control, in our airports, for “visiting” , Non-eu nationals.
Journal
Your sub headline uses the word “employement” instead of unemployment.
And they are using it in the correct way:
“Eurostat figures also show that EU citizens living in other EU states had a higher employment level last year than people from that state.”
On reading the article, you will see that both the headline and the sub-headline are correct.
*employment
another one of these shit stirring articles, its a big planet get used to it.
Do they not have information on the kind of work they carry out? If non-EU citizens were carrying out more short-term/contract work while EU citizens were carrying out more long-term work, would that not contribute to the figures?
They have a bit more information, but actually details would be useful for creating a full clear picture
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